DRUDGE: Man brings legal hand guns to NJ gets seven years in jail.

How do you get them home?

Look at the asshole below who thinks this guy actually deserves to spend the next 7 years of his life in jail for not being an expert on New Jersey's gun laws...


He also was charged with having "large capacity" magazines and hollow-point bullets, which one state gun-control advocate found troubling.

"What little I can glean about the transportation issue leaves me puzzled, but a person with common sense would not be moving illegal products from one place to another by car," said Bryan Miller, executive director of CeaseFire NJ, an organization devoted to reducing gun violence.

"If Mr. Aitken did the research he said he did, he would not have hollow-point bullets and large-capacity magazines in the vehicle," Miller said. "They are illegal, period."

His case will be overturned on appeal once the Heller and McDonald cases area applied.

The people in the guns are a crime states need to get off your asses and do something about your laws. This is ridiculous.

Thats fricken bullshit!!!!!

No offense meant, I'm just saying, those are REALLY Oppressive laws.

What is wrong with people. He asked the state police they said keep it locked and unloaded that's what he did. They just leave out the part about all the other BS laws.


I wanted to buy a Siaga .223 It took me months to find out if I could, because an AK is illegal in NJ. The Law actually states that any gun that looks like an AK shall be considered illegal. It's such a gray area it's ridiculous.

In NJ you can have a gun with no stock or with a stock but not a folding stock. Where is the logic.
Shall not be infringed my ass.

When we moved from WV, we actually called the state police to verify what we could and could not bring.

We had to leave the SKS, if I recall. Also the magazines and hollow points could not come with us for sure.

Since the handguns were not bought in NJ, they had to be unloaded and in the trunk with no ammo, and can never be carried outside our house in any capacity.

I THINK that's all correct - hubby would know better than me. The state trooper was very helpful and put me at ease because I was imagining huge problems.

ETA:

I'm going to review what exactly we had to leave and bring according to the SP and get back to y'all. I'm not sure if we were restricted because it was a rifle or becaus eit was an assault rifle.

Last Edited by SaltWaterTaffy on 11/30/2010 04:28 PM

One step closer to the NWO, take the guns out of the owners hands, and place the owners in jail, for LEGALLY possessing handweapons. That way we cant defend ourselves against TPTB when they all come knocking on our doors to round up citizens and put them in the FEMA camps

I own hollow point ammo in NJ. Bought legally in a store. Two cops tell me I can't have it. How did I buy it then? State trooper says You can buy it but you can't use or posses it. I'm serious. Later I find out it can only be possessed at your home.

Fuck NJ

Wow. So then technically we could have brought the hollow points with us from West Virginia, lol.

The first cop we talked to told us it's so tricky we might want to call a lawyer!

You can have an SKS but it can't have a detachable mag, not even 5 rounds. Which is stupid because the stripper clips are easier than changing the mag.

Hello,

I thought cruel and unusual punishment was illegal (a crime committed by criminals) . . .

No, because technically you could get arrested bringing them home from store. You cannot have them outside your house. How stupid is that.

That is stupid. It sounds like a 'grandfather clause'.

My kids - raised in WV until now - are confounded by the laws NJ.

My 11 year old said "Why is everyone in New Jersey so scared of everything? They are even scared of gas pumps here!"

Ha Ha. Did you ever get a firearms ID card?


I heard a story about a guy who worked in a bad area of NJ, had legally bought a handgun, was scared so he kept it in the glove box. His car got towed one day and he was afraid someone would steal the gun. So he told the cop he had it and went to jail and now can't buy guns anymore.

Last Edited by Munsoned on 11/30/2010 04:54 PM

Hubby went through the whole shebang with the requirements, not sure what it entailed but if we needed an ID card he got one.

I believe that the gist of the whole thing was since we bought them before we were residents and bought them in another state, all we had to do was only bring the ones that are legal to possess inside our home and keep them in our home.

all of those laws are unconstitutional.

Yes you can bring them from out of state just don't ever transport them without that F.I.D. card.

Welcome to NJ.

in a truly free country, there should be no law that begins "possession of...".

Garden State BUMP!

Dont use hollow point ammo cause we like it when FMJ's go through the perp and the wall behind him and kill the old lady in the rocking chair next door. No offense OP but you live in a state full of fucking idiots,(at least at the governmental level) i mean for christ's sake, if i remember correctly,slingshots are illegal in NJ.

Last Edited by Trench on 11/30/2010 09:27 PM

+1

Lots of shit getting fucking ridiculous here in the good old U S of A these days.

That's the law in NJ!

The only people I know of that get a free pass are reenactors.

Wow, people still live in that shithole? High taxes and oppressive laws.

I got a job offer there for twice what I get paid now (I'm an engineer). I turned it down, and then they offered me 2 and half more and I still turned it down. I told them why, I would not live in that state due to things like this.

NJ is paying a high price for their stupidity, if people would just refuse to work and live there, they'd quickly find themselves paying a premium to attract a viable tax base.

