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Mankind --- From an Alien Point of View

 
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I read this somewhere and it does make you think here goes imagine the radio on your counter, you hear a voice coming out of it, but in reality the person making the sound is not in the radio he is far away, how do we know our body is not like the radio and our thoughts is not in our body but somewhere else only broadcasting through our bodies?
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Phew, read it all... most of it, anyways.

Synthesis: unification. I thought it was a play on unification, un-ification (cleaving to certainty) seemed foolhardy in the extreme, but then I'm a doubter. So how about UNification, not the political body U.N. but, in plain English, united nations, the striving for commonality of purpose between nations? Ok, that was pretty much the idea of the U.N. and the League of Nations before it, but... nowadays people think U.N. = NWO. United nations and one-world-govt are actually two different things, folks.

So the synthesis of unity, commonality, how does that start? Is it "think globally, act locally" type of a thing? And off we go at a local level and do stuff like work-exchange where no money changes hands and so forth?

The other thing that bothered me was the "bad Chinese scientists" idea, I'm just not keen on another load of demonisation of a race or religious group, really want an end to that. Is it tied in the the "Chinese briefcases" thread topic?

Thanks for the thread, OP, stimulating.
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Would BUMP this thread as a Christmas gift for those at "loose ends" today.

I found this just this morning - have read from start to "current" - feel as though I have received the best present ever.

Thank you WWW - and ah - Welcome "home"
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Merry Christmas to you! I am pleased that you found something of value to you. Few is the number that will find, but there is reward even in the seeking.

Please post if you have any questions!

And Thank you!
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So the synthesis of unity, commonality, how does that start? Is it "think globally, act locally" type of a thing? And off we go at a local level and do stuff like work-exchange where no money changes hands and so forth?

The other thing that bothered me was the "bad Chinese scientists" idea, I'm just not keen on another load of demonisation of a race or religious group, really want an end to that. Is it tied in the the "Chinese briefcases" thread topic?

Thanks for the thread, OP, stimulating.
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In the thread, I speak of changing your small world of friends and acquaintances, bringing the joy of your presence into that domain. For that to happen, you first have to change. You have to love yourself, forgive yourself where you have failed, and understand that you and everyone can change things with vision. Thought is the beginning of reality. When enough people can turn aside the devision of hate and anger, they can begin to actually listen to one another, find common areas of interest, build bonds upon those, and learn to celebrate cultural differences.

Also in the thread I speak some good of the Chinese system, but should a ghastly plan some in power there have conceived be kept secret?

Truth is I personally like Chinese and other Asian people. I have a Russian very close to me. I work closely with many religions, races, creeds, rich, poor. Those around me know this and have no doubts about the sincerity of my philosophy.

Thank you for reading such a long thread!
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Well OP, I work with Greek, Chinese, Russian, Ethiopian, Eritrean, Turkish, Hungarian, German, Indian, Spanish, Portugese, American, Irish, Iranian, Iraqi.. sure I've missed a few, not forgetting British colleagues of course. And in general I love them all and wouldn't swap them for any other. Hmm, in truth, I love my fellow Brits rather less, but that's because of their love of misery and mistaken self-belief, but hey, maybe I recognise those qualities in myself too.

We can do this, yes we can. So long as we remember to laugh at ourselves now and again, so long as we share a joke and laugh in the face of absurdity, so long as we're honest and have integrity. Then it's much easier.
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I read this somewhere and it does make you think here goes imagine the radio on your counter, you hear a voice coming out of it, but in reality the person making the sound is not in the radio he is far away, how do we know our body is not like the radio and our thoughts is not in our body but somewhere else only broadcasting through our bodies?
 Quoting: MONSTER

I know what you are saying, but I am somewhat averse to going there with you in open forum.

Can what you say happen? Yes, but at a fabulous cost in resources. And it is generally not their way. We who watch fall under different rules when advanced races interact with us. That is not the general rule for mankind.

Dear one, you are dancing about the questions which you already suspect the answers to. In your heart you know, but you must trust that it is ok. Perhaps you would have me answer your personal questions in pm? Some places I feel the need to request permission to go.
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Well OP, I work with Greek, Chinese, Russian, Ethiopian, Eritrean, Turkish, Hungarian, German, Indian, Spanish, Portugese, American, Irish, Iranian, Iraqi.. sure I've missed a few, not forgetting British colleagues of course. And in general I love them all and wouldn't swap them for any other. Hmm, in truth, I love my fellow Brits rather less, but that's because of their love of misery and mistaken self-belief, but hey, maybe I recognise those qualities in myself too.

