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are you saying, go insane? the mind will break?
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You equate breaking your mind with insanity?
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are you saying, go insane? the mind will break?

You equate breaking your mind with insanity?
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good question. no, i think it is setting it free. but you have to be prepared to see whats on the other side. i am not sure i am completely prepared yet.
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are you saying, go insane? the mind will break?
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I am saying, that this is far more serious "business", than anything you'll find in the "real" world.
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are you saying, go insane? the mind will break?

You equate breaking your mind with insanity?


good question. no, i think it is setting it free. but you have to be prepared to see whats on the other side. i am not sure i am completely prepared yet.
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How can you prepare for something you know nothing about?
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are you saying, go insane? the mind will break?


I am saying, that this is far more serious "business", than anything you'll find in the "real" world.
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explain
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are you saying, go insane? the mind will break?

You equate breaking your mind with insanity?


good question. no, i think it is setting it free. but you have to be prepared to see whats on the other side. i am not sure i am completely prepared yet.


How can you prepare for something you know nothing about?
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to be totally enlightened means being ready to encapsulate all that it implies, whatever it is. it is being emptied in order to be refilled. my soul may be equipped but is not necessarily ready or strong enough.
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or i could simply be "intellectualizing" God so I can understand Him without getting my heart involved... psychologically speaking. this is one of my character defects.
lol
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What i am not saying, that i will survive it, because the price for any progress, is being every single day on the edge.
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In the end, you have to accept any initiations as the core of who you are and are becoming, no matter what the world around you tells it. For this reason, they are sometimes scheduled while the person is not a fully functioning individual, so that they will come to think of themselves mainly as an initiate. Certainly happened to me.
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are you saying, go insane? the mind will break?

You equate breaking your mind with insanity?


good question. no, i think it is setting it free. but you have to be prepared to see whats on the other side. i am not sure i am completely prepared yet.


How can you prepare for something you know nothing about?

to be totally enlightened means being ready to encapsulate all that it implies, whatever it is. it is being emptied in order to be refilled. my soul may be equipped but is not necessarily ready or strong enough.
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Woe to those who prepare for a heatwave only to open their door to a snowstorm.... chuckle
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why, oh why, did i not choose the BLUE pill.....
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I swear I had a dream I could not remember, except for the word: Tetragrammaton, written on a huge white card.

There was a sense of urgency that I should remember this word.
It was years ago, and back them I could only find it linked to YHWH... which was not so pleasing to me at the time...

So this thread is fascinating to me Salt & Light...
THX for posting it :)

PS: I ironically have in my possession, a charm with this 'Tetragrammaton' on it. Perhaps I should wear it?

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"Truths & Myths Revealed: Q & A Session with Metatron'

Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn


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I swear I had a dream I could not remember, except for the word: Tetragrammaton, written on a huge white card.

There was a sense of urgency that I should remember this word.
It was years ago, and back them I could only find it linked to YHWH... which was not so pleasing to me at the time...

So this thread is fascinating to me Salt & Light...
THX for posting it :)

PS: I ironically have in my possession, a charm with this 'Tetragrammaton' on it. Perhaps I should wear it?
 Quoting: ^OO^


maybe... prophetic dreams have always been time markers for me.

thanks for being here.
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why, oh why, did i not choose the BLUE pill.....
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Becuase by posting here, youve taken the RED one chuckle
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I swear I had a dream I could not remember, except for the word: Tetragrammaton, written on a huge white card.
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I had a dream exactly like that, only the word in mine was TACO BELL lol
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"Truths & Myths Revealed: Q & A Session with Metatron'

Archangel Metatron via James Tyberonn


[link to www.earth-keeper.com]
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thank you for your link. i am reading it now. i don't subscribe to channelers. too open for interpretation, egos in the way more often than not. but interesting anyway.
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I swear I had a dream I could not remember, except for the word: Tetragrammaton, written on a huge white card.

I had a dream exactly like that, only the word in mine was TACO BELL lol
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mmmmm nachos bell grande....
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Look what I found!

The sacred name of God. In Hebrew "four-letter word" or symbol meaning yod-ye-vau-he (YHWH) and signifying Yahweh. It is pronounced in Hebrew as "Adomai," and written generally as JHYH with variations of JHVH or YHVH. In English it became Jehovah.

This has often been confused with God introduction of Himself to Moses, "I Am That I Am." (Exodus 3:14) This particular introduction was derived from the god Ab-braham or Father Braham who introduced himself in Sanskrit 'Tat Sat'--"I Am That that Is."

The root YHWH is radical of HWH, he-vau-he, meaning "being" or "life" or "woman" which were interchangeable concepts in the ancient Middle East. These identical letters in Latin are E-V-E: Eve. So the central or inner meaning of the Tetragrammaton is Eve, the Mother of All Living.

