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Neuronics: The future of humanity (Humanity without physicality)

 
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Using the sounds from the this graph: ec-language-chart.jpg, can you give us a string of sounds from the neuroiconics and let us try to figure out the word or concept?

Really trying to grasp the language.

Thanks.
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Hi.

This is something to think about. As I mentioned in the other thread we will work on a widget or Flash app that can guide you through each letter and pronunciation.

However...

Ec works differently than other natural languages because of how it can be used. It is a very personal language because it has to do with perception.

If I point to a glass and say "de sticlă" then you can map one concept in your mind ("glass") to a new concept in Romanian ("de sticlă").

However, in Ec, you are talking about possibilities for the glass. You can talk about a glass in general or a very specific glass (like the short, transparent glass half-filled with orange juice sitting on the left side of the kitchen counter at 4pm on Sunday the 5th of January).

The level of depth is up to you.

But the deeper you go, the less others would understand your own "word" in Ec because they cannot see exactly what you are perceiving.

Using Ec for the first time is just like using a new computer for the first time. You have the basics but nothing else. You can use it but it becomes much more useful when you personalize it.

Meaning, you can translate the word 'glass' into Ec but it is really only useful when you translate 'glass' into your own definition of it in Ec (i.e., your own perspective)

Try this, to begin:

Pick a couple of Ec numbers/values to learn

0 - mu
1 - unu
2 - dua
3 - sun
4 - tatat
5 - wu
6 - sumi
7 - naru
8 - bu
9 - ta
(continuous) - kata
(changing) - booba

from this list, pick out 2-3 numbers and remember them.

Map your brain

When you see three things together, say "sun", for example.

For added bonus, think of the symbol for it.

What you are doing here is re-mapping your brain. I believe that this is where the difficulty is in understanding how Ec works. It is difficult to see how this mapping occurs, but it is how the brain works.

How does it work?
When we map one concept to another and use it then it will become more obvious how Ec can be used.

(Using it is the important part)

Quite difficult to explain, but by using Ec you are thinking in the language of perception.

Eventually, you will be able to teleport to a very specific location that you have defined in Ec by simply repeating the symbols and thinking of their values. (It's more reality-shifting than teleportation, but you get the idea.)

It is like putting the latitude and longitude coordinates into a vehicle and being driven there. Except you are interfacing directly with your perception rather than a vehicle.

By using Ec you are programming your perception. Ec is the software and your brain is the hardware, so to speak.

This is all quite new to everyone, I know. But it takes some time to understand and to get to the point where you are in control of what you perceive.

Baby steps is best, but I think the above is a good start.
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Well, well, well......think I'll just start over here!!!!
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Yes. Exactly. This is what I've come to comprehend.

It is the "sharing" of the word that brings up questions. Why have a language at all if it does not allow one to communicate with others? Why verbalize at all?

I appreciate your suggestions for further understanding.
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Hi.

You can communicate with others, of course. You would just use 'general' words rather than specific possibilities. The more specific your word is the less likely they would be to quickly grasp the meaning of the word.

Others would understand you because they use the same general words for the same purpose.

It is a multi-purpose tool.
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Just re-posting this since we had a discussion, in one of the threads recently, about speaking with the language. Basically, use general words when speaking to others...and specific meanings when choosing a certain perspective such as 'teleportation'.
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That's a clever asenwr to a tricky question
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Just seeing mu has already helped broaden my perspective. I believe this is easier for me than using a Genius!
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I never started a Genius for money. Money really does not interest me much.

But, I do have one for a flying saucer! Almost as soon as I put it together, I ran into some arcane information for a power source. It is not ion-drive or anti-gravity or Vril or anything else like that. I was excited enough that I re-built my Genius symbol into something more spiffy.
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Almost as soon as I put it together, I ran into some arcane information for a power source.
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Chaol has mentioned this "power system" in different areas of his postings. Bashar also talks about it.
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Somebody transcribed the very Bashar message that I was referring to.


Excerpt from "Bashar on Time Travel"

Q: Can you define the space/time coordinates in such a way as to transport back to what we call our past or our future? That is, can you move to planet Earth in 15th century?

