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Neuronics: The future of humanity (Humanity without physicality)

 
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In the alternate Earth where I am from, we use something called neuronics.

Neuronics is a way to influence neurons and other cells in the human body to change what you experience.

Any cell in a biological body can become a neuron, and any cell in the body can thus be influenced using neuronics.

It is like your electronics here, where devices are 'powered by neuronics'.

Read more at [link to ecsys.org]

In the electric field surrounding each cell there is 15 million volts of energy per meter, approximately 500% more than a bolt of lightning. (See [link to www.technologyreview.com] )

You use electronic devices to influence electrons in particular ways, and so we have devices that influence neurons.

You have televisions, alarm clocks, robots, computers, and other devices. We have an array of similar devices that we use to change our reality.

Most of you would call such technology teleportation, materialization/dematerialization, time-shifting and time travel, etc. We're not changing anything physically by using these devices, just changing perception.

(There is no physicality.)

Many of us in my world live non-physically. That is to say, we are not bound by physical constraints.

In this world, you're moving quickly towards this point.

Neuronics is one way to live as a human, but not live in a human body. (Strangely enough, your body is not human. It's more than 90% microbes.)

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[link to www.ecsys.org]
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Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
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In the alternate Earth where I am from, we use something called neuronics.

Neuronics is a way to influence neurons and other cells in the human body to change what you experience.
 Quoting: Chaol


In the actual Earth where you and I are from, we use something called psilocybe cubensis.

Psilocybe cubensis is a way to influence neurons and other cells in the human body to change what you experience.
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OP, it is a coincidence that I have just spent about three hours today reading the ecsys site and the thread from 2009.

How does synchronicity fit into your system? Ha.
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Will you be updating the DNA section of the website soon?

Perhaps this article about the electricity in cells is a lead-up to discussing DNA?
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In the actual Earth where you and I are from, we use something called psilocybe cubensis.

Psilocybe cubensis is a way to influence neurons and other cells in the human body to change what you experience.
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Sounds interesting, but neuronics is entirely within your mind.

If you use a physical means to influence something that is inherently non-physical the experience will be entirely different.

You will, in effect, not experience the non-physical but the properties of "psilocybe cubensis" itself. Your experience is a property of what you are using to experience it.

You are not, therefore, influencing your neurons. Your neurons are becoming psilocybe cubensis. If you are comfortable with this then by all means...

Yes, we are all from Earth ;)
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OP, it is a coincidence that I have just spent about three hours today reading the ecsys site and the thread from 2009.

How does synchronicity fit into your system? Ha.
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Hi.

Perhaps more of a coincidence would be if you had a dream about it, because both threads are on this site ;)

You will dream of it tonight and when you wake up it will make more sense.

But that won't be coincidence, either. It'll just be my putting the suggestion into your thought patterns :)

Synchronicity is an expression of what we call the Law of 5/2. To paraphrase, we perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive. This appearance of synchronicity is entirely within our perception as a way to "conserve energy", so to speak.
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Will you be updating the DNA section of the website soon?

Perhaps this article about the electricity in cells is a lead-up to discussing DNA?
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Anything that has an electric field is intelligent, and DNA is indeed intelligent.

Intelligent beings communicate in their own language, I suppose. Some of us are like poetry.

How DNA follows the Ecsys model isn't too hard to figure out with some work, but making it obvious isn't really something that should be done right now.

Doubt alone about the value of the material keeps certain people from trying to figure it out. I don't want to give anyone an "aha" moment with regards to DNA at this time, so I left it our for now.

Let's just say there is some correlation. But it isn't useful at this time and is, thus, meaningless.
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In the electric field surrounding each cell there is 15 million volts of energy per meter, approximately 500% more than a bolt of lightning. (See [link to www.technologyreview.com] )
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For what it's worth, I once meditated on the question, "What am I?" Almost immediately, I had a vision of a lightning bolt hitting a glass mason jar full of mud, in which the lightning arced and sparked throughout the mud.

I've understood since then that "we", basically, are made of electricity. This is not a very scientific explanation, but it was information that I took seriously. It was one of those "download" situations where the image explained everything.

A symbol!
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Neuronics is one way to live as a human, but not live in a human body. (Strangely enough, your body is not human. It's more than 90% microbes.)
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Which 10% of these bodies are human?
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If I continue to study ecsys, and then gain an understanding of the language and the icons to the point where I am using those items in my thoughts, will that put me in your world?
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Perhaps more of a coincidence would be if you had a dream about it, because both threads are on this site ;)

You will dream of it tonight and when you wake up it will make more sense.
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In your system, what are dreams, anyway? Why does there seem to be such a disconnect between dreams and waking reality?

If I dream of living on a tropical island, I still wake up in my home in the middle of a big city. Shouldn't I wake up on a tropical island?
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In the electric field surrounding each cell there is 15 million volts of energy per meter, approximately 500% more than a bolt of lightning. (See [link to www.technologyreview.com] )


For what it's worth, I once meditated on the question, "What am I?" Almost immediately, I had a vision of a lightning bolt hitting a glass mason jar full of mud, in which the lightning arced and sparked throughout the mud.

