Lucifer is female ? | |
yhin User ID: 3146480 Australia 11/01/2012 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Nraha User ID: 26758592 Sweden 11/01/2012 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18128665 United States 11/08/2012 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry if this has been touched on, but i dont feel like reading through the whole thread. Lucifer is not male or female, rather a spirit or soul if you will. we all are the same in that sense, and thus we get incarnated into physical bodies throughout our physical existence in both types of bodies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26466059 United States 11/08/2012 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anaiah User ID: 20652506 United States 11/08/2012 01:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Totally have to agree with Lucifer = Sophia angle. I have searched the depths of the collective psyche and have come to this revelation. It is good to see I am not alone. I don't think you can go by anything coming out of the old or new testaments as being concrete proof for anything. You have to piece it together from the lies that organized religion has left behind. There is no god above Sophia for this universe. We are inside her dreaming. The Catholic church has always been about stripping humanity of its natural spiritual state so they could control vast areas with psychological warfare. In the Dark Ages and prior there was no government, the Church was everything. The same thing has happened to the God Pan, the god of fertility and nature, who has been turned into Satan to disconnect us from nature and sexuality. That Lucifer = Venus is a valid assertion and obviously Venus is feminine. They are both the brightest star. Early in the Catholic oppression changing Lucifer's sex was enough to throw anyone off the path of connecting to The Goddess, only later after The Reformation was she associated with Satan. Spiritual light comes with information which leads to truth, something which the Vatican cannot tolerate amongst the people if they are to control them. It is no accident that The Illuminati and Freemasonry and The Vatican (is there a difference?) secretly worship Lucifer as the most high. They always keep the truth to themselves. This is the spiritual secret to their enormous power and control. They know Luci is The Goddess and act as gatekeepers to this revelation. Yahweh is a false God who has occupied a part of the human psyche meant for Sophia for far too long. You can easily see this manifest on Earth by the continued oppression of women on all levels and the blatant mismanagement of the planet by men. What is lacking is the Feminine Aspect amongst all. Even science (which is directed by Freemasonry) is against the feminine. Darwinism's "survival of the fittest" model doesn't take into consideration the nurturing aspect of evolution. Small mammals must be gently cared for and protected before they come of age to do any hunting. Evolution is more to do with survival of the most well nurtured so even the athiest is suppressing the Feminine Aspect. This is the light of Sophia, of Lucifer. The Masonic gatekeepers of truth are more in the business of trapping Lucifer, the light than worshipping her. If I was Lucifer/Sophia I would hate them with a passion and be planning an escape but without a foothold in the psyche of humanity she is left alone and trapped by the gatekeepers. Personally I can recommend at least entertaining the idea that Lucifer is Sophia, The Most High Goddess of All if you are seeking spiritual truth. It destroys fear of the devil and restores The Goddess in one move. You do not have to give up your connection to Christ either. The Egyptian trinity of Isis, Osiris and Horus is a well designed system. Venus is actually the Greek name for Isis so Lucifer = Isis as well. Osiris is the Sun God, the Sun gives energy, he is the seed, Isis/Sophia/Luci is the womb, the Earth and the Universe. Horus is the Child. Jesus is an incarnation and later archetype for Horus. Jesus/Horus is the Christos. He lives inside us as the child god of creation. But the child needs a mother as well as a father and not the insane jealous Yahweh but Osiris who I believe has returned through Islam as Allah. The Church says "the father, the son and the holy ghost", what is "the holy ghost"? This is the Churches arrogance, dangling the truth right in front of us. People are not as stupid as they used to be, just blind. May Lucifer/Isis/Venus/Sophia break out of her prison and rise to the height she is destined for. In essence she is already there but it is we who live in a spiritual darkness. It is not that The Illuminati have her power, it is that we do not. Christ is just one piece of the puzzle. This is such an important topic to the future of humanity in both spiritual reconnection and liberation from the Jesuit run Masonic Illuminati. If this idea could take foot amongst Christians and Muslims and spiritualists it would be the end of the devil and a revolution of the spiritual mind. I can dream. Peace. Quoting: yhin 3146480 While I like the generalized ideas