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Why do "dark" magickians use the "sacred name" YHWH before their rituals?

 
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If you believe the pentagram is evil, you subscribe to the very cause of that of which you denounce.

The whole concept of spells and witches and evil geometric representations came from the suppression of knowledge that conflicted with the church in the 1400s. Galileo discovered the key to understanding that the earth orbited the sun. He was put on house arrest for the remainder of his life, and his discoveries were suppressed, and so was all public knowledge of the specifics of his discoveries.

What he discovered is clearly illustrated in this link:

[link to www.lunarplanner.com]

The facts expressed in these concepts in the linked webpage can be easily used to prove that the earth and the other planets orbit the sun. The church at the time believed that the earth was the center of the universe. People of and since the 1400s who attempted to illustrate these concepts to educate their peers were accused of being witches and wizzards using glyphs to cast spells and summon evil, due to the disinformational propoganda of the time that the church was spreading via fear of the devil. Ever since this time, the pentagram has been associated with evil, and satanism, all because the church feared it would lose its power. Now, all fools who claim to partake in "satanic" rituals using the pentagram are unwitting tools of dis-information subscribing to the very propoganda they are attempting to rebel against.

In light of this information, if any of you then conclude that the solar system must then be evil, then, well, you must check your level of delusion.



Please educate yourself.......

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Read up to page three and got bored.

Good question OP, here is my answer:

In the movie "Close Encounters of the Third Kind", we see that the tones used in the movie, and played by the keyboard operator, are derived from a song indians were singing, and that this song, attracted "aliens" or what have you.

I am mentioning the Hollywhood film above, partially because it's a groundbreaking film of tremendous depth, but also because it ties into my theory.

Personally, I am well acquainted with those who today, use the name Jehovah. Now, these people, are all about him first (JHVH) and Jesus, waaaaay second. So, I always wondered why they have a yearly ritual where all the members gather and do the exact opposite of what Jesus said to do. They gather, they talk about Jesus's sacrifice, then they totally disobey him. They do not take, eat. They pass the emblems and actively deny them, though these people for the most part, do not realize what ritual in which they are participating. That's the nature of "loosh". Loosh is a phrase recently coined which refers to the gratification one gets from controlling others.

So anyway, now that I see their ritual for what it is (denial of Jesus aka talmudic magic), I have to speak to your particular question as to what this YHWH, is.

Now, there are books out there, that mention there is a Syrian YHWH and also a Judean YHWH, and that this causes some confusion, but the long and the short of it is that "Yahweh" or YHWH was a volcano god. That is obvious from the pillars and altars and mountains which are volcanos and since we know such people throw virgins into their volcano, it's not hard to draw that obvious evidence out of the fire, so to speak. YHWH = Volcano, RA = Sun. The two are in polar dichotomy, within the human being. Both bring holy fire/light, both are similar yet very dissimilar (opposite in fact) in their effect on the human mind. One comes from within Earth, and one comes from out in space. One appears glowing, vivid and destroys flesh instantly. The other sometimes feels cold and distant, aloof, not helping. Do you see the dance between lava and sunlight?

So I realized all this, but I didn't have a true epiphany of understanding until I met the Native Americans and listened to their songs. I kept hearing this intonation: "Yahwehyahwehyahweh.." if you listen to their native songs, you will hear it, especially did I hear it when I went to the lodge and sundance near a powerful, known volcano. But I didn't realize all this until after those experiences.

So I have come to understand, from all this, and my observation and study of Native American ways, that "yahweh" is the essential creative force which is expressed when a volcano blows its stack.

I will speak further here: For when a man has his moment of ecstacy, is it not YAHWEH!? Of course it is. When a man's 'volcano' erupts, it is YHWH, all the way. So too, when a woman has learned how to squirt magic juice (ejaculate) from her yoni, that too, is YHWH, though this sort of woman is hidden and uh, bottled up, so to speak. But YHWH, or Yahweh, is the essence of orgasm. Like lava which wants so badly to break through, but has to build and build pressure. Finally when it goes off, it hurls tonnage of earth into the air. Now that is a holy cumshot which every human must dance and sing in praise of, you know?

