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17,208 Silver Contracts have to be delivered In December!! That's 86 Million Ounces!!

 
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17,208 Silver Contracts have to be delivered In December!! That's 86 Million Ounces!!
How much silver and gold are in fact waiting for a physical delivery in Dec 2010?

If no owner of Dec 2010 Silver Futures change his mind and don’t settle contracts for cash by the end of Dec 2010, then 17,208 contracts have to be delivered.

As a comparison, in last delivery month for silver in Sep 2010, this figure on a day before First Notice Day on Aug 30th 2010, was 3,002 contracts.

Since each contract is for 5,000 ounces of silver this means that Comex dealers should deliver by the end of Dec 2010 exactly 86.04 million ounces of PHYSICAL silver (compared to 2,519 contracts = 12.595 million ounces of silver delivered in Sep 2010).

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they gonna default!!
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How much silver and gold are in fact waiting for a physical delivery in Dec 2010?

If no owner of Dec 2010 Silver Futures change his mind and don’t settle contracts for cash by the end of Dec 2010, then 17,208 contracts have to be delivered.

As a comparison, in last delivery month for silver in Sep 2010, this figure on a day before First Notice Day on Aug 30th 2010, was 3,002 contracts.

Since each contract is for 5,000 ounces of silver this means that Comex dealers should deliver by the end of Dec 2010 exactly 86.04 million ounces of PHYSICAL silver (compared to 2,519 contracts = 12.595 million ounces of silver delivered in Sep 2010).

[link to agaupm.com]
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I don't think they are going to be able to do it....

This should be interesting. :)
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Re: 17,208 Silver Contracts have to be delivered In December!! That's 86 Million Ounces!!
How much silver and gold are in fact waiting for a physical delivery in Dec 2010?

If no owner of Dec 2010 Silver Futures change his mind and don’t settle contracts for cash by the end of Dec 2010, then 17,208 contracts have to be delivered.

As a comparison, in last delivery month for silver in Sep 2010, this figure on a day before First Notice Day on Aug 30th 2010, was 3,002 contracts.

Since each contract is for 5,000 ounces of silver this means that Comex dealers should deliver by the end of Dec 2010 exactly 86.04 million ounces of PHYSICAL silver (compared to 2,519 contracts = 12.595 million ounces of silver delivered in Sep 2010).

[link to agaupm.com]
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The open interest for the spot month typically declines sharply prior to the last trade date. There is still a month in which to close out the trade.
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People post this stuff without really knowing what they are talking about. Most contracts roll over. I do think silver moves up from here, but this posting is without merit really.....
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Re: 17,208 Silver Contracts have to be delivered In December!! That's 86 Million Ounces!!
How much silver and gold are in fact waiting for a physical delivery in Dec 2010?

If no owner of Dec 2010 Silver Futures change his mind and don’t settle contracts for cash by the end of Dec 2010, then 17,208 contracts have to be delivered.

As a comparison, in last delivery month for silver in Sep 2010, this figure on a day before First Notice Day on Aug 30th 2010, was 3,002 contracts.

Since each contract is for 5,000 ounces of silver this means that Comex dealers should deliver by the end of Dec 2010 exactly 86.04 million ounces of PHYSICAL silver (compared to 2,519 contracts = 12.595 million ounces of silver delivered in Sep 2010).

[link to agaupm.com]


The open interest for the spot month typically declines sharply prior to the last trade date. There is still a month in which to close out the trade.
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if even 70-80% demand delivery they still wouldnt be able to meet the demand. comex is fucked!!
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People post this stuff without really knowing what they are talking about. Most contracts roll over. I do think silver moves up from here, but this posting is without merit really.....
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By numbers that we’re having today, we see that roll over of Dec 2010 silver futures contracts into Mar 2011 has indeed happened on Nov 26th 2010 but still, open interest numbers are more or less the same.

This means that buyers of silver futures are NOT selling contracts but are either standing for delivery of physical silver in Dec 2010 or waiting for delivery in Mar 2011.

