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What do we learn from ALIEN EXPERIENCES?

 
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I’ve been struggling with the whole ET issue for a while now...and I have recently encountered a few different changes of thought on it.

I don't mean to make fun of ET believers, so that is not my intent in posting this. It’s more or less to find out what others feel regarding experiences in general. I'm not trying to discredit anyone's experience with UFO’s or alien entities...it’s just not something I've experienced...in a real physical proof kind of way OR an intuitive sensory way.

I’d prefer to focus on WHY WE EXPERIENCE THE THINGS WE DO.

Our purpose in life is to LOVE. Pretty simple.

We seek it, we feel good when we share it, it’s been proven that in a state of love, our energy can heal our physical bodies and affect others as well as physical matter.

Often in our search for love we mistakenly skip step one...LOVE YOURSELF. Skipping that step sends people spinning off to find self love in another, whether that is a person, thing, or experience differs for people, but they look to something outside themselves for LOVE when it should be addressed with “self” FIRST.

I think for some people an experience (alien contact or ufo sighting) is such a personal and unique experience manifested ONLY for them to learn from.

Does that make it real to me? No...
Does that make it false to that person who witnessed it? No...

I know it does not make sense that both could be right...but this is my belief in how stuff like that works. I guess it depends on perception. We perceive what we need in order to progress as an independent human entity connected to others through energy. We all have the ability to tap into a group “consciousness/intelligence” but the extent to which we do (either knowingly or unknowingly) depends partly on a couple different things.

I’m not quite familiar with what those things are just yet...though I feel one is our INTENT to learn/experience/grow...and another depends partly on our state of feeling the inflow as well as outflow of LOVE.

I think it's a continual process and I know each person is different...so of course we're all going to have different feelings on what is true. Too often we get caught up in fighting each other about what is true, rather than pursuing our own truth.

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So now my questions...

Is there a REASON we experience things others don't? And what purpose would an alien encounter serve for a person?
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bump to respond to later.

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tough question....some people are in the wrong place, at the wrong time hf
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I’ve been struggling with the whole ET issue for a while now...and I have recently encountered a few different changes of thought on it.

Is there a REASON we experience things others don't? And what purpose would an alien encounter serve for a person?
 Quoting: ArunaLuna



I'm with you on that. In fact, I've often wondered whether it is geared to the individual like you suggest. I've wondered whether these things are all just an energy manifesting in a way that make it easier for the learner to understand?

What I mean is that ETs might be the same energy as ghosts or spirit guides or angels, etc.
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What I mean is that ETs might be the same energy as ghosts or spirit guides or angels, etc.
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That's my feeling on it exactly...the same energy in a different manifested state...only perceptible to those who need the experience of that type of thing.

The whole issue can be circled around to death in my head though...I need more input from others to kind of get what is stuck in my head kicked out...

hf Thanks for your input!
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I’ve been struggling with the whole ET issue for a while now...and I have recently encountered a few different changes of thought on it.

Is there a REASON we experience things others don't? And what purpose would an alien encounter serve for a person?



I'm with you on that. In fact, I've often wondered whether it is geared to the individual like you suggest. I've wondered whether these things are all just an energy manifesting in a way that make it easier for the learner to understand?

What I mean is that ETs might be the same energy as ghosts or spirit guides or angels, etc.
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hi FC !!!!!! hf
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What I mean is that ETs might be the same energy as ghosts or spirit guides or angels, etc.


That's my feeling on it exactly...the same energy in a different manifested state...only perceptible to those who need the experience of that type of thing.

The whole issue can be circled around to death in my head though...I need more input from others to kind of get what is stuck in my head kicked out...

hf Thanks for your input!
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I think the underlying thing about it all is that no matter what way we have experienced it, it all comes down to some sort of awakening that there is so much more than this physical world that we need to be aware of.
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hi FC !!!!!! hf
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For a very brief response, think of the occurrence as a spiritual experience. Its like wondering why certain people have amazing spiritual experiences just out of the blue, and other's might go an entire lifetime without one.

