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The mark of the beast is no mystery. We are told in plain languge in Rev.14:9-12 what it is;



huh ?? isn't very plain to me....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 964953

Sorry stepped away, Let's look at it..

14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


v.9-11 desribe those with the 'mark of the beast' and what happens to them. v.12 describes those without the mark.

This very issue is found throughout the Bible, the law and the prophets, or faith of Jesus.

Deuteronomy 6:2,8 That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you....And you shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.

Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth.

Sodom and Gomorrah was a period of judgment or wrath from God on the wicked. The flood of Noah was a period of judgment of the wicked. The mark of the beast is a period of judgment on those who reject the Protestant Reformer's message (third angle's message, Rv.14:9) after coming out of babylon, the Roman Church.

Then we read in Rv.16 the vials pour on those with the mark..

16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God on the earth.

16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial on the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore on the men which had the mark of the beast, and on them which worshipped his image.
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The mark of the beast is no mystery. We are told in plain languge in Rev.14:9-12 what it is;



huh ?? isn't very plain to me....

Sorry stepped away, Let's look at it..

14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


v.9-11 desribe those with the 'mark of the beast' and what happens to them. v.12 describes those without the mark.

This very issue is found throughout the Bible, the law and the prophets, or faith of Jesus.

Deuteronomy 6:2,8 That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you....And you shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.

Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth.

Sodom and Gomorrah was a period of judgment or wrath from God on the wicked. The flood of Noah was a period of judgment of the wicked. The mark of the beast is a period of judgment on those who reject the Protestant Reformer's message (third angle's message, Rv.14:9) after coming out of babylon, the Roman Church.

Then we read in Rv.16 the vials pour on those with the mark..

16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God on the earth.

16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial on the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore on the men which had the mark of the beast, and on them which worshipped his image.

 Quoting: William 1169706


so the 'mark' is an image ??
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Who is They?

The chip still could be the mark of the beast, but I just think there is no way to choose with a chip. They could put it in vaccines or anything. Maybe it will be a way for control. It clearly says you will have to choose a side on this one, and many who choose not to side with the beast will die. Most people will try to avoid this situation for their families by hiding out. But if people are chipped, there will be nowhere to hide.

Just my crazy thought on it.
 Quoting: BigNutChuck

Thank you for the thoughtful responses OP. Really interesting theory.

Why is this thread not pinned?
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The mark of the beast is no mystery. We are told in plain languge in Rev.14:9-12 what it is;



huh ?? isn't very plain to me....

Sorry stepped away, Let's look at it..

14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


v.9-11 desribe those with the 'mark of the beast' and what happens to them. v.12 describes those without the mark.

This very issue is found throughout the Bible, the law and the prophets, or faith of Jesus.

Deuteronomy 6:2,8 That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you....And you shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.

Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth.

Sodom and Gomorrah was a period of judgment or wrath from God on the wicked. The flood of Noah was a period of judgment of the wicked. The mark of the beast is a period of judgment on those who reject the Protestant Reformer's message (third angle's message, Rv.14:9) after coming out of babylon, the Roman Church.

Then we read in Rv.16 the vials pour on those with the mark..

16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God on the earth.

16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial on the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore on the men which had the mark of the beast, and on them which worshipped his image.

 Quoting: William 1169706




So you think there is not physical mark

The mark of the beast is a period of judgment on those who reject the Protestant Reformer's message (third angle's message, Rv.14:9) after coming out of babylon, the Roman Church.
 Quoting: William 1169706



but it applies to anyone who denies or rejects the message?

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The mark of the beast is no mystery. We are told in plain languge in Rev.14:9-12 what it is;



huh ?? isn't very plain to me....

Sorry stepped away, Let's look at it..

14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


v.9-11 desribe those with the 'mark of the beast' and what happens to them. v.12 describes those without the mark.

This very issue is found throughout the Bible, the law and the prophets, or faith of Jesus.

Deuteronomy 6:2,8 That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you....And you shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.

Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth.