Either way, Comex dealers failed to convince silver futures buyers to sell their silver futures contracts for cash
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How much silver and gold are in fact waiting for a physical delivery in Dec 2010?

If no owner of Dec 2010 Silver Futures change his mind and don’t settle contracts for cash by the end of Dec 2010, then 17,208 contracts have to be delivered.

As a comparison, in last delivery month for silver in Sep 2010, this figure on a day before First Notice Day on Aug 30th 2010, was 3,002 contracts.

Since each contract is for 5,000 ounces of silver this means that Comex dealers should deliver by the end of Dec 2010 exactly 86.04 million ounces of PHYSICAL silver (compared to 2,519 contracts = 12.595 million ounces of silver delivered in Sep 2010).

[link to agaupm.com]


The open interest for the spot month typically declines sharply prior to the last trade date. There is still a month in which to close out the trade.


if even 70-80% demand delivery they still wouldnt be able to meet the demand. comex is fucked!!
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70-80 percent won't demand delivery.
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they gonna default!!
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No they won't they will simply manipulate the makets and pull both Metals "Gold and Silver" backwards - so that they can meet the demand.

It will be a win win - once again for them!
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Re: 17,208 Silver Contracts have to be delivered In December!! That's 86 Million Ounces!!
How much silver and gold are in fact waiting for a physical delivery in Dec 2010?

If no owner of Dec 2010 Silver Futures change his mind and don’t settle contracts for cash by the end of Dec 2010, then 17,208 contracts have to be delivered.

As a comparison, in last delivery month for silver in Sep 2010, this figure on a day before First Notice Day on Aug 30th 2010, was 3,002 contracts.

Since each contract is for 5,000 ounces of silver this means that Comex dealers should deliver by the end of Dec 2010 exactly 86.04 million ounces of PHYSICAL silver (compared to 2,519 contracts = 12.595 million ounces of silver delivered in Sep 2010).

[link to agaupm.com]


The open interest for the spot month typically declines sharply prior to the last trade date. There is still a month in which to close out the trade.


if even 70-80% demand delivery they still wouldnt be able to meet the demand. comex is fucked!!


70-80 percent won't demand delivery.
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okay even half is a good possibility
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How much silver and gold are in fact waiting for a physical delivery in Dec 2010?

If no owner of Dec 2010 Silver Futures change his mind and don’t settle contracts for cash by the end of Dec 2010, then 17,208 contracts have to be delivered.

As a comparison, in last delivery month for silver in Sep 2010, this figure on a day before First Notice Day on Aug 30th 2010, was 3,002 contracts.

Since each contract is for 5,000 ounces of silver this means that Comex dealers should deliver by the end of Dec 2010 exactly 86.04 million ounces of PHYSICAL silver (compared to 2,519 contracts = 12.595 million ounces of silver delivered in Sep 2010).

[link to agaupm.com]
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5a
Unless I am sorely mistaken I believe the Comex Contract includes a clause to pay the contract holder IN CASH if it is unable to deliver the SILVER. In this way they technically escape default.
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People post this stuff without really knowing what they are talking about. Most contracts roll over. I do think silver moves up from here, but this posting is without merit really.....
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please explain?
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Sounds like the Hunt brothers all over again.
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How much silver and gold are in fact waiting for a physical delivery in Dec 2010?

If no owner of Dec 2010 Silver Futures change his mind and don’t settle contracts for cash by the end of Dec 2010, then 17,208 contracts have to be delivered.

As a comparison, in last delivery month for silver in Sep 2010, this figure on a day before First Notice Day on Aug 30th 2010, was 3,002 contracts.

Since each contract is for 5,000 ounces of silver this means that Comex dealers should deliver by the end of Dec 2010 exactly 86.04 million ounces of PHYSICAL silver (compared to 2,519 contracts = 12.595 million ounces of silver delivered in Sep 2010).

