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MHz User ID: 1168450 Canada 12/10/2010 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I already started though and in the process, who knows, maybe I'll end up writing a book! Quoting: Mrs. SmithHow would you handle the need to do rewrites, .... should one or two errors pop up in the time after publication? Some would suggest another book at a slightly higher price-tag. |
Mrs. Smith User ID: 1191005 United States 12/10/2010 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I already started though and in the process, who knows, maybe I'll end up writing a book! Quoting: MHzHow would you handle the need to do rewrites, .... should one or two errors pop up in the time after publication? Some would suggest another book at a slightly higher price-tag. If I WERE to right and publish a book, it would only be AFTER my research was complete and fully documented by valid sources. Presenting info and questions on an open forum like this is a great way to discover new and varying research and opinions. When I search, I look at all the aspects I can and not just those that validate my own experiance and beliefs. "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Mrs. Smith User ID: 1114807 United States 12/10/2010 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Riker! Quoting: RikerIt really is the most amazing and unsettling rabbit hole I've ever found. Because I came upon it from my own research and not others first, I want to put together a little backround on just how I got there first. I also did not document or save links so I'll need to retrace my steps a bit. Working on all that tonight and will most likely post the thread on Friday as I won't be able to respond tomorrow. Lookin forward to it! :-) Started the thread. :) Thread: Who REALLY Wrote The "New Testament" And Why? "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
MHz User ID: 1168450 Canada 12/10/2010 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Mrs. Smith Pretty funny, ban me before I even make a reply lol. Without getting too bogged down the verse below are either true or they are lies. If it is not then the Bible is false, both parts. Joh.21:24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true. Joh.21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. 1Jo.1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; As it is I take these words as having more truth in them than all your research can show as they are words from a book, opinions of men who may or may not have has a motive for their writing what they did. Last Edited by MHz on 12/10/2010 11:10 PM |
PalmOfDeborah User ID: 959415 United States 12/10/2010 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Started the thread. :) Quoting: MHzThread: Who REALLY Wrote The "New Testament" And Why? Pretty funny, ban me before I even make a reply lol. Without getting too bogged down the verse below are either true or they are lies. If it is not then the Bible is false, both parts. Joh.21:24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true. Joh.21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. 1Jo.1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; As it is I take these words as having more truth in them than all your research can show as they are words from a book, opinions of men who may or may not have has a motive for their writing what they did. ;) The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
Mrs. Smith User ID: 1114807 United States 12/11/2010 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Started the thread. :) Quoting: MHzThread: Who REALLY Wrote The "New Testament" And Why? Pretty funny, ban me before I even make a reply lol. Without getting too bogged down the verse below are either true or they are lies. If it is not then the Bible is false, both parts. Joh.21:24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true. Joh.21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen. 1Jo.1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; As it is I take these words as having more truth in them than all your research can show as they are words from a book, opinions of men who may or may not have has a motive for their writing what they did. I never banned you from that thread MHz. "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
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PalmOfDeborah User ID: 959415 United States 12/11/2010 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW - is it even possible to ban someone from a thread BEFORE they post on it? Quoting: Mrs. SmithCheck your personal bans. He's there. If you never unbanned him from your previous ban, he is still banned. The greatest illusion is the illusion of separation. |
Mrs. Smith User ID: 1077572 United States 12/11/2010 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW - is it even possible to ban someone from a thread BEFORE they post on it? Quoting: PalmOfDeborahCheck your personal bans. He's there. If you never unbanned him from your previous ban, he is still banned. Just took care of it. I thought it was a thread by thread basis. MHz, you're unbanned as long as you stick to the subject matter. ;) "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
