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The languages of the Georgia Guidestones

 
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The 10 guides of the Georgia Guidestones are written on 8 stones in 8 different languages: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.

Along the top of the guidestones, "a shorter message is written along the top of the structure in 4 languages's scripts: Babylonian, Classical Greek, Sanskrit, and Egyptian hieroglyphs." - wiki

Does anyone know what the ancient language messages are?

Also, in what order do the ancient language messages appear in conjunction to the modern language stones - what i mean is, for instance, what are the modern language messages on the left and right side of (say) the Babylonian message?

Anyone have any idea why the 8 modern languages were chosen to represent the stones?

I don't know much about the topic but its really caught my attention and would love to learn more about it. If anyone has any good links or sources, especially on the topic of deciphering the languages, I would really appreciate it.

I was initially surprised that German isn't incorporated within the stones - considering it is widely used within the European Union, but then again, of the 8 languages chosen, English is a Germanic language. All the 8 modern languages selected are incorporated from different language families. 1dunno1
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Also, in what order do the ancient language messages appear in conjunction to the modern language stones - what i mean is, for instance, what are the modern language messages on the left and right side of (say) the Babylonian message?

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I think I found this answer.
[link to www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com]

Russian (on top: Babylonian Cuneiform) English | Spanish (Classical Greek) Swahili | Hindi (Sanskrit) Hebrew | Arabic (Egyptian Hieroglyphics) Chinese
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I think the message is telling...fits right in with the NWO.
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I want to know why is Hebrew put in those 8 languages? there is much more German speaking people then Hebrew...how manny 15 million of them?
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I want to know why is Hebrew put in those 8 languages? there is much more German speaking people then Hebrew...how manny 15 million of them?
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The languages selected must be in some way interconnected. The 3rd guide on the stone states: Unite humanity with a living new language. Maybe these 8 serve as a model for the new world language.
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interesting.
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Anyone have any idea why the 8 modern languages were chosen to represent the stones?


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Yes I do. This wonderful monument results from thinking that took place in London in the late 1960's and early 1970's. The think tank that was tasked with this was an entirely volunteer group of some of the must intelligent people that could be mustered and their prognostications on the likely important languages was based on economic and population growth at the time. Germany was predicted to eventually fall apart and either Russian or English was predicted to become the dominant language of Europe. There was some mistaken views on the burgeoning of Africa, AIDS was not predicted and Swahili gain unnatural stature. Still all in all we did a pretty good job of it, I think.
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I want to know why is Hebrew put in those 8 languages? there is much more German speaking people then Hebrew...how manny 15 million of them?
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It was because of the historical record in that language. It survived for a very long time and was predicted to be understandable by scholars even in the distant future. Although the text is brief, there is a rosetta stone like quality to the languages chosen, where enough of several would provide clues to the others, and potentially open a scholarly door.
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Anyone have any idea why the 8 modern languages were chosen to represent the stones?



Yes I do. This wonderful monument results from thinking that took place in London in the late 1960's and early 1970's. The think tank that was tasked with this was an entirely volunteer group of some of the must intelligent people that could be mustered and their prognostications on the likely important languages was based on economic and population growth at the time. Germany was predicted to eventually fall apart and either Russian or English was predicted to become the dominant language of Europe. There was some mistaken views on the burgeoning of Africa, AIDS was not predicted and Swahili gain unnatural stature. Still all in all we did a pretty good job of it, I think.
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Thanks. I was actually most curious why Swahili was chosen.

Who are the major proponents of these studies?
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Thanks. I was actually most curious why Swahili was chosen.

Who are the major proponents of these studies?
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The members were raised from London Mensa and the group activities were organized and financed through a barrister, expert in charitable causes and working out of the Middle Temple in London. The barrister, whose initials were LLW fronted and directed everything.
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Only a fool would take the message of these stones seriously.

Their call for 'An Age of Reason' is nonsense. We are already living in such an age and what we see is that 'Reason' is a faculty of extremely limited use; setting it up as a value is ridiculous since its employment invariably results only in disagreement.

