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DMT: Spirit Molecule NEW MOVIE FINALLY RELEASED

 
Thelemic Messiah

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Wow, some experts here....

If I had a really horrifying experience with salvia, is it likely to happen again with DMT?
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They're different. I personally don't like salvia, but I have friends and associates that swear by it. I vastly prefer DMT.

There's only one way to find out, isn't there?
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Wow, some experts here....

If I had a really horrifying experience with salvia, is it likely to happen again with DMT?


They're different. I personally don't like salvia, but I have friends and associates that swear by it. I vastly prefer DMT.

There's only one way to find out, isn't there?
 Quoting: Thelemic Messiah

Yes, indeed.

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I vastly prefer DMT.


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Wow, some experts here....

If I had a really horrifying experience with salvia, is it likely to happen again with DMT?
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Be glad you didn't smoke the pure isolate.

damned
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Use of drugs to force psycho-spiritual experiences is DESTRUCTIVE to the human spirit.

You need to be able to handle what is "out there" and be able to understand it. Otherwise you don't grow from the experience.

Treating the subject of altered states of consciousness as though it were some kind of computer game that you can always leave is:

STUPID
SPIRITUALLY DESTRUCTIVE
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Who said anything about a game? Jeesh, youngsters these days...

Realizing that you are "GOD" and we all are "GOD" ... not to mention all of creation experiencing itself is: "SPIRITUALLY DESTRUCTIVE" ?

Okay


norespect


Sure it's overwhelming but come on now. Seems like pure Spirit to me. The Great Spirit. Some like to call it God, Allah and other names. It's all the same thing... everywhere.

I am THAT I am

When you realize that for yourself and how how real it is, far more real then our "normal" everyday reality, you might retract those comments and feelings.

See for yourself
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Wow, some experts here....

If I had a really horrifying experience with salvia, is it likely to happen again with DMT?


Are you at peace with yourself, or is there a war within?

War is a safe bet.

Other hallucinogens seem to give me hope and take away sadness. But not this one. Very very dark.
 Quoting: fleshette


I would not recommend either to anyone who has had a dark experience. This is why I turned away from all of that. Also, it's not at all the same as a concious spiritual revelation. I don't know. I'm always fascinated by the possibilites and my previous experiences... but some doors are meant to be opened naturally in our own time. Not a big fan of forcing it...
"Today young men on acid realized all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration... that we are all one conciousness experiencing ourselves subjectively.
There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.
...Here's Tom with the weather"

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Though, let's just say.. if I ever were to make another journey of that sort, I would go with DMT...... lol. So I guess that is a good indicator.

People just really need to be aware of what we can manifest and once a discovery is made, it cannot be undone.

I know too many people that took such an intense experimentation much too lightly and are paying for it dearly. :(
hf
"Today young men on acid realized all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration... that we are all one conciousness experiencing ourselves subjectively.
There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.
...Here's Tom with the weather"

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Though, let's just say.. if I ever were to make another journey of that sort,
hf
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Is less of a journey and more of a rocket blast.
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Wow, some experts here....

If I had a really horrifying experience with salvia, is it likely to happen again with DMT?
 Quoting: fleshette


Would you please share your salvia experience? I have done alot of research about that particular compound....I'd be most appreciative! hf

It's pretty fascinating that they cannot really correlate it's brain effects. Absolutely no classification for what it actually does.....
"Today young men on acid realized all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration... that we are all one conciousness experiencing ourselves subjectively.
There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.
...Here's Tom with the weather"

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Though, let's just say.. if I ever were to make another journey of that sort, I would go with DMT...... lol. So I guess that is a good indicator.

People just really need to be aware of what we can manifest and once a discovery is made, it cannot be undone.

I know too many people that took such an intense experimentation much too lightly and are paying for it dearly. :(
hf
 Quoting: Opeth



Thinking back on the experience, I had a bad injury and was in a lot of physical pain. I think I took it far too lightly and was not prepared. Not a good time.


I won't pass on the experience, but I also won't be ready anytime soon. Hard coming from an impulsive and extremely curious person.

Thank you for your incredible insight. It's what I needed to hear. <3
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DMT has nothing to do with UFOs or other dimensions, it's all in your head, quite literally.


Read Strassman's second book Inner Paths to Outer Space. It's really not as simple as you think.
 Quoting: Thelemic Messiah


PART 3 - at 3:50 - this is the same conclusion I have come too, and was what I was trying to say.

