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US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea

 
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US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea
Shit... prepare for a draft.

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With an array of artillery trained on Seoul, North Korea could easily blast the glass towers of the South's booming capital for days and kill huge numbers of civilians before US and South Korean forces prevailed, experts said.

"Official Pentagon models assume it would take months to win the war at a cost approaching one million casualties or more, all told, including dead and wounded," Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, told AFP.

"And that's without nuclear weapons being used," said O'Hanlon, who wrote a book looking at the effects of a potential war.



Or China entering the war.... hiding
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Re: US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea
And that is if NKorea doesn't use nukes or chemical or biological weapons.
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And that is if NKorea doesn't use nukes or chemical or biological weapons.
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You got that right. There lack of predictability and paranoia make them very dangerous. I wouldn't want to second guess what those fools would or won't do.
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Re: US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea
And that is if NKorea doesn't use nukes or chemical or biological weapons.

You got that right. There lack of predictability and paranoia make them very dangerous. I wouldn't want to second guess what those fools would or won't do.
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They will do anything to keep their lies from be exposed to their people.

Don't forget NK is in a very precarious position. If their masses figure out they have been lied to for so long, starved for no reason, prisoned for no reason, then NK government has a very serious problem.

In my opinion, this is the one and only chance we have for a non-US engaged war.
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Re: US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea
A million total from both sides or just the South?
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The US military can't win a war against third worlders. There is no way we could win a war against north korea, they have allies. We already tried it remember. Damn, do they teach history in school anymore.
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Re: US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea
And that is if NKorea doesn't use nukes or chemical or biological weapons.

You got that right. There lack of predictability and paranoia make them very dangerous. I wouldn't want to second guess what those fools would or won't do.


They will do anything to keep their lies from be exposed to their people.

Don't forget NK is in a very precarious position. If their masses figure out they have been lied to for so long, starved for no reason, prisoned for no reason, then NK government has a very serious problem.

In my opinion, this is the one and only chance we have for a non-US engaged war.
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lol, the same thing you say about NK is the very thing i say about the usa..
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A million total from both sides or just the South?
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South.
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The US is in a precarious position also. We have been lied to, bankrupt, freedoms being stripped away. Just saying.
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this little tif won't take long at all---
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Shit... prepare for a draft.

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

With an array of artillery trained on Seoul, North Korea could easily blast the glass towers of the South's booming capital for days and kill huge numbers of civilians before US and South Korean forces prevailed, experts said.

"Official Pentagon models assume it would take months to win the war at a cost approaching one million casualties or more, all told, including dead and wounded," Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, told AFP.

"And that's without nuclear weapons being used," said O'Hanlon, who wrote a book looking at the effects of a potential war.



Or China entering the war.... hiding
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they need to change " Months " to years as they said the same thing about Iraq and we are still getting our asses kicked by cave dwellers.
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Re: US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea
The US military can't win a war against third worlders. There is no way we could win a war against north korea, they have allies. We already tried it remember. Damn, do they teach history in school anymore.
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nope
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South Koreans wait as Seoul sends more marines to island

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Re: US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea
There will be no war, china does not have time to be worrying about petty conflits right now and NK fighting would only fuck up their 5-10 year plan.
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Pin bitches!
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There will be no war, china does not have time to be worrying about petty conflits right now and NK fighting would only fuck up their 5-10 year plan.
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Exactly, China is not letting NK wage war. It totally fucks with their mojo.
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Let the games begin
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Re: US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea
The US military can't win a war against third worlders. There is no way we could win a war against north korea, they have allies. We already tried it remember. Damn, do they teach history in school anymore.
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The US kicked their ass all the way to the Yalu River. Until General MacArthur was fired by the then President Truman because he wanted to invade China next. Which is when we basically fell back to the original line (the 38th parallel).

It wasn't time then (in the eyes of TPTB) to take China.
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Re: US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea
The US military can't win a war against third worlders. There is no way we could win a war against north korea, they have allies. We already tried it remember. Damn, do they teach history in school anymore.


The US kicked their ass all the way to the Yalu River. Until General MacArthur was fired by the then President Truman because he wanted to invade China next. Which is when we basically fell back to the original line (the 38th parallel).

It wasn't time then (in the eyes of TPTB) to take China.
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LOL MacArthur got his ass kicked by the Chinese.

MacArthur defeated the North Koreans, not the chinese.

Then the Chinese came in and kicked the US ass till the 38th parallel.
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A million dead? On whose side will these casualties be? Both?
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Re: US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea
The US military can't win a war against third worlders. There is no way we could win a war against north korea, they have allies. We already tried it remember. Damn, do they teach history in school anymore.


The US kicked their ass all the way to the Yalu River. Until General MacArthur was fired by the then President Truman because he wanted to invade China next. Which is when we basically fell back to the original line (the 38th parallel).

It wasn't time then (in the eyes of TPTB) to take China.

LOL MacArthur got his ass kicked by the Chinese.

MacArthur defeated the North Koreans, not the chinese.

Then the Chinese came in and kicked the US ass till the 38th parallel.
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Towards the end, the N. Koreans were the chinese. When you're instructed you can't push any further in, there's only one option to go... and that's backwards.

It was because MacArthur got fired that the US was pushed back.