So although a lot of the people in JHVH's service lead totally non-sexual lives, the god they are worshipping (and this was surely known by the talmudists who own that name), is a potent, sexual god.

If I need to mention that Moses had his origin in the few centuries after the Thera eruption, right next door to Egypt, then my point has not been understood. Volcanoes are some bad ass shit, and that's why people would worship YHWH in them. Similarly, the JHVH people you see on the street, are basically like unexploded sexual volcanos. They ritualize their sheeplike, sexually oppressed lives by celebratiing it and submitting to inquiry from their religious overseers.

The essence of YHWH I learned from nature and from the indians. The true evil that can be done in the name of YHWH or Jehovah, I learned from people who hate the indians, yet who preach this name. I'll stick with the Indians. Now when I say Yahweh, I sing it and think of the volcanoes and I have a much healthier feeling this way. My two cents worth on the subject.
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...very interesting indeed.
 Quoting: GUANO


I received this teaching from Robert Thurman in person, it is very powerful, and a revolutionary counter-argument to materialism.

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...very interesting indeed.


I received this teaching from Robert Thurman in person, it is very powerful, and a revolutionary counter-argument to materialism.
 Quoting: Least Servant


But I think thought exists on a whole other level... sure, parts of your brain are fired up when you're thinking about and imagining things, going through your inner dialogue...

When you're dreaming or thinking of trees and flowers and tall peaks, do those peaks really exist? well that's the question, but I would say yes, they DO exist, just not in a form measurable by our current standards... And that existence can't be measured by mass, it's existence can only be measured by it's affect on the brain and how that experience affects the personality of the observer going forward through time...

I think of it this way though... This "other world" or, as I like to call it, microcosmic-heaven, within our minds is a real place, but that place only exists through us, manifested in our mind though our spirit(s)... Then there is the macrocosmic-heaven which is the exact same thing, some may call it the collective unconscious and many other terms, but this place is real as well and exists outside of us and is tied directly to all living things so that if one thing dies the macrocosmic-heaven continues on...

If every living thing died the macrocosmic-heaven would again be 'void'...

... I dunno, just thinking out loud.
Total Protonic Reversal...
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Re: Why do "dark" magickians use the "sacred name" YHWH before their rituals?
Thats because YHWH or Yahwee or Yehovah is a top demon, also known as the architect of the universe.


Jehovah or Yah/Yehovah is Hebrew Aramaic for "Lord/God of Wickedness" there are many others how it translate, ie lord of calamity, lord of destruction, ect ect

YHWH or Yahweh is just a shortened name trick or Acronym trick they to use to make it sound like its another god

YHWH or Yahweh or Jehovah/Jahovah/Jehovvah/Yahovvah is the same God/Entity

a few christian groups believe its Lucifer, since he has many names and all, pepper, peppa pepci/pepsi, allah spelled backwards is supposed to mean no god or something, its funny because 'alah yes the ' is included, is in strongs accordance, it translates somewhat similarly to Lucifer/Satan or some other Demons Name

anyway leaving now maybe this little bit of info will help



Its the most HOLY NAME in the Universe. The Tetragrammaton consisting of the letters: YOD HEH VAV HEH.

I havent commented much on this post cause its the most simple yet profound exercise to the initiate . To learn the sacred meditative truth of the Divine Name.

'Depart, ye profane! Let the catechumens [neophytes] and those who have not been admitted or initiated, go forth'."

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 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


[link to www.eliyah.com]

Strong's Hebrew Lexicon Search Results

Result of search for "1943":

1943 hovah ho-vaw' another form for 1942; ruin:--mischief.
1962 hayah hah-yaw' another form for 1943; ruin:--calamity.

we know Jah or Jeh means God so add

[link to www.eliyah.com]

1942 havvah hav-vaw' from 1933 (in the sense of eagerly coveting and rushing upon; by implication, of falling); desire; also ruin:--calamity, iniquity, mischief, mischievous (thing), naughtiness, naughty, noisome, perverse thing, substance, very wickedness.

since both 1942 and 43 are the same...

