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Wrong. This time China siad go fuck the US. If we hurt China prospers. Holy shit get with it.


Care to explain how this works?

I left my "Trading Partners in a Global Economy For Dummies" book today...
 Quoting: Least Servant

My opinion....
China needs secure energy...and they want to expand their influence.

We trade with China to the extent that we are in bed with them...no doubt.

Nixon and Truedeau opened those doors and Kissinger did the same flying in from India.

Anyhow another view from Chinese/North American top looks at future labour markets and to be frank our labour market looks pale compared to the densely populated Far East.

I have worked at a few large projects and death of workers IS factored in the costs so u need to adjust your glasses when looking at future labour (cheap) markets as these guys use actuary tables and such to plan their conquests concerning human labour.

Furthermore...The West has a aging group of baby boomers who are going to be a huge liability to the Western governments as our present populations are anemic to say the least. All of these sick and aging boomers becoming a strain on local economies is right around the corner.

So on a personal level one needs to prepare...live in the country and become part of a somewhat isolated rural community in order to sustain myself and my family...no matter were your family is scattered.

Then..China(us and China) see a huge labour market in Indonesia, Veit Nam, Cambodia, etc and the Chinese military is/are probably still pissed at the japanese for WW two crap. So negotiate as they will China will push for things such as more control of the area to avenge things such as Nan sing.

The east has a longer memory then us I believe although I could be wrong. Not the first time for me.

So China wants us (the West) to back off a little as they make gains in Taiawan, Phillipenes, Indonesia, Cambodia, VN, etc....

This is the poker game we are playing.
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It is obvious that you do not know what communism even is,if you did you would know that in a communist economic system the people of a nation collectivly own their own means of production,and produce with those means of production the goods and services needed by the state,''remember that in a true communist system the people see themselves collectivly as being the state.'' Production in a communist system is not an activity which is undertaken for profit,but rather for the meeting of needs.
Walmart and the other private corporations which are engaged in production in China are not producing the things China needs just for the sake of the needs of the Chinese people,they are instead producing goods which are then sold in western capitalist markets at huge profits.Again privately owned corporations which produce goods and services for profit, are not part of any communist system !
i know what communism is and you once again have failed to prove that it is run by fascists , you spew out the same drivel/keywords every time you post , its always "fascist this fascist that" You sound like a thoroughly indoctrinated Marxist except for the fact that you don't realize that China is using foreign corporations to garner money for their war machine .The corporations are just "useful idiots" to the Chinese for the time being. Read Anotoliy Golitsin's "New Lies For Old" and "The Perestroika Deception" .. Communists are a lot smarter than people think and shouldn't be underestimated..
 Quoting: Trench

Again if it is a bird it is not also a plane !
And yes I talk about the global fascists and their global fascist system because I realize that there might be a few people who, ''unlike you'' might just wake up and realize what is happening to our world before it is to late,and the plans for the final solution,''POPULATION REDUCTION''are fully commenced ! And you know what;I am going to keep doing it whether you like or not !
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China is not even a communist nation as of now,if it were WAlMART, which is a privately owned would not be there making huge profits.What more proof do you need than the millions of American jobs that have been outsourced by international corporations to NON-Communist corporate owned China ?!
Dude , outsourcing to a communist country for cheaper labor and products does not mean that China is controlled by international corporations and that is not proof of what you assert.Maybe you can explain why the largest shipping company in the world is COSCO which is a commercial arm of the Red Army and why the last time i heard there was no internationally owned central banking system in China.


It is obvious that you do not know what communism even is,if you did you would know that in a communist economic system the people of a nation collectivly own their own means of production,and produce with those means of production the goods and services needed by the state,''remember that in a true communist system the people see themselves collectivly as being the state.'' Production in a communist system is not an activity which is undertaken for profit,but rather for the meeting of needs.
Walmart and the other private corporations which are engaged in production in China are not producing the things China needs just for the sake of the needs of the Chinese people,they are instead producing goods which are then sold in western capitalist markets at huge profits.Again privately owned corporations which produce goods and services for profit, are not part of any communist system !
 Quoting: jamesofthecommons



It's about time that someone knows what they're talking about around here. And not speaking garbage as others who learned politics from the TV. ''Yeah! Lets get those Commie bastards! Wolverines!" typical brainwashed shit like that. Most of the people who bad mouth Korea dont even know what Communism is. They do it because the secrete society that controls our contries has placed this idea into films and news/media through out the years and IMPLANTED an opinion into the sheeps heads. And these same people believe that the voting system is legitimate and that their votes count!
Your votes during any federal election have NEVER counted!
There is a real game going on behind the scenes. And if people dont start waking up to the facts, these elite fuckers are going to toss US into the ovens. Instead of all people uniting, we fight each other. How stupid.
No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

