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JESUS THE FALSE PROPHET DECEIVED THE WORLD AWAY FROM THE WAY OF GOD IN THE BIBLE

 
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BTW - believing without knowing is mere superstition


BELIEVING WITHOUT KNOWING IS FAITH!!!


it's not about having faith

it's about BEING faithful

Abraham was FAITHFUL and it was counted unto him as righteousness

action

not just cognative thought


FAITH IS THE SUBSTANCE OF THINGS HOPED FOR, THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN....

NO KNOWLEGE...

JUST BELIEF!!!



That's the very definition of IGNORANCE!

ignorance [ˈɪgnərəns]
n
lack of knowledge, information, or education; the state of being ignorant

Pro 1:22 'How long, ye thoughtless, will ye love thoughtlessness? And how long will scorners delight them in scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

Pro 1:28 Then will they call me, but I will not answer, they will seek me earnestly, but they shall not find me.
Pro 1:29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD;
Pro 1:30 They would none of my counsel, they despised all my reproof.
Pro 1:31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
Pro 1:32 For the waywardness of the thoughtless shall slay them, and the confidence of fools shall destroy them.



Pro 10:14 Wise men lay up knowledge; but the mouth of the foolish is an imminent ruin.

Pro 19:2 Also, that the soul be without knowledge is not good; and he that hasteth with his feet sinneth.


Need I continue?

There's plenty more.



STICK TO THE FACTS, PLEASE...


WHAT IS "THE TRUTH"????
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NO ANSWER!!!

JESUS CHRIST WINS!!!


ALL THANKS GOES TO THE FATHER IN HEAVEN!!!!


ALL PRAISES GOES TO JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF THE FATHER!!!


ONLY BY THE GRACE OF JESUS CHRIST ARE WE SAVED...

FOR THE LAW!!!
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BTW - believing without knowing is mere superstition


BELIEVING WITHOUT KNOWING IS FAITH!!!


it's not about having faith

it's about BEING faithful

Abraham was FAITHFUL and it was counted unto him as righteousness

action

not just cognative thought


FAITH IS THE SUBSTANCE OF THINGS HOPED FOR, THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN....

NO KNOWLEGE...

JUST BELIEF!!!



That's the very definition of IGNORANCE!

ignorance [ˈɪgnərəns]
n
lack of knowledge, information, or education; the state of being ignorant

Pro 1:22 'How long, ye thoughtless, will ye love thoughtlessness? And how long will scorners delight them in scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

Pro 1:28 Then will they call me, but I will not answer, they will seek me earnestly, but they shall not find me.
Pro 1:29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD;
Pro 1:30 They would none of my counsel, they despised all my reproof.
Pro 1:31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
Pro 1:32 For the waywardness of the thoughtless shall slay them, and the confidence of fools shall destroy them.



Pro 10:14 Wise men lay up knowledge; but the mouth of the foolish is an imminent ruin.

Pro 19:2 Also, that the soul be without knowledge is not good; and he that hasteth with his feet sinneth.


Need I continue?

There's plenty more.



STICK TO THE FACTS, PLEASE...


WHAT IS "THE TRUTH"????


NO ANSWER!!!

JESUS CHRIST WINS!!!


ALL THANKS GOES TO THE FATHER IN HEAVEN!!!!


ALL PRAISES GOES TO JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF THE FATHER!!!


ONLY BY THE GRACE OF JESUS CHRIST ARE WE SAVED...

FOR THE LAW!!!
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AMEN BROTHER!!!


PEACE AND GRACE AND LOVE TO YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!!!
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Christianity is a creation of the 'Illuminati' - what we know today as the Merovingian bloodline - it was invented to control slaves.





Illuminati ,Merovingian bloodline - please explain Who this creatures are, and how exactly they've created Christianity. Please, with dates and names. If you cant defend this statement of yours, you are simply propagating Vatican created , new age movement spread , DaVinci Code type of lie. And this is not funny, this is Satanic...


This!!!! Let's see a thread on this topic, with links and direct proof, Mrs. Smith. Please link your new thread here.