Sodom and Gomorrah was a period of judgment or wrath from God on the wicked. The flood of Noah was a period of judgment of the wicked. The mark of the beast is a period of judgment on those who reject the Protestant Reformer's message (third angle's message, Rv.14:9) after coming out of babylon, the Roman Church.

Then we read in Rv.16 the vials pour on those with the mark..

16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God on the earth.

16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial on the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore on the men which had the mark of the beast, and on them which worshipped his image.



so the 'mark' is an image ??
 Quoting: Sugarelf



No, in the last part talking about anyone that worships the beast's image.
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From the article


"For those who seek the answers, however, the Bible does provide some crucial information related to this mark. First and foremost, according to Scripture, the Mark is essentially used as a means to distinguish the followers of the Beast from the followers of God. By accepting the Mark of the Beast one displays his dedication to the Antichrist, and at the same time, his opposition to the God of the Bible.

The Scriptures also tell us that those who take the Mark will be subject to some unique benefits, as well as some extreme punishments. For instance, the Book of Revelation speaks of a time when the only ones allowed to buy or sell will be those who have taken the Mark of the Beast: “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark…” (Revelation 13:17). Conversely, we learn that these same people will be subject to God’s divine punishment for taking the Mark: “The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God…” (Revelation 14:10).

With the advent of modern technology, some students of
prophecy have assumed that the Mark may somehow be related to a type of invisible bar code system, or perhaps a microchip implant with the number 666 encoded into it. Although, these scenarios do not seem very realistic or practical when one considers the fact that much of the world’s population—in particular many of the remote
areas in the Middle East—have yet to see a credit card, or a bar code scanner for that matter.

Still other problems crop up that seem to render the technology based scenarios implausible. To begin with, there is the obvious difficulty associated with implanting untold numbers of people with a microchip, or marking them with some type of bar code.

Further, if a microchip tracking system became a reality, it is conceivable that one could approach a person who is sleeping—or in an otherwise vulnerable position—and literally force the mark upon them, thus labeling them as a follower of the Beast without the individual ever having a choice in the matter. The Bible makes it clear that those who take the Mark will be cast into Hell. Considering this, it does not stand to reason that God would allow this
fate to befall those who were forced to take the Mark, and therefore robbed of the opportunity to exercise their free will and refuse it."
 Quoting: BigNutChuck


The idea of a Mark, in itself, being so detrimental to one's relationship with God, makes no sense. I agree that the concept of the "Mark" would be one that involves a person's change in beliefs and ideals. After all, a Mark is just a Mark. If the "Mark" is acceptance of Islam, then it becomes far more than just a Mark and is something that one could not really fake.
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There have always been a couple of things about the wording of Revelation 13:17-18 that I found interesting. First, it specifically says to "count" the number of his name. Some translations use the word "calculate" if I'm not mistaken. This to me implies that at least some kind of basic math will be required to arrive at 666. This to me implies that it can't just be a symbol that looks like 666, whether it's in English, Greek, Arabic, or whatever. There will have to be some kind of "counting" involved.

Also, when it says the number is 666, I've always taken that to mean specifically the number six hundred and sixty six. Not just three random sixes pulled from anywhere. For example, the night Obama won the election, people were calling him the antichrist because on that very night, the winning lottery numbers somewhere in the country were 6, 6, and 6. Well, those are just three individual sixes, not six hundred and sixty six. I think the mark would have to be that actual number, based on the wording of the text. Just my interpretation though, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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the *rfid* may never be anything more than it is. the mark of the beast is a spiritual babylonian mark.
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uuuhh,

So the antichrist is going to "force" everyone to get a spiritual mark on their "right hand" or "forhead"?

Im going to get my info from the Bible itself instead of man. And the Bible says the mark will be forced on the right hand of the forehead. If it was a spiritual mark, then it would say something different.



Do not be fooled, read the word to learn the truth.