[link to agaupm.com]

5a
Unless I am sorely mistaken I believe the Comex Contract includes a clause to pay the contract holder IN CASH if it is unable to deliver the SILVER. In this way they technically escape default.
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you can only payoff so many.. Silver buyers know why they buy silver . I have a gut feeling lots of them will say "no thanks" to the fiat and demand they come up with the physical
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banana2 woohoo
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How much silver and gold are in fact waiting for a physical delivery in Dec 2010?

If no owner of Dec 2010 Silver Futures change his mind and don’t settle contracts for cash by the end of Dec 2010, then 17,208 contracts have to be delivered.

As a comparison, in last delivery month for silver in Sep 2010, this figure on a day before First Notice Day on Aug 30th 2010, was 3,002 contracts.

Since each contract is for 5,000 ounces of silver this means that Comex dealers should deliver by the end of Dec 2010 exactly 86.04 million ounces of PHYSICAL silver (compared to 2,519 contracts = 12.595 million ounces of silver delivered in Sep 2010).

[link to agaupm.com]


The open interest for the spot month typically declines sharply prior to the last trade date. There is still a month in which to close out the trade.


if even 70-80% demand delivery they still wouldnt be able to meet the demand. comex is fucked!!


70-80 percent won't demand delivery.


okay even half is a good possibility
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the number is typically 2%. So unless you have some other information....like some entity with very deep pockets that is saying they're in the market for delivery, this is a non event.
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How much silver and gold are in fact waiting for a physical delivery in Dec 2010?

If no owner of Dec 2010 Silver Futures change his mind and don’t settle contracts for cash by the end of Dec 2010, then 17,208 contracts have to be delivered.

As a comparison, in last delivery month for silver in Sep 2010, this figure on a day before First Notice Day on Aug 30th 2010, was 3,002 contracts.

Since each contract is for 5,000 ounces of silver this means that Comex dealers should deliver by the end of Dec 2010 exactly 86.04 million ounces of PHYSICAL silver (compared to 2,519 contracts = 12.595 million ounces of silver delivered in Sep 2010).

[link to agaupm.com]


The open interest for the spot month typically declines sharply prior to the last trade date. There is still a month in which to close out the trade.


if even 70-80% demand delivery they still wouldnt be able to meet the demand. comex is fucked!!


70-80 percent won't demand delivery.


okay even half is a good possibility


the number is typically 2%. So unless you have some other information....like some entity with very deep pockets that is saying they're in the market for delivery, this is a non event.
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2%? hahaha not this time. the sharks smell blood thats why there such a huge increase in contracts
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Just wait till more people realize they don't have enough silver to cover what they put out there.
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How much silver and gold are in fact waiting for a physical delivery in Dec 2010?

If no owner of Dec 2010 Silver Futures change his mind and don’t settle contracts for cash by the end of Dec 2010, then 17,208 contracts have to be delivered.

As a comparison, in last delivery month for silver in Sep 2010, this figure on a day before First Notice Day on Aug 30th 2010, was 3,002 contracts.

Since each contract is for 5,000 ounces of silver this means that Comex dealers should deliver by the end of Dec 2010 exactly 86.04 million ounces of PHYSICAL silver (compared to 2,519 contracts = 12.595 million ounces of silver delivered in Sep 2010).

[link to agaupm.com]


The open interest for the spot month typically declines sharply prior to the last trade date. There is still a month in which to close out the trade.


if even 70-80% demand delivery they still wouldnt be able to meet the demand. comex is fucked!!


70-80 percent won't demand delivery.


okay even half is a good possibility


the number is typically 2%. So unless you have some other information....like some entity with very deep pockets that is saying they're in the market for delivery, this is a non event.