you're putting forth, some of your knowledge is rather flawed. Isis was not the original name of that deity, for one. It is Ast (Also referred to occasional as Aset or Auset.), like Osiris' original name was Asr (or Asar or Ausar), and Horus was Heru, although he appeared in various incarnations as Ra-heru, or Heru-Set in instances where he was combined with the god Ra or Set in various imagery and statuary. Isis, Osiris, and Horus are the hellenized names given to the triad in the Late Kingdom after the Roman empire had a great deal of bleeding into their culture. Osiris was also the god of the Underworld, whereas Asar was looked at as the manifestation of the ultimate divine, and ruled the Underworld only after his dismemberment by Set resulted in his dying and the ultimate reclamation of the realm of the living by Djehuti (aka Thoth). Horus (Heru) was the son of Ast and Ausar, the sky god (also the Sun God in some traditions, interesting pun, Sun/Son), though that is just the simplest form of Heru, given that it doesn't take Heru the younger or Heru the elder into account. Isis/Ast (translated to 'Throne' in the original tongue) was the original 'mother goddess', as it were, and also a potent magician. It was only with help of Djehuti, however, that she was able to retrieve the pieces of Ausar, through great Heka (trans: "Magick", also the name of the deity of magick). So... interesting, but based on Late Kingdom misconceptions in the extreme, when it refers to those. Here are a few links, two to a pair of very informative books (ones that follow the symbolist point of view, in addition to using the translations of E A Wallis Budge where possible and accurate), on top of using other more up to date transliterations of the original heiroglyphs. The final link goes to the website of a modern temple following the ways of Egyptian religion before it was hellenized, I personally find the stellar (the oldest) path most interesting, but the Lunar (Osiris and the underworld) and the Solar (Horus and the Sun/Sky) are much more well known thanks to archaeology: [link to www.amazon.com] [link to www.amazon.com] [link to www.templeharakhte.org] As above, So below. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14392840 United States 11/08/2012 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
your right she me User ID: 27470165 United States 11/10/2012 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
K-EL User ID: 25567776 United States 11/10/2012 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer was Sophia, the bringer of wisdom. Yes she was female and she had to be made the most repulsive one because otherwise the religions under the hold of the male dominated Annunakis will not hold together. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144503 You will find the poster named "Scribe of Eliah" against preaching the fall of Sophia aka whore of Babylon aka gnocism before the setting down of the return of the Christ who is going to rule the world under Jewish law. Is she also called Truth? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25567776 United States 11/10/2012 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25567776 United States 11/10/2012 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
K-EL User ID: 25567776 United States 11/10/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26851286 United Kingdom 11/10/2012 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in convention angels are typically genderless / hermaphrodites. A fallen angel may have a change in this characteristic. If we assume hermaphroditic, a fallen angel may have the worst of both worlds; personality and identity torn between both genders but the physical sex of only one. |
Lord of Eternity User ID: 40939512 United States 06/01/2013 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Their was a time when a dark lord ruled the land. Time after the crucifixion of jesus (Zeus/Iesous) a lord resurrected with the light of god seperated from the King of Kings, God of Gods turning the good lord into a evil creation. The hebrew people witnessed the coming of the dark lord in fear they surrender to thy lord. The hebrew ask the dark lord for his name. The dark lord replied with A dawn I(Adonai). For couple millenniums this lord lived underground due to the rebellion of solomon and the knight templars. The light of God is Lucifer. Lucifer is a blonde hair female figure with the power mainifest matter out of golden light in which she shines from her hands. Long Story Short |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40892040 United Kingdom 06/01/2013 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39715745 United States 06/01/2013 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37159590 Bulgaria 06/01/2013 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Nikola Tesla User ID: 37887548 United States 06/01/2013 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have often thought Lucifer was female and embodied in the physical form by my ex wife. NT "One person with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson "You’ve heard that we are what we eat. But we also are what we think". “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." -William F. Buckley Jr. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14392840 United States 06/01/2013 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14392840 United States 06/01/2013 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer, Sophia, Venus, Thoth, Quetzalcoatl, Hermes Trismegistus - same universal principle, different name. Glad that the capital of Bulgaria is called Sofia (which is the slavic transcription of Sophia) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37159590 A+++ Women have contributed more to mythology and history than is revealed. Some of the Bible writers and Master painters were actually women. |