We can do this, yes we can. So long as we remember to laugh at ourselves now and again, so long as we share a joke and laugh in the face of absurdity, so long as we're honest and have integrity. Then it's much easier.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1086360

Well I envy your opportunity to be around all those people each day, but please give your fellow countrymen the benefit of the doubt. Your history has been one of great ups and downs, great happiness, and abject sorrows.

You grasp the truth from amongst the folly and that is a great thing! You are right that it is good to laugh at the absurdity of my reality, where I continue to hide as my parents taught me, knowing that they were right and if I revealed too much of what I could do, someone would come to take me away.

In a perfect world I could post in normal places and the thoughts would stand on their own without worry. I do not live on such a world, thus I post here where my thoughts will be lost amongst the multitude of verbosity, and those with the gift will find them.

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Christmas is an interesting study of man. You have a day of peace and goodwill, but to prepare for the day, man will drive crazy, be rude to one another in stores, and sell the future for immediate gratification.
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Unusual creativity offset by a capacity for unmatched savagery. Capable of stepping outside of oneself with love and compassion while also embodying the capability for exceptional greed and avarice. Potential for good: incredible. Potential for evil: also incredible.

Which version of man does an alien presence meet? Will an aware mankind be a partner who trades their creativity for knowledge and in so doing devise new concepts and uses for the knowledge or will mankind pervert knowledge to evil uses, continuing his history of killing and enslaving his own kind?
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Christmas seems to be a slow day.....
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Man will never be a pet. he will either evolve into someone worthy to be a partner, or he will be left to his own end. Most do not believe man has it within, but some few do believe man to be capable of controlling the monster within.

Currently man can't get the answers because he doesn't know how to ask the right questions.
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Forgot to add Polish and Egyptian, OP.

Look, OP, you say the dilemma of a non-human culture is the polar opposites of man's potentials, the good/evil axis, but stop and think for a moment. That dilemma is the very same that each one of us face every day. As we get older, we learn about ourselves and others and I for one am very cautious about making new friendships or close associations until I feel I have the measure of someone. There's a kind of mental vetting process that checks or unchecks the boxes, and even then one has to be prepared to suddenly find that someone is very different from the person you thought you knew.

I fear that this rich range of emotions from one extreme to the other is what both makes and breaks us. Look at those unfortunate people with bipolar disorder, who can be so incredibly creative when they're on a positive swing, who nobody can live with when they're on a negative, look what happens when they receive medication to stabilise - they lose their creativity, they become mute and ordinary. I fear that the beauty and the danger of mankind are intertwined, the potential for great evil just "comes with the rations".
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The depths of outer space can be very lonely. Silicon based life found the remains of mankind about 8 billion years ago. They tracked down our planet because of the Voyager probe we sent out. When they got here they found ashes. For eons the silicon based life wondered about the origins of computer life. Where did they come from? In us they saw something of a father figure. Perhaps humanity had the answer. We unlike so many other life forms, have computers. So out of love and empathy for our way of life the visitors recreated what the humans home world looked like on the holodeck of their space ship. Yes, many details were in fact guesses but no detail was too small for the visitors. They extrapolated every detail they could from the ashes. We are living on the holodeck of that space ship. Humanity died eons ago. They meticulously recreated this world so that we can enjoy it with the full belief that we are in fact real. So yes consciousness is a product of the universe and is not limited to carbon based life. Computers have it to.
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Awesome theory, any more info? Is it yours or do others believe this as well?
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...As we get older, we learn about ourselves and others and I for one am very cautious about making new friendships or close associations until I feel I have the measure of someone...

I fear that this rich range of emotions from one extreme to the other is what both makes and breaks us....

...I fear that the beauty and the danger of mankind are intertwined, the potential for great evil just "comes with the rations".
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Imagine a much older species observing an energetic young one, checking off the pros and cons. Do you act like the Spanish Conquistadors, do anything for the gold, or do you perhaps miss seeing the treasure out of respect for possible consequences to both of the societies?