2%? hahaha not this time. the sharks smell blood thats why there such a huge increase in contracts
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I think the haha would be on anyone in the market trying to precipitate a short squeeze, because they'd just change the rules and declare a force majeur and settle the contracts in cash....SOP.
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Just wait till more people realize they don't have enough silver to cover what they put out there.
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sit back and enjoy the fireworks and grab the last of the silver thats available
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How much silver and gold are in fact waiting for a physical delivery in Dec 2010?

If no owner of Dec 2010 Silver Futures change his mind and don’t settle contracts for cash by the end of Dec 2010, then 17,208 contracts have to be delivered.

As a comparison, in last delivery month for silver in Sep 2010, this figure on a day before First Notice Day on Aug 30th 2010, was 3,002 contracts.

Since each contract is for 5,000 ounces of silver this means that Comex dealers should deliver by the end of Dec 2010 exactly 86.04 million ounces of PHYSICAL silver (compared to 2,519 contracts = 12.595 million ounces of silver delivered in Sep 2010).

[link to agaupm.com]

5a
Unless I am sorely mistaken I believe the Comex Contract includes a clause to pay the contract holder IN CASH if it is unable to deliver the SILVER. In this way they technically escape default.


you can only payoff so many.. Silver buyers know why they buy silver . I have a gut feeling lots of them will say "no thanks" to the fiat and demand they come up with the physical
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I do not think the contract holder has a choice all the exchange has to do is provide equal current value in currency at the time the contract is due. The Exchange may have to jump through some hoops to do so but they are all rigged anyway.
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Just wait till more people realize they don't have enough silver to cover what they put out there.


sit back and enjoy the fireworks and grab the last of the silver thats available
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I got my stash.

It's a shame people don't listen years ago to the logic that we being dropped on them!

It's not hard to see the future when you step back, but most people are too concerned about the next minute.
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The Curious Case For $936 Ounce Silver = [link to www.youtube.com]
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The Curious Case For $936 Ounce Silver = [link to www.youtube.com]
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lot higher than that since we are running out of silver on earth...
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lot higher than that since we are running out of silver on earth...
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Silver is more useful than gold
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Again. Paul Drockton gets it right!
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What determines Price? According to Adam Smith, it is the "invisible hand" of the marketplace. Price is where Supply meets Demand. So what happens when you manipulate Supply or Demand? You control the Price. It really is that simple. The fact of the matte is, that we will shortly witness the "Great Disappearing Silver" caper of 2010.

This will shortly occur when 100% of the silver that only exists on paper disappears from the marketplace. Yes, the Banksters have once more proven that fractional reserve lending has more than one useful application. It is always in their best interest to suppress metals prices as long as we continue to use their worthless paper as currency.

"Nelson Bunker Hunt and Herbert Hunt, the sons of Texas oil billionaire Haroldson Lafayette Hunt, Jr., had for some time been attempting to corner the market in silver. In 1979, the price of silver jumped from $6/oz to an all-time record high of $48.70/oz. The brothers were estimated to hold one third of the entire world supply of silver (other than that held by governments). The situation for other prospective purchasers of silver was so dire that the jeweller Tiffanys took out a full page ad in the New York Times, condemning the Hunt Brothers and stating We think it is unconscionable for anyone to hoard several billion, yes billion, dollars worth of silver and thus drive the price up so high that others must pay artificially high prices for articles made of silver. (Source)

Back then, things were so much easier. For a few billion dollars, the Hunt brothers were able to bring the silver market to its knees. They did this through selling futures on their actual silver holdings, and using borrowed money to buy additional futures contracts. In other words, the Hunt Brothers were heavily leveraged and became easy targets for those that wanted precious metals prices to remain low.

But on January 7 1980, in response to the Hunt's accumulation, the exchange rules regarding leverage were changed, when Comex adopted 'Silver Rule 7' placing heavy restrictions on the purchase of commodities on margin. The Hunt brothers had borrowed heavily to finance their purchases, and as the price began to fall again, dropping over 50% in just four days, they were unable to meet their obligations, causing panic in the markets." (Ibid)

If it sounds similar to the stock market crash of 1929, where borrowed money, or margin, was also removed from the market by the Banksters, then we are all making progress in our understanding. Borrowed money is never a good investment tool. The Banksters just raise rates or increase margin requirements and the whole overinflated scheme comes crashing down, like it did with the Hunt Brothers.