God of Ruin, God of Calamity, God of Michief, God of Naughiness, God of Substance, God of Very Wickedness, or God of Wickedness

the God of the Old Testaments Name is Ahayah Asher Ahayah, which in English Translates into I Am That I Am, but as for the Hebrew / Aramiac Understanding/Meaning of the Name i dont know

look at Michael the hebrew spelling of it varies but, it means "Who is like God?" i find this neat as heck because its a Statement and a Question at the Same time....
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But I think thought exists on a whole other level... sure, parts of your brain are fired up when you're thinking about and imagining things, going through your inner dialogue...

When you're dreaming or thinking of trees and flowers and tall peaks, do those peaks really exist? well that's the question, but I would say yes, they DO exist, just not in a form measurable by our current standards... And that existence can't be measured by mass, it's existence can only be measured by it's affect on the brain and how that experience affects the personality of the observer going forward through time...

I think of it this way though... This "other world" or, as I like to call it, microcosmic-heaven, within our minds is a real place, but that place only exists through us, manifested in our mind though our spirit(s)... Then there is the macrocosmic-heaven which is the exact same thing, some may call it the collective unconscious and many other terms, but this place is real as well and exists outside of us and is tied directly to all living things so that if one thing dies the macrocosmic-heaven continues on...

If every living thing died the macrocosmic-heaven would again be 'void'...

... I dunno, just thinking out loud.
 Quoting: GUANO


As I was trained in science I began to view the universe as an information processing device where the device doing the processing which possesses all the semantic rules has a one-to-one relationship with the information being processed, the matter of the universe.

All other conclusions follow from this basic assumption... and also the understanding that this is the creation of God, which for the purposes of this discussion is a whole other topic.

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Re: Why do "dark" magickians use the "sacred name" YHWH before their rituals?
Magick itself is not "dark"... any more so than chemistry or physics has moral weight.

Occult simply means hidden... at one point, all western science was done in occult practice.

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:aq agreed:

Yahweh is a power word ... it can be used for either good or evil.

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 Quoting: Aquarius 7



That's what i was thinking. If YHWH is the ultimate force, a force even beyond personality, emotion, or duality (where as it is the Angel of YHWH operating in Torah) this makes sense. Absolute power.
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Whether you use Sacred names or not,it is the INTENTION of

your magick that defines it's polarity not ANYTHING else.



If you use it for the highest good and need of others it is

good or "white".

if it is used for selfish/negative means it is black.



Both polarities use the same magick,but have different

intentions.
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Why does everybody read about,

Jehoshpahat
Jeremiah
Joshua
Joab
Jehonadab


...yet when they get to Jehovah they cry foul and say, "That can't be right, it has to be Yahweh"

It's only the translation into English

Y'all are just afraid of the name Jehovah because of the JW's

losers

If you are going to insist on "Yahweh" "Yehova" and/or "Yeshua" then print your own Bible and change all the J's to Y's mmkay
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No letter J in English language before 1500's.
Also check HalleluYAH, same spelling in over 30 languages
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Jesse is the name. You'll see................but will you understand?
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Good question op, when I started researching the Occult I had the same realization that they used Judea-Christian names for practically everything. The Kabbalistic Cross for example calls upon the angels Michael, Raphael, Uriel, and Gabriel to protect the magician in his workings.

The Golden Dawn material and Kabbalah seem to have their roots in Christian Gnosticism. Kabbalah itself is probably derived from Hermetics and Babylonian rituals.
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Kabbalah goes all the way back to Sumeria, and the time of Adam.

The Tree of Knowledge is the Sephiroth.