In the Gnostic Gospels this concept also is conveyed. The Wisdom of God, or the Divine Spirit and Mother, is believed the real creator of the world. Allegedly her son, who was called the demiurge, stold his power from his mother and with it created the world. The early Gnostics believed the demiurge was the God which the orthodox Christians adored and not the true God or Supreme Being which they symbolized as Iao.

The Tetragrammaton had two versions. EHYH, the lesser-known one, comes from Hayya, another one of Eve's many names, which designates the Goddess in her special connection to women in childbirth. On Samaritan phylacteries the male and female versions of the Tetragrammaton were intertwined.

The Hebrew mystics embodied this sacred name of God into the lore of Kabbalism. The "ineffable name" of God by which all the powers of the universe could be controlled. Further Kabbalistic thought holds that the name YHWH contained all the Forces of Nature, and since some thought it could be divided this was a indication according to Kabbalistic theory that God had lost His Shekina, his feminine part or the Great Mother, who, as believed by mystics, had to return before there would be peace or harmony in the universe.

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Becuase by posting here, youve taken the RED one chuckle
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The Red one is being lost for an eternity and actually find something.
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Look what I found!

The sacred name of God. In Hebrew "four-letter word" or symbol meaning yod-ye-vau-he (YHWH) and signifying Yahweh. It is pronounced in Hebrew as "Adomai," and written generally as JHYH with variations of JHVH or YHVH. In English it became Jehovah.

This has often been confused with God introduction of Himself to Moses, "I Am That I Am." (Exodus 3:14) This particular introduction was derived from the god Ab-braham or Father Braham who introduced himself in Sanskrit 'Tat Sat'--"I Am That that Is."

The root YHWH is radical of HWH, he-vau-he, meaning "being" or "life" or "woman" which were interchangeable concepts in the ancient Middle East. These identical letters in Latin are E-V-E: Eve. So the central or inner meaning of the Tetragrammaton is Eve, the Mother of All Living.

In the Gnostic Gospels this concept also is conveyed. The Wisdom of God, or the Divine Spirit and Mother, is believed the real creator of the world. Allegedly her son, who was called the demiurge, stold his power from his mother and with it created the world. The early Gnostics believed the demiurge was the God which the orthodox Christians adored and not the true God or Supreme Being which they symbolized as Iao.

The Tetragrammaton had two versions. EHYH, the lesser-known one, comes from Hayya, another one of Eve's many names, which designates the Goddess in her special connection to women in childbirth. On Samaritan phylacteries the male and female versions of the Tetragrammaton were intertwined.

The Hebrew mystics embodied this sacred name of God into the lore of Kabbalism. The "ineffable name" of God by which all the powers of the universe could be controlled. Further Kabbalistic thought holds that the name YHWH contained all the Forces of Nature, and since some thought it could be divided this was a indication according to Kabbalistic theory that God had lost His Shekina, his feminine part or the Great Mother, who, as believed by mystics, had to return before there would be peace or harmony in the universe.

(cont)
[link to www.themystica.com]
 Quoting: ^OO^


God created man in His own image. Male and female created He them. Every human has the ability to be either male or female within the womb. it is the delivery of a chromosome that decides the difference. we have both male and female organs for the first 6 weeks of life and the x or y chromosome decides whether the parts will develop as male or female. but the potential for either is in every person.

i believe that when God created Adam, within Adam (first man) was the DNA for all men. He had to have everything that every person could have, including being female. Latin for female is "the male with the fetus" or "fetus male"
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hmmm, interesting. at start of 7th week, one becomes either male or female....
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CrAzY! 7th week eh? WOW!


Check this out. I can hardly understand it myself...lol
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Blavatsky speaks about the Tetragrammaton

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CrAzY! 7th week eh? WOW!


Check this out. I can hardly understand it myself...lol
[link to www.blavatsky.net]

Blavatsky speaks about the Tetragrammaton
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that is a complex read, not sure i can absorb it that way.
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Here is an article about Metatron as Enoch. I take this in but am also interested in the primordial Metatron.

Metatron
by Ilil Arbel, Ph.D.
The myths of Metatron are extremely complicated, and at least two separate versions exist. The first version states he came into being when God created the world, and immediately assumed his many responsibilities. The second claims that he was first a human named Enoch, a pious, good man who had ascended to Heaven a few times, and eventually was transformed into a fiery angel. Some later books adopt the first version, some the second, and in other literature both are combined. There are even two versions of the name Metatron, one spelled with seven letters, the other with six, lacking the Hebrew letter "yod." The Kabbalists explained that the six-letter name represents the Enoch-related Metatron, while the seven-letter name refers to the primordial Metatron. Despite the elaborate debate, the origin of Metatron's name is not clear. Many attempts have been made to explain it, but none of them is satisfactory, since the word has no real meaning or root in any language. Some authors think it may be derived from private meditations and visions, or even glossolalia. This article concentrates on the Metatron-Enoch version

Metatron is one of the most important angels in the heavenly hierarchy. He is a member of a special group that is permitted to look at God's countenance, an honor most angels do not share. In the literature, Metatron is often referred to as "the Prince of the Countenance."