B: Yes. Space/time is one thing. Traveling in space is traveling in time; traveling in time is traveling in space; it is one thing. However, recognize that everything will still fit in place, even from the apparent linear point of view. And that any so-called changes that may appear to take place within any previous time track that you came from, will actually not be taking place in that literal time track, but in one parallel to it. You follow me?

Q: So exactly what do you experience?

B: The same thing that you would ... the effect is basically the same. In other words, you could step into your craft, go back in time, do something -- if you are assuming that you wish to, quote/unquote, “change the way something happened.” Then when you make that change, if you go back to the exact same time track where you left off, there will be no apparent change, because the change that was made was not in your time track, by definition, because that’s not what happened in your time track.

The change, so to speak, is not a change. It is a part of the normal history of a parallel time track, a parallel universe. So, if you wish to see the effect of the so-called change, you must go to the future or go back to the present of the parallel time track that you made the change in. You follow me? Is this making any sense?

Q: Somewhat. I will have to listen to this tape.

B: You have time track A, time track B. Time track A is your time track, let us say. All right? Your history, all right? Yes, no, maybe?

Q: Yes.

B: All right. Time track B is another history altogether; everything is occurring simultaneously. Therefore, let us say, time track A and time track B are very similar, very similar. The idea, in this way, is that if you -- leaving this point in your time track A -- go back to the supposed past, you are actually going into the idea of another time track, and being a part of its history in a natural progressive way.

You cannot actually literally change your own past in the same linear coordinate system. When you, quote/unquote, “change your past,” you are simply shifting gears into another time that contains that ability to change, so you will have the experience of that change in your new present. You cannot change history. You alter yourself to another history that is appropriately representative of the change you desired to make -- more correctly.

Q: And the same applies to moving to the future.

B: Yes.

Q: How exactly do you create the isolation field?

B: It is a microwave energy effect that is an alteration of light, stepped up many magnitudes above what you typically think of as an electrical discharge. It is dispersed through the hull of the craft, through various devices, after the light is stepped up by other various devices -- one of which we call the flash matrix -- which incorporates many different elements.

The isolation field will be seen to be a microwave effect. Microwave generation, at that high rate of speed, will disconnect any object within the bubble from the universe in which it existed. Because you, in that sense, match the vibration frequency -- in a very highly condensed way -- of the speed of light itself, the speed of light being the barrier limit that represents physical dimensionality.

When you create around your craft a wall, a shell, made of the very substance of the physical universe -- light -- then you, within that shell, have created a bubble, a hole in that universe. You follow me? You are redirecting the light, out of which everything is made, around you rather than through you. You are now sustained by the primal template universe, which exists on a completely different frequency, far above and beyond the frequency of light. Therefore, in that universe, you literally are everything at once. So you can be anywhere and anywhen you want to be.

Q: Can this be done with our technology now?

B: Yes.

Q: How do you do it? Have a piece of matter bombarded with microwaves?

B: No. You will find that many individuals are working on this idea now. Listen to your media; listen to your literature. Many individuals are beginning to explore and experiment and they will come out with what you call public notification of many of these ideas.

Basically, it involves the idea of counter-rotational masses that are highly magnetically charged -- that will generate the field, of which we are speaking, in a fundamental way. Fundamental enough to allow the isolation to take place. More sophisticated control will came from the generation of these fields through more highly conductive materials.

Q: Thank you.

Q: … I think – one of the things that I am thinking about is breaking through this thing called time relation, as you mentioned yesterday, in that timeframe. The illusion of time…

B: Yes.

Q: … and what it is that we can do in order to break through this notion of the illusion of time.

B: Why thank you. Now please do understand you will not give up the illusion of time completely in your transformation – not quite yet. It can become very, very more flexible for you. It is good to break through the illusion of time, but at the same time, recognize it does serve a purpose and you can learn to use the illusion in a different way – as an illusion.

The first thing to understand about the illusion of time is that it exists for the purpose of allowing you an experience of change. Without the experience of change you would simply have change, change, change, change, change – change from one thing to another with no intermediate experience of the change.

Now while it is a valid thing to be able to view all of these different aspects of the infinite like that, the idea of the experience of change is also very important, because the experience of change is what puts you in touch with being a creator and gives you a sense of the act of creation. But by allowing the illusion of time to become more flexible, then this experience of change and acts of creation can be experienced in a different way, a more accelerated way.