As for the notion of creating "a living new language" this too is absurd. Living languages are the result of historical accretion over long periods of time by a single culture. A "new language" is certainly possible, as George Orwell showed us with the Newspeak of 1984, but such a language could hardly be considered "living" in any real sense; it would be sterile and dead from the start.
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This wonderful monument results from thinking that took place in London in the late 1960's and .. all in all we did a pretty good job of it, I think.
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Canada - Just really curious here, and have a few questions.

1. What would you say your odds are on being one of the 12 who successfully 'make it' to being one of the 500 million allowed to survive?

2. (Since your odds arent very good) How do you think you'll be eliminated?
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The language of the NWO was supposed to be Esperanto.
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This wonderful monument results from thinking that took place in London in the late 1960's and .. all in all we did a pretty good job of it, I think.

Canada - Just really curious here, and have a few questions.

1. What would you say your odds are on being one of the 12 who successfully 'make it' to being one of the 500 million allowed to survive?

2. (Since your odds arent very good) How do you think you'll be eliminated?
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Zero, as are yours. I will die of old age. Depending on your age now, you too may also.
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Anyone have any idea why the 8 modern languages were chosen to represent the stones?



Yes I do. This wonderful monument results from thinking that took place in London in the late 1960's and early 1970's. The think tank that was tasked with this was an entirely volunteer group of some of the must intelligent people that could be mustered and their prognostications on the likely important languages was based on economic and population growth at the time. Germany was predicted to eventually fall apart and either Russian or English was predicted to become the dominant language of Europe. There was some mistaken views on the burgeoning of Africa, AIDS was not predicted and Swahili gain unnatural stature. Still all in all we did a pretty good job of it, I think.
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Why were Hebrew and Swahili used? That was just plain stupid. After the Apocalypse only pure Aryans will remain!
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Re: The languages of the Georgia Guidestones
Rosetta Stone.

The designers of the Guidestones were thinking about a future where most people lost the ability to read/write for a time and a new language emerged that is based from our languages.

The Rosetta Stone [link to www.ancientegypt.co.uk] was written in three scripts. Prior to its translation we did not understand Egyptian hieroglyphics. humanity had lost the ability to read them. Thus through our ability to understand one or two languages in whole or in part, we were able to break the Egyptian language code and now we can read hieroglyphics.

Why Hebrew? Because it is the most well used ancient "dead" language used. Thanks to your bible more than thanks to the Jews.

Old 'dead' languages like Latin, Ancient Greek, Hebrew make perfect 'hold places' in human languages to where one can go back and translate a later language if it can be related to an older 'dead language'.

Living languages like English are always under the pressures of change. For instance in the past 40 years we have added hundreds of words to the common everyday English with new meaning being applied to dozens if not hundreds of older words within our language.

Chip, bit, Cell, spam, etc. are examples of how our living language has transformed the meaning of words that although were common prior to the age of computers, now they have new meanings which in contrast to a document from 1940 would make no sense.

New words have emerged; cell phone, ROM, etc where in 1940 there was no meaning attached.

In future new words will emerge, old words will have their meanings changed or added to.

If one is sending a communication into an unknown future where hundreds of years of lost history may exist, then it is necessary to include a 'Rosetta Stone' with that communication.

There is a similar problem with the nuclear waste problem. while it is fine and dandy to pick a geologically stable area to bury the waste, we need to mark that area in a manner and way that will translate as 'DANGER' for thousands of years. Even if we picked an isolated area in the middle of a wasteland, Earth's climate does change, and that wasteland could be a fertile valley in 5010 well after World War 5 and the reformation of humanity after the New Dark Age where most of what we know today is forgotten. The last thing we want is some future generation digging up tones of highly radioactive waste material.

How to communicate to an uncertain future, knowing which language will survive, and even what concepts will remain roughly similar is a problem that even historians can't agree on a single solution. While its true that we humans are relearning lost things now, this may not be true for some future generation stumbling around in a man-made dark age needing hope and guidance to not make the same mistakes we made.
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Let's see if all the liberals and commie rat bastards and
stinking muslims and child molesters and faggots and
atheists and banksters and junkies would commit suicide,

How close would that get us to the goal?
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Rosetta Stone.