In the Babylonian Talmud, Metatron is mentioned only three times, but the references are important. All three relate to the problem of Metatron's immense power, which may have caused some people to confuse him with God. In later literature he was even mentioned as the "lesser Yahweh" -- a serious blasphemy for the strictly Monotheistic Judaism. Later, some authors tried to resolve the issue by showing how the Hebrew letters of the name of a mythical predecessor, the angel Yahoel (later to be entirely identified with Metatron), were the same letters as those in the name of Yahweh. Another legend states that God himself named him so, out of affection. A fascinating legend tells of a particularly interesting and famous Jewish heretic, Elisha ben Avuyah, who saw Metatron sitting by God's side, occupying the same type of throne. This made Elisha suspect that two equal powers operated in the universe -- God and Metatron. The legend continues to explain that he made a false assumption, which indeed cost Elisha his position within the Jewish community. According to these scholars, God permitted Metatron to sit because, as God's scribe, he recorded the good deeds of the Nation of Israel. This story works very well with two of Metatron's many heavenly tasks: a scribe and an advocate, defending the Nation of Israel in the heavenly court.

Enoch, a pious teacher, scribe and leader of his people, is famed for the part he took in the tragedy of the fallen angels (see Watchers). Living during a time of great sins, around the flood, he had visited Heaven more than once. However, the time was ripe for a most significant trip. One night, two angels woke him up and commanded him to prepare for his journey. They took him on their wings, and showed him all the Heavens and their inhabitants, including a side trip to Paradise and to the place of punishment and torture of the sinners, which strangely enough was located not too far from paradise. He observed the activity of the sun and the moon, and made a visit of consolation to rebellious angels, the Grigori, succeeding in bringing them closer to God. After the tour, the great Angels Gabriel and Michael lead him straight to God's Throne.

Sitting next to God, Enoch was instructed in wisdom, and using his skills as a scribe, prepared three hundred and sixty-six books. When he learned everything, a most significant thing happened. God revealed to him great secrets -- some of which are even kept secret from the angels! These included the secrets of Creation, the duration of time the world will survive, and what will happen after its demise. At the end of these discussions, Enoch returned to earth for a limited time, to instruct everyone, including his sons, in all he learned. After thirty days, the angels returned him to Heaven.

And then the divine transformation took place. Additional wisdom and spiritual qualities caused Enoch's height and breadth to become equal to the height and breadth of the earth. God attached thirty-six wings to his body, and gave him three hundred and sixty-five eyes, each as bright as the sun. His body turned into celestial fire -- flesh, veins, bones, hair, all metamorphosed to glorious flame. Sparks emanated from him, and storms, whirlwind, and thunder encircled his form. The angels dressed him in magnificent garments, including a crown, and arranged his throne. A heavenly herald proclaimed that from then on his name would no longer be Enoch, but Metatron, and that all angels must obey him, as second only to God.

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i really like that...
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Yep. Fascinating stuff.

I am with you... I could hardly understand what I was reading in my last link.
Madame B claimed to study the Kabbalah for over 30 years and believe things to be different than taught regarding the Tetragrammaton.

So I guess I am a little confused now, lol

So is this Tetragrammaton a good thing, or a devious one?
It seems to be linked with Metatron.
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Yep. Fascinating stuff.

I am with you... I could hardly understand what I was reading in my last link.
Madame B claimed to study the Kabbalah for over 30 years and believe things to be different than taught regarding the Tetragrammaton.

So I guess I am a little confused now, lol

So is this Tetragrammaton a good thing, or a devious one?
It seems to be linked with Metatron.
 Quoting: ^OO^


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The myths of Metatron are extremely complicated, and at least two separate versions exist.
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The beings of the macrocosmos are the way God manifests itself in certain of his characteristics. You are actually made of an armada of beings yourself, which stand for your charateristics and have access to this world, through your dreams - this dream world will become "reality" later on, on the astral plane.

As above, so below.
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Yep. Fascinating stuff.

I am with you... I could hardly understand what I was reading in my last link.
Madame B claimed to study the Kabbalah for over 30 years and believe things to be different than taught regarding the Tetragrammaton.

So I guess I am a little confused now, lol

So is this Tetragrammaton a good thing, or a devious one?
It seems to be linked with Metatron.
 Quoting: ^OO^


women are not permitted to study Kaballah without very strong references and persuasion.

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