MHz User ID: 1168450 Canada 12/11/2010 01:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MHz, you're unbanned as long as you stick to the subject matter. ;) Quoting: Mrs. SmithThanks but I have posted all I need to for the Paul thread and for this latest one. The question I asked has to do with those verses in my post above. Are they lies when the writer claims to have been there in person? If that applies to one Gospel it also applies to all of them. If the 4 Gospels cannot be trusted then Daniel 9 is in error also since God prophecised that the Messiah would be there for the 70th week. |
Mrs. Smith User ID: 1114807 United States 12/11/2010 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MHz, you're unbanned as long as you stick to the subject matter. ;) Quoting: MHzThanks but I have posted all I need to for the Paul thread and for this latest one. The question I asked has to do with those verses in my post above. Are they lies when the writer claims to have been there in person? If that applies to one Gospel it also applies to all of them. If the 4 Gospels cannot be trusted then Daniel 9 is in error also since God prophecised that the Messiah would be there for the 70th week. According to Biblical scholars, yes. [link to www.earlychristianwritings.com] "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
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The Spirit Of Truth User ID: 1095991 United States 12/12/2010 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WRONG! Thread: FLASH MOB CHORUSES OF HALLELUJAH!!! Putting Christ back into Christmas... Jay The Spirit Of Truth [link to www.SpiritOfTruth.me] TOPPING PATTERN COMPLETE? - [link to thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com] RUSSIA WAS BEHIND 9/11: [link to thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com] RUSSIA'S SECRET WAR PLANS: [link to thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com] RUSSIA'S LYING TO THIS WORLD: [link to thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com] And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. [2 Thessalonians 2:8] Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him. [Psalm 68:4] [link to thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 736040 United States 12/14/2010 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The god of the bible is in essence the devil, at least as far as i have researched. We are told to worship nothing in this world, and are even told that this world belongs to the accuser, or the devil, or satan, or the deciever, whichever you want to call it. Considering that this world is ruled by darkness, giving worship to anything of this world is worship of the spirit of this world, not the Creator. The spirit of this world doesn't give a damn what you worship, so long as it is not the Creator. Everything else is lumped in with that spirit. All your crosses, all your praying to jesus, all your rosaries, all your worship of nature, all your worship of money, all your worship of named entities is nothing more than devil worship. Quoting: the only thing i know is that The prophet from that time (that many ignorant people call jesus) was a message of that. He was trying to teach spirituality through his parables that had more of a spiritual teaching than they did literal interpretations. The Heavenly is beyond human comprehension, and thus there was no way to correlate that to humanity in a coherent, understandable manner. Throughout the years, the message has been diluted and tampered with, with each ruler of the age twisting things to suit their own purposes. Such is the way of the spirit of this world. Blend the truth with lies, so as to ensare as many into the trap as possible. Religion is not the way to god. So many people are caught up in religion and titles, but the path to heaven is narrow, and few are those who find it. Wide is the gate to destruction, and many will go down that path. All the old texts were destroyed, leaving the truth to reside within yourselves. You don't need a book nor a preacher to relate the spiritual to you, because it is a part of us all. BEEN READING FROM THE HUMAN PLAY BOOK!!!! MAY I OFFER A SUGGESTION... CHANGE BOOKS!!! THERE IS MORE TO LIFE THAN WHAT THE HUMAN PLAY BOOK SAYS... TRY READING THE BIBLE FIRST!!!! It is not enough to read the bible, but you have to understand it. The bible even says that we must "rightly divide the word", which is another way of saying that you have to sift through the lies that was known to be planted to find the grains of truth. TO UNDERSTAND... IS TO STAND UNDER THE BIBLE... I WOULD RATHER STAND ON "THE TRUTH" OF THE BIBLE!!!! |
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rb User ID: 1189874 United States 12/15/2010 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOGIC IS TO REASON... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1192791TO REASON IS TO ARGUE WITH "THE TRUTH"... OR TO ARGUE WITH JESUS CHRIST!!! WHY?? TO DECLARE YOURSELF GOD!!! GREAT!!! we are able to reason from the scripture come let us reason together and search the scriptures daily -- diligently -- to see what's so false teachings don't necessarily lead us to believe we are God false teachings point to another way of righteousness other than Jesus Christ or pile on more requirements than receiving the free gift of salvation already provided by His Blood on the cross false teschings require our own involvement to bypass or go beyond what the Bible requires see the Holy Spirit will ALWAYS point to Jesus Christ as the way the truth and the life. and when we trust in Him, leaning not unto our own understanding, He makes straight our paths without keeping our focus on Him -- His provision, His promises, His plan -- we leave ourselves wide open for the enemy to come in with myriad lies. the enemy's goal is to kill steal and destroy. if given free reign, the enemy will kill our joy in Christ, steal our peace in Christ, and destroy our faith in Christ thus we must take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, putting on the full armor -- and taking up our sword the Word of God to defeat the enemy, as Jesus did when tempted the enemy will always query "has God said?" and either deny or twist God's words. yet the Word of God will not return to Him void. the Lord is faithful to perform what He has said. so we look to Jesus the author finisher and perfecter of our faith ;-) can't go wrong thst way! love peace and joy rb |
Wingedlion User ID: 484472 United States 12/15/2010 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know God and He knows me, his name is Jesus. If you ask Him sincerely and pray hard to find the truth He will answer you personally. hurry though, not much time left Quoting: Mrs. SmithGod is God its that simple Hear O Israel, YHWH is your Elohim, YHWH is ONE! This I agree with! Calling Jesus/Yahoshua G_d is utter blasphemy! But denying it is in form with the spirit of Anti-Christ. You do not know the Lord God and He does not know you. "Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1196004 United States 12/15/2010 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To take a couple verses from the old testament to call Jesus a fraud is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. You have to ask yourself why a person who spread the word of love your brother is so threatening to people two thousand years later... I challange you to read the new testament and find another individual who could do what he has done. John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Tetraktys Top Hat User ID: 1183840 United States 12/15/2010 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know God and He knows me, his name is Jesus. If you ask Him sincerely and pray hard to find the truth He will answer you personally. hurry though, not much time left Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1170750God is God its that simple So what religion should replace christianity, OP? |
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Tetraktys Top Hat User ID: 1183840 United States 12/15/2010 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who opposes Jesus is an antichrist. Quoting: MrCoolWhipOP must be a Jew And he's welcome to his opinion. Question; why do Masonic lodges ONLY use King James bibles for their ceremonies? Answer; because it was established by Freemasons, of which, I am one. Doesn't that then also make us all freemasons, to some degree, if that was the founding of our religious faith and culture? Just asking. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1154807 Slovakia 12/15/2010 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who opposes Jesus is an antichrist. Quoting: TetraktysOP must be a Jew And he's welcome to his opinion. Question; why do Masonic lodges ONLY use King James bibles for their ceremonies? Answer; because it was established by Freemasons, of which, I am one. Doesn't that then also make us all freemasons, to some degree, if that was the founding of our religious faith and culture? Just asking. "You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. John 5:39 ... But I know what kind of people you are. You don't have any love for God. God is Spirit not some literature. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1196004 United States 12/15/2010 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who opposes Jesus is an antichrist. Quoting: TetraktysOP must be a Jew And he's welcome to his opinion. Question; why do Masonic lodges ONLY use King James bibles for their ceremonies? Answer; because it was established by Freemasons, of which, I am one. Doesn't that then also make us all freemasons, to some degree, if that was the founding of our religious faith and culture? Just asking. Christ was not a freemason... You failed to tell everyone that your god is lucifer |
twitter this User ID: 917033 United States 12/15/2010 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know God and He knows me, his name is Jesus. If you ask Him sincerely and pray hard to find the truth He will answer you personally. hurry though, not much time left Quoting: TetraktysGod is God its that simple So what religion should replace christianity, OP? To ask such an inane question show you get nothing I have said. It is all about consciousness. We each have our own. We develop and refine it to the degree that we become master creators and we transcend any and all limitation - including the need to believe anything - as our reality becomes unlimited. "Life. It's not for everyone." |
twitter this User ID: 917033 United States 12/15/2010 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I beseech you OP and others who have not put your life in the hand of The LORD to consider. Who have not accepted the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ to repent. He is the only way to salvation. According to scripture, there is no other way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052576To those who repent of their ways and receive his gift he truly gives power to be called children of God. To them he gives his gift. This gift was first given to men at Pentecost and is being given out to this day. His gift is (among other things) that oil which lights the lamp. u]He is the light of the world. Where is this light? This light is housed within earthen vessels (temples). And as long as he is in the world, He is the light of the world. And he is working the works of him who sent him while it is day. But the time is coming, and soon, when he will come as a thief... to take his light... and to take his bride... And when his Spirit is removed from the world, then comes darkness and gloominess and dark clouds. Then comes the night. For the light must be removed. It must be hid. There is no darkness in light, nor can there be for it is that light which restrains darkness. But when that light is removed, then will that which now restrains the man of sin be removed (from the earth). Then will that man of sin be fully revealed. He will be revealed to the world who rejected the son. Who came in the name of the Father. But the man of sin will come in his own name and men will receive him. The will gladly receive and accept the strong delusion which he brings. Then the fires of refinement will burn hot and be very fierce because the Father has given men much space to repent and accept his instrument of mercy and grace, who is his only begotten Son Jesus Christ, but they did not. So there will be time no longer. The Father will now wield his instrument of wrath, which is the man of sin and his army. And they will be fierce and show no mercy towards men - and their wrath will also be great because they know their time is short. Even still the Father who is very angry with men for rejecting his son will shorten this time (in his mercy). But in those days will there be for a witness those chosen and an elect who are sealed. Those of the 12 tribes. But also in that time will a great multitude of others glorify God. Through weeping and wailing and turning with all their heart and accepting and glorifying the true Messiah (Jesus Christ). They are the multitudes who come out of great tribulation, who wash thier robes, and make them white in the blood of the lamb. Dear friends, The bridegrooms return is so near, the day is far spent and the night time is coming very soon. But I fear that your (OP and others) testimonies here do not bear witness of the oil which is required to light the lamp. I beseech you, be found as a wise virgin at hhis coming. Be found with oil in your lamp at his appearing. When he comes to take his bride. When the the day of judgement upon the earth begins. Please accept the gift of the Father while it is still day. Accept his Son Jesus Christ who gave himself for all men, that through him, men might be saved. Jesus is the instrument by which God gives us mercy and forgiveness. He has another instrument, and he withholds it in his patience and mercy. But a time is soon coming when he will wield it, and it will not be merciful nor forgiving. In his Love, You should spend a whole lot less time beseeching. It makes you look foolish and arrogant. You are at a level of being/knowing/becoming, as we all are. The HUGE mistake you make at your level is to proclaim truth for everyone as if your perspective is THE perspective for all to follow. An analogy might be a three year old going up to a quantum physicist and telling him or her that their understanding of the universe is silly and stupid. You really embarrass yourself when you utter such nonsense. But you will not know it, much less accept it, until long after you pass and discover that you had your head so far up your butt that your delusion had become you. "Life. It's not for everyone." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1154807 Slovakia 12/15/2010 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know God and He knows me, his name is Jesus. If you ask Him sincerely and pray hard to find the truth He will answer you personally. hurry though, not much time left Quoting: twitter thisGod is God its that simple So what religion should replace christianity, OP? To ask such an inane question show you get nothing I have said. It is all about consciousness. We each have our own. We develop and refine it to the degree that we become master creators and we transcend any and all limitation - including the need to believe anything - as our reality becomes unlimited. You probably think too there is no BEING without consciousness, awareness of BEING. Don´t you see the flaw already? Consciousness and being are complemental but NOT the same. And awareness has no need to create. That just your self-awareness, egotism that longs for. Awareness, the Spirit was alredy there before you was born. God is Spirit - you are just a mortal man. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1196004 United States 12/15/2010 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know God and He knows me, his name is Jesus. If you ask Him sincerely and pray hard to find the truth He will answer you personally. hurry though, not much time left Quoting: twitter thisGod is God its that simple So what religion should replace christianity, OP? To ask such an inane question show you get nothing I have said. It is all about consciousness. We each have our own. We develop and refine it to the degree that we become master creators and we transcend any and all limitation - including the need to believe anything - as our reality becomes unlimited. The old Satan deception since the beginning that we are gods... You better believe there is a right and a wrong because your life in eternity depends on it Matthew 7 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit: but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. |
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