2C:39-3. Prohibited Weapons and Devices.



a. Destructive devices. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any destructive device is guilty of a crime of the third degree.

b. Sawed-off shotguns. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any sawed-off shotgun is guilty of a crime of the third degree.

c. Silencers. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any firearm silencer is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.

d. Defaced firearms. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any firearm which has been defaced, except an antique firearm or an antique handgun, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.

e. Certain weapons. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any gravity knife, switchblade knife, dagger, dirk, stiletto, billy, blackjack, metal knuckle, sandclub, slingshot, cestus or similar leather band studded with metal filings or razor blades imbedded in wood, ballistic knife, without any explainable lawful purpose, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.

f. Dum-dum or body armor penetrating bullets. (1) Any person, other than a law enforcement officer or persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6, who knowingly has in his possession any hollow nose or dum-dum bullet, or (2) any person, other than a collector of firearms or ammunition as curios or relics as defined in Title 18, United States Code, section 921 (a) (13) and has in his possession a valid Collector of Curios and Relics License issued by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, who knowingly has in his possession any body armor breaching or penetrating ammunition, which means: (a) ammunition primarily designed for use in a handgun, and (b) which is comprised of a bullet whose core or jacket, if the jacket is thicker than.025 of an inch, is made of tungsten carbide, or hard bronze, or other material which is harder than a rating of 72 or greater on the Rockwell B. Hardness Scale, and (c) is therefore capable of breaching or penetrating body armor, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. For purposes of this section, a collector may possess not more than three examples of each distinctive variation of the ammunition described above. A distinctive variation includes a different head stamp, composition, design, or color.

g. Exceptions. (1) Nothing in subsection a., b., c., d., e., f., j. or k. of this section shall apply to any member of the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard, or except as otherwise provided, to any law enforcement officer while actually on duty or traveling to or from an authorized place of duty, provided that his possession of the prohibited weapon or device has been duly authorized under the applicable laws, regulations or military or law enforcement orders. Nothing in subsection h. of this section shall apply to any law enforcement officer who is exempted from the provisions of that subsection by the Attorney General. Nothing in this section shall apply to the possession of any weapon or device by a law enforcement officer who has confiscated, seized or otherwise taken possession of said weapon or device as evidence of the commission of a crime or because he believed it to be possessed illegally by the person from whom it was taken, provided that said law enforcement officer promptly notifies his superiors of his possession of such prohibited weapon or device.

(2) a. Nothing in subsection f. (1) shall be construed to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carrying such ammunition from the place of purchase to said dwelling or land, nor shall subsection f. (1) be construed to prevent any licensed retail or wholesale firearms dealer from possessing such ammunition at its licensed premises, provided that the seller of any such ammunition shall maintain a record of the name, age and place of residence of any purchaser who is not a licensed dealer, together with the date of sale and quantity of ammunition sold.

b. Nothing in subsection f.(1) shall be construed to prevent a designated employee or designated licensed agent for a nuclear power plant under the license of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission from possessing hollow nose ammunition while in the actual performance of his official duties, if the federal licensee certifies that the designated employee or designated licensed agent is assigned to perform site protection, guard, armed response or armed escort duties and is appropriately trained and qualified, as prescribed by federal regulation, to perform those duties.

(3) Nothing in paragraph (2) of subsection f. or in subsection j. shall be construed to prevent any licensed retail or wholesale firearms dealer from possessing that ammunition or large capacity ammunition magazine at its licensed premises for sale or disposition to another licensed dealer, the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard, or to a law enforcement agency, provided that the seller maintains a record of any sale or disposition to a law enforcement agency. The record shall include the name of the purchasing agency, together with written authorization of the chief of police or highest ranking official of the agency, the name and rank of the purchasing law enforcement officer, if applicable, and the date, time and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise disposed. A copy of this record shall be forwarded by the seller to the Superintendent of the Division of State Police within 48 hours of the sale or disposition.

(4) Nothing in subsection a. of this section shall be construed to apply to antique cannons as exempted in subsection d. of N.J.S.2C:39-6.

(5) Nothing in subsection c. of this section shall be construed to apply to any person who is specifically identified in a special deer management permit issued by the Division of Fish and Wildlife to utilize a firearm silencer as part of an alternative deer control method implemented in accordance with a special deer management permit issued pursuant to section 4 of P.L.2000, c.46 (C.23:4-42.6), while the person is in the actual performance of the permitted alternative deer control method and while going to and from the place where the permitted alternative deer control method is being utilized. This exception shall not, however, otherwise apply to any person to authorize the purchase or possession of a firearm silencer.

h. Stun guns. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any stun gun is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.

i. Nothing in subsection e. of this section shall be construed to prevent any guard in the employ of a private security company, who is licensed to carry a firearm, from the possession of a nightstick when in the actual performance of his official duties, provided that he has satisfactorily completed a training course approved by the Police Training Commission in the use of a nightstick.

j. Any person who knowingly has in his possession a large capacity ammunition magazine is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree unless the person has registered an assault firearm pursuant to section 11 of P.L.1990, c.32 (C.2C:58-12) and the magazine is maintained and used in connection with participation in competitive shooting matches sanctioned by the Director of Civilian Marksmanship of the United States Department of the Army.

k. Handcuffs. Any person who knowingly has in his possession handcuffs as defined in P.L.1991, c.437 (C.2C:39-9.2), under circumstances not manifestly appropriate for such lawful uses as handcuffs may have, is guilty of a disorderly persons offense. A law enforcement officer shall confiscate handcuffs possessed in violation of the law.
Amended 1979, c.179, s.2; 1983, c.58, s.1; 1983, c.479, s.2; 1985, c.360, s.2; 1987, c.228, s.2; 1989, c.11; 1990, c.32, s.10; 1991, c.437, s.1; 1999, c.233, s.2; 2000, c.46, s.5; 2003, c.168, s.1.

One visit here would have solved a whole heap of problems:

[link to www.handgunlaw.us]

Trench imagine having to have a federal ID card to buy a BB gun. Jersey sucks ass crack.

Good for you, I'm out as soon as possible, I'd be in FLA if it weren't for BP.

By the looks of it NJ has outlawed just about everything tool/weapon wise that would allow you to survive in the event of emergency/disaster. FED ID for BB gun is just straight up bullshit