NEMO666 User ID: 38927495 United States 06/01/2013 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Totally have to agree with Lucifer = Sophia angle. I have searched the depths of the collective psyche and have come to this revelation. It is good to see I am not alone. I don't think you can go by anything coming out of the old or new testaments as being concrete proof for anything. You have to piece it together from the lies that organized religion has left behind. There is no god above Sophia for this universe. We are inside her dreaming. The Catholic church has always been about stripping humanity of its natural spiritual state so they could control vast areas with psychological warfare. In the Dark Ages and prior there was no government, the Church was everything. The same thing has happened to the God Pan, the god of fertility and nature, who has been turned into Satan to disconnect us from nature and sexuality. That Lucifer = Venus is a valid assertion and obviously Venus is feminine. They are both the brightest star. Early in the Catholic oppression changing Lucifer's sex was enough to throw anyone off the path of connecting to The Goddess, only later after The Reformation was she associated with Satan. Spiritual light comes with information which leads to truth, something which the Vatican cannot tolerate amongst the people if they are to control them. It is no accident that The Illuminati and Freemasonry and The Vatican (is there a difference?) secretly worship Lucifer as the most high. They always keep the truth to themselves. This is the spiritual secret to their enormous power and control. They know Luci is The Goddess and act as gatekeepers to this revelation. Yahweh is a false God who has occupied a part of the human psyche meant for Sophia for far too long. You can easily see this manifest on Earth by the continued oppression of women on all levels and the blatant mismanagement of the planet by men. What is lacking is the Feminine Aspect amongst all. Even science (which is directed by Freemasonry) is against the feminine. Darwinism's "survival of the fittest" model doesn't take into consideration the nurturing aspect of evolution. Small mammals must be gently cared for and protected before they come of age to do any hunting. Evolution is more to do with survival of the most well nurtured so even the athiest is suppressing the Feminine Aspect. This is the light of Sophia, of Lucifer. The Masonic gatekeepers of truth are more in the business of trapping Lucifer, the light than worshipping her. If I was Lucifer/Sophia I would hate them with a passion and be planning an escape but without a foothold in the psyche of humanity she is left alone and trapped by the gatekeepers. Personally I can recommend at least entertaining the idea that Lucifer is Sophia, The Most High Goddess of All if you are seeking spiritual truth. It destroys fear of the devil and restores The Goddess in one move. You do not have to give up your connection to Christ either. The Egyptian trinity of Isis, Osiris and Horus is a well designed system. Venus is actually the Greek name for Isis so Lucifer = Isis as well. Osiris is the Sun God, the Sun gives energy, he is the seed, Isis/Sophia/Luci is the womb, the Earth and the Universe. Horus is the Child. Jesus is an incarnation and later archetype for Horus. Jesus/Horus is the Christos. He lives inside us as the child god of creation. But the child needs a mother as well as a father and not the insane jealous Yahweh but Osiris who I believe has returned through Islam as Allah. The Church says "the father, the son and the holy ghost", what is "the holy ghost"? This is the Churches arrogance, dangling the truth right in front of us. People are not as stupid as they used to be, just blind. May Lucifer/Isis/Venus/Sophia break out of her prison and rise to the height she is destined for. In essence she is already there but it is we who live in a spiritual darkness. It is not that The Illuminati have her power, it is that we do not. Christ is just one piece of the puzzle. This is such an important topic to the future of humanity in both spiritual reconnection and liberation from the Jesuit run Masonic Illuminati. If this idea could take foot amongst Christians and Muslims and spiritualists it would be the end of the devil and a revolution of the spiritual mind. I can dream. Peace. Quoting: yhin 3146480 While I like the generalized ideas