Otherwise, you lose all credibility.
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[link to www.angelfire.com]
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I appreciate the links, but I would appreciate more an actual thread by you for us to discuss these matters... You've made a pretty controversial claim and it would be nice to see a brief introduction to the evidence in a place that we can devote to that topic.
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I appreciate the links, but I would appreciate more an actual thread by you for us to discuss these matters... You've made a pretty controversial claim and it would be nice to see a brief introduction to the evidence in a place that we can devote to that topic.
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That's a wonderful idea! As I stated earlier, I uncovered the link between Josephus, Paul, Apollonius and the NT on my own before discovering the links I posted. I had been doing deep 1st century history research into the origins and original doctrines of Christianity. What I found really challenged me, was TOTALLY not what I expected and forced into even deeper scripture study and prayer for YHWH's Truth to be revealed.

I have a lot to do today and will be traveling to Oahu and back tommorrow for my daughter's Dr appointment so I may not be able to lay out the info in a thread immediately. I'll PM you as soon as I do - hopefully I'll have some time this evening.
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I appreciate the links, but I would appreciate more an actual thread by you for us to discuss these matters... You've made a pretty controversial claim and it would be nice to see a brief introduction to the evidence in a place that we can devote to that topic.



That's a wonderful idea! As I stated earlier, I uncovered the link between Josephus, Paul, Apollonius and the NT on my own before discovering the links I posted. I had been doing deep 1st century history research into the origins and original doctrines of Christianity. What I found really challenged me, was TOTALLY not what I expected and forced into even deeper scripture study and prayer for YHWH's Truth to be revealed.

I have a lot to do today and will be traveling to Oahu and back tommorrow for my daughter's Dr appointment so I may not be able to lay out the info in a thread immediately. I'll PM you as soon as I do - hopefully I'll have some time this evening.
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Thatd be awesome thank you!
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I appreciate the links, but I would appreciate more an actual thread by you for us to discuss these matters... You've made a pretty controversial claim and it would be nice to see a brief introduction to the evidence in a place that we can devote to that topic.



That's a wonderful idea! As I stated earlier, I uncovered the link between Josephus, Paul, Apollonius and the NT on my own before discovering the links I posted. I had been doing deep 1st century history research into the origins and original doctrines of Christianity. What I found really challenged me, was TOTALLY not what I expected and forced into even deeper scripture study and prayer for YHWH's Truth to be revealed.

I have a lot to do today and will be traveling to Oahu and back tommorrow for my daughter's Dr appointment so I may not be able to lay out the info in a thread immediately. I'll PM you as soon as I do - hopefully I'll have some time this evening.


Thatd be awesome thank you!
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Hi Riker!

It really is the most amazing and unsettling rabbit hole I've ever found. Because I came upon it from my own research and not others first, I want to put together a little backround on just how I got there first.

I also did not document or save links so I'll need to retrace my steps a bit.

Working on all that tonight and will most likely post the thread on Friday as I won't be able to respond tomorrow.
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I appreciate the links, but I would appreciate more an actual thread by you for us to discuss these matters... You've made a pretty controversial claim and it would be nice to see a brief introduction to the evidence in a place that we can devote to that topic.



That's a wonderful idea! As I stated earlier, I uncovered the link between Josephus, Paul, Apollonius and the NT on my own before discovering the links I posted. I had been doing deep 1st century history research into the origins and original doctrines of Christianity. What I found really challenged me, was TOTALLY not what I expected and forced into even deeper scripture study and prayer for YHWH's Truth to be revealed.

I have a lot to do today and will be traveling to Oahu and back tommorrow for my daughter's Dr appointment so I may not be able to lay out the info in a thread immediately. I'll PM you as soon as I do - hopefully I'll have some time this evening.
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I don't know if you are familiar with Josh McDowell. He started his research with one purpose - to refute the claim of Christianity and to prove that NT is a bogus.

All of his works are based on historical, archaeological, and bibliographical evidence.

Check out his site it has lot's of free materials to download.

[link to www.josh.org]
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I appreciate the links, but I would appreciate more an actual thread by you for us to discuss these matters... You've made a pretty controversial claim and it would be nice to see a brief introduction to the evidence in a place that we can devote to that topic.



That's a wonderful idea! As I stated earlier, I uncovered the link between Josephus, Paul, Apollonius and the NT on my own before discovering the links I posted. I had been doing deep 1st century history research into the origins and original doctrines of Christianity. What I found really challenged me, was TOTALLY not what I expected and forced into even deeper scripture study and prayer for YHWH's Truth to be revealed.