Now you can use many different kinds of analogies to understand how there really is no time. We have often referred to two things, such as holographic pictures on your planet, or movie film frames on your planet, in order to illustrate the nature of how there is really no time. There are now, just beginning on your planet, also, to be books written by your theoretical physicists who are also beginning to understand that there is no time. One such book on your planet that has just been created is called, "End of Time".

One thing, therefore, that you could possibly do is to read that book and it may help you develop a way of perceiving from a timeless frame of reference. This can be understood through the sciences you call quantum mechanics and relativity. Or for those of you that do not necessarily prefer the scientific approach, you can use the other analogies we mentioned in the following way:

You can meditate more on the analogies of the motion picture filmstrip, in that you know that each frame of the film is there at the same time as all the other frames of the film. So even though one frame or many frames may represent the past of the story, and other frames may represent the present of the story and other frames on the filmstrip represent the future of the story, all the frames, nevertheless, all there, all at once. So you could meditate on the image and the feeling of the idea that physical reality, past, present and future is also similar to this notion.

Another approach would be, of course, to recognize that since time doesn’t really exist, or is an illusion, then that is also true of what you call motion because, in your dimensional reality, motion is a change in time. You say, “now my hand is here, and now my hand is here.” And that motion represents a change over time, but there really isn’t any motion, just as there isn’t any time.

To further this example you will find that between here and here, there are an infinite number of positions of your hand. All of those positions exist all at the same time. So you can understand that, if they all exist at the same time, then there really is no time. There really is no motion, but there is the illusion of motion and the illusion of time as your consciousness focuses on any one or more of those particular positions that all exist at the same time.

The illusion of motion, from here to here or from here to here or any direction, is created through your mind, through your consciousness. This is one now, this is another now, this is another now, this is another now, this is another now and so on.

As we said, “time and space are side effects of the average of all the different nows that exist within the universe.” And the illusion of motion is a side effect of your mind’s relationship to all of those different nows.

But if you can practice, perhaps in your imagination, seeing all the different positions all at the same time, then you can gain some sense of the true timelessness of existence. And you can use this sensation of timelessness within the space/time illusion to create certain changes then, more creatively and very rapidly.

For example: our civilization has learned to use this concept with regard to space travel. We know that our spaceship exists at the starting point and the ending point of the journey at the same time. We understand that those two different present moments each are different because they have a slightly different signature frequency. In other words, location or position is not some thing that an object exists in, location is actually one of the properties that defines an object.

Now follow this very closely: we understand that the spaceship that leaves the destination and the spaceship that arrives at the destination is not the same spaceship. Just as we understand that the hand that is in this position and the hand that is in that position and all the hands in-between is not the same hand, they are all different hands.

So we understand that, if we then put an energy vibration into our spaceship that is the same energy vibration of where we want to be, then the ship will just stop being where it is, and start being where it needs to wind up.

We will not have spent any time going through space to get from here to here. The ship will just be here and the ship will just be there. We know it is not the same ship, but we also know how to use the illusion of space/time to create the illusion of continuity so that it makes us feel as if it is the same ship and the same people inside who have taken the journey.

So, if you understand that your body standing at the microphone and your body in the chair are two different you’s, then you will understand that there is an infinite number of you’s. With more understanding of how to use timelessness, you can then realize that you can do one of two things – and just to use this example: you can either get up from the chair to the microphone, and then get from the microphone back to the chair in the normal way. Or you can just be in the chair and then just suddenly be at the microphone and suddenly be back at the chair.

Or when you know even more and master the idea of timelessness even more, you can be in the chair and at the microphone at the same. This is, to some degree, what I am doing with all of you right now. Because I am carrying on a communication, not only with you on your planet, but with several other individuals on other planets at the same time, using different versions of me to do all those interactions.

Does this help to exercise your imagination a little bit to figure out how you can imagine and use timelessness a bit more?

Q: Yes, thank you very much.

B: Thank you. Have fun practicing with this and don’t worry if, from time to time, you feel like you are losing yourself, you’ll be all right. Because remember: if there really is no time and no space, then there really isn’t anywhere else for you to go, but right here and right now.

