How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? | |
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| What Ever (OP) 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? The explosives are of military origin. They have a substance know as a taggant incorporated into them. This taggant is unique and allows investigators to trace military explosives to the source country. |
| Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? Without taggants, there is no way of knowing where they came from... Taggants have only been inserted for about a decade, and then only in countries where they have been mandated (most of the west and allies)...Most eastern-bloc countries (and China etc) have no taggants...Unsure about Russia, but I suspect that they have mandated them also... "TAGGANT A solid, liquid, or vapor emitting substance put into an explosive material for the purposes of detection or identification. Also known as a marker or tracer element." If the stuff is homemade, it can have all the properties of ´Military Grade´ explosives, but without the taggants... The only clues you have to go on then are the components of the bomb, materials in the explosive compound themselves, and the ratios of the materials... There are simple to follow directions for high-explosives all over the net... |
| What Ever (OP) 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? Do you know how to read 808? They are admitting that they are Military explosives. I know that they know the source of the explosives because they found taggant in the residue. They are not revealing the source though. Why? ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? They are reporting on it. The story is just a few hours old in the first place. The London Times has a story on it. [link to www.timesonline.co.uk] |
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| What Ever (OP) 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? 16545, they have only reported that they believe they could be from the Balkans, but my sources, military I may add, say the explosives are Albanian. They even know the lot number and the time/day that they were made and who they were sold to. |
| Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? Another story with a Balkan source. [link to www.newsmax.com] |
| Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? "Do you know how to read 808? They are admitting that they are Military explosives." Apparently not... Nowhere in that piece you cut and pasted does it say that they found a taggant or that they know what country the stuff came from... So how, o-self-declared-wise-one, do you know that they found a taggant?... Where as YOUR paste job states: "Christophe Chaboud, head of the French Anti-Terrorism Co-ordination Unit, told Le Monde newspaper that the explosives used in the bombings were of " military origin", which he described as "very worrying"." It conveniently leaves out the entite quote: ""The nature of the explosives appears to be military, which is very worrying," said Superintendent Christophe Chaboud," [link to www.sciencedaily.com] Notice he says that the explosive "appears to be military"... So unless YOU have something that states they have a taggant, then you are just dealing in speculation for your own agenda... |
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| Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? dont believe you, what proof do you have? source in the military, well they must be pretty high up? just because they are in the army doesn´t mean they know jack. please explain more of your contact? |
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| Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? Bomber died in London bus blast The army has been helping the police with the operation The London bus bomber died in the explosion, it has been revealed, as police make arrests in Yorkshire. [link to news.bbc.co.uk] |
| Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? Possibly OP belongs to the Sorcha Faal Club. Take same news, forget some detail, liberally add others, ivent where necessary. Until the cooked dish is just your flavour. Truth is optional, of course. |
| What Ever (OP) 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? It just so happens that my source is a vetran of three wars, Gulf war one, the Balkans war, and Gulf war two. He knows his shit, and he also knows higher ups that he got the information from which he shared with me last night. He is very concerned that they are planning more bombings as the lot that the explosives belong to was very large and unaccounted for. ![]() |
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| the other shoe (OP) 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? The FBI also seized all the videotapes in Oklahoma City from the merchants along the street of the Murrah Building (source: Alex Jones´ 911 Descent into Tyranny). None of them were ever returned, nothing heard about them again...yes, it´s so convenient that the camera on the bus was ´faulty´. |
| What Ever (OP) 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? Nothing new here with debunkers floundering about. What constitutes proof to an ac anyway? Nothing short of beating them up side the head will prove to them that pain is real, so what the fuck. I don´t care if you believe me or not. Just for conversations sake, lets assume that what I am reporting here is true, what are the ramifications? Why not disclose the source? That is all I am asking here. |
| sky news (OP) 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? ALL FOUR BOMBERS DIED All four suspected bombers died during the London terror attacks, according to police sources. Sky News crime correspondent Martin Brunt said three bombers died in separate Tube attacks and one was killed in the No 30 bus blast. Detectives believe all four were British citizens, Brunt said. |
| Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? "Nothing new here with debunkers floundering about." Floundering about? You may well be right about Albania...But so far you can not prove shit...All you have is that some drinking buddy ´told you so´... Well gosh... I´m convinced... LMAO |
| What Ever (OP) 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? 808, we were not drinking so why even bring that to the table? Because by inference, we were drunk at the time? Is that the best you have to offer? Like I said, what are the ramifications to disclosing that Albania is the country of origin for the explosives? That is the question. It can be taken as pure speculation on your part that Albania is the source country, it is not require for this dialog that you believe it. The question should be explored, even if you are in doubt at the moment of the fact that they are from that country. |
| Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? "Like I said, what are the ramifications to disclosing that Albania is the country of origin for the explosives? That is the question." No...The question is, why do you insist it is Albania without any other evidence than ´someone told me so´???... As I stated...You may be right...You may not... Why do you think that there is some incredible conspiracy or that there is an ulterior motive to not annoucing that the explosives originated from ´Albania´??? |
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| What Ever (OP) 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? No...The question is, why do you insist it is Albania without any other evidence than ´someone told me so´???... Because it is true, but you may know that already. You could be a spin controller for the government. What proof do offer that you are not? You seem to be very intent on shutting down any conversation involving the idea that Albania is the source of the bobm making material. Why is that? As I stated...You may be right...You may not... I do care if every bloody hell person on this forum thinks I am right. The discussion is still why would they not want to disclose the fact that Albania is the source country? Why do you think that there is some incredible conspiracy or that there is an ulterior motive to not annoucing that the explosives originated from ´Albania´??? You are the one thinking it is a conspiracy. As far as I know they have a good reason not to disclose the information, I just have not thought of it yet. ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How come the media is not reporting that the explosives used in the London bombs have been traced to Albania? "Because it is true, but you may know that already. You could be a spin controller for the government. What proof do offer that you are not? You seem to be very intent on shutting down any conversation involving the idea that Albania is the source of the bobm making material. Why is that?" It is true because you say so? "As far as I know they have a good reason not to disclose the information, I just have not thought of it yet." You have not ´thought´ of it yet... I rest my case...You are just making shit up... Sad cuz you may have a point, but it is lost in your lunatic rambling... |
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