Also, the argument about it not being practical to give the mark to all people who are in remote places is explainable in that the mark is forced upon people to conduct commerce, if those people in remote places dont contribute to commerce then they would be last on the list, but if everyone who is in the commercial world must take it to buy or sell it wouldnt take long to get them marked. The people in remote areas would be forced to take the mark at the time they need the mark to buy or sell in the world economy. So this wouldn't have to happen immediatly, the plan might be to get it done in X years or the plan may be to just wait until those people need to buy or sell something outside of their immediate village. There are many senarios to force the mark on people, it wouldn't be that difficult to accomplish.
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The mark of the beast is no mystery. We are told in plain languge in Rev.14:9-12 what it is;



huh ?? isn't very plain to me....

Sorry stepped away, Let's look at it..

14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


v.9-11 desribe those with the 'mark of the beast' and what happens to them. v.12 describes those without the mark.

This very issue is found throughout the Bible, the law and the prophets, or faith of Jesus.

Deuteronomy 6:2,8 That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you....And you shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.

Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth.

Sodom and Gomorrah was a period of judgment or wrath from God on the wicked. The flood of Noah was a period of judgment of the wicked. The mark of the beast is a period of judgment on those who reject the Protestant Reformer's message (third angle's message, Rv.14:9) after coming out of babylon, the Roman Church.

Then we read in Rv.16 the vials pour on those with the mark..

16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God on the earth.

16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial on the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore on the men which had the mark of the beast, and on them which worshipped his image.



so the 'mark' is an image ??



No, in the last part talking about anyone that worships the beast's image.
 Quoting: BigNutChuck


ok....

I just don't see exactly what the 'mark' is in the 'plain language' of Revelation 14....
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The mark of the beast is no mystery. We are told in plain languge in Rev.14:9-12 what it is;



huh ?? isn't very plain to me....

Sorry stepped away, Let's look at it..

14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.

14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.


v.9-11 desribe those with the 'mark of the beast' and what happens to them. v.12 describes those without the mark.

This very issue is found throughout the Bible, the law and the prophets, or faith of Jesus.

Deuteronomy 6:2,8 That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you....And you shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.

Exodus 13:9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth.

Sodom and Gomorrah was a period of judgment or wrath from God on the wicked. The flood of Noah was a period of judgment of the wicked. The mark of the beast is a period of judgment on those who reject the Protestant Reformer's message (third angle's message, Rv.14:9) after coming out of babylon, the Roman Church.

Then we read in Rv.16 the vials pour on those with the mark..

16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God on the earth.

16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial on the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore on the men which had the mark of the beast, and on them which worshipped his image.

___

so the 'mark' is an image ??
 Quoting: Sugarelf

Revelation 14:12, tells of those who do not have the mark, because they "keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus". Thus those with the mark follow the beast not Jesus and his commandments. This can be a different Sabbath, or Christmas and Easter. These are babylonian traditions from the babylonian roman beast empire.

"Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth" (Daniel 7:23)

Ro.6:16 Know you not, that to whom you yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants you are to whom you obey; whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?
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"Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth" (Daniel 7:23)


 Quoting: William 1169706


yes....the 'mark' is four....

all fore one:one four all
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There have always been a couple of things about the wording of Revelation 13:17-18 that I found interesting. First, it specifically says to "count" the number of his name. Some translations use the word "calculate" if I'm not mistaken. This to me implies that at least some kind of basic math will be required to arrive at 666. This to me implies that it can't just be a symbol that looks like 666, whether it's in English, Greek, Arabic, or whatever. There will have to be some kind of "counting" involved.

Also, when it says the number is 666, I've always taken that to mean specifically the number six hundred and sixty six. Not just three random sixes pulled from anywhere. For example, the night Obama won the election, people were calling him the antichrist because on that very night, the winning lottery numbers somewhere in the country were 6, 6, and 6. Well, those are just three individual sixes, not six hundred and sixty six. I think the mark would have to be that actual number, based on the wording of the text. Just my interpretation though, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count
the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and
his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
—Revelation 13:18


From the article.


"The first word,
“number,” is translated from the Greek word, arithmos. Arithmos may also be accurately translated as multitude (peoples and nations).

The second word, “count,” which originates from the Greek, psephizo, is also often translated as reckon, or decide.


Obviously, when this verse was originally translated it was
done so with the understanding that the original author, John, had written a number (Chi Xi Stigma) rather than a name (Arabic characters). It would then stand to reason that the translators, when choosing an equivalent for the Greek word, arithmos, would have chosen “number,” in lieu of multitude. From their perspective, the context of the verse would seem to validate this choice.

Likewise, the same reasoning would have been applied when
translating the Greek word, psephizo. The translators would have logically chosen “count,” instead of its alternate translation, decide or reckon, as it would seem to fit more with the reference to a number (Chi Xi Stigma)


In order to illustrate to what extent these translational issues can color the subtleties of a passage, we will insert the alternate translations of the original Greek words, arithmos and psephizo, into Revelation 13:18, and then compare the modified verse to the original. Below, we have two versions of verse 18. The first appears
exactly as it is found in the King James Version of the Bible:

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count
the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and
his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
—Revelation 13:18

Here, in the second version, we have replaced the words in
question with their alternate translations:

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding decide
the multitude of the beast: for it is the multitude of a man; and his multitude is “in the name of Allah.”
—Revelation 13:18 (alternate translation)

By simply replacing the key words with their equally accurate, and perhaps more appropriate, translations, the verse is transformed. The references to “the multitude of the beast.” and “the multitude of a man” clearly refer to the legions of Muslims who worship the “beast” (Islam), as well as the religion that was founded not by God, but by a “man” (Muhammed). The last line of the verse indicates that “his multitude is in the name of Allah,” further
describing the vast numbers of Muslims that worship Allah as
god."


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Very Important!

Discovered by Walid Shoebat

Picking up at the bottom of page 6 of the article.

Full article link below in PDF.







bible1 bible2 bible3


The image on the far left is from the Codex Vaticanus(Greek)Bible, A.D. 350, and illustrates exactly what the characters Chi Xi Stigma, or “666” look like in the original New Testament text. The center image is Arabic and spells out “In the name of Allah,” followed by two crossed swords, which are the universal symbol for Islam (note that Arabic reads from right to left). The image on the far right is, again, taken from the Codex Vaticanus, but with the symbols that resemble “in the name of Allah” flipped, as the Arabic would read. Note the striking similarities between the center and right side images.


bible4

In this image, we have the Greek “Xi” exactly as it appears in the Codex Vaticanus next to a flipped “Allah.”

The similarities between the flipped Codex Vaticanus and the
Arabic symbols are quite simply astonishing…Let us look at some more illustrations.


bible5


Above we have four different variations of the phrase “in the name of Allah, most gracious, most merciful,” as it appears in Arabic. In spite of the diversity in style and character placement, the phrase that Walid found in the Greek text, “In the Name of Allah” (or “Bism Allah,” in Arabic) can be clearly picked out (toward the right side) in each version.

bible6


Here we have two additional examples of Greek Bible translations. The one on the right is a Hinds & Noble interlinear translation that provides the English translation directly beneath the Greek text ([is] 666). The “sideways” Allah and the crossed swords are clearly identifiable in each version.


Again, in spite of the slight style variations, there is no mistaking the uncanny likeness between the Greek and Arabic characters and symbols. Common sense would seem to dictate that the odds of this happening by sheer coincidence are beyond calculation.


Link to full PDF Article

[link to www.beastfromtheeast.org]
 Quoting: BigNutChuck




look at the arabic handwriting of “in the name of Allah"

and than open this link: [link to www.toxel.com]

scroll down to the Disney logo and take a good look and compair both...
there is a strange resemblance...!!



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He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is willing... teach him.
He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep... awaken him.
He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise... follow him."
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Lets just keep creating a greater division between people,hey

"Im right, your wrong, now Ill have to kill you all" is what starts wars

If there really was a god, do you seriously think it would create such a division and encourage you all to destroy each other

IF its true you would have to see the similarities, but you WONT

You lot make me HATE GOD
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Lets just keep creating a greater division between people,hey

"Im right, your wrong, now Ill have to kill you all" is what starts wars

If there really was a god, do you seriously think it would create such a division and encourage you all to destroy each other

IF its true you would have to see the similarities, but you WONT

You lot make me HATE GOD
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So I can't bring up what someone has found. This ex-muslim turns christian with a theory about translation of old Greek text that have to do with two major religions and because it might hurt someone's feelings I can't talk about it. Come on

When you live under Sharia law then you can really hate THEIR GOD.

This is the muslim's goal not mine. I don't care what you believe in, but they do. They are taught to spread globally. This subject will affect every person on this planet and their kids. If you are good with being muslim and living under Sharia law then you won't have a problem, but I am not living under that B.S. Therefor we have to expose these people for what they are and finally draw a line in the sand, along with many other lines on other evils that are affecting everyone!
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Nice name for someone flying the flag.
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If there really was a god, do you seriously think it would create such a division
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Genesis 11:7

God speaking:


"Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."
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If there really was a god, do you seriously think it would create such a division



Genesis 11:7

God speaking:


"Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."

 Quoting: Sugarelf




I can't believe I am saying this, but Glen Beck had a show the other day about how this verse had to do with One World Government and it kind of made sense.

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But Islam does not fit the criteria for the 2nd beast (from out of the earth) that makes an image to the FIRST beast (that rose out of the sea) in Revelation 13.

If you devote the proper study, you can easily prove that the first beast is none other than the Roman Catholic church. The second beast (with two horns like a lamb) is the USA, which eventually speaks (makes laws) as a dragon, and causes all to worship the FIRST beast, via it's MARK.

And the Roman Catholic church refers to SUN-day observance, as it's "mark of authority". SUN-day is very much tied to sun worship, and has NOTHING to do with true Christianity. Research the history of how it was substituted for Gods Sabbath day, originally by Constantine in 321 AD, just as prophesied by Daniel, in Daniel 7:25.

Notice that in Revelation 17, the Harlot (riding and controlling the beast) is dressed in purple and scarlet, and is drunk with the blood of the saints. As you know, the RCC murdered anywhere from 50-200 million people from 538 AD, to 1798, when it received it's "deadly wound", which was healed in 1929, and the Vatican became a nation state.

The RCC, along with it's ultra subversive Jesuit Order, has been working behind the scenes ever since, to bring about their desired NWO. For those who are paying close attention, it is truly ASTOUNDING just how much control the Vatican has over the world, and the mostly "Protestant" USA.

As you can plainly see, our "government" is totally allowing the unbelievable influx of CATHOLIC third worlders to invade this country. And now, we have 6 (there's that number again) Catholic supreme court justices, and three Jews. And ZERO Protestants.

It's been known for a long time now that the popes title, "Vacarius Filii Dei" adds up to 666 in Latin, Greek, Hebrew, and Roman numerals. The present popew was a Hitler Brown shirt, and even the last pope, sold Zyklon B to the Nazi's. Do the research yourself. The only people denying this, are of course, Catholics, and the Catholic church.

The Nazi's were fully supported by the Vatican. Do the research. Type in the words Nazi + Catholic into your search engine. Watch the catholic Nazi connection videos. they're available on youtube, etc... Hitler, Himmler, and Jesuit trained Goebbels, and most of the major Nazi's were Catholic. All of this is EASILY researched, and historical fact.

Notice how Switzerland wasn't invaded in WW-II. Notice to this day, who guards the Vatican. The SWISS GUARD.




But, hey... if you wish to see how Islam fits into all of this, watch a video called, "The Islamic Connection". You can find it on Googlevideo.com
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If there really was a god, do you seriously think it would create such a division



Genesis 11:7

God speaking:


"Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."

 Quoting: Sugarelf








"Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth, but a sword (division)."

<The Messiah speaking>
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Well maybe the "mark" is all of Islam forcing everyone to convert to Muslim?? Makes sense to me... if you don't accept their religion you die
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Very interesting and much appreciated. This seems to be close to the truth.
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Interesting thread OP. Have you seen/read this?