[link to www.newrealities.com]
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Do you feel like you need a flying saucer to time travel?

Thanks for the link.
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Hi Chaol, I just finished reading some of your posts and some of your new website. Thank you for your insights. It is tough going understanding you. Perhaps at some point you will post a video and/or talk where you answer people's question in person. This might help with the translation of specific concepts.

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Hi. Yes, videos and other tools that illustrate Ecsys and neuronics in this world are coming.

For instance, you mention a few experiences in the quote above, that I havn't been able to form easily into concepts in my mind's eye.

They are new concepts for me. When you say 'learn new symbols' and 'you will have a different experience', I re-interpret this to mean 'keep looking at things with a fresh perspective' and don't 'plan your day'. Jesus said 'take no thought of tomorrow'. Concepts that are easy to say, and more difficult to understand. I had to be around beings living in this state of staying in the moment and not looking for something 'better', before I began to see for myself what this state was all about even. Otherwise I would never had made the effort (it is sooo different).
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I would not expect most people to 'get' exactly what I am talking about. Unique intepretation is what makes the universe seem as expansive and wonderful as it is. There is no correct interpretation.

Most humans would rather not see their own actions, or sit and just be with their own thoughts and feelings. They would rather do something, on the outside (in physicality) than sit and learn what is happening from within.
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It sounds counter-intuitive to say, but there is only 'within'.

What we seem to do on the outside is actually an internal process.

You can "look within" by focusing exclusively on the physical.

I know there are a lot of persons who would not want to hear such a thing and believe in an internal/external division so strongly (yet may also believe that everything is one thing) that to them, such a thing isn't possible.

There is no correct path or intepretation. It is actually all the same.

How will learning a new set of symbols, a language, even a metaphoric brain symbolic language, make the change that so many have been seeking and rarely locating (because they were never taught it young)? Since the tool that they are using, their minds, is still getting in the way, as it has been all these thousands or more of years. Our conditioning, to not be present, is severe and leaves us all retarded, I feel, at the moment.
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Language is everything that exists.

You can only perceive symbols (representations)
. You cannot perceive beyond your own perception. Everything that exists is represented to you not as it truly exists but as how you see it.

Learning how you perceive would be invaluable.

Learning how things are represented is invaluable.

However, I would recommend the Genius to anyone wanting to understand or experience anything. It is the most powerful tool.

We have had a few people realize that just sitting and being with their thoughts brings them great joy and happiness....eventually (though no guarantees)...and after 30 plus years (give or take 10 or 20).

Now you are saying you have quite a few more concepts that could be of use to us and all we need to do is learn a language that is symbolic (which seems to be the language of perception).

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Ecsys or neuronics is not the path to happiness.

The experience of happiness depends on your perspective. You can be happy or content in any state.

We think that X will make us happy when really the answer is in the process.

What we seek is not "over there". It is right here, right now. We all intuitively know this. And we are all so eager to forget. This is what creates the universe. Without this seeking, this division, there would be nothing to perceive.

So, in some ways, the further away this desired state appears the better.

You could say that "getting there" makes the energy that powers the universe.

You don't actually need to learn Ec. However, I would highly recommend the Genius.

Perhaps this, neuronics, will get us around our current conditioning that tells us that we need to keeping doing, rather than being. Humans have become addicted to doing, rather than being.
It took me 15 years to learn to just be. That is because I finally found someone that just 'is', that I could learn from and I was willing to put in all the time I had to learning it. Becoming un-addicted to my mind takes up most of my time. Which is fine. I don't mind. It is fun to do in fact. Maybe not to other people,...most seem to feel I am pulling teeth. They feel that somehow it is painful to just be honest and feel everything.

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There is only doing.

There is only relationships between one thing and an other.

"Being" is like 1 thing existing by itself.

"Doing" is the introduction of something else and the interactions that result from the relationships.

What seems like being is actually doing. It's just experiencing relationships that are perhaps more pleasing.

How long will your system take?
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The Genius could take from 1 minute to make use of.

And is it the right one for this Earth?
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Yes.

How do I know? I am able to see more of the entire path of the introduction of Ecsys into this world.

