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US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea

 
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Good, I am sick of the youngsters in this country, draft and burn, no discrimination with college opt outs this time, draft the colleges FIRST!
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Pffft... the US has nothing to worry about. We'll throw 10,000 casualties at it then pull out and watch the fun, and chuckle at the long term consequences as Europe's fuel prices rise 100%.
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months?



Thats super retarded.

So I guess you know more about it then US generals uh?
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Are you daft?

So how many dead have we now from the "war on terror" in Iraq? And how many years was that supposed to take..er,,uh... I mean months...?

The numbers and figures are fishy.
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Shit... prepare for a draft.

[link to www.spacedaily.com]

With an array of artillery trained on Seoul, North Korea could easily blast the glass towers of the South's booming capital for days and kill huge numbers of civilians before US and South Korean forces prevailed, experts said.

"Official Pentagon models assume it would take months to win the war at a cost approaching one million casualties or more, all told, including dead and wounded," Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, told AFP.

"And that's without nuclear weapons being used," said O'Hanlon, who wrote a book looking at the effects of a potential war.



Or China entering the war.... hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1174204

Thing here is that planners did not take into account the increased accuracy of our missiles, they will take out those facilities, and every artillery piece, they will get one or two shots ,max, south koreans have weapons too and will use them, they are valuable allies, not like iraqi or afghans
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and chuckle at the long term consequences as Europe's fuel prices rise 100%.
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And Asia's
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How come know one even mentions SK in all of this. Its like they dont exist but its their dam country not ours.
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Re: US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea
The Koreans and Chinese don't stand a chance, marching their primitive mechanized infantry against the army that controls the land, sea, sky, and space.

China mobilizes 500 tanks and 10,000 men, the US drops 1 0r 2 kinetic kill vehicles on the column from 280,000 miles in orbit.
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months?



Thats super retarded.

So I guess you know more about it then US generals uh?


Are you daft?

So how many dead have we now from the "war on terror" in Iraq? And how many years was that supposed to take..er,,uh... I mean months...?

The numbers and figures are fishy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1176668


Maybe you need to read.

1 million dead wouldn't be 1 million dead TROOPS. It would be like 100 000 troops, mostly South Koreans, and 900 000 civilians.

And you killed a million Iraqis while losing 5000 soldiers and about 40 000 wounded.

But you didn't fought a real army, you fought fucking Iraq army who disbanded after a week.

If China comes in, they don't fucking care about losses and will just rush your ass with 5 million soldiers if they want to.
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Re: US military planners : If war erupts, it'll take at least a few months and a million dead to defeat NKorea
My father took 2 bullets to the neck during the Korean War and was in the hospital for six months recovering. He barely made it. He said it was Chinese troops that they were fighting in that battle. He was operating a quad 50 cal and said that it was like pissed off ants coming out of an ant hill. They would put out everything they had onto the field of fire and kill thousands and they would just keep coming. He is now 80 and really worried about this...he said fighting the Chinese would be a bad idea since they would just send millions of soldiers at us with no worry about causalties or losses.




The US military can't win a war against third worlders. There is no way we could win a war against north korea, they have allies. We already tried it remember. Damn, do they teach history in school anymore.


The US kicked their ass all the way to the Yalu River. Until General MacArthur was fired by the then President Truman because he wanted to invade China next. Which is when we basically fell back to the original line (the 38th parallel).

It wasn't time then (in the eyes of TPTB) to take China.

LOL MacArthur got his ass kicked by the Chinese.

MacArthur defeated the North Koreans, not the chinese.

Then the Chinese came in and kicked the US ass till the 38th parallel.

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Kind of like this?

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China isnt an old tech country. they have airpower, a large navy , advanced missle programs , a space program and an army that is said to be 4 million strong but was boasted at 600 million in the 60's...and even though that sounds like too large a number of troops...its not. They have billions of people and with a draft could reach and pass those kind of numbers. Look, theres a reason why we kept spending money on the military at a cold war pace even after the USSR fell. That reason is china. We are deeply afraid of the sheer numbers they have in the case of war. If china does "throw millions of troops at Korea" there isnt a whole helluva lot we can do about that.
I still dont think anything big will happen ...china will make them play nice because it hurts china and her plans if they dont. it will pass.
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months?



Thats super retarded.

So I guess you know more about it then US generals uh?


Are you daft?

So how many dead have we now from the "war on terror" in Iraq? And how many years was that supposed to take..er,,uh... I mean months...?

The numbers and figures are fishy.


Maybe you need to read.

1 million dead wouldn't be 1 million dead TROOPS. It would be like 100 000 troops, mostly South Koreans, and 900 000 civilians.

And you killed a million Iraqis while losing 5000 soldiers and about 40 000 wounded.

But you didn't fought a real army, you fought fucking Iraq army who disbanded after a week.

If China comes in, they don't fucking care about losses and will just rush your ass with 5 million soldiers if they want to.
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Where did I say "troops"...hmm?
so if that army was not really all that and it disbanded after a week, anyway, as you put it...

oh...never mind..