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China is not even a communist nation as of now,if it were WAlMART, which is a privately owned would not be there making huge profits.What more proof do you need than the millions of American jobs that have been outsourced by international corporations to NON-Communist corporate owned China ?!
Dude , outsourcing to a communist country for cheaper labor and products does not mean that China is controlled by international corporations and that is not proof of what you assert.Maybe you can explain why the largest shipping company in the world is COSCO which is a commercial arm of the Red Army and why the last time i heard there was no internationally owned central banking system in China.


It is obvious that you do not know what communism even is,if you did you would know that in a communist economic system the people of a nation collectivly own their own means of production,and produce with those means of production the goods and services needed by the state,''remember that in a true communist system the people see themselves collectivly as being the state.'' Production in a communist system is not an activity which is undertaken for profit,but rather for the meeting of needs.
Walmart and the other private corporations which are engaged in production in China are not producing the things China needs just for the sake of the needs of the Chinese people,they are instead producing goods which are then sold in western capitalist markets at huge profits.Again privately owned corporations which produce goods and services for profit, are not part of any communist system !



It's about time that someone knows what they're talking about around here. And not speaking garbage as others who learned politics from the TV. ''Yeah! Lets get those Commie bastards! Wolverines!" typical brainwashed shit like that. Most of the people who bad mouth Korea dont even know what Communism is. They do it because the secrete society that controls our contries has placed this idea into films and news/media through out the years and IMPLANTED an opinion into the sheeps heads. And these same people believe that the voting system is legitimate and that their votes count!
Your votes during any federal election have NEVER counted!
There is a real game going on behind the scenes. And if people dont start waking up to the facts, these elite fuckers are going to toss US into the ovens. Instead of all people uniting, we fight each other. How stupid.
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Other than a few million McMillionaires and some shinny Dubai style encampments, what have the Chinese really gained?

Much of their country is on the verge of having a serious water and food problem, not to mention the chronic abuse that Communist nations seem to let loose upon their means of production (read: sustainable resources/environment).

Other than collecting a bunch of IOU's I don't see that the Chinese have gained anything materially that can be sustained...?

What am I missing?
 Quoting: Least Servant
Nothing, all i am saying is that china is not run by international fascist corporations and are instead using those same corporations to their benefit in the building of their military.
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You sound like a thoroughly indoctrinated Marxist except for the fact that you don't realize that China is using foreign corporations to garner money for their war machine .The corporations are just "useful idiots" to the Chinese for the time being. Read Anotoliy Golitsin's "New Lies For Old" and "The Perestroika Deception" .. Communists are a lot smarter than people think and shouldn't be underestimated..


Other than a few million McMillionaires and some shinny Dubai style encampments, what have the Chinese really gained?

Much of their country is on the verge of having a serious water and food problem, not to mention the chronic abuse that Communist nations seem to let loose upon their means of production (read: sustainable resources/environment).

Other than collecting a bunch of IOU's I don't see that the Chinese have gained anything materially that can be sustained...?

What am I missing?
 Quoting: Least Servant


All the technology transfers and technical know-how.
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Again if it is a bird it is not also a plane !
And yes I talk about the global fascists and their global fascist system because I realize that there might be a few people who, ''unlike you'' might just wake up and realize what is happening to our world before it is to late,and the plans for the final solution,''POPULATION REDUCTION''are fully commenced ! And you know what;I am going to keep doing it whether you like or not !
 Quoting: jamesofthecommons



BINGO..... I wonder if any sheep have noticed the Georgia Guidestones?

It's funny how this discusting brainwashed neo-nazi system works with out the people even knowing it. There is a FOURTH REICH under the covers just waiting to unveal itself and toss us into the ovens. You all will see who is the real enemy very soon. And this enemy is on your own soil.
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We ALL bleed RED.

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I am honestly shocked that SK did nothing in response to the shelling and killing of its citizens.
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Anyhow another view from Chinese/North American top looks at future labour markets and to be frank our labour market looks pale compared to the densely populated Far East.

I have worked at a few large projects and death of workers IS factored in the costs so u need to adjust your glasses when looking at future labour (cheap) markets as these guys use actuary tables and such to plan their conquests concerning human labour.