Has anyone here been able to master your neuronics? At first you made it sound like it worked fast, and now, what two years later (your first thread appeared in 2009), is it working?
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Where I come from there are many people that make 'conscious' use of it.

You have also mastered it, you just don't realize it yet.

If you did not master the language of perception then you would be able to perceive.

"Ecsys" is what it is. "Neuronics" is how it works.

At first you made it sound like it worked fast, and now, what two years later (your first thread appeared in 2009), is it working?
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Neuronics was introduced about 1 month ago, on November 23, 2010.

However, the 2-year anniversary of the introduction of Ecsys would be September of 2011.

I would not expect most people to learn much about new concepts in 1 month.

The Genius can work fast when used properly. This is from my own experience training others.

The disconnect is perhaps because these are new concepts unlike ones that you know currently.

This is part of the process.

For example, when we think that "symbol" can only be something like a dollar sign and not the tissue paper next to your dinner plate then we have some trouble letting go of these old concepts.

So, if I say that in order to use the Genius you create a symbol and your first symbol is a dollar sign this is part of the learning process. Your first symbol is your first effort. It is not 'wrong'. It is part of the learning process.

It is (literally) your brain connecting one concept to an other so that you begin to understand that the tissue paper is just as symbolic as the dollar sign.

Someone else may create a physical object on their first effort (as instructed). This is also part of the learning process. Each person is doing it the way they should. Not everyone does it the same.

When used properly, the Genius is extremely powerful and can be used immediately.

Let go of your old concepts in order to use something new.
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Nice review and good remember in this age where eveyone is seeking "enlightenment". And for me, this statement:

"You can "look within" by focusing exclusively on the physical."

confirms my suspicions re: what is taught about the process to enlightenment.

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Starting fresh helps, as noted above. Just to make sure the symbols you use aren't "tainted".
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I am the one who tried to use daisies as a symbol to change my home environment and, instead, my parakeet died. I've considered Chaol's advice for the past couple weeks, including the possibility that my symbol of "daisies" may already have had a meaning and that that meaning could be "tainted". It just now occurred to me that there is the phrase "pushing up daisies", which means that something died and is buried underground with daisies growing up over the grave. Maybe it is this other meaning associated with daisies that caused my parakeet to die.

There was another poster who responded to this report of my experience who also said that something similar happened to him/her. I am beginning to grasp the implications of the Genius method. In fact, the apparent power of it frightens me a little bit. I mean, look at what could go wrong!
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Here's a great insight into why a Genius went wrong.
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It sounds counter-intuitive to say, but there is only 'within'.

What we seem to do on the outside is actually an internal process.
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A couple years ago, I discovered that I could see through my closed eyelids. After playing around with it, I realized that what I see "outside" is actually inside. I also realized that there is no inside/outside. They're the same thing.

Chaol, is there any significance in that what I see "inside" still looks different from what I see "outside" (understanding that there really is no inside/outside)? It seems that what I see inside has more depth and more intense colors. A blue sky outside, for example, may look like a luminescent violet color inside. I can also see further on the inside. When I open my eyes, there is a limit to how far I can see.
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Hi.

Yes, it's like looking at a beautiful chair that belongs to you and then seeing a grossly overweight, oiled up, naked old man sit in it.

The chair is different because you have a new perspective of it.

You're experiencing your perception when you open your eyes and when you close your eyes, but the difference is that it's a new perspective.

Open your eyes and turn off the lights. Also a new perspective.

It's not a limit on how far you can see, you're just then placing more importance on some aspects over others. Maybe wondering why the colors are different or why you appear to see more but not noticing the deeper inter-relationships or other things, equally important.
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New ways of thinking ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Which 10% of these bodies are human?


The old, legacy parts.
See here: [link to www.scientificamerican.com]

Many of these parts came from outside Earth, as people are beginning to understand.
There are actually several "humans genomes", not just one. (The intestines have their own genome, for example.)

Humans are becoming something else entirely.

i.e., what would be called non-human.
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Hi Chaol,

I wonder if you can expand on the comments I have underlined above - Legacy of what? Which people are beginning to understand that these parts come from outside earth?

With thanks,

:-)
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Hi.