I have a lot to do today and will be traveling to Oahu and back tommorrow for my daughter's Dr appointment so I may not be able to lay out the info in a thread immediately. I'll PM you as soon as I do - hopefully I'll have some time this evening.


I don't know if you are familiar with Josh McDowell. He started his research with one purpose - to refute the claim of Christianity and to prove that NT is a bogus.

All of his works are based on historical, archaeological, and bibliographical evidence.

Check out his site it has lot's of free materials to download.

[link to www.josh.org]
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Thanks! I'll take a look.

I actually started from an opposite premise.
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I appreciate the links, but I would appreciate more an actual thread by you for us to discuss these matters... You've made a pretty controversial claim and it would be nice to see a brief introduction to the evidence in a place that we can devote to that topic.



That's a wonderful idea! As I stated earlier, I uncovered the link between Josephus, Paul, Apollonius and the NT on my own before discovering the links I posted. I had been doing deep 1st century history research into the origins and original doctrines of Christianity. What I found really challenged me, was TOTALLY not what I expected and forced into even deeper scripture study and prayer for YHWH's Truth to be revealed.

I have a lot to do today and will be traveling to Oahu and back tommorrow for my daughter's Dr appointment so I may not be able to lay out the info in a thread immediately. I'll PM you as soon as I do - hopefully I'll have some time this evening.


I don't know if you are familiar with Josh McDowell. He started his research with one purpose - to refute the claim of Christianity and to prove that NT is a bogus.

All of his works are based on historical, archaeological, and bibliographical evidence.

Check out his site it has lot's of free materials to download.

[link to www.josh.org]
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THATS ALL ONE HAS TO DO IS LOOK AT THE FACTS...


THE FACTS ARE JESUS CHRIST IS "THE TRUTH"....


ALL OTHER ANSWERS ARE INCORRECT...

THAT IS WHY JESUS CHRIST IS "THE TRUTH" "THE WAY" AND "THE LIFE".....



PEACE AND GRACE AND LOVE TO YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!!!!
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I appreciate the links, but I would appreciate more an actual thread by you for us to discuss these matters... You've made a pretty controversial claim and it would be nice to see a brief introduction to the evidence in a place that we can devote to that topic.



That's a wonderful idea! As I stated earlier, I uncovered the link between Josephus, Paul, Apollonius and the NT on my own before discovering the links I posted. I had been doing deep 1st century history research into the origins and original doctrines of Christianity. What I found really challenged me, was TOTALLY not what I expected and forced into even deeper scripture study and prayer for YHWH's Truth to be revealed.

I have a lot to do today and will be traveling to Oahu and back tommorrow for my daughter's Dr appointment so I may not be able to lay out the info in a thread immediately. I'll PM you as soon as I do - hopefully I'll have some time this evening.


I don't know if you are familiar with Josh McDowell. He started his research with one purpose - to refute the claim of Christianity and to prove that NT is a bogus.

All of his works are based on historical, archaeological, and bibliographical evidence.

Check out his site it has lot's of free materials to download.

[link to www.josh.org]



THATS ALL ONE HAS TO DO IS LOOK AT THE FACTS...


THE FACTS ARE JESUS CHRIST IS "THE TRUTH"....


ALL OTHER ANSWERS ARE INCORRECT...

THAT IS WHY JESUS CHRIST IS "THE TRUTH" "THE WAY" AND "THE LIFE".....



PEACE AND GRACE AND LOVE TO YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!!!!
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Papacy, Babylon and the Roman Antichrist
[link to www.vaticanassassins.org]

[link to shatteringdenial.com]

And about the "Merovingian Dynasty" - one more creation of a Whore. Satan is a father of confusion, and many now are confused and deceived..

A Former Occultist Looks At
The Da Vinci Code

[link to www.lasttrumpetministries.org]

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I don't know if you are familiar with Josh McDowell. He started his research with one purpose - to refute the claim of Christianity and to prove that NT is a bogus.

All of his works are based on historical, archaeological, and bibliographical evidence.

Check out his site it has lot's of free materials to download.

[link to www.josh.org]



Thanks! I'll take a look.