I've understood since then that "we", basically, are made of electricity. This is not a very scientific explanation, but it was information that I took seriously. It was one of those "download" situations where the image explained everything.

A symbol!
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Interesting metaphors.

Do you think the glass jar, mud, and lightning bolt represented something in particular?
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Intent. If there are four forces and I use the genius method to change my reality, where does intent come from? How does intent fit into changing a reality? What does it do?
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In the electric field surrounding each cell there is 15 million volts of energy per meter, approximately 500% more than a bolt of lightning. (See [link to www.technologyreview.com] )


For what it's worth, I once meditated on the question, "What am I?" Almost immediately, I had a vision of a lightning bolt hitting a glass mason jar full of mud, in which the lightning arced and sparked throughout the mud.

I've understood since then that "we", basically, are made of electricity. This is not a very scientific explanation, but it was information that I took seriously. It was one of those "download" situations where the image explained everything.

A symbol!


Interesting metaphors.

Do you think the glass jar, mud, and lightning bolt represented something in particular?
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This is how I interpreted it:

Glass jar = this plane of experience. A container.
Mud = the biological body and the body of Earth.
Lightning bolt = me. Intelligence.

My only question about the vision was: where did the lightning come from? Guess I should meditate on that question.
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Which 10% of these bodies are human?
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The old, legacy parts.

See here: [link to www.scientificamerican.com]

Many of these parts came from outside Earth, as people are beginning to understand.

There are actually several "humans genomes", not just one. (The intestines have their own genome, for example.)

Humans are becoming something else entirely.

i.e., what would be called non-human.
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Which 10% of these bodies are human?
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Also...

we used to be about 60% human.

We've been becoming less human for hundreds of thousands of years.

Now much less than 10%.

In the next 30 years or so, humans will no longer exist in their current form.

We will be non-physical beings.

More like a dream.

This is the 'great shift' that many have predicted and have read about.
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If I continue to study ecsys, and then gain an understanding of the language and the icons to the point where I am using those items in my thoughts, will that put me in your world?
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With an understanding of it, you can be in just about any world you can imagine.

When you are able to "consciously" change your perception you can do just that.

When you do that you will bring your body with you, so to speak.
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Intent. If there are four forces and I use the genius method to change my reality, where does intent come from? How does intent fit into changing a reality? What does it do?
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Your intent is illustrated in all 4 forces. It becomes your interpretation of the 4 forces into your reality.

Your intent would be in:

the symbols you pick
the way you allow your symbols to interact
the potential energy you use
the rules you set up

In effect, your new reality becomes a property of these things you have chosen.

Just like your current reality is an aggregate property of the symbols around you.
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In your system, what are dreams, anyway? Why does there seem to be such a disconnect between dreams and waking reality?

If I dream of living on a tropical island, I still wake up in my home in the middle of a big city. Shouldn't I wake up on a tropical island?
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But you are waking up on a tropical island.

You just don't realize it.

What you probably want to do is experience it with your waking mind.

It's possible to get to a point where you choose the kind of things you want to experience and/or to have control over your experiences.

The disconnect is in the symbols you are using.

That's it. It's the only thing. The symbols are the starting point to everything else.

Learn new symbols and you will have different experiences.

Learn the symbols of perception and you will be able to interface directly with your perception (a.k.a. changing your reality as you wish).

Use the Genius more and you will learn how to change your reality faster and faster when you learn how to create symbols on-the-fly (and interact with those symbols, etc).

By the way, dreams are just a different "flavor" of your perception.

The different flavors are the effect of using the different symbols.
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"In the alternate Earth where I am from"

and again..

"There is no physicality"
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ok time traveler, warp speeder, distance flyer or whatever you really are,ive got a question for you.

if this is true [which i strongly dispute]then why got to the trouble of entering humanity neuronicly to come and give us a posting such as this, couldnt you have lead it into something worthy of your trouble like free energy, cure for cancer, levitation or something really useful to our inept secular society?

or are you just like the rest of these so called beings from the other side of spiritual Hierarchy and bring us nothing but old idealism and value that we already know existed within our lives just like neuronics within the human body.

perhaps you could show us the ways and means of how to become a pure energy source free from any harbouring and hindering vesels we call our bodys with out being dead?

show me some proof you exist, big boy, come down the teleportation cable we call a phone line and we can discuss this firther in my living room and ill even put the kettle on for ya lol
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This is how I interpreted it:

Glass jar = this plane of experience. A container.
Mud = the biological body and the body of Earth.
Lightning bolt = me. Intelligence.

My only question about the vision was: where did the lightning come from? Guess I should meditate on that question.
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Could the lightning be what happens when you combine the glass jar with the mud?
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In the alternate Earth where I am from,
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enough said jerkit

love the sociopaths on this site though
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perhaps you could show us the ways and means of how to become a pure energy source free from any harbouring and hindering vesels we call our bodys with out being dead?

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Imagine that it is already what is being done here.

Would it be in a way that we expect?

If it is in a way that we expect, why wasn't it thought of before?