Why is that? I don't know if there is truly a correct answer. Maybe that particular experience is what that particular individual was in need of at that moment. Maybe there was a reason beyond that, that we do not understand until viewed in hindsight. Maybe it is in preparation for some future event...maybe an event that only is pertinant to that individual.

What if it is generational, and that is the reason some people are contacted? Most research tells us that it is indeed generational, and that most contactees have their first encounters at a very young age...4 years old or so.

I'm thinking that there are many, many people out there that have been visited, but have yet to remember any part of the experience. Most contactees begin thinking that something has been occurring in middle age, but prior to that have not a clue that something has taken place.
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hi FC !!!!!! hf


Hi!!!!! hugs
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i missed you! long time no see : (

i hope all is well flowas
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What I mean is that ETs might be the same energy as ghosts or spirit guides or angels, etc.


That's my feeling on it exactly...the same energy in a different manifested state...only perceptible to those who need the experience of that type of thing.

The whole issue can be circled around to death in my head though...I need more input from others to kind of get what is stuck in my head kicked out...

hf Thanks for your input!
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


Me thinks that WE are in the minority. That most life does not exist in the strictly physical like we do. We see it, now, as black and white. You either live in the fully material, or in the fully non-material. I think that that is a rarity, and that most life lives in both.
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Me thinks that WE are in the minority. That most life does not exist in the strictly physical like we do. We see it, now, as black and white. You either live in the fully material, or in the fully non-material. I think that that is a rarity, and that most life lives in both.
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Definitely agree.

Edit: Or at least, the more advanced are not strictly physical...

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Me thinks that WE are in the minority. That most life does not exist in the strictly physical like we do. We see it, now, as black and white. You either live in the fully material, or in the fully non-material. I think that that is a rarity, and that most life lives in both.


Definitely agree.

Edit: Or at least, the more advanced are not strictly physical...
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Yes, good way of putting it. Having experienced 'visitation', I TRULY believe that is the case...it is just extremely difficult for us to understand how that could be because our consciousness lives in the physical, with the exception of altered states or sleep.
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So now my questions...

Is there a REASON we experience things others don't? And what purpose would an alien encounter serve for a person?
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i imagine the answer/experience/feedback you receive is dependent upon on question/awareness/transmission you give,
no matter what the subject

an alien, with the ability to be here must possess the capacity of awareness to know when and how to contact or not but....

....what if close proximity to an alien altered the images within human imagination because of the aliens natural influence upon our electromagnetic fields........

unless human awareness could and did compensate/adjust, contact may be frightening/disorientating with distortion of intent....

...i imagine an imagination roaming freely, driven by increased energy/information of an unknown/unaware reason could produce anything from human history as a reality....

...wow...gives me a head twinge to think about the possibility...
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Me thinks that WE are in the minority. That most life does not exist in the strictly physical like we do. We see it, now, as black and white. You either live in the fully material, or in the fully non-material. I think that that is a rarity, and that most life lives in both.
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This is where you and I differ on our perception. Not a bad thing...just a fact.

I don't believe we exist in one OR the other...we exist in all levels...whether we are aware of all or parts I guess depends on the person. We don't live fully in material or non-material...unless I'm interpreting what you wrote in the wrong way?

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Yes...I totally concur with what most have shared! I think the visitation thing is somewhat misinterpreted by most.

I actually don't like the term alien or ET. To me, we live in a multidimensional world and I am a multidimensional being. There are many forms of consciousness, EnTities, that live in other dimensions. There are parts of me, my multidimensional anatomy, that dwells in those same dimensions.

I think we all are visited -- to some degree and err..and not in a good way. But also in a benevolent and benign way.

We are not alone. In fact, I think its crowded!!

To not have a conscious 'visitation' is most likely part of an agreements made by a higher part of the self and the 'visitor'.

This is my current belief anyway. But alway open to change.

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What I mean is that ETs might be the same energy as ghosts or spirit guides or angels, etc.


That's my feeling on it exactly...the same energy in a different manifested state...only perceptible to those who need the experience of that type of thing.

The whole issue can be circled around to death in my head though...I need more input from others to kind of get what is stuck in my head kicked out...

hf Thanks for your input!
 Quoting: ArunaLuna



hmmmmm, OP (arunaluna) - jmho...seems you're post is addressing two issues...
What is love and Are UFO's real--

Since I dont know what Love really means..I love my mom, I love to make love, I love a cold beer, LOve seinfeld, I feel out of love...

...and since Im pretty much sure UFO are just that UFO's since soooo many people have video of them..
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omg.Is this a chick thread? sheeeesh...
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Me thinks that WE are in the minority. That most life does not exist in the strictly physical like we do. We see it, now, as black and white. You either live in the fully material, or in the fully non-material. I think that that is a rarity, and that most life lives in both.


This is where you and I differ on our perception. Not a bad thing...just a fact.

I don't believe we exist in one OR the other...we exist in all levels...whether we are aware of all or parts I guess depends on the person. We don't live fully in material or non-material...unless I'm interpreting what you wrote in the wrong way?

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Good post. "we exist in all levels", and many would say at all points in time...sounds very plausible to me.
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Me thinks that WE are in the minority. That most life does not exist in the strictly physical like we do. We see it, now, as black and white. You either live in the fully material, or in the fully non-material. I think that that is a rarity, and that most life lives in both.


This is where you and I differ on our perception. Not a bad thing...just a fact.

I don't believe we exist in one OR the other...we exist in all levels...whether we are aware of all or parts I guess depends on the person. We don't live fully in material or non-material...unless I'm interpreting what you wrote in the wrong way?

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 Quoting: ArunaLuna


You got it...you said it better than I did. I once thought of it this way...that our selves, our consciousness, our spirit exists on all levels, but we 'live' (or experience) where our consciousness is most focused.
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Just how powerful the Military are at mind control.
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For the experiencer, it's confirmation that they are not crazy after all.

For the nonexperiencer, it's confirmation that the experiencer is crazy. LOL

Seriously, though, I don't feel a need to tell other of my experiences, unless it's in a serious conversation with someone else who has their own experiences and needs to sort it out. Otherwise, there's really no proof I can offer of what has happened to me. I know it's real, and that's enough for me.
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You got it...you said it better than I did. I once thought of it this way...that our selves, our consciousness, our spirit exists on all levels, but we 'live' (or experience) where our consciousness is most focused.
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I'm just going to throw this out here because I'm not sure what it means to me. And I'm not very good at conveying my thoughts with words.

It makes me think of "scattered" energy. And possibly the goal is to collect our scattered energy into a focused one.

And I think that we have to make our selves whole first.

Does that make any sense to anyone?
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hmmmmm, OP (arunaluna) - jmho...seems you're post is addressing two issues...
What is love and Are UFO's real--
 Quoting: johnnywad


Not exactly...though the love aspect is a foundation to my belief in WHY we seek out other experiences. People in general have holes...that they need filled. And any hole, when you really get down to it, is created due to a lack in love either incoming or from the inability to express it.

There are a billion things people do to fill that hole.

I'm not arguing whether aliens are real or not...but is it possible that manifesting an alien experience within one's own reality just another one of those experiences created to fill a hole?

I'm probably not putting this the way I need to in order to get at what I'm wanting to find out. People are going to get hung up on trying to prove to me that aliens and ufo's are real instead...
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Not exactly...though the love aspect is a foundation to my belief in WHY we seek out other experiences. People in general have holes...that they need filled. And any hole, when you really get down to it, is created due to a lack in love either incoming or from the inability to express it.

There are a billion things people do to fill that hole.

I'm not arguing whether aliens are real or not...but is it possible that manifesting an alien experience within one's own reality just another one of those experiences created to fill a hole?

I'm probably not putting this the way I need to in order to get at what I'm wanting to find out. People are going to get hung up on trying to prove to me that aliens and ufo's are real instead...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


I get what your after now. Yes. It is another experience to fill the hole.

Define hole? All experience is meant to 'fill the hole'. You attract to you what you yourself know you need.

It is my belief that we attract experience we need to embrace disparate parts of our self. So the goal of the experience is to embrace that part and...well, become whole. (or more whole as it is an ongoing process.)

And, ideally, figure out who's sitting in the director's chair!

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Not exactly...though the love aspect is a foundation to my belief in WHY we seek out other experiences. People in general have holes...that they need filled. And any hole, when you really get down to it, is created due to a lack in love either incoming or from the inability to express it.

There are a billion things people do to fill that hole.

I'm not arguing whether aliens are real or not...but is it possible that manifesting an alien experience within one's own reality just another one of those experiences created to fill a hole?

I'm probably not putting this the way I need to in order to get at what I'm wanting to find out. People are going to get hung up on trying to prove to me that aliens and ufo's are real instead...
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look at it another way aruna, about 150 years ago people started getting cleverer for the reasons we have posted.

out 70 years ago they imagined correctly how to travel, in the physical, instant over distance, as in the movie contact , sort of

from then on, with gathering interest we, humankind, become of interest to many others within our infinite universe because we possess the information to arrive anywhere we wish within it , instantly

the information made contact inevitable
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It is my belief that we attract experience we need to embrace disparate parts of our self. So the goal of the experience is to embrace that part and...well, become whole. (or more whole as it is an ongoing process.)

And, ideally, figure out who's sitting in the director's chair!
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That's my thoughts on it too.
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about 70 years ago they imagined correctly how to travel, in the physical, instant over distance, as in the movie contact , sort of

from then on, ...
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"they" as in the human race, imagined how to travel? Are you talking about the concept of physically traveling over distance in an instant or are you saying they achieved this travel?

Have we done either?
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You got it...you said it better than I did. I once thought of it this way...that our selves, our consciousness, our spirit exists on all levels, but we 'live' (or experience) where our consciousness is most focused.


I'm just going to throw this out here because I'm not sure what it means to me. And I'm not very good at conveying my thoughts with words.

It makes me think of "scattered" energy. And possibly the goal is to collect our scattered energy into a focused one.

And I think that we have to make our selves whole first.

Does that make any sense to anyone?
 Quoting: Full Circle


I think I know where you are going with this...

Instead of thinking our selves as 'scattered', think of our selves being branched out...amazingly, incomprehensably branched out. You are branched out everywhere, but your primary energy is focused on one branch. I have OBE's, astral travels, ET experiences, etc, which are other 'branches' but my 'self' is only occassionally focused on those branches. But, As I 'remember' my selves and begin making the connections, the branches begin joining into one 'bigger', 'broader' branch.

Now, think of that occurring infinitely. Both ways...all ways...
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I'm not arguing whether aliens are real or not...but is it possible that manifesting an alien experience within one's own reality just another one of those experiences created to fill a hole?

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i think your saying people project into their lives what they need to expereince in order to validate whatever they believe, and the ufos or expereince is just a reflection of that.

you can have actual expereinces that arnt based on what you need to continue believing whatever you do, the majority of expereinces ive had havnt been to re-affirm any kind of mind set i might have.

most of my expereinces have been through an open mind not really to solidfy anything i believe. if you go around just expereincing the world to convince yourself whatever you think is accurate its a very desulional world, most of your expereinces wether supernatural or not would just support that rather then the actual expereince you wouldnt learn anything, and sometimes the expereince is there just to expereince.
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hmmmmm, OP (arunaluna) - jmho...seems you're post is addressing two issues...
What is love and Are UFO's real--


Not exactly...though the love aspect is a foundation to my belief in WHY we seek out other experiences. People in general have holes...that they need filled. And any hole, when you really get down to it, is created due to a lack in love either incoming or from the inability to express it.

There are a billion things people do to fill that hole
.

I'm not arguing whether aliens are real or not...but is it possible that manifesting an alien experience within one's own reality just another one of those experiences created to fill a hole?

I'm probably not putting this the way I need to in order to get at what I'm wanting to find out. People are going to get hung up on trying to prove to me that aliens and ufo's are real instead...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna



would you think less of me If i think youre adorable?


And I think there is a diff. between, manifesting an "alien experience" and seeing an unidentified flying object and video taping it where others provide a consensus of corroboration that it is a UFO..

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