Nimrod, Semiramis, Tammuz (original Trinity): I Kings 1:36, Jer. 7:17-19, Jer. 44:15-23, Eze. 8:13-16, Jer. 10:1-5, Lev. 18:21, 17:17, II Chron. 33:6, II Chron. 28:3, Acts 19:23-41, Amos 5:26, I Kings 11:5, Acts 7:43, Hos. 2:16-17
Amen: I Kings 1:36
Hexagon (Star of molech/rephan)/Star of David: Amos 5:26, I Kings 11:5, Acts 7:43, Acts 19:23-41
Asherah pole/tree: Judges 6:25, I Kings 14:15-23, II Kings 16:2-4,33, II Kings 13:6, II Kings 17:10-16, II Chron. 28:4, II Chron. 33:3, I Sam. 40:18-20, I Sam. 57:5, I Sam. 66:17, Jer. 2:20, 3:6,13, 10:1-5, Eze. 6:13
Obelisks (phallus of Nimrod): Gen. 28:18-22, Gen. 31:45, Gen. 35:14, Exo. 24:4, Deut. 16:22-23
Masonic Pillars – Joachin and Boaz: I Kings 7:15-22, II Chron. 3:15-17
Sacrament of Mithras: Mark 14:24, Luke 22:20
Rod of Asclepius – Baalat Asclepius/Eshmun Canaanite god(dess) of healing: Num. 21:9, II Kings 18:4, John 3:14-15

Israelites worship the Creator and their own pagan gods: II Kings 17:24-41, Hos. 8:5, Hos. 10:5

Figurines of Asherah are strikingly common in the archaeological record, indicating the popularity of her cult from the earliest times to the Babylonian exile. More rarely, inscriptions linking Yahweh and Asherah have been discovered: an 8th century BCE ostracon (fragment of pottery) inscribed "Berakhti etkhem l’YHVH Shomron ul’Asherato" (Hebrew: בירכתי אתכם ליהוה שומרון ולאשרתו‎) was discovered by Israeli archeologists at Quntilat 'Ajrud (Hebrew "Horvat Teman") in the course of excavations in the Sinai desert in 1975, prior to the Israeli withdrawal from this area. This translates as: "I have blessed you by YHVH of Samaria and His Asherah" (or perhaps "... by YHVH our guardian and His Asherah", if "Shomron" is to be read "shomrenu").
Another inscription, from Khirbet el-Kom near Hebron, reads: "Blessed be Uriyahu by Yahweh and by his Asherah; from his enemies he saved him!" The first person to identify the pillar figurines with Asherah was Raphael Patai, in The Hebrew Goddess.

The Quran speaks about this deviation, the secret societies, and where the teachings come from.

Forbidden Tree: Surah 2:35, 2:102, 7:19-22, 17:60, 20:120-121, 37:62-64, 44:43, 56:52
Tree of Zaqqum: Surah 17:60, 37:62, 44:43, 56:52
“And when We said to you: Surely your Lord encompasses men; and We did not make the vision which We showed you but a trial for men and the cursed tree in the Quran as well; and We cause them to fear, but it only adds to their great inordinacy.” Surah 17:60
Kabbalah/Babylon: Surah 2:102, 4:51-52
Harut and Marut: Surah 2:102, Num. 22:22, Ecc. 2:8 (shiddah we-shiddoth), Mat. 2:7, II Tim. 3:8, Enoch 6:7, 8:1, Midrash Yalkut
Zoroastrian Magi; assisting angels in the Avesta (Haruvatat and Ameretat).
The Magi/Three Kings of Matthew 2.
Fallen angels of Midrash Yalkut. Sorcerers of Exo. 7:12 found in Talmud: Ianni, Iohanni, Ionos, Iamres, Iambres, Iomros, Memre.
Leaders of the Watchers of I Enoch 6:7, 8:1
Fallen angels refuted: Surah 23:24
Sahirin - magicians of Egypt: Surah 7:112, 10:79, 20:49-71, Exo. 7-8
Samiri: Surah 20:85-98, 46:29

Children of Israel desire to worship other gods as the people they come upon: Surah 7:138

YHWH is the name of the calf, the pagan god worshiped by the Bani Israel when Moses (pbuh) went up to the Mount.