I actually started from an opposite premise.
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me777 - is there anyway you could point me to some of his research on his site? I'd like to research and compare his findings.

All I found are PDFs of his current doctrine and links to buy his books. I may just not being seeing it.

Thanks!
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I don't know if you are familiar with Josh McDowell. He started his research with one purpose - to refute the claim of Christianity and to prove that NT is a bogus.

All of his works are based on historical, archaeological, and bibliographical evidence.

Check out his site it has lot's of free materials to download.

[link to www.josh.org]



Thanks! I'll take a look.

I actually started from an opposite premise.



me777 - is there anyway you could point me to some of his research on his site? I'd like to research and compare his findings.

All I found are PDFs of his current doctrine and links to buy his books. I may just not being seeing it.

Thanks!
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I will check tomorrow it's very late now. Here is his video - just to have some idea of his work.
The Authenticity of the Bible - Part 1 - Josh McDowell



P.2



Of course reading his books would be the best, or you can contact him yourself with all the questions, I think it's possible.
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I don't know if you are familiar with Josh McDowell. He started his research with one purpose - to refute the claim of Christianity and to prove that NT is a bogus.

All of his works are based on historical, archaeological, and bibliographical evidence.

Check out his site it has lot's of free materials to download.

[link to www.josh.org]



Thanks! I'll take a look.

I actually started from an opposite premise.



me777 - is there anyway you could point me to some of his research on his site? I'd like to research and compare his findings.

All I found are PDFs of his current doctrine and links to buy his books. I may just not being seeing it.

Thanks!


I will check tomorrow it's very late now. Here is his video - just to have some idea of his work.
The Authenticity of the Bible - Part 1 - Josh McDowell



P.2



P.3



P.4




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Just watched all the videos above. He appeals to emotion but is way off base and lacking when it comes to facts. Maybe he has more substance in his books but since several of his comments where either straight up false or highly ignorant, I doubt it.

Thank you for sharing though!

My opinion of his "research" in no way reflects on you my dear!

hf


Edit: One example: he says he's researched for 4 years but yet he seems not to know that all 4 gospels are anonymous - no one knows who wrote them!

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Just watched all the videos above. He appeals to emotion but is way off base and lacking when it comes to facts. Maybe he has more substance in his books but since several of his comments where either straight up false or highly ignorant, I doubt it.

Thank you for sharing though!

My opinion of his "research" in no way reflects on you my dear!

hf


Edit: One example: he says he's researched for 4 years but yet he seems not to know that all 4 gospels are anonymous - no one knows who wrote them!
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YOU CAN NOT SEE "THE TRUTH" WHEN PUT RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU...


YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE CHOSEN!!!


LOVE YOU ANYWAY IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!!!!
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Just watched all the videos above. He appeals to emotion but is way off base and lacking when it comes to facts. Maybe he has more substance in his books but since several of his comments where either straight up false or highly ignorant, I doubt it.

Thank you for sharing though!

My opinion of his "research" in no way reflects on you my dear!

hf


Edit: One example: he says he's researched for 4 years but yet he seems not to know that all 4 gospels are anonymous - no one knows who wrote them!


YOU CAN NOT SEE "THE TRUTH" WHEN PUT RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU...


YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE CHOSEN!!!


LOVE YOU ANYWAY IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!!!!
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"THE TRUTH"..


IS ABSOLUTE....


AND IS ABSOLUTE ONLY BY THE GRACE OF JESUS CHRIST...


WHICH IS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE...


TO REFUSE...

IS TO LIVE UNDER THE LAW..


THE LAW IS DEATH...


GRACE IS LIFE....


YOU HAVE CHOSEN THE LAW...


GREAT!!!
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But thou, Beth-lehem Ephrathah, which art little to be among the thousands of Judah, out of thee shall one come forth unto Me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth are from of old, from ancient days.

Therefore will He give them up, until the time that she who travaileth hath brought forth; then the residue of his brethren shall return with the children of Israel.

And he shall stand, and shall feed his flock in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God; and they shall abide, for then shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.

Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.

As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water.

Turn you to the strong hold, ye prisoners of hope: even to day do I declare that I will render double unto thee;
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Edit: One example: he says he's researched for 4 years but yet he seems not to know that all 4 gospels are anonymous - no one knows who wrote them!
 Quoting: Mrs. Smith

That is what is currently taught. How much would it affect the Churches today (and Judaism and Islam) if they had to accept some things written in the Bible as being a 'fact'. Your understanding on the writers being one such example.