Mostly 'parts' and physical influences from our solar system, some beyond.

There are different levels of physicality, not just the kind you experience when you touch something. Light/sound is physical, as is dreaming and things-that-do-not-yet-have-words.

A lot of things land on Earth from other places, some quite far away. There's a lot of junk and energy flying around, most of which we can't see with our eyes.

We look at the moon and thank the heavens for our atmosphere but overlook the things we can't readily see that are able to get past it and not only change our physical environment but our human biology.

We may think a new idea (like Twitter, for example) came from some guy messing around on his computer when it may have come from outer space. I don't mean aliens implanting ideas into our minds but a thing like a virus or energetic influence.

Sometimes industrial influences are blamed for changes to our bodies, minds, and environment that originated extra-terrestrially. (Sometimes the industry itself is from outer space.)

It's all perspective, however. The distance between you and the most distant star is not a physical one, however. It's an illustration of how relative something is to you.

A flash of insight may have come from an other galaxy because it's not relative.

The first microbes on Earth may have come from outside it because they were not very relative to the local environment.

Outside influences are necessary because things, naturally, are not exactly relatively to one-another.

The more "rapidly" we develop the more what we develop is relative to what there was immediately previous. So, we are actually becoming more relevant humans. We are adopting our technology into our biology, in body and mind. And that is a kind of human very unlike our ancestors.
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Awesome!
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Humanity without physicality? yup is called death
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Maybe.

But humanity can also be defined as, "Psychological characteristics that all normal humans have in common".

I would extend this to include the state of being human, which increasingly includes non-physical things.

Moreso, the future is probably very different from what we now know.

There was a time when even the clothes you are now wearing were "impossible". There are many more "impossibilities" in our future, even the end of human natural death.

I'm sure the fetus thinks it will die if it leaves the womb. But, for it, a new kind of physicality is at hand (and foot, and mouth...) An expanded version of itself in which it can see the things it only heard of before through the walls of the womb, as in a dream.

Thankfully, things change and life goes on without our old ideas of what we should be.
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Interesting! Chaol, come back. We have questions! afro
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hi chaol,could the genius be used to heal a very sick friend?if so how would i go about it thanks
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Hi.

You can do this through symbol.

For example, 2 days ago my key fob had a broken third button. (My housekeeper took the wrong set of keys so I could not automatically open my garage.)

In my mind, I simply created a map of what I think it should look like.

It doesn't matter that the map was accurate. What matters is that I mapped everything that I know about the fob to a symbol. In my mind, the layout was broken. I then "fixed it" in my mind by changing the connections.

The 'healing' of which you speak can be done in a similar manner.

However, it may be that your friend is sick in your perspective and all immediate perspectives. Which means, basically,

My first question would be, "How relative is this friend to your experience?" because the more relative they are the more difficult it may be to 'heal' them. It takes more 'energy' to change to a different perspective where your friend is healthy if your friend is deeply-integrated into your perspective.

Hope this helps.
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Very interesting!
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We may think a new idea (like Twitter, for example) came from some guy messing around on his computer when it may have come from outer space. I don't mean aliens implanting ideas into our minds but a thing like a virus or energetic influence.
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I wonder if the following is indicative of our alien visitors?


Ice-bound hunter sees first hint of cosmic neutrinos

A pair of neutrinos detected in Antarctica may be the first of these ghostly particles seen coming from outside the solar system since 1987.

Lower energy neutrinos have been seen coming from the sun and as products of cosmic rays colliding with Earth's atmosphere. In 1987, three underground detectors also saw neutrinos coming from a supernova in the nearby Large Magellanic Cloud. Since then, all attempts to detect neutrinos from beyond the solar system have been unsuccessful.


[link to www.newscientist.com]



Icy experiment catches record-energy neutrinos

Scientists on a South-Pole-based neutrino experiment reported today that they have detected the two highest-energy neutrinos ever observed.

These particles stomped the competition, coming in with about 10 times the energy of the previous record-holder.


[link to www.symmetrymagazine.org]
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In the alternate Earth where I am from,


enough said jerkit

love the sociopaths on this site though
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Enough said or enough read? ;)

You've actually read it, so what does that mean?