The cow: Surah 2:51-54, 7:148-152, 20:86-97, Exo. 32
Ba’al: Surah 37:123-130, I Kings 18:16-40
Sun worship: Surah 27: 24
Secret Societies: Surah 58:7-22, 2:102, 4:81, 4:108, 4:113, 9:78, 17:47, 15:30-40, 6:123, 21:1-4, 26:124-131, Zech. 11:17
Diviners/soothsayers/astrologers: Surah 4:51-52, 15:16-18, 37:6-11, 52:38-41, 67:5, 72:8-9
Followers of YHWH (Yahoodu/Yahoodian): Surah 2:111, 2:113, 2:120, 3:67, 5:18, 5:64, 9:30
"Ibrahim was not a Jew (yahoodiyyan) nor a Christian (nasraniyyan) but he was upright, a Muslim, and he was not one of the polytheists." Surah 3:67
YHWH: يهوه
Jew: يهودي

May our Creator increase the believers in knowledge.

Peace.
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Its the most HOLY NAME in the Universe. The Tetragrammaton consisting of the letters: YOD HEH VAV HEH.
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


The Tetragrammaton being the Kabbalist sigil.

Throughout every Book revealed by our Creator, we are warned against practicing sorcery.

Sorcery, divination, mysticism, witchcraft condemned: Deut. 18:10, Lev. 19:26, Exo. 22:18, II Kings 9:22, II Chron. 33:6, Micah 5:12, Gal. 5:20, II Kings 17:17, I Sam. 28:3, Isaiah 2:6

God's name is given in the previous Books.

God as Awesome One – Elah: Deut. 32:15, II Chr. 32:15, Neh. 9:17, Ezra. 5:1,11, Ezra. 6:14, Ezra. 7:12,19,21,23, Dan. 2:18,23,28,37,47, Dan. 3:15, Dan. 6:8,13
Valley of Elah: I Sam. 17:2-3
God of my fathers – Elah Avahati: Dan. 2:23
God of gods – Elah Elahin: Dan. 2:47
God of Jerusalem – Elah Yerushelem: Ezra 7:19
God of Isreal – Elah Yisreal: Ezra 5:1
God of Heaven – Elah Shemalya: Ezra 7:23
Alleluia: Rev. 19:1,3

Look to the Hebrew and Koine Greek.

“And Allah's are the best names, therefore call on Him thereby, and leave alone those who violate the sanctity of His names; they shall be recompensed for what they did.” Surah 7:180

Practice magic and you have no part in the Hereafter. Your abode will be Fire.
You cannot say you were not warned.

Peace.
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So I am cruising YouTube, somehow got from Enoch to Enochian Magik, after a couple of minutes of browsing. Now the video I am posting is a guy who is obviously practicing the dark arts and is stark raving mad, I noticed that he uses the name YHWH at the beginning of all his rituals. After researching a bit it seems this is common. Question is, why? Isn't this the name of God according to the Bible? Seems like two and two shouldnt go together.


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No ritual has a real power as it is only falling of mankind into the matter.

The real power is a little more than 5000 words.....
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Its the most HOLY NAME in the Universe. The Tetragrammaton consisting of the letters: YOD HEH VAV HEH.

The Tetragrammaton being the Kabbalist sigil.

Throughout every Book revealed by our Creator, we are warned against practicing sorcery.

Sorcery, divination, mysticism, witchcraft condemned: Deut. 18:10, Lev. 19:26, Exo. 22:18, II Kings 9:22, II Chron. 33:6, Micah 5:12, Gal. 5:20, II Kings 17:17, I Sam. 28:3, Isaiah 2:6

God's name is given in the previous Books.

God as Awesome One – Elah: Deut. 32:15, II Chr. 32:15, Neh. 9:17, Ezra. 5:1,11, Ezra. 6:14, Ezra. 7:12,19,21,23, Dan. 2:18,23,28,37,47, Dan. 3:15, Dan. 6:8,13
Valley of Elah: I Sam. 17:2-3
God of my fathers – Elah Avahati: Dan. 2:23
God of gods – Elah Elahin: Dan. 2:47
God of Jerusalem – Elah Yerushelem: Ezra 7:19
God of Isreal – Elah Yisreal: Ezra 5:1
God of Heaven – Elah Shemalya: Ezra 7:23
Alleluia: Rev. 19:1,3

Look to the Hebrew and Koine Greek.