The designers of the Guidestones were thinking about a future where most people lost the ability to read/write for a time and a new language emerged that is based from our languages.

The Rosetta Stone [link to www.ancientegypt.co.uk] was written in three scripts. Prior to its translation we did not understand Egyptian hieroglyphics. humanity had lost the ability to read them. Thus through our ability to understand one or two languages in whole or in part, we were able to break the Egyptian language code and now we can read hieroglyphics.

Why Hebrew? Because it is the most well used ancient "dead" language used. Thanks to your bible more than thanks to the Jews.

Old 'dead' languages like Latin, Ancient Greek, Hebrew make perfect 'hold places' in human languages to where one can go back and translate a later language if it can be related to an older 'dead language'.

Living languages like English are always under the pressures of change. For instance in the past 40 years we have added hundreds of words to the common everyday English with new meaning being applied to dozens if not hundreds of older words within our language.

Chip, bit, Cell, spam, etc. are examples of how our living language has transformed the meaning of words that although were common prior to the age of computers, now they have new meanings which in contrast to a document from 1940 would make no sense.

New words have emerged; cell phone, ROM, etc where in 1940 there was no meaning attached.

In future new words will emerge, old words will have their meanings changed or added to.

If one is sending a communication into an unknown future where hundreds of years of lost history may exist, then it is necessary to include a 'Rosetta Stone' with that communication.

There is a similar problem with the nuclear waste problem. while it is fine and dandy to pick a geologically stable area to bury the waste, we need to mark that area in a manner and way that will translate as 'DANGER' for thousands of years. Even if we picked an isolated area in the middle of a wasteland, Earth's climate does change, and that wasteland could be a fertile valley in 5010 well after World War 5 and the reformation of humanity after the New Dark Age where most of what we know today is forgotten. The last thing we want is some future generation digging up tones of highly radioactive waste material.

How to communicate to an uncertain future, knowing which language will survive, and even what concepts will remain roughly similar is a problem that even historians can't agree on a single solution. While its true that we humans are relearning lost things now, this may not be true for some future generation stumbling around in a man-made dark age needing hope and guidance to not make the same mistakes we made.
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You have explained this so well, that it sounds as if you may have been in London in 1969. Is it possible that you and I were colleagues back then?
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You have explained this so well, that it sounds as if you may have been in London in 1969. Is it possible that you and I were colleagues back then?
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68-70 I was in Germany and France.
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just curious Canada

were the Georgia Guidestones created in response to the possibility of catastrophe or are they there to remind us to prevent future catastrophes?

was there an imminent reason at the time? and please, where did the population figure of 500 million come from - how was this figure arrived at and how was it supposed to be achieved? seems like we have well passed that possibility now and into the future.

And why there?

thanks in advance




This wonderful monument results from thinking that took place in London in the late 1960's and .. all in all we did a pretty good job of it, I think.

Canada - Just really curious here, and have a few questions.

1. What would you say your odds are on being one of the 12 who successfully 'make it' to being one of the 500 million allowed to survive?

2. (Since your odds arent very good) How do you think you'll be eliminated?

Zero, as are yours. I will die of old age. Depending on your age now, you too may also.
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I want to know why is Hebrew put in those 8 languages? there is much more German speaking people then Hebrew...how manny 15 million of them?
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Not the chosen ones. Neither are those who speak (spoke) Gaelic. etc.
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This wonderful monument results from thinking that took place in London in the late 1960's and .. all in all we did a pretty good job of it, I think.

Canada - Just really curious here, and have a few questions.

1. What would you say your odds are on being one of the 12 who successfully 'make it' to being one of the 500 million allowed to survive?

2. (Since your odds arent very good) How do you think you'll be eliminated?
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Why do you think that folk must be killed in order for that first rule to be achieved?

the second rule lays out a plan on how to achieve the first, thoughtful and reasoned procreation.

We all die - eventually. Even if everyone on earth lived to be 90+, through reasoned, rational procreation we could reduce our numbers to 500 million in a generation without having to kill anyone or deny anyone health care.