If it is not in a way that we expect, then I suppose we'd be having this very conversation.

show me some proof you exist, big boy, come down the teleportation cable we call a phone line and we can discuss this firther in my living room and ill even put the kettle on for ya lol
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Such things would prompt the focus on the person rather than the message.

I'd rather you doubt the person (me) and instead determine if the material is of any use to you and how you can use it.

That's why I'm posting on this forum ;)

Moreover, I'd rather show you how to do these things. Wouldn't that be the best proof?

There would be no doubt as to its usefulness if you made use of it yourself.

And, so here we are.
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The disconnect is in the symbols you are using.

That's it. It's the only thing. The symbols are the starting point to everything else.

Learn new symbols and you will have different experiences.

Learn the symbols of perception and you will be able to interface directly with your perception (a.k.a. changing your reality as you wish).
 Quoting: Chaol


I think I need to learn more about symbols.

For example, just this morning, I wanted a reality that was peaceful, serene and comfortable. I used my bed as a symbol. Outside, it was cold and rainy, and I was very comfy inside. I printed out some materials from the ecsys website and was handling the papers and reading them, while peacefully cozy in my bed. All the elements were there.

However, later in the day, I got into an argument with my husband. I thought of my symbol for peace, my bed, and ran into my bedroom and shut the door! I'm thinking that this was not a very good symbol to use to represent peace. I can't be jumping into my bed every time I'm presented with a situation in which I prefer to create peace!

I feel that I understand the process, but can you expound a bit more on symbols? Particularly, symbols that would represent a state of being, rather than creating a car or a European vacation or something material like that.
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Also...

we used to be about 60% human.

We've been becoming less human for hundreds of thousands of years.

Now much less than 10%.

In the next 30 years or so, humans will no longer exist in their current form.

We will be non-physical beings.

More like a dream.

This is the 'great shift' that many have predicted and have read about.
 Quoting: Chaol


Following up...

For example, it has been predicted that the coastal areas would be most affected by this shift.

Why is that? Does that mean a meteor from space or something?

No, it just means that the coastal areas are usually the most populated and areas.

These areas have more environmental changes than other areas.

This means that the rate of change will be faster in these areas than, say, the highlands of Kenya.

For example... the food you eat in the big cities is laced with additives such as chemicals and bacterial life forms.

These non-human compounds interact with your body, changing your body and making your body less human and more like the things you consume, breathe, think, etc.

We are, in effect, indirectly accelerating the rate of biological change by using technology.

Unfortunately, people are more concerned with recycling than with the effects of first-use.

(i.e., is it more important to recycle a can of coke or not drink it in the first place?)

This leaves us caring more about the environment than we do about ourselves and one-another.

Funny thing is, the Earth will be here long, long after we are gone. It repairs itself.

There's nothing wrong with this process, however. It's natural. We will become non-physical beings regardless.
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In the alternate Earth where I am from,


enough said jerkit

love the sociopaths on this site though
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Enough said or enough read? ;)

You've actually read it, so what does that mean?

Consider it light entertainment, and you'll be fine. No infections need occur.

When we focus more on the message than where it comes from then there is understanding.

The source can rarely be pinpointed. The message is much more obvious.
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Such things would prompt the focus on the person rather than the message.

I'd rather you doubt the person (me) and instead determine if the material is of any use to you and how you can use it.

That's why I'm posting on this forum ;)

Moreover, I'd rather show you how to do these things. Wouldn't that be the best proof?

There would be no doubt as to its usefulness if you made use of it yourself.

And, so here we are.
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very well handled, and you have my attention, but having said all of this...

our brains cannot deal or do anything about the inforamtion you are posting, our human genome would have to change drasticly for this to take effect and could not take place in a measly 30 years or do like you suggested.

also

to live a waking dream and become a bodyless entity we would have assume that we would all become as one within the plant and all living things, united as one with one power source namely earth, how could this be? and our dna structure would also have to become part of this unit for its cohesion and is far beyond the limit of anything living on eath at present
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I think I need to learn more about symbols.

For example, just this morning, I wanted a reality that was peaceful, serene and comfortable. I used my bed as a symbol. Outside, it was cold and rainy, and I was very comfy inside. I printed out some materials from the ecsys website and was handling the papers and reading them, while peacefully cozy in my bed. All the elements were there.

However, later in the day, I got into an argument with my husband. I thought of my symbol for peace, my bed, and ran into my bedroom and shut the door! I'm thinking that this was not a very good symbol to use to represent peace. I can't be jumping into my bed every time I'm presented with a situation in which I prefer to create peace!

I feel that I understand the process, but can you expound a bit more on symbols? Particularly, symbols that would represent a state of being, rather than creating a car or a European vacation or something material like that.
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"1-Create symbol: Represent your desired thought, object, or experience physically."

You first must create a new symbol or use something that you've never before used.

(Create it physically or use something new.)

If you use your bed it already has its own meanings attached to it. The interactions would then be different because the symbol is different from what you want. (Meaning, you probably don't know what it symbolizes.) So therefore your experience will be different.

The best symbols are those which you create yourself because you are putting your intent behind the symbol, so to speak.
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The best symbols are those which you create yourself because you are putting your intent behind the symbol, so to speak.
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Cool! Got it! Thanks!

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