“And Allah's are the best names, therefore call on Him thereby, and leave alone those who violate the sanctity of His names; they shall be recompensed for what they did.” Surah 7:180

Practice magic and you have no part in the Hereafter. Your abode will be Fire.
You cannot say you were not warned.

Peace.
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Alchemy became Chemistry.
Astrology became Astronomy.
Anymore?
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butchery became surgery rant
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Why does everybody read about,

Jehoshpahat
Jeremiah
Joshua
Joab
Jehonadab


...yet when they get to Jehovah they cry foul and say, "That can't be right, it has to be Yahweh"

It's only the translation into English

Y'all are just afraid of the name Jehovah because of the JW's

losers

If you are going to insist on "Yahweh" "Yehova" and/or "Yeshua" then print your own Bible and change all the J's to Y's mmkay

No letter J in English language before 1500's.
Also check HalleluYAH, same spelling in over 30 languages
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I believe the J is a germanic spelling. No matter, whether the name starts with a J or Y doesn't matter. It means the same thing. It is like saying Juan or John. Different pronunciation but same meaning.
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Jesse is the one your looking for. Why, in the english speaking world, was Jesus not translated to Jesse? It is the proper translation.

The savior has not yet come, the jews were right. But they know his name. They want you too look in the wrong places. They want to keep their savior a secret, so, they didnt translate the name.

Jesse.

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If you believe the pentagram is evil, you subscribe to the very cause of that of which you denounce.

The whole concept of spells and witches and evil geometric representations came from the suppression of knowledge that conflicted with the church in the 1400s. Galileo discovered the key to understanding that the earth orbited the sun. He was put on house arrest for the remainder of his life, and his discoveries were suppressed, and so was all public knowledge of the specifics of his discoveries.

What he discovered is clearly illustrated in this link:

[link to www.lunarplanner.com]

The facts expressed in these concepts in the linked webpage can be easily used to prove that the earth and the other planets orbit the sun. The church at the time believed that the earth was the center of the universe. People of and since the 1400s who attempted to illustrate these concepts to educate their peers were accused of being witches and wizzards using glyphs to cast spells and summon evil, due to the disinformational propoganda of the time that the church was spreading via fear of the devil. Ever since this time, the pentagram has been associated with evil, and satanism, all because the church feared it would lose its power. Now, all fools who claim to partake in "satanic" rituals using the pentagram are unwitting tools of dis-information subscribing to the very propoganda they are attempting to rebel against.

In light of this information, if any of you then conclude that the solar system must then be evil, then, well, you must check your level of delusion.



Please educate yourself.......
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There is a calendar based on this specific cycle. This s the calendar that they use to coordinate their events. This is how they know when their savior is coming.
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Ain't it obvious?
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It is that 'forbidden knowledge'which destroyed our original, blissful and beautiful relationship with God.

Adam and Eve were deceived into believing that they could 'handle' it.

POISON/ CURSED to all who touch it.

God's love was to protect them from it. Once done, they experienced PAIN, GRIEF, LABOR(in every form), SHAME and DEATH. Do we really need to INVOKE this 'knowledge'????

Jesus paid the price to REMOVE the CURSE...

