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Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-

 
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11/20/2010 03:41 PM
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Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
Air travelers in the United States are now given two options at the security gate -- be groin-groped by gloved Transportation Security Administration agents, or photographed "naked" in the back-scatter X-ray device that Jeffrey Goldberg at The Atlantic calls "the porn machine."
[link to www.nypost.com]
You can thank failed "underwear bomber" Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab for this one. While armies tragically tend to fight the last war, the TSA looks for the item the most recent terrorist used. [link to www.nypost.com]
After 9/11, everything sharp -- even tweezers -- was banned. Ever since Richard Reid tried and failed to light his loafers on fire, security agents have forced us to take off our shoes. British authorities rounded up terrorists who planned to bring liquid explosives on board, and we've all been prohibited from carrying shampoo through the gate ever since.
Terrorists have yet to use the same weapon twice, and the TSA isn't even looking for whatever they'll try to use next. I can think of all sorts of things a person could use to wreak havoc on a plane that aren't banned. Security officials should pay less attention to objects, and more attention to people.

The Israelis do. They are, out of dreadful necessity, the world's foremost experts in counterterrorism. And they couldn't care less about what your grandmother brings on a plane. Instead, officials at Ben Gurion International Airport interview everyone in line before they're even allowed to check in.



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11/20/2010 03:43 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
Instead, officials at Ben Gurion International Airport interview everyone in line before they're even allowed to check in.
 Quoting: ~GAIA~


cruise

so you're just like the GESTAPO now.

priceless... 1rof1
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11/20/2010 03:44 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
the xray machine gives you a lethal does of radiation an makes you sterile then kills you... angenda 21 police state depopulation..
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
Instead, officials at Ben Gurion International Airport interview everyone in line before they're even allowed to check in.


cruise

so you're just like the GESTAPO now.

priceless... 1rof1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170472


no, you are like the Gestapo now.
What a wicked laugh
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
the xray machine gives you a lethal dose of radiation an makes you sterile then kills you... angenda 21 police state depopulation..
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11/20/2010 03:45 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
ElAl serves food with metal utensils. They can. They have openly armed (not covert) security on board. Who is going to try something stupid with a knife or fork with Yossi standing 10 feet away with a zip gun holstered on his hip?
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11/20/2010 03:47 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
no, you are like the Gestapo now.
What a wicked laugh




 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170472

you are a waste of space and time
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11/20/2010 03:49 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
Your country is still operating with common sense, Gaia, we made a wrong turn at insanity and haven't looked back.
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11/20/2010 03:49 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
"
You can thank failed "underwear bomber" Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab for this one."

the dood mossad put on the plane ya mean?
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11/20/2010 03:52 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
Finally something I can agree with you on. And for those in the USA just think how many bomb sniffing dogs these hundreds of millions would have bought making security more mobile and able to move to hot spots.
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11/20/2010 03:52 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
Say what?

It was a bunch of incompetent yids that let those 19 A-rab boogeymen get on the planes on 9/11!

All 9/11 Airports Serviced by One Israeli Owned Company

It's one of those times when an innocuous comment in an unrelated news report triggers a revelation.

In the article at [link to afrocubaweb.com] there is the following paragraph:"To make the situation worse, a private security company called ICTS, owned by an Israeli, Ezra Harel, and registered in the Netherlands, was employed at Charles de Gaulle airport to screen passengers boarding US planes. Most of its personnel are ex-Shin Bet officers. The company covers security at Boston's Logan airport, where the American Airlines plane came down after flight attendants and passengers overpowered Reid."

[link to whatreallyhappened.com]
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11/20/2010 03:53 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
GAIA post = auto 1 star vote
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11/20/2010 03:54 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
Your country is still operating with common sense, Gaia, we made a wrong turn at insanity and haven't looked back.
 Quoting: Turtles Know


The terrorists have won this time.
The TSA failed showing some kind of sanity.
The new measssures make them look really deseperate.Terrorists are probably now laughing and rolling on the floor.
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11/20/2010 03:55 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
anyway if yer mob would stop stirring up the moosies maybe they would stick to bombing each other for a while and leave us whities alone so we can focus on china.
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11/20/2010 03:55 PM
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 Quoting: aznwarlord


what if someone else were posting this article?
You see what you are doing?
You are a hater, you look BAD.
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11/20/2010 03:56 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
hmmm...thanks for the pin..

hf
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11/20/2010 03:57 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
Clearly the US could learn much from Israel. Their planes haven't been hijacked in decades.

Mind you, if the guys responsible for running the security systems in place at the time of the undiebomber incident had bothered to do their jobs properly, he would never have gotten anywhere near the plane.
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
Your country is still operating with common sense, Gaia, we made a wrong turn at insanity and haven't looked back.