The 4 Gospels are all eye-witness accounts, The end of the Gospel of John says they were a witness to everything they wrote about from the 1st chapter. 4 other books are attributed to that author, they either hold water or they do not. There are enough verses to define who the beloved Disciple is and it points to it being a disciple of John the Baptist rather than it being an Apostle. Those 12 were chosen apart. That is the easy part to accept, the hard part is accepting that the writer was also a woman that would have been 'without ant demons' when she and Jesus met that first time after He came back from a 40 day fast in the wilderness.

The other 3 books have two common things that stand out. The same 3 are said to be at a resurrection of a little girl and at the vision on a mountain top that was to remain hidden until after the cross. To be an eye-witness those 3 would have to be the writers. Matthew should be by Peter as he is the Rock of Christianity (1st to preach to the Gentiles), Luke could be James, brother to Jesus and that is how he knows about Mary's family tree.

A side by side comparison of which events are covered in their unique perspective would allow fine tuning who wrote what.

To do a rip-off the shorter book (Mark) is usually the product, not the inspiration.

The Bible promotes that the 4 Gospels could have been written at any time after they writers were baptized with the Holy Spirit that brought perfect remembrance of what words Jesus actually used, that was then written down sooner rather than later, that adds to their strength as being 'from God' rather than folk-lore which came centuries later.

That is the method I used to determine who the writers were, and at present I don't expect all the references I have to be dis-proven, 10 references that point to that (as close to proof as the Bible gives.

What was your system of investigation that leads you to believe that nobody knows who wrote them and that they are not eye-witness accounts?

(as scribes delivering a message from Jesus they would use their name rather than give themselves the title 'I' or similar. ('then Peter .....' rather than 'then I ......') )
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Just watched all the videos above. He appeals to emotion but is way off base and lacking when it comes to facts. Maybe he has more substance in his books but since several of his comments where either straight up false or highly ignorant, I doubt it.

Thank you for sharing though!

My opinion of his "research" in no way reflects on you my dear!

hf


Edit: One example: he says he's researched for 4 years but yet he seems not to know that all 4 gospels are anonymous - no one knows who wrote them!
 Quoting: Mrs. Smith


And how do you know this? Evidence, please.

Honestly the way you doubt this man's research, just by watching one video, and in the same time you are trusting the sites ( I mean the links you posted few posts above) winch make claims without any evidence ( they have none to begin with), and those claims are nothing but Jesuit created propaganda, just like Merovingian blood line, The Holy Grail , Urantia book etc., you take those lies with NO HISTORICAL evidence at all seriously, and you label a serious researcher without even spending time to study the evidence and reading even one book he wrote ? He has pages and pages of bibliography and references to go through, and if you are not willing, all I can tell you - your claims really have no credibility because your approach is not one the serious researcher would take.
It took me a long time to learn what I know now about The Papacy for example, and I researched using professional approach ( I have Masters degree in History) and the story of Yeshua was not my goal at all, when I started my research I was not a believer .
But I came to the conclusion that everything the Whore is done for past 2000 Years is about Him, it's about trying to discredit His story, destroy His message of Salvation. Is to replace God with a doctrines of demons, and many people fall for it, including Rabbinical Jews, who's religion formed within last 2000 Years ,it has gone away from the Torah and heavily influenced by Whore's infiltration. Anything goes as long as Messiah is rejected and mocked. Then we have the Kabbalah unfortunately recognized by Rabbinicals(one more example how far they've gone from the Torah)formed in the Middle Ages, deeply influenced by the Babylonian Mystery Religions ( The Whore's religion)and an ABOMINATION according to the Torah. I can go on and on.

One more example of the bias approach you take: you said that Mr. Brown does not know Hebrew and twists the scripture. This simply is not true. He has a PHD in Eastern languages, his knowledge of the Hebrew scriptures is very deep, and even the Rabbis he often debates don't bring such a ridiculous accusations against him.

Shooting the messengers with no evidence is a non ethical approach.

You are a very nice lady, and it's sad to see you being so deceived by the entity you despise so much.