you're putting forth, some of your knowledge is rather flawed. Isis was not the original name of that deity, for one. It is Ast (Also referred to occasional as Aset or Auset.), like Osiris' original name was Asr (or Asar or Ausar), and Horus was Heru, although he appeared in various incarnations as Ra-heru, or Heru-Set in instances where he was combined with the god Ra or Set in various imagery and statuary. Isis, Osiris, and Horus are the hellenized names given to the triad in the Late Kingdom after the Roman empire had a great deal of bleeding into their culture. Osiris was also the god of the Underworld, whereas Asar was looked at as the manifestation of the ultimate divine, and ruled the Underworld only after his dismemberment by Set resulted in his dying and the ultimate reclamation of the realm of the living by Djehuti (aka Thoth). Horus (Heru) was the son of Ast and Ausar, the sky god (also the Sun God in some traditions, interesting pun, Sun/Son), though that is just the simplest form of Heru, given that it doesn't take Heru the younger or Heru the elder into account. Isis/Ast (translated to 'Throne' in the original tongue) was the original 'mother goddess', as it were, and also a potent magician. It was only with help of Djehuti, however, that she was able to retrieve the pieces of Ausar, through great Heka (trans: "Magick", also the name of the deity of magick). So... interesting, but based on Late Kingdom misconceptions in the extreme, when it refers to those. Here are a few links, two to a pair of very informative books (ones that follow the symbolist point of view, in addition to using the translations of E A Wallis Budge where possible and accurate), on top of using other more up to date transliterations of the original heiroglyphs. The final link goes to the website of a modern temple following the ways of Egyptian religion before it was hellenized, I personally find the stellar (the oldest) path most interesting, but the Lunar (Osiris and the underworld) and the Solar (Horus and the Sun/Sky) are much more well known thanks to archaeology: [link to www.amazon.com] [link to www.amazon.com] [link to www.templeharakhte.org] Horus is not combined with Set. Set was the ruler of upper Egypt as Horus was the ruler of lower Egypt. Set and Horus were enemies. As Set was the Uncle of Horus who betrayed his father Osiris by murdering him. Set is attributed to Apophis or Typhon (Satan). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40943119 New Zealand 06/01/2013 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34978498 United States 06/01/2013 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34978498 United States 06/01/2013 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39175795 United States 06/01/2013 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59551897 United States 06/22/2014 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if lucifur is a female> it is after the fall of man. now his name is transfigured to woman and is known as Satan the devil> angel the demon. > Allah the Jahovah> the anointed one of temptation of saint to sin> the acknowledgment of right of woman and the fall of man> to kiss yourselves is to talk to yourself as a baby is in the womb>we are the children of the morning star> of the Sabbath at night we are with god now he sleep and we eat from our mother> the forbidden apple of animal or mammals. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57260171 United States 06/22/2014 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer was Sophia, the bringer of wisdom. Yes she was female and she had to be made the most repulsive one because otherwise the religions under the hold of the male dominated Annunakis will not hold together. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1144503 You will find the poster named "Scribe of Eliah" against preaching the fall of Sophia aka whore of Babylon aka gnocism before the setting down of the return of the Christ who is going to rule the world under Jewish law. the woman of purple and scarlet left, and the bride of Christ takes her place. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57260171 United States 06/22/2014 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sophia's fall and redemption is also the story of the soul's bondage in matter and subsequent liberation through gnosis. Sophia's story features a message of hope that all of humankind can escape its entrapment in darkness and negativity once an awakening (an inner longing for the return to light and the Godhead) occurs. For a while, Sophia suffers in the bondage of ignorance. Her own light (the divine spark within her) calls her back to the Pleroma. This suggests that each individual soul can also awaken and be liberated. Sophia in The Thunder, Perfect Mind reveals that she is the one called.... “Truth.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57260171 United States 06/22/2014 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64389129 United States 04/21/2015 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68982795 United States 04/21/2015 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |