Jesus teachings in Bible say basically the same, " Love God above all and thy neighbor as thyself", therefore we can see that the only requirement for the Ascension can be summarized in one word: LOVE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1205857
Yes, that is the heart of the matter but like you said some of use choose
to understand ascension in a little more detail. I have made that choice, as apparently so have you, but I guess you could say I second guess myself about that choice often.
"SG says ascension leads to existence with no planet and no body." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1205857
SG mentions that the 20 million have contract to Ascend to 7th Dimension. This dimension is beyond 5D New Earth. In this 7th Dimension the Divine Spark don´t have a body like in 5th Dimensional New Earth, but creates one intantaneously at will in any desired dimension, from 7th to our present 3D.
I think that he was trying to move the reader´s focus higher. But there will be a stay in 5D Terra for some years, OT mentions Terrans having children and living for more than a century on Terra before moving on to higher dimensions.
"What is ascension?"
A general overview of mankind journey will be useful to put the things in perspective, these informations come from Theosophy and Alice Bailey:
(I'd like to get a copy of this book)
Great stuff, that clears up the seeming differences nicely. I don't get why these messages aren't more clear to start with.
"What is awakening? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1205857
* How does OT/SG/classics definitions of it relate?
What SG refers to as "Awakening", by what I have researched about Advaita Vedanta, is similar to Samadhi in Raja Yoga. The Superconsciousness state that is achieved when the ripples on the mind matter are calmed down through methodic concentration practices thus allowing the Divine Spark to manifest fully through its veichles or bodies (physical, emotional, mental )
(I really liked what you wrote in all of this that followed, but honestly it didn't really clear up awakening for me.
So, with that in mind let's turn to one of GLPs own players on the subjects, Acolyte: Thread: THE 12th ASCENDER OBJECT WILL ENTER FROM THE 25TH OF OCTOBER
See the post made at 10/6/2009 3:02 PM for concise but perhaps not complete definitions. The interesting thing about these definitions is that, in a hopelessly 3D perspective, ascension is defined as "bad" and awakening as "good". Acolyte comes from a path/religion/cult called San Mat if I remember reading correctly. Whatever it is, it apparently provided much detail on all of this (but who knows if it's accurate). Acolyte constantly makes posts here at GLP, generally about troubling world affairs. Acolyte has a definite agenda in all of this, but what it is exactly has never been clear to me other than "get people to awaken rather than ascend". Stuff to munch on for you.
Thanks for the reply.
Personal question for you. Are, or were, you a catholic priest? Being from the country where you are now, and given what has gone on in the catholic church, it wouldn't surprise me.