Inner-space is outer-space, it is a self sufficient universe in there. Possibly with actual sentient beings. i would suggest people try to tune up or banish the negative ones before embarking on a DMT jump. Prayer, Meditation, Charity, Humility, etc...
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Thank you for this, will watch later.

bump!
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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DMT has nothing to do with UFOs or other dimensions, it's all in your head, quite literally.


Read Strassman's second book Inner Paths to Outer Space. It's really not as simple as you think.


PART 3 - at 3:50 - this is the same conclusion I have come too, and was what I was trying to say.

Inner-space is outer-space, it is a self sufficient universe in there. Possibly with actual sentient beings. i would suggest people try to tune up or banish the negative ones before embarking on a DMT jump. Prayer, Meditation, Charity, Humility, etc...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1178322


Excellent advice! I concur.
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Wow, some experts here....

If I had a really horrifying experience with salvia, is it likely to happen again with DMT?


Would you please share your salvia experience? I have done alot of research about that particular compound....
 Quoting: Opeth



Yes, for you I'd be happy to.

I had four eight inch long gashes going down my rib cage. I was in too much pain to go to a party I wanted to go to, so I thought 'Hey great idea, I'll try salvia tonight, woooo!'

My husband was looking after me while I did it and we decided to 'go' separately.

anyway... as soon as I exhaled I was dragged by my sternum, down and to the left through the floor [this happened to me once in an OBE as well]. I was spinning on an axis, like I was on a gigantic wheel torture device thing, except, something was in the way and every time my head passed a certain point on the axis something would 'punch' it. I had a distinct sense of embarrassment, like some thing was laughing at me. Uninvited would be the prevailing impression.

The wound in my side felt like it was being pounded with a gigantic dull hammer.

All I could hear was a very deep vibration, which I also felt, overwhelmingly, in every part of my body. Like sub-bass, with intense vibrations. The auditory aspect was very frightening, but I don't remember it well.

I remember still being very verbal, in my mind, begging for it to stop, screaming, and I thought I was talking to my husband the whole time. We had this entire conversation that never occurred. I was completely silent and wide-eyed for the whole thing.

I was down there for an eternity, but it was actually like 3 minutes. Funny how time truly doesn't exist in that realm.

My husband decided not to try it based on my experience.

Sorry, first time I've given thought to the experience and I'm not particularly 'sharp' at the moment. But there you go.
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I re-read my post and saw that it might be taken as, DMT is fake, defintley not, my bad.
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I just found an online source for the whole video.

If you are a bittorrent user and happen to be a member of conspiracy central, follow this link:

[link to tracker.concen.org]

I'm sure it's available elsewhere.

Google: DMT - The Spirit Molecule

I'm sure many sources will turn up.
 Quoting: Native-Alien


thank you very much!
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Dont smoke DMT

trust me.

You arent going anywhere good with it.

Mushrooms are essentially naturally plant based active DMT anyways. Psilocin and Psylocybin are chemically similar to DMT and Serotonin. All the drugs do is interact with your serotonin receptors
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DMT has nothing to do with UFOs or other dimensions, it's all in your head, quite literally.
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Consciousness is the basis of reality.
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Oh my, this video is so on point, part 4 at 8 minutes, the experiences are fractal realities, and the mentioning of sexual ecstasy!!! Wow. This is so right.
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Yes, for you I'd be happy to.

I had four eight inch long gashes going down my rib cage. I was in too much pain to go to a party I wanted to go to, so I thought 'Hey great idea, I'll try salvia tonight, woooo!'

My husband was looking after me while I did it and we decided to 'go' separately.

anyway... as soon as I exhaled I was dragged by my sternum, down and to the left through the floor [this happened to me once in an OBE as well]. I was spinning on an axis, like I was on a gigantic wheel torture device thing, except, something was in the way and every time my head passed a certain point on the axis something would 'punch' it. I had a distinct sense of embarrassment, like some thing was laughing at me. Uninvited would be the prevailing impression.

The wound in my side felt like it was being pounded with a gigantic dull hammer.

All I could hear was a very deep vibration, which I also felt, overwhelmingly, in every part of my body. Like sub-bass, with intense vibrations. The auditory aspect was very frightening, but I don't remember it well.

I remember still being very verbal, in my mind, begging for it to stop, screaming, and I thought I was talking to my husband the whole time. We had this entire conversation that never occurred. I was completely silent and wide-eyed for the whole thing.

I was down there for an eternity, but it was actually like 3 minutes. Funny how time truly doesn't exist in that realm.

My husband decided not to try it based on my experience.