The terrorists have won this time.
The TSA failed showing some kind of sanity.
The new measssures make them look really deseperate.Terrorists are probably now laughing and rolling on the floor.
 Quoting: ~GAIA~



Probably - but I think there is a deeper agenda with the gropes and porn machines. I think they want us to quit flying. I am losing faith in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
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11/20/2010 03:58 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
Your country is still operating with common sense, Gaia, we made a wrong turn at insanity and haven't looked back.


The terrorists have won this time.
The TSA failed showing some kind of sanity.
The new measssures make them look really deseperate.Terrorists are probably now laughing and rolling on the floor.
 Quoting: ~GAIA~

you mean the real terrorists who helped to have this shit put in place to begin with? chertoff being one...
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
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 Quoting: aznwarlord


this :)
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11/20/2010 03:58 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
hmmm...thanks for the pin..

hf
 Quoting: ~GAIA~

rockon
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11/20/2010 04:01 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
"I think they want us to quit flying"

IMHO we are headed for ww3- and things we now consider "normal" like taking a plane wiill soon be a distant memory of the good old days.

this current "enhanced next gen " security "upgrade" is just psych prep for us.

no one will object when we are actually at war- esp after a few nuclear exchanges
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11/20/2010 04:01 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
Your country is still operating with common sense, Gaia, we made a wrong turn at insanity and haven't looked back.


The terrorists have won this time.
The TSA failed showing some kind of sanity.
The new measssures make them look really deseperate.Terrorists are probably now laughing and rolling on the floor.



Probably - but I think there is a deeper agenda with the gropes and porn machines. I think they want us to quit flying. I am losing faith in the land of the free and the home of the brave.
 Quoting: Turtles Know


NO!...dont ever change your plans!
Dont let them win.
All of you must go on with your personal schedules....go on with your life and etc.
United States should start seriously training
the right people to do a better job.
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11/20/2010 04:02 PM
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hmmm...thanks for the pin..

hf

rockon
 Quoting: Coolhandluke74

hugs
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11/20/2010 04:02 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
yeah that's the answer. Force Americans into israeli gestapo style interrogations everywhere they go. Israel is a fascist police state.
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11/20/2010 04:02 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
ElAl serves food with metal utensils. They can. They have openly armed (not covert) security on board. Who is going to try something stupid with a knife or fork with Yossi standing 10 feet away with a zip gun holstered on his hip?
 Quoting: Economics Dork

This is true. I have an American friend who was born in Jersalem. She always feels safe when flying home. The armed guards are very effective.

Tue Nov 9/5/10
No good deed goes unpunished.
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11/20/2010 04:03 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
yeah that's the answer. Force Americans into israeli gestapo style interrogations everywhere they go. Israel is a fascist police state.
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then choose the glove!

happy now?
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11/20/2010 04:04 PM
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 Quoting: aznwarlord


Pretty much.

Nobody's buying the Israeli Ministry of Crapaganda's bullshit anymore.
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11/20/2010 04:04 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
The Israelis do. They are, out of dreadful necessity, the world's foremost experts in counterterrorism. And they couldn't care less about what your grandmother brings on a plane. Instead, officials at Ben Gurion International Airport interview everyone in line before they're even allowed to check in.


 Quoting: ~GAIA~


Yeah .. but this needs people with a brain, experience and human knowledge, the "6 sense" that most cops that are really doing their work develop with the years.

Not some mindless, underpaid worker-drone that guarded the entry of "Joe´s cardboard factory" in nightshift 2 months ago.
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11/20/2010 04:05 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
SO in Israel if they don't like the way you look you just don't get in the airport. I see.

lmao
Yeah, sounds like a real open society there.

I think we should allow any passenger on an aircraft who is legally allowed to carry a firearm to bring it on the plane on his person.

Thats what the Constitution guarantees, that that right shall not be withdrawn for any pittling reason.

You have to admit, 911 couldn't have happened as claimed if there had been one citizen with a pistol on each of the flights.
End of discussion.
Freedom isn't safe, if you want safety under fascism go to Israel
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11/20/2010 04:06 PM
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Re: Forget the 'porn machines' -How Israelis secure airports-
Why don't you just come out and say it: You want to give Israeli security companies free reign over American airline security similar to how Israeli companies currently manage wiretapping equipment and implement Federal wiretapping requests in America. Just imagine all of the industrial trade secrets and other information that Israel can glean from people's laptops, cellphones, and brains as they move through security!

Remember that all of the airports involved in 9/11 (and the Crotch bomber, and the Shoe Bomber I think) had security serviced by ICTS International.

[link to www.haaretz.com]

Israeli security is great... for Israel. Create a problem, then move in and take over "security". The grip is getting awfully tight over here.





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