Receive your REDEEMER and BE FREE........
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doesnt exist its a pigment of ur imagination . think about it- if demons n all that shit were real- wouldnt scientists put out some pentagrams with blood by now n see what happens and study the results. if the magic was real wouldnt there be masters floating around us. shits a joke. schizophrenic people are flocking in by the masses now. the only real hidden power is Mind Control.
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doesnt exist its a pigment of ur imagination . think about it- if demons n all that shit were real- wouldnt scientists put out some pentagrams with blood by now n see what happens and study the results. if the magic was real wouldnt there be masters floating around us. shits a joke. schizophrenic people are flocking in by the masses now. the only real hidden power is Mind Control.
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... Duh, that's what ritual magic is all about, the words used to describe symptoms and phenomena have just changed over time...
Total Protonic Reversal...
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It has something to do with the qabbalists, babylonian jews,
and possibly an entity called yaldaboth and the so called demiurge. YHVH is the better translation, YHWH is the split of that they then used to decieve the jewish population that they were worshiping YHVH. It actually explains a lot about the last 2500 years of jewish history. There is a lot more to this of course.
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um YHWH is NOT the demiurge
the false god of this reality-prison blames YHWH for everything , YHWH is the OPPOSITE of the demiurge
and spirituality and mysticism is one thing the occult and magick is another sure to research magick is ok but come on dont support it theres a good and bad side to spirituality and magick is the bad side , very dangerous , do NOT be enveloped in druidism , sects , societies , organized groups with "grand wizard priests" , chanting rituals , and magicks/spells/wicca because its all false , true spirituality comes from nature like things and more philosophically bent things like meditation intuition psychic energy vibrations etc not this voodoo perversion ugh
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I can honestly see no reason to do any of this. Unless its for selfish purposes.

most likely notoriety.

Simply meaningless. weird.

i would love to do magic. But for what?
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Maybe for a relative's healing or something of that sort, but if god is on your side, you wouldn't have to go through all the ritual. That goes for Catholic "ritual" magic as well...I am watching all this stuff right now, and it all really reminds me of Catholicism and their "mass" - Jewish magick roots are showing Pope.

Maybe this is the early jews rejected Chrisitanity? They knew they were revealing the esoteric side of Judaism down to the Trinity doctrine, which is pure Kaballah.
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yall are using the word magick way to loosely , as if it describes the whole realm of the supernatural
magick is just one denomination , its just one craft , there are millions of other supernatural paths
"magic" in modern day terminology has come to mean anything that is supernatural but thats so false ...
magick is just a denomination , and there are thousands of other supernatural paths far less sinisiter than it
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So I am cruising YouTube, somehow got from Enoch to Enochian Magik, after a couple of minutes of browsing. Now the video I am posting is a guy who is obviously practicing the dark arts and is stark raving mad, I noticed that he uses the name YHWH at the beginning of all his rituals. After researching a bit it seems this is common. Question is, why? Isn't this the name of God according to the Bible? Seems like two and two shouldnt go together.


No, it's not the Creator's name.The Creator doesn't have a "name". But the Hebrew Lexicon and Strong's Concordance identify Yahweh (yhwh) to be the Phoenician deity: Baal. Baal is another name for the fallen cherub, Azazel or:haShatan (the Satan). Satan means: resister.


Ok, true. The creator does not really have a name. We just use the name YHVH as a symbol to identify the creative force. It is actually more like a formula Y=fire=thought, H=water=emotion, V=air=action, H=earth=form.

Satan is the creator. This world has nothing to do with God. All jews, christians and muslims are unsuspecting devil worshipers.
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haShatan is the creator of chaos and death, to be specific. And you're right, they do worship haShatan, and they don't even realize it.
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satan is the perverter not the creator
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its very strange. this all sounds like the 'dark side' of the force...

like the yin and yang ; positive and negative energies...

but where there is dark, mustn't there also be light?

I have seen much light...
just look at birds, or water, or the face of a child, or a smiling loved one...
love IS all around...

so how can the creator and all of creation be evil?

what IS evil, in fact?

is it just ignorance of the light?

there is much fear, pain, suffering, hate out there.... especially these days

and many are losing faith and hope

like in the neverending story, when the 'nothing' is closing in, people have given up their dreams and stopped hoping for a better future....
so the servants of the nothing...gmork...start to become braver....

but where there's dark there must be light

believe in love

have faith....

even when it seems like all is lost....

(I am telling myself as much as anyone else at this point...)....
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doesnt exist its a pigment of ur imagination .

okay...normally wudn't do this, but FIGMENT, not PIGMENT...
 Quoting: Truthseekr


pigment refers to colours, like different coloured paints....

sorrys cud not help self.