Sorry, first time I've given thought to the experience and I'm not particularly 'sharp' at the moment. But there you go.
 Quoting: fleshette


Thank you darlin~~ hf You know, I hear ALOT about the wheel. It's friggin bizarre to say the least. I also do not know a single individual that DID NOT have a bad experience with it. Even those doing all the proper practices. Very strange compound that one....

I'm glad you made it back ok. *hug*
"Today young men on acid realized all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration... that we are all one conciousness experiencing ourselves subjectively.
There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.
...Here's Tom with the weather"

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DMT has nothing to do with UFOs or other dimensions, it's all in your head, quite literally.

Consciousness is the basis of reality.
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Yeah, read the rest of my posts. Came out the wrong way.
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I also do not know a single individual that DID NOT have a bad experience with it.
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I have had good experiences with the wheel, under salvia and other substances as well (LSD, Mushrooms). It is not something to be fucked with, nor are salvia or mushrooms or other spirit entities. They must be treated with utmost respect. Any attitude less than serious and reverent will definitely take you to a bad place.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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DMT has nothing to do with UFOs or other dimensions, it's all in your head, quite literally.

Consciousness is the basis of reality.


Yeah, read the rest of my posts. Came out the wrong way.
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I was agreeing with you, at least I think I was. Cheers!
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DMT has nothing to do with UFOs or other dimensions, it's all in your head, quite literally.

Consciousness is the basis of reality.


Yeah, read the rest of my posts. Came out the wrong way.


I was agreeing with you, at least I think I was. Cheers!
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Oh yeah. Hahaha, consciousness is the only truth.
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Had a few experiences with NN-DMT.. absolutely life changing experiences. But i will not be going back, for a couple of reasons:

1) I was confronted by a malicious entity on my first experience. Definitely wasn't a part of "me". Told if to fuck off and it went away though.

2) What can be triggered from without can be triggered from within.

3) Relating to point 2, i had a proper astral projection experience through meditation, and it was nearly identical to my NN-DMT experiences. I have found others who've done both DMT and astral projection to say the same thing.

IMHO i think the psychedelic community is way out of its depth with DMT. Obviously people are going to use it regardless of what i say, but my advice to you is simple: Treat the experience with fucking respect. This is NOT a bit of shrooms or acid.. you're messing with a powerful biological mechanism (Kundalini/Chakra system) and if you do it for the wrong reasons it will turn you inside out and fuck you in the ass.

Alan Watts said it best in regards to psychedelics in general, "Once you've gotten the message, hang up the phone".

Peace hf
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1) I was confronted by a malicious entity on my first experience. Definitely wasn't a part of "me". Told if to fuck off and it went away though.

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Details por favor?
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I also do not know a single individual that DID NOT have a bad experience with it.



I have had good experiences with the wheel, under salvia and other substances as well (LSD, Mushrooms). It is not something to be fucked with, nor are salvia or mushrooms or other spirit entities. They must be treated with utmost respect. Any attitude less than serious and reverent will definitely take you to a bad place.
 Quoting: canislatrans


well yes of course, all of that is true BUT salvia has much more of propensity to go badly (for many) for some bizarre reason.
"Today young men on acid realized all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration... that we are all one conciousness experiencing ourselves subjectively.
There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.
...Here's Tom with the weather"

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bump
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Had a few experiences with NN-DMT.. absolutely life changing experiences. But i will not be going back, for a couple of reasons:

1) I was confronted by a malicious entity on my first experience. Definitely wasn't a part of "me". Told if to fuck off and it went away though.

2) What can be triggered from without can be triggered from within.

3) Relating to point 2, i had a proper astral projection experience through meditation, and it was nearly identical to my NN-DMT experiences. I have found others who've done both DMT and astral projection to say the same thing.

IMHO i think the psychedelic community is way out of its depth with DMT. Obviously people are going to use it regardless of what i say, but my advice to you is simple: Treat the experience with fucking respect. This is NOT a bit of shrooms or acid.. you're messing with a powerful biological mechanism (Kundalini/Chakra system) and if you do it for the wrong reasons it will turn you inside out and fuck you in the ass.

Alan Watts said it best in regards to psychedelics in general, "Once you've gotten the message, hang up the phone".

Peace hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 499484


I agree with almost everything you said.

Too many people take this as a replacement or alternative to concious work which is actually where the real reward comes in. So few are really given pure access via the chemical route. You already have to be 'unlocked' so to speak.
"Today young men on acid realized all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration... that we are all one conciousness experiencing ourselves subjectively.
There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.
...Here's Tom with the weather"

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I also do not know a single individual that DID NOT have a bad experience with it.
 Quoting: Opeth


That's probably why it's still legal.

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