Consider it light entertainment, and you'll be fine. No infections need occur.

When we focus more on the message than where it comes from then there is understanding.

The source can rarely be pinpointed. The message is much more obvious.
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Aha! I thought this statement made by Chaol interesting. It sounds as though one decides to make something an infection. I'm thinking now on how he talks about emotions are infections.
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Basically, we are not human.

"I" includes all these other life forms.

We think their thoughts and feel their feelings along with "ours".

The cells do not think of themcells as a single entity any more than your mouth does.

Your mouth has its own genome and would be considered 'conscious' but would not say "I" or "me".

Those terms (I, me) are our own ideas or interpretation of reality.

We perceive that which is most relative to us and say ."that is me".

The cells realize it is part of another whole (YOU) as much as realize that you are.

After becoming non-physical, what then happens to the "I"? Will there still be an "I"? A "me"?
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You are already non-physical.

Physicality does not actually exist.

But to answer your question, the "I" will still be there. It'll just be a different you. You'll still remember your childhood and your favorite drink.

The difference is that your reality won't take as long to adapt to your thoughts.

Your reality will be as you want it to be. (The entirety of your wants, not just what you want at a particular moment.)
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"Your reality will be the entirety of your wants." Nice!

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I was wondering the same thing, but came to the conclusion that the zig-zagging was an important part of mind mapping/reprogramming/shaping.

Also, I am teaching my kids Ec as I learn (assist others and you will be assisted), and am wondering if you could please provide a simple definition and some examples of their use for the symbols -PL (kata) and -P-L (booba).
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On one of Chaol's earlier posts in this thread he noted booba was "changing" and kata is "continuous"

You are probably asking for additional clarification, if so it would be nice to get some examples. I personally considered synonyms to clarify the terms inernally, but it would be nice to hear Chaol's interpretation.
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I marvel at how you guys even can learn this stuff... let alone use it. To me it is mathematical gibberish (but maybe not being a native english speaker doesn't help reading the instructions).
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It is most important to understand that everything is YOUR perspective, there is nothing independent of your perspective. Once you "feel" or "believe" that, then you can know that some things are close to you (in reality, time, distance) and some things are distant from you (in reality, time, distance).

Then it is important to understand all that you perceive can be understood (internally, via perspective) as logic(rules, guidelines, law, etc), possibility(paths for logic to follow, potential, space, etc), interaction(relationships or possibilities with logic/logic with possibilities) or symbol(representation, definition, names, paradigms, etc.

Then you can map them out with logic to your left, possibility beneath you, interaction to your right and symbol above you.

Then you can choose to separate logic, possibility, interaction and symbol each into High(strong, better, more than it's norm), Neutral(normal, average, what you'd expect) and Low(less than normal, weak, worse) versions of themself.

Then you can create an input and output, using high, neutral or low values of logic, possibility, interaction and symbol to begin to notice the more subtle aspects of your reality that you may or may not have previously defined. It's kind of like metaphor.

Chaol has us map it out on a chart, then extract the characters and assign a visual(the character), auditory(the internal/external sound) to them, to better remember the meaning and allow your mind to quickly notice it as it appears around you.


I may have been a little out of line, but I am finding as I work to memorize EC, I perceive a kinesthetic(feeling) aspect to them as well with the left of me(my perspective), below me, right of me, above me thing. I hope to learn this is a bad idea before I have to unlearn it.

I hope this helps.
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This is awesome, MM. Thank you! hf
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In Ec, there is no right or wrong. There is only perspective.

If you think cats are evil then you'd map it out as such.

You can say "cat" in English but does the person to whom you are speaking really know how you feel?

When you exercise the expression in Ec the person may know that you're talking about something 'feline' and 'evil' for example. They'd usually use their own perspective about what it is.

That's the beauty of Ec. By communicating in it you form a tremendous amount of relationships and, thus, more things become relative. (Thus, expansion of what you'd call intelligence and lots of other fun stuff.)

However, it may be hard to conceptualize how a word in Ec can have both standard definitions and a more nebulous definition.

But actually, in English you do it all the time in a somewhat different way. (Ever pick up on social queues? Maybe a friend's "yes" has a deeper meaning, for example.)