Daft was an understatement.
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China isnt an old tech country. they have airpower, a large navy , advanced missle programs , a space program and an army that is said to be 4 million strong but was boasted at 600 million in the 60's...
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Yeah, they could muster a couple hundred million total ignorant conscripts to march towards South Korea. Half of them would die on the way, due to sickness and hunger,. Another 30% would die due to precision strikes with high explosives and kinetic weapons by the US, and when the remaining 20% arrived, they'd be demoralized, cut off from supplies, and bound for death.
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Where did I say "troops"...hmm?
so if that army was not really all that and it disbanded after a week, anyway, as you put it...

oh...never mind..

Daft was an understatement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1176668


You do know that they can level Seoul in less than a day right?

There's 22 million people in Seoul.


Just 20 minutes of firing by North Korea on Seoul would kill 500 000 people.

So please learn some facts before saying that 1 million dead is BS.
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Where did I say "troops"...hmm?
so if that army was not really all that and it disbanded after a week, anyway, as you put it...

oh...never mind..

Daft was an understatement.


You do know that they can level Seoul in less than a day right?

There's 22 million people in Seoul.


Just 20 minutes of firing by North Korea on Seoul would kill 500 000 people.

So please learn some facts before saying that 1 million dead is BS.
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Except, they wouldn't be able to fire for more than 5 minutes in a total war scenario. Their guns are already targeted from orbit.
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imo this war will last three years...... we lose in the firstyear.. but the war will drag on.
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If the US and N. Korea go at it again it will take all of the worlds to take them out because of China. China has just way too many people for the US to overcome alone.
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If the US and N. Korea go at it again it will take all of the worlds to take them out because of China. China has just way too many people for the US to overcome alone.
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That is supposed to say it will take all of the worlds armies to take out the Chinese.
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Probably pretty close to it. He never talked much about the war until recently. I guess there are some bad memories coming back.


My father took 2 bullets to the neck during the Korean War and was in the hospital for six months recovering. He barely made it. He said it was Chinese troops that they were fighting in that battle. He was operating a quad 50 cal and said that it was like pissed off ants coming out of an ant hill. They would put out everything they had onto the field of fire and kill thousands and they would just keep coming. He is now 80 and really worried about this...he said fighting the Chinese would be a bad idea since they would just send millions of soldiers at us with no worry about causalties or losses.




The US military can't win a war against third worlders. There is no way we could win a war against north korea, they have allies. We already tried it remember. Damn, do they teach history in school anymore.


The US kicked their ass all the way to the Yalu River. Until General MacArthur was fired by the then President Truman because he wanted to invade China next. Which is when we basically fell back to the original line (the 38th parallel).

It wasn't time then (in the eyes of TPTB) to take China.

LOL MacArthur got his ass kicked by the Chinese.

MacArthur defeated the North Koreans, not the chinese.

Then the Chinese came in and kicked the US ass till the 38th parallel.



Kind of like this?


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LMAO

The USA haters are praying that a renewed war would be just like the one that happened 60 years ago.

Much has happened since then. USA landed men on the moon, China continued eating dogs. North Korea...they feel lucky to eat dogs.
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And that is if NKorea doesn't use nukes or chemical or biological weapons.

You got that right. There lack of predictability and paranoia make them very dangerous. I wouldn't want to second guess what those fools would or won't do.
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months?



Thats super retarded.

So I guess you know more about it then US generals uh?


Are you daft?

So how many dead have we now from the "war on terror" in Iraq? And how many years was that supposed to take..er,,uh... I mean months...?

The numbers and figures are fishy.


Maybe you need to read.

1 million dead wouldn't be 1 million dead TROOPS. It would be like 100 000 troops, mostly South Koreans, and 900 000 civilians.

And you killed a million Iraqis while losing 5000 soldiers and about 40 000 wounded.

But you didn't fought a real army, you fought fucking Iraq army who disbanded after a week.

If China comes in, they don't fucking care about losses and will just rush your ass with 5 million soldiers if they want to.
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if they decide to do that march 5 million soilders at us then theres got to be weapons that can moe down 5 million troops with min.. threat to saftly.cant you place 50 cal weapons on remote control etc etc then 100 yards back do the same and 100 yards back from that do the same etc etc
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hiding
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if they decide to do that march 5 million soilders at us then theres got to be weapons that can moe down 5 million troops with min.. threat to saftly.cant you place 50 cal weapons on remote control etc etc then 100 yards back do the same and 100 yards back from that do the same etc etc
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You've not been paying attention.



It can cause pain, or it CAN cause something else... and the NK or Chinese (if they were so dumb) would cook in their shoes before they hit the ground dead.
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And the new and improved area denial system based on 30mm rounds....
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Wow, population reduction AND war profiteering -- the psychopaths are drooling
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Wow, population reduction AND war profiteering -- the psychopaths are drooling
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+1
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months?



Thats super retarded.

So I guess you know more about it then US generals uh?
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they will be greeted with flowers?
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when I was in 8 yeard ago a report was put out that in the first month alone we would lose some 50 thousand troops combined from all branches on the military. That's why were not so quick to pull the trigger.
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Good, I am sick of the youngsters in this country, draft and burn, no discrimination with college opt outs this time, draft the colleges FIRST!
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draft by income the richer you are the more you should be willing to put your ass on the line for the goodies you have.
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kill thousands and they would just keep coming
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It is no longer like that. They have a one-child policy. Parents only have one precious little boy to take care of them in old age. They will be mighty, mighty, pissed if the government kills off the one precious boy child for the Kimmies.

Things are different now....just one precious boy per family.

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