[link to ivarfjeld.wordpress.com]
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If there really was a god, do you seriously think it would create such a division



Genesis 11:7

God speaking:


"Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other."





I can't believe I am saying this, but Glen Beck had a show the other day about how this verse had to do with One World Government and it kind of made sense.

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I know
 Quoting: BigNutChuck


huh....interesting....

not a Beck fan, but yes it does have to with with one world government....
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But Islam does not fit the criteria for the 2nd beast (from out of the earth) that makes an image to the FIRST beast (that rose out of the sea) in Revelation 13.

If you devote the proper study, you can easily prove that the first beast is none other than the Roman Catholic church. The second beast (with two horns like a lamb) is the USA, which eventually speaks (makes laws) as a dragon, and causes all to worship the FIRST beast, via it's MARK.

And the Roman Catholic church refers to SUN-day observance, as it's "mark of authority". SUN-day is very much tied to sun worship, and has NOTHING to do with true Christianity. Research the history of how it was substituted for Gods Sabbath day, originally by Constantine in 321 AD, just as prophesied by Daniel, in Daniel 7:25.

Notice that in Revelation 17, the Harlot (riding and controlling the beast) is dressed in purple and scarlet, and is drunk with the blood of the saints. As you know, the RCC murdered anywhere from 50-200 million people from 538 AD, to 1798, when it received it's "deadly wound", which was healed in 1929, and the Vatican became a nation state.

The RCC, along with it's ultra subversive Jesuit Order, has been working behind the scenes ever since, to bring about their desired NWO. For those who are paying close attention, it is truly ASTOUNDING just how much control the Vatican has over the world, and the mostly "Protestant" USA.

As you can plainly see, our "government" is totally allowing the unbelievable influx of CATHOLIC third worlders to invade this country. And now, we have 6 (there's that number again) Catholic supreme court justices, and three Jews. And ZERO Protestants.

It's been known for a long time now that the popes title, "Vacarius Filii Dei" adds up to 666 in Latin, Greek, Hebrew, and Roman numerals. The present popew was a Hitler Brown shirt, and even the last pope, sold Zyklon B to the Nazi's. Do the research yourself. The only people denying this, are of course, Catholics, and the Catholic church.

The Nazi's were fully supported by the Vatican. Do the research. Type in the words Nazi + Catholic into your search engine. Watch the catholic Nazi connection videos. they're available on youtube, etc... Hitler, Himmler, and Jesuit trained Goebbels, and most of the major Nazi's were Catholic. All of this is EASILY researched, and historical fact.

Notice how Switzerland wasn't invaded in WW-II. Notice to this day, who guards the Vatican. The SWISS GUARD.




But, hey... if you wish to see how Islam fits into all of this, watch a video called, "The Islamic Connection". You can find it on Googlevideo.com
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169845



Watching it but will take a while, over 1 hour long. Think I see the point and is interesting but will have to finish it to form opinion.
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Well maybe the "mark" is all of Islam forcing everyone to convert to Muslim?? Makes sense to me... if you don't accept their religion you die
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Christians promote the same 'idea', albeit your soul after you die....


and of course certain Christians have practiced the same philosophy in the past....Spanish Inquisition....


'course the original Muslims were very tolerant of other religions....Muslims were hailed as 'liberators' by the Jews of Palestine in the eighth century AD....
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Interesting thread OP. Have you seen/read this?

[link to ivarfjeld.wordpress.com]
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Read part. Think it is the same as the video above suggested by another user. Watching the vid and then read this site.

I think I know what both of you are saying or getting at and it is interesting. Will get back after read and watch video.
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Shouldn't we have the short bus pulling up by now saying the Pope is the anti-Christ?
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Shouldn't we have the short bus pulling up by now saying the Pope is the anti-Christ?
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I see where the 'anti-Christ' is Jesus....

the person Jesus was before he became 'Christ' so-to-speak....

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