P.S The major blow to Whore's world domination was delivered during the reformation, when the Bible became available to the people to read. Ask yourself a simple question why Vatican would fabricate a document which would destroy it's very foundation? Why they would burn people for even reading a Bible? Why they corrupt the translations and produce bibles with Yeshua's words taken out from it or twisted , why Vaticanus, and Alexandrian Manuscripts, Gnostic "gospels"? Why all the New Age Spirituality, why the theosophical Luciferian society and so on - all with one target Yeshua.
Can't you see a Major Contradiction?
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Just watched all the videos above. He appeals to emotion but is way off base and lacking when it comes to facts. Maybe he has more substance in his books but since several of his comments where either straight up false or highly ignorant, I doubt it.

Thank you for sharing though!

My opinion of his "research" in no way reflects on you my dear!

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Edit: One example: he says he's researched for 4 years but yet he seems not to know that all 4 gospels are anonymous - no one knows who wrote them!


And how do you know this? Evidence, please.

Honestly the way you doubt this man's research, just by watching one video, and in the same time you are trusting the sites ( I mean the links you posted few posts above) winch make claims without any evidence ( they have none to begin with), and those claims are nothing but Jesuit created propaganda, just like Merovingian blood line, The Holy Grail , Urantia book etc., you take those lies with NO HISTORICAL evidence at all seriously, and you label a serious researcher without even spending time to study the evidence and reading even one book he wrote ? He has pages and pages of bibliography and references to go through, and if you are not willing, all I can tell you - your claims really have no credibility because your approach is not one the serious researcher would take.
It took me a long time to learn what I know now about The Papacy for example, and I researched using professional approach ( I have Masters degree in History) and the story of Yeshua was not my goal at all, when I started my research I was not a believer .
But I came to the conclusion that everything the Whore is done for past 2000 Years is about Him, it's about trying to discredit His story, destroy His message of Salvation. Is to replace God with a doctrines of demons, and many people fall for it, including Rabbinical Jews, who's religion formed within last 2000 Years ,it has gone away from the Torah and heavily influenced by Whore's infiltration. Anything goes as long as Messiah is rejected and mocked. Then we have the Kabbalah unfortunately recognized by Rabbinicals(one more example how far they've gone from the Torah)formed in the Middle Ages, deeply influenced by the Babylonian Mystery Religions ( The Whore's religion)and an ABOMINATION according to the Torah. I can go on and on.

One more example of the bias approach you take: you said that Mr. Brown does not know Hebrew and twists the scripture. This simply is not true. He has a PHD in Eastern languages, his knowledge of the Hebrew scriptures is very deep, and even the Rabbis he often debates don't bring such a ridiculous accusations against him.

Shooting the messengers with no evidence is a non ethical approach.

You are a very nice lady, and it's sad to see you being so deceived by the entity you despise so much.


P.S The major blow to Whore's world domination was delivered during the reformation, when the Bible became available to the people to read. Ask yourself a simple question why Vatican would fabricate a document which would destroy it's very foundation? Why they would burn people for even reading a Bible? Why they corrupt the translations and produce bibles with Yeshua's words taken out from it or twisted , why Vaticanus, and Alexandrian Manuscripts, Gnostic "gospels"? Why all the New Age Spirituality, why the theosophical Luciferian society and so on - all with one target Yeshua.
Can't you see a Major Contradiction?
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I beseech you OP and others who have not put your life in the hand of The LORD to consider. Who have not accepted the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ to repent. He is the only way to salvation. According to scripture, there is no other way.

To those who repent of their ways and receive his gift he truly gives power to be called children of God. To them he gives his gift. This gift was first given to men at Pentecost and is being given out to this day. His gift is (among other things) that oil which lights the lamp.

u]He is the light of the world. Where is this light? This light is housed within earthen vessels (temples). And as long as he is in the world, He is the light of the world. And he is working the works of him who sent him while it is day.

But the time is coming, and soon, when he will come as a thief... to take his light... and to take his bride... And when his Spirit is removed from the world, then comes darkness and gloominess and dark clouds. Then comes the night.
For the light must be removed. It must be hid. There is no darkness in light, nor can there be for it is that light which restrains darkness.