Furthermore...The West has a aging group of baby boomers who are going to be a huge liability to the Western governments as our present populations are anemic to say the least. All of these sick and aging boomers becoming a strain on local economies is right around the corner.
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The very short period of time when there is sufficient capital available in the world to utilize the East Asian labor pool is almost OVER. In this light, the Far East is facing a labor surplus that is so much greater than their demand without global investment that what they really have is a labor (read: population) bubble that is only sustainable through continued growth along the Capitalist model, which can't happen because there are no more expanding market!

Regarding the aging population in the West, social engineering will probably take care of the need to care for the elderly to such a degree.

At least the most productive will be able to live in the West once it collapses, in the East it is a crap shoot so many people so little to go around in terms of the basics of survival.
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Other than a few million McMillionaires and some shinny Dubai style encampments, what have the Chinese really gained?

Much of their country is on the verge of having a serious water and food problem, not to mention the chronic abuse that Communist nations seem to let loose upon their means of production (read: sustainable resources/environment).

Other than collecting a bunch of IOU's I don't see that the Chinese have gained anything materially that can be sustained...?

What am I missing?
Nothing, all i am saying is that china is not run by international fascist corporations and are instead using those same corporations to their benefit in the building of their military.
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If they are using for profit corporations to do ''anything'' they are not communists !
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Wild cards are the individual players. The actual people in play.

The Japanese have the most to lose right now as do the South Koreans.

South Korea factories compete with Chinese.



Whose factories are cheaper to run?

These are all factors that people like Soros and Faber look at as well as military planners etc etc...
Look at what Russia would like to see.

Weaker USA would help Russia dominate its Southern neighbors just North of Afghanistan.

Its a slow chess game. Everybody wants access to those huge growing far east markets.

President Obama probably loses a lot of sleep over this slow game as every President does. Look at how they age as they read all theintel.

Golly gee.

I for one want to add to the Western GDP and standfast as we did in WW two.
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Nothing, all i am saying is that china is not run by international fascist corporations and are instead using those same corporations to their benefit in the building of their military.
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Well, from a tradjectory perspective... if I follow that line of reasoning, I would think that China thinks it's military and economic power are peaking at this moment... would increase the likelihood substantially of the Chinese instigating a conflict, but I am not sure I am with you on this.

I think the Chinese saw the shiney gold coins dangled on the string and lept fot it like everyone else.

Who else saw the hand-over of Hong Kong live? It looked like someone being sold the Brooklyn Bridge from where I was sitting...
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Anyhow another view from Chinese/North American top looks at future labour markets and to be frank our labour market looks pale compared to the densely populated Far East.

I have worked at a few large projects and death of workers IS factored in the costs so u need to adjust your glasses when looking at future labour (cheap) markets as these guys use actuary tables and such to plan their conquests concerning human labour.

Furthermore...The West has a aging group of baby boomers who are going to be a huge liability to the Western governments as our present populations are anemic to say the least. All of these sick and aging boomers becoming a strain on local economies is right around the corner.


The very short period of time when there is sufficient capital available in the world to utilize the East Asian labor pool is almost OVER. In this light, the Far East is facing a labor surplus that is so much greater than their demand without global investment that what they really have is a labor (read: population) bubble that is only sustainable through continued growth along the Capitalist model, which can't happen because there are no more expanding market!

Regarding the aging population in the West, social engineering will probably take care of the need to care for the elderly to such a degree.

At least the most productive will be able to live in the West once it collapses, in the East it is a crap shoot so many people so little to go around in terms of the basics of survival.
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Cheap labour and access to untapped energy reserves will be the play.

Nobody wants chaos...everybody wants more control.
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It's about time that someone knows what they're talking about around here. And not speaking garbage as others who learned politics from the TV. ''Yeah! Lets get those Commie bastards! Wolverines!" typical brainwashed shit like that. Most of the people who bad mouth Korea dont even know what Communism is. They do it because the secrete society that controls our contries has placed this idea into films and news/media through out the years and IMPLANTED an opinion into the sheeps heads. And these same people believe that the voting system is legitimate and that their votes count!
Your votes during any federal election have NEVER counted!
There is a real game going on behind the scenes. And if people dont start waking up to the facts, these elite fuckers are going to toss US into the ovens. Instead of all people uniting, we fight each other. How stupid.
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i guess you didnt see the books i mentioned eh? Written by someone who knows far more about communist doctrine than anybody on this board , See, i understand the whole global fascist population reduction plan and all that .And my money is on the chinese being unwittingly used as disposable shock troops but i think the Chinese have their own long term plans independent of TPTB.
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Other than a few million McMillionaires and some shinny Dubai style encampments, what have the Chinese really gained?

Much of their country is on the verge of having a serious water and food problem, not to mention the chronic abuse that Communist nations seem to let loose upon their means of production (read: sustainable resources/environment).

Other than collecting a bunch of IOU's I don't see that the Chinese have gained anything materially that can be sustained...?

What am I missing?
Nothing, all i am saying is that china is not run by international fascist corporations and are instead using those same corporations to their benefit in the building of their military.


If they are using for profit corporations to do ''anything'' they are not communists !
 Quoting: jamesofthecommons


Fascism = the merger of private corporate power with the power of government.The ultimate goal goal of the corporate elite is not monatary profit,more capitalism nor even more fascism,as fascism is merely a means ,a means to the end,that end being the private ownership of the globe !
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If they are using for profit corporations to do ''anything'' they are not communists !
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jesus christ man have you ever heard of "expedient resources"
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Caspar Willard "Cap" Weinberger warning concerning China, Korea and Mexico still stand.

He warned everybody concerning this slow bbq.
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Fascism = the merger of private corporate power with the power of government.The ultimate goal goal of the corporate elite is not monatary profit,more capitalism nor even more fascism,as fascism is merely a means ,a means to the end,that end being the private ownership of the globe !
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clappa 100% right. thats where our freedome is going if people dont understand the REAL truth and not believe the propaganda shoved down our throats. EVERYONE will see who the real enemy is.

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No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity.

'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains'

Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege

No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity

We ALL bleed RED.

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No one should testing weapon or practicing shooting weapons near a demilitarized zone.

Finally someone with some common sense.
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Thank You
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Cheap labour and access to untapped energy reserves will be the play.

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Cheap labor for what???

In a few years, no one is going to be needing or wanting cheap crap.

Everything is going to be local or expensive and high quality... this includes human service as well. :)

The age of shipping goods all the way around the world, using unnecessary resources, just because one person can live on $2 a day and another person has to live on $70 are coming to a close!


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If they are using for profit corporations to do ''anything'' they are not communists !
jesus christ man have you ever heard of "expedient resources"
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Expedient Resources ? Yes ;that is what people are considered to be, by the international corporate fascists ! That is exactly why so many people are unemployed in the western world today,''and why employees in the developing world are treated like shit.'' When the corporate elite no longer needs the services of a particular expediant resource,that person or group of persons then becomes a ''useless eater'' or eaters !

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As I read through these posts I get the feeling/impression that a lot of you WANT a war. Having been there and done that I can assure you, like most of the grunts hitting the rice fields for the first time, they, too, wanted to fire their "deadly weapons" and kill the "bad guy." All that vanished in literally a heart beat when they/you realize not only are they shooting back -- to kill -- but folks all around you, maybe even you, feel the hot lead tearing at your insides. Am I afraid of going to war again? Absolutely. Two tours of Viet Nam cured me of any desire to pick up another firearm. Would I do it in defense of myself, family, CLOSE friends or country if the stuff hits the fan? In another heartbeat. We all should be on our knees praying. Do I think peace will come? Not a chance.
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Cheap labour and access to untapped energy reserves will be the play.



Cheap labor for what???

In a few years, no one is going to be needing or wanting cheap crap.

Everything is going to be local or expensive and high quality... this includes human service as well. :)

The age of shipping goods all the way around the world, using unnecessary resources, just because one person can live on $2 a day and another person has to live on $70 are coming to a close!

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hope u are correct.
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As I read through these posts I get the feeling/impression that a lot of you WANT a war. Having been there and done that I can assure you, like most of the grunts hitting the rice fields for the first time, they, too, wanted to fire their "deadly weapons" and kill the "bad guy." All that vanished in literally a heart beat when they/you realize not only are they shooting back -- to kill -- but folks all around you, maybe even you, feel the hot lead tearing at your insides. Am I afraid of going to war again? Absolutely. Two tours of Viet Nam cured me of any desire to pick up another firearm. Would I do it in defense of myself, family, CLOSE friends or country if the stuff hits the fan? In another heartbeat. We all should be on our knees praying. Do I think peace will come? Not a chance.
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VERY well said... And VERY true!!!


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Cheap labour and access to untapped energy reserves will be the play.



Cheap labor for what???

In a few years, no one is going to be needing or wanting cheap crap.

Everything is going to be local or expensive and high quality... this includes human service as well. :)

The age of shipping goods all the way around the world, using unnecessary resources, just because one person can live on $2 a day and another person has to live on $70 are coming to a close!

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Corporate greed knows no bounds. IMO - this is what will occur in the next 30-40 years. The United States will be sent into economic oblivion as the US Dollar, the World Reserve, is destroyed in favor of a new currency. Maybe China's currency. Like the US during and after WWII, China will be a manufacturing superpower with all of the major corporations in their grasp, until the CEOs find it more profitable to shift jobs to more 'greener pastures' like...oh let's say...South America. China slowly evolves into a consumer nation based on debt like the US was. Brazil, Argentina Venezuala and Chile are the manufacturing heads in the new economic loop. See the pattern?
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As I read through these posts I get the feeling/impression that a lot of you WANT a war. Having been there and done that I can assure you, like most of the grunts hitting the rice fields for the first time, they, too, wanted to fire their "deadly weapons" and kill the "bad guy." All that vanished in literally a heart beat when they/you realize not only are they shooting back -- to kill -- but folks all around you, maybe even you, feel the hot lead tearing at your insides. Am I afraid of going to war again? Absolutely. Two tours of Viet Nam cured me of any desire to pick up another firearm. Would I do it in defense of myself, family, CLOSE friends or country if the stuff hits the fan? In another heartbeat. We all should be on our knees praying. Do I think peace will come? Not a chance.
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I do not want war, but I DO want a better reality for my children and grandchildren, and the only way that is going to happen is if we start over.. Hit the RESET button.. If it requires war to do that, then it is what it is.. This short term profit based reality we are forced to operate in has to go, and it is corrupted from the ground up, so it is time it returns back to the ground.

Like I said, I do NOT want war, but this corruption has to end, we have to start over.
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Re: Breaking News: North Korea fires several dozen shells, SK fighter jets scrambled.
Corporate greed knows no bounds. IMO - this is what will occur in the next 30-40 years. The United States will be sent into economic oblivion as the US Dollar, the World Reserve, is destroyed in favor of a new currency. Maybe China's currency. Like the US during and after WWII, China will be a manufacturing superpower with all of the major corporations in their grasp, until the CEOs find it more profitable to shift jobs to more 'greener pastures' like...oh let's say...South America. China slowly evolves into a consumer nation based on debt like the US was. Brazil, Argentina Venezuala and Chile are the manufacturing heads in the new economic loop. See the pattern?
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Nope.

The circle will soon be complete.


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Man, I hate to be right about this, but the Chinese have been transparent to me. I knew what their game would be years ago. They use their puppet states to draw out the west and make them spend assets there while staying out of things themselves until they think the west has become weak. Well I know what China has been thinking about genetic viruses, but I bet they do not know that the west has set up and how the west can kill their whole country and Russia if need be within 30 minutes no matter what they do. Are they stupid? I don't think so. Do they think there is some combination of luck or skill that will cause their assets to overcome the west? Perhaps. Will their country completely die if they miscalculate? Absolutely! And given that TPTB are assumed to want to kill several billion people, all of China dead would be a good start in TPTB plans.

I know it sounds horrifying and unthinkable, but it is a life mission for military minds and their scientists. You had better learn to believe it.

North Korea will be taken out AFTER China is neutralized. Iran will be taken out at the same time. Chavez will be given a chance to play ball in the new world or else. Perhaps you bought the stated reason Obama has been traveling the world lately? Well how convenient he has meetings with Chavez soon!

I wish the world was not this way. I wish we once again lived in a world of Hansel and Gretel and the Gingerbread Man. we do not live in that world today.
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Re: Breaking News: North Korea fires several dozen shells, SK fighter jets scrambled.
Corporate greed knows no bounds. IMO - this is what will occur in the next 30-40 years. The United States will be sent into economic oblivion as the US Dollar, the World Reserve, is destroyed in favor of a new currency. Maybe China's currency. Like the US during and after WWII, China will be a manufacturing superpower with all of the major corporations in their grasp, until the CEOs find it more profitable to shift jobs to more 'greener pastures' like...oh let's say...South America. China slowly evolves into a consumer nation based on debt like the US was. Brazil, Argentina Venezuala and Chile are the manufacturing heads in the new economic loop. See the pattern?


Nope.

The circle will soon be complete.


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I hope you are right. The vicious circle of Corporate crap needs to go the way of the Do-Do.
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