With the Hunt Brothers, the Banksters raised credit requirements for investors in the silver futures market. The silver was real, but the money was fake. Take all that fake (borrowed) money out of the market, and the price of silver falls. The Hunt Brothers had created artificial demand (much higher than actually existed) for silver, and price responded by going through the roof.

Today we have a totally different problem. Through the use of silver derivatives (Options), the Banksters have created a huge supply of silver that only exists on paper. This worthless paper is traded just like the real thing in the Options and Futures markets. By trading this non-existant silver, the Banksters can control price by inflating Supply. It is estimated that for every real ounce of silver out there, there are 100 paper ounces being trading in the Options market.

It isn't rocket science.

"In April 2007, Commitments of Traders Report showed that four or fewer traders held 90% of all short silver futures contracts totalling 245 million troy ounces, which is equivalent to 140 days of production. According to Ted Butler, one of these banks with large silver shorts, JPMorgan Chase, is also the custodian of the SLV silver ETF. Some silver analysis have pointed to a potential conflict of interest, as close scrutiny of Comex documents reveals that ETF shares may be used to "cover" Comex physical metal deliveries. This led analysts to speculate that some stores of silver have multiple claims upon them. On 25 September 2008 the CFTC relented and probed the silver market after persistent complaints of foul play.On September 1, 2010, Bloomberg reported that JPMorgan Chase will be closing their Proprietary Trading Desk." (Source)

Now, in a few weeks, this massive financial fraud will reveal itself when real silver investors take possession of real silver and refuse to sell any new futures contracts against the silver they already own. When 99% of the silver that only exists on paper is vanquished from the marketplace, which will take place after this coming election, silver prices will correct to their real value. That means a $29 ounce of silver will be worth $2900. Do the math.

Add to that a collapsing economy, hyperinflation, stock market collapse and a worthless dollar and silver bullion will quickly be bought up by those smart enough to understand the implications of this article. When prices start moving up dramatically, Bullion Operations and Sales will cease and price will move into the stratosphere.
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Drockton:
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Back then, things were so much easier. For a few billion dollars, the Hunt brothers were able to bring the silver market to its knees. They did this through selling futures on their actual silver holdings, and using borrowed money to buy additional futures contracts. In other words, the Hunt Brothers were heavily leveraged and became easy targets for those that wanted precious metals prices to remain low.

But on January 7 1980, in response to the Hunt's accumulation, the exchange rules regarding leverage were changed, when Comex adopted 'Silver Rule 7' placing heavy restrictions on the purchase of commodities on margin. The Hunt brothers had borrowed heavily to finance their purchases, and as the price began to fall again, dropping over 50% in just four days, they were unable to meet their obligations, causing panic in the markets." (Ibid)

If it sounds similar to the stock market crash of 1929, where borrowed money, or margin, was also removed from the market by the Banksters, then we are all making progress in our understanding. Borrowed money is never a good investment tool. The Banksters just raise rates or increase margin requirements and the whole overinflated scheme comes crashing down, like it did with the Hunt Brothers.

With the Hunt Brothers, the Banksters raised credit requirements for investors in the silver futures market. The silver was real, but the money was fake. Take all that fake (borrowed) money out of the market, and the price of silver falls. The Hunt Brothers had created artificial demand (much higher than actually existed) for silver, and price responded by going through the roof.

Today we have a totally different problem. Through the use of silver derivatives (Options), the Banksters have created a huge supply of silver that only exists on paper. This worthless paper is traded just like the real thing in the Options and Futures markets. By trading this non-existant silver, the Banksters can control price by inflating Supply. It is estimated that for every real ounce of silver out there, there are 100 paper ounces being trading in the Options market.





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