But when that light is removed, then will that which now restrains the man of sin be removed (from the earth). Then will that man of sin be fully revealed. He will be revealed to the world who rejected the son. Who came in the name of the Father. But the man of sin will come in his own name and men will receive him. The will gladly receive and accept the strong delusion which he brings.

Then the fires of refinement will burn hot and be very fierce because the Father has given men much space to repent and accept his instrument of mercy and grace, who is his only begotten Son Jesus Christ, but they did not.

So there will be time no longer.

The Father will now wield his instrument of wrath, which is the man of sin and his army. And they will be fierce and show no mercy towards men - and their wrath will also be great because they know their time is short.

Even still the Father who is very angry with men for rejecting his son will shorten this time (in his mercy).

But in those days will there be for a witness those chosen and an elect who are sealed. Those of the 12 tribes. But also in that time will a great multitude of others glorify God. Through weeping and wailing and turning with all their heart and accepting and glorifying the true Messiah (Jesus Christ). They are the multitudes who come out of great tribulation, who wash thier robes, and make them white in the blood of the lamb.

Dear friends, The bridegrooms return is so near, the day is far spent and the night time is coming very soon. But I fear that your (OP and others) testimonies here do not bear witness of the oil which is required to light the lamp.

I beseech you, be found as a wise virgin at hhis coming. Be found with oil in your lamp at his appearing. When he comes to take his bride. When the the day of judgement upon the earth begins.

Please accept the gift of the Father while it is still day. Accept his Son Jesus Christ who gave himself for all men, that through him, men might be saved. Jesus is the instrument by which God gives us mercy and forgiveness.

He has another instrument, and he withholds it in his patience and mercy. But a time is soon coming when he will wield it, and it will not be merciful nor forgiving.

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Then the fires of refinement will burn hot and be very fierce because the Father has given men much space to repent and accept his instrument of mercy and grace, who is his only begotten Son Jesus Christ, but they did not.
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You share the same violent phantasies, with many of the adherents of the false prophet Muhammed, because your brand of "Christianity" was inspired by the same source.
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me777 -

I did say I was still interesting in reading his straight research - the video is what lacks substance and apeals to the emotion.

I've also never aserted that the RCC wrote the NT - they edited it.

As for the authorship of the gospels, the earlist manuscripts do NOT carry the names of the authors. This is a FACT. Irenaeus in the late 2nd century was the first to give them names. No church father or commentator prior to him quotes from or mentions them as being authored by Matthew, Mark, Luke or John.

And as for 'believing' the websites I linked to. They only reflect some of what I discovered on my own.

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The Father will now wield his instrument of wrath, which is the man of sin and his army. And they will be fierce and show no mercy towards men - and their wrath will also be great because they know their time is short.
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It's not the "father", that has this kind of wishes, it's YOU - for all those who do not obey a very WORLDLY authority. You're just a deluded fool.
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14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.

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You don't need to tell me, that the people with the fucked up sexuality, are usually very prone, to all sorts of "apocalyptic" sentiments.
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Hi Riker!

It really is the most amazing and unsettling rabbit hole I've ever found. Because I came upon it from my own research and not others first, I want to put together a little backround on just how I got there first.

I also did not document or save links so I'll need to retrace my steps a bit.

Working on all that tonight and will most likely post the thread on Friday as I won't be able to respond tomorrow.
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Lookin forward to it! :-)
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The Father will now wield his instrument of wrath, which is the man of sin and his army. And they will be fierce and show no mercy towards men - and their wrath will also be great because they know their time is short.


It's not the "father", that has this kind of wishes, it's YOU - for all those who do not obey a very WORLDLY authority. You're just a deluded fool.
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AMEN BROTHER!!!!


PEACE AND GRACE AND LOVE TO YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!!!!
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Hi Riker!

It really is the most amazing and unsettling rabbit hole I've ever found. Because I came upon it from my own research and not others first, I want to put together a little backround on just how I got there first.

I also did not document or save links so I'll need to retrace my steps a bit.

Working on all that tonight and will most likely post the thread on Friday as I won't be able to respond tomorrow.


Lookin forward to it! :-)
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This may take just a little longer then anticipated as there is no one website that reflects what I discovered over the many months of personal research.

I already started though and in the process, who knows, maybe I'll end up writing a book!

I will try to begin the thread by this evening though with a brief backround and fill in more details as it goes along.
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