Hope this helps :)
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Two things I see in Chaol's post above.

He talks about another person using their own perspective about something you might be talking about. So, this is the first time I remember running across him talking about this....I had been wondering because he makes a statement that seems to indicate that it's just me in the universe.

And I can't help but notice from his comment that Ec helps us form more relationships so more things are relative. It fits in with the other post of his I just re-posted, that with Ec we have the the reality of all (or more) of the things we want.
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Its like the movie "GAMER". They will wait until an army of people have this new transmitters in their bodies and then press a button that activates a code causing everyone to COMPLETELY FUCKING LOSE IT! Not cool. Fuck technology unless its Green and Human/Earth Friendly....
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Green is what's "killing" us, not the other way around.

I know it doesn't seem like it, though.
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Wow! I hope somebody asked him about this. I would definitely like to know more about it.
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I have absolutely no fucking idea where to start to with this stuff. I've been reading this guy's posts, I can follow along. But the language, man, what? Someone talk to me. I just signed up for this class- what am I doing?
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Just keep in mind the Genius and Ec language are somewhat separate for 'the basics'.

The Genius: Create a map from one perception to the next (within 1-3 days if done properly and used without Ec).

Ec: Several uses. But can be used for more advanced 'Genius' purposes. Basic purposes are to alter your perspective consciously, increase your thinking 'speed' (making associations), and others.
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Just started another Genius today and had results within 2 hours. Not the final results, but results.

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:D

Have you gotten the genius to work for you yet?
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Every day, but not with conscious intent.
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Yes, same. I have been very lazy with direct use of the Genius. Mostly because I am not sure what I want to change, or what I want to change first, or how to phrase what I want which is pretty lame. So time to explore that some.

I feel though, that I brought a new friend to me using the Genius, only partially consciously though.
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That's the thing. Sometimes we can't define what it is we want.

That could mean, however, that the 'creation' process is beneath the surface and outside of our direct knowledge of it.
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Interesting comment.
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not sure if this was linked in chaol threads before..

[link to news.yahoo.com]
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Just thought id share another source of how you can communicate with god. NUMB3RS

Write down interesting numbers sequences give them all definitions. Go through your daily life. And if you see those interesting numbers sequences note them and see the message.

MM you edited your post at 12:12

The Gateway 12:12, meaning of the Numbers
Thread: The Gateway 12:12, meaning of the Numbers

Ive linked that page before but ignore those definitions if u must and create your own? / add on
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Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 395)

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R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz
A Study of Numbers: A Guide To The Constant Creation of The Universe

Discover what the Elohim really are. Remember, Chaol is Elohim and he is an aspect of you.

Discover how to communicate in numbers.

Discover the meaning of 1, 2, 3, 5.

Discover the significance of 9.

Discover the purpose of the angles in the neuronicons and what they do.

Discover how to compute values.

Discover the relationships of numbers and pulses. Discovery why an illusion is not really there; why there is no "consciousness", and why you "seem" to be awake and alive.

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Extra:

"These nine triangles are of various sizes and intersect with one another. In the middle is the power point (bindu), visualizing the highest, the invisible, elusive centre from which the entire figure and the cosmos expand."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

A Sri Yantra mandala created by the sound of a human voice
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When employing the Genius method, an unusual, unexpected element is introduced into the environment, because it acts as a resistor. A resistor interrupts a flow of current.
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Will you be updating the DNA section of the website soon?

Perhaps this article about the electricity in cells is a lead-up to discussing DNA?
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Anything that has an electric field is intelligent, and DNA is indeed intelligent.

Intelligent beings communicate in their own language, I suppose. Some of us are like poetry.

How DNA follows the Ecsys model isn't too hard to figure out with some work, but making it obvious isn't really something that should be done right now.

Doubt alone about the value of the material keeps certain people from trying to figure it out. I don't want to give anyone an "aha" moment with regards to DNA at this time, so I left it our for now.

Let's just say there is some correlation. But it isn't useful at this time and is, thus, meaningless.
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Anybody figure it out? This may e what Chaol was thinking about when he told us that we have to cross the bridge ourselves....this means there is another way to cross the bridge. Could using Ecsys to influence DNA be another way to cross?