(Sorry if this is derailing the thread, I will stop now)
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Shit... prepare for a draft.

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

With an array of artillery trained on Seoul, North Korea could easily blast the glass towers of the South's booming capital for days and kill huge numbers of civilians before US and South Korean forces prevailed, experts said.

"Official Pentagon models assume it would take months to win the war at a cost approaching one million casualties or more, all told, including dead and wounded," Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, told AFP.

"And that's without nuclear weapons being used," said O'Hanlon, who wrote a book looking at the effects of a potential war.



Or China entering the war.... hiding
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lollololololololololololololololololol
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PIN?
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PIN?
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lol
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Shit... prepare for a draft.

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

With an array of artillery trained on Seoul, North Korea could easily blast the glass towers of the South's booming capital for days and kill huge numbers of civilians before US and South Korean forces prevailed, experts said.

"Official Pentagon models assume it would take months to win the war at a cost approaching one million casualties or more, all told, including dead and wounded," Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, told AFP.

"And that's without nuclear weapons being used," said O'Hanlon, who wrote a book looking at the effects of a potential war.



Or China entering the war.... hiding
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months?



Thats super retarded.
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months?



Thats super retarded.
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So I guess you know more about it then US generals uh?
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My father took 2 bullets to the neck during the Korean War and was in the hospital for six months recovering. He barely made it. He said it was Chinese troops that they were fighting in that battle. He was operating a quad 50 cal and said that it was like pissed off ants coming out of an ant hill. They would put out everything they had onto the field of fire and kill thousands and they would just keep coming. He is now 80 and really worried about this...he said fighting the Chinese would be a bad idea since they would just send millions of soldiers at us with no worry about causalties or losses.

The US military can't win a war against third worlders. There is no way we could win a war against north korea, they have allies. We already tried it remember. Damn, do they teach history in school anymore.


The US kicked their ass all the way to the Yalu River. Until General MacArthur was fired by the then President Truman because he wanted to invade China next. Which is when we basically fell back to the original line (the 38th parallel).

It wasn't time then (in the eyes of TPTB) to take China.

LOL MacArthur got his ass kicked by the Chinese.

MacArthur defeated the North Koreans, not the chinese.

Then the Chinese came in and kicked the US ass till the 38th parallel.
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The US military can't win a war against third worlders. There is no way we could win a war against north korea, they have allies. We already tried it remember. Damn, do they teach history in school anymore.


The US kicked their ass all the way to the Yalu River. Until General MacArthur was fired by the then President Truman because he wanted to invade China next. Which is when we basically fell back to the original line (the 38th parallel).

It wasn't time then (in the eyes of TPTB) to take China.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1151714



Exactly a lot don't know that part of the war, The Chinese when they came in pushed the US and SK to way south past Seoul. But with MacArthur's push and some good ole American resolve, pushed them back past the 38th and beyond. If it wasn't for his firing who knows where we would be right now. But he did kick both of their asses back up North. A Fact.


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On the outbreak of the Korean War in 1950, MacArthur was appointed commander of the United Nations forces. The surprise character of the attack enabled the North Koreans to occupy all the South, except for the area around the port of Pusan. On 15th September, 1950, MacArthur landed American and South Korean marines at Inchon, 200 miles behind the North Korean lines. The following day he launched a counterattack on the North Koreans. When they retreated, MacArthur's forces carried the war northwards, reaching the Yalu River, the frontier between Korea and China on 24th October, 1950.

Harry S. Truman and Dean Acheson, the Secretary of State, told MacArthur to limit the war to Korea. MacArthur disagreed, favoring an attack on Chinese forces. Unwilling to accept the views of Truman and Acheson, MacArthur began to make inflammatory statements indicating his disagreements with the United States government.

MacArthur gained support from right-wing members of the Senate such as Joe McCarthy who led the attack on Truman's administration: "With half a million Communists in Korea killing American men, Acheson says, 'Now let's be calm, let's do nothing'. It is like advising a man whose family is being killed not to take hasty action for fear he might alienate the affection of the murders."

In April 1951, Harry S. Truman removed MacArthur from his command of the United Nations forces in Korea. McCarthy now called for Truman to be impeached and suggested that the president was drunk when he made the decision to fire MacArthur: "Truman is surrounded by the Jessups, the Achesons, the old Hiss crowd. Most of the tragic things are done at 1.30 and 2 o'clock in the morning when they've had time to get the President cheerful."
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Shit... prepare for a draft.

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

With an array of artillery trained on Seoul, North Korea could easily blast the glass towers of the South's booming capital for days and kill huge numbers of civilians before US and South Korean forces prevailed, experts said.

"Official Pentagon models assume it would take months to win the war at a cost approaching one million casualties or more, all told, including dead and wounded," Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, told AFP.

"And that's without nuclear weapons being used," said O'Hanlon, who wrote a book looking at the effects of a potential war.



Or China entering the war.... hiding
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I really wish these fucking retard canadians posting this shit would cough up a shit wad and die. They don't have a fucking thing to say about what goes on in the US or how but run their mouths like they have a stake in what happens.Just shut the fuck up
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this little tif won't take long at all---
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Yep, in no time the N Koreans will be showering US troops with flowers, just like they did in Iraq.

Actually, I agree. It won't take long for China to call in the US debt and send them home.

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