The assumption that people must be killed to reach the population of 500 million is something in your own mind, no where do the guidestones promote killing, however they do promote reasoned, thoughtful approaches to procreation where we would remove defects of our genetic code simply by not breeding them into the next generation.
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"Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15, NKJV).
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German isn't on them because the stones were put there by jews, and they hate Germans.
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isnt selective breeding a little ... arrogant? isnt mass sterilisation a little inhumane? are we animals?


This wonderful monument results from thinking that took place in London in the late 1960's and .. all in all we did a pretty good job of it, I think.

Canada - Just really curious here, and have a few questions.

1. What would you say your odds are on being one of the 12 who successfully 'make it' to being one of the 500 million allowed to survive?

2. (Since your odds arent very good) How do you think you'll be eliminated?


Why do you think that folk must be killed in order for that first rule to be achieved?

the second rule lays out a plan on how to achieve the first, thoughtful and reasoned procreation.

We all die - eventually. Even if everyone on earth lived to be 90+, through reasoned, rational procreation we could reduce our numbers to 500 million in a generation without having to kill anyone or deny anyone health care.

The assumption that people must be killed to reach the population of 500 million is something in your own mind, no where do the guidestones promote killing, however they do promote reasoned, thoughtful approaches to procreation where we would remove defects of our genetic code simply by not breeding them into the next generation.
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isnt selective breeding a little ... arrogant? isnt mass sterilisation a little inhumane? are we animals?


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The spouse and I both come from family lines that are, albeit very long lived, also susceptible to diabetes, epilepsy, blindness (early onset around age 50) and a few other issues that are either debilitating or cause undo suffering.

The risks of passing on a genetically linked disorder to our children is pretty high. Considering these potentials we decided that it would be morally and ethically wrong to procreate and pass on ailments and temperaments into an innocent child.

No one held a gun to our heads, no one paid us, no one told is we had to make this choice. We did it of our own free accord simply because we are both educated enough to take hereditary conditions as part of our procreation plan.

While a decent chunk of the human population would, even if educated, decide to selfishly have children regardless of their genetic inheritance that they would pass on, I suspect that if more people - reasoning people, understood exactly what they potentially were passing on to their children they would 'opt out' of procreation.

Here is the complete list of Genetically Linked Disorders:

[link to www.ask.com]

There are hundreds of ailments - common ailments that we as a species could remove from our species just by carefully NOT having a child.

There are around 7 billion human beings on earth.

Earth can only feed between 500 million to one billion people Naturally.

Naturally means without artificial irrigation, without chemical fertilizers, without pesticides and herbicides, without changing soil chemistries even through such organic (safe) practices like using compost.

On one hand we complain about Genetically Modified Foods, yet on the other 'natural' seeds can no longer meet the challenge of feeding billions of people.

We complain because corals are dying off from high amounts of nitrogen from fertilizers in farm rain run-off.

We complain about the cost of shipping food around the world, we complain and complain yet we simply appear to not understand that 7 billion, 8 billion, 10 billion people will require these strange artificial technologies just to raise enough food to give everyone a minimum 2000 calories a day.

Most of our world's current woes, from the mounting energy crises to the coming food shortages is due to there just being too many people.

Our choices are simple:

Either we choose to not have children, or the world will go up in a ball of fire as wars, diseases, starvation, thirst cull our numbers for us.


We are the first species on this planet that could elect to prevent a major population implosion by simply thinking before we have a kid.

Yet we refuse to do this decrying any logical approach that would reduce the amount of suffering in our species.
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It's silly to base future predictions on false facts of the physical dimension. Who's to say that humanity as a species cannot change into a physical form that is "less needy"? And there you are, a soul/spirit/physical body that gets to forever into infinity shoulder the guilt of intruding on others. You can only take responsibility for yourself. There is no other choice for truth.
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500,000/8=62,500 per language group in areas of highest survival probability
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Let's see if all the liberals and commie rat bastards and
stinking muslims and child molesters and faggots and
atheists and banksters and junkies would commit suicide,

How close would that get us to the goal?
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I would be the last man on earth then.. (does being a major stoner count as being a non junkie?)

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