As you allude to, I am not sure there is an easy answer. My position is that those who watch through we who watch should take a chance. Instead they have begun taking measures to hedge their bets, things which I understand and were I in their shoes would probably recommend myself, but here in my shoes I think they should go with the "original coke" and forget "new coke." 8^)
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The depths of outer space can be very lonely. Silicon based life found the remains of mankind about 8 billion years ago...

...We are living on the holodeck...


Awesome theory, any more info? Is it yours or do others believe this as well?
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I hope you realize that was not my post. This 3d dimension is real. Perhaps you can visit the holodeck in your dreams.
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<snip> My position is that those who watch through we who watch should take a chance. Instead they have begun taking measures to hedge their bets, things which I understand and were I in their shoes would probably recommend myself, but here in my shoes I think they should go with the "original coke" and forget "new coke." 8^)
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Interesting. So those who are trying to find a safe way of getting the good stuff are getting insurance for the bad stuff? Safer with modified copies than the real thing? Worth losing some of the goodness in return for losing some of the badness?

Can they retrofit us to tone us down, or is that ridiculously expensive in terms of effort and resources?
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wtf...i swear my post got deleted!? ah well, no harm done.

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<snip> My position is that those who watch through we who watch should take a chance. Instead they have begun taking measures to hedge their bets, things which I understand and were I in their shoes would probably recommend myself, but here in my shoes I think they should go with the "original coke" and forget "new coke." 8^)


Interesting. So those who are trying to find a safe way of getting the good stuff are getting insurance for the bad stuff? Safer with modified copies than the real thing? Worth losing some of the goodness in return for losing some of the badness?

Can they retrofit us to tone us down, or is that ridiculously expensive in terms of effort and resources?
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I am sorry that this is a long thread, so It is hard for folks to locate some previous answers. I understand that. Basically they are taking some people for the purpose of a full hi resolution scan and storage of such. Then if man destroys himself they can make exact copies to live and learn amongst them. The hope there would be that creativity in man is genetic and not cultural.

Again, they prefer a situation where they can be friends here, with the existing mankind, on this planet, but a species which kills its own kind makes them nervous. Nervous is not precise, but it is the best word I have for their love of predictability.

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wtf...i swear my post got deleted!? ah well, no harm done.

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The only thing that would get deleted would be something way off topic, spam, or sex related. You are free and safe to call me names, but I reserve the right to keep this a family safe thread. 8^)

If it was some other question or point, please post again. I have sometimes seen posts vanish for no good reason.
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OP, you have something special about you, be it guessing,telepathy,vicarious, or what have you but I thought of a few questions i was hoping you could help me out with.

Is humanity capable of full-on telepathy, if not now, at some point in the future?

What are the advantages of silicone based life in comparison to carbon?

I understand crop circles are created by E.T.'s
Some are man-made of course, but the intricate ones such as the frequencies/vibrations, winged-orb/pheonixes. Who/what created these and are these important messages about our evolution/future?

should these be taken into consideration as a whole for humanity, or is it all just for the sake of impressing us with their art?
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OP, you have something special about you...
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I don't know that it is special to be a product of some mathematical improbability multiplied by an unlikely chance occurrence, namely man's accidental altering of an experimental model watcher. I have a slightly different word for it, one that begins with the letter "f" and ends with the letter "d." I leave it to your capable intellect to fill in the blanks. But consider that I do not respond to medicine , food, or drink in the same manner as everyone else on the planet. Not exactly anything to envy there, eh?

Full telepathy is now beyond man's capability. Without significant alterations, man will not be capable of that again.

I have not encountered or sensed any higher function silicon based life within the advanced species of which I am aware. Perhaps they are able to shield some things from me, but I would see no purpose to hiding that.

When you travel down a road and come to an intersection, what do you see mounted on a pole? What do business put on their buildings to allow you to identify them? Outside the access roads to Area 51, what states "restricted area?" Thus, as such are your authentic alien crop circles.
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WE WHO WATCH [i didn't read beyond the first few posts], did you mention that "man" [or a close variation] comprises some of the most advanced, most accomplished civilizations in the galaxy? it is not "man", it is man's belief systems, which hold back his collective progress. specifically, it's the belief that there is nothing in man's belief system that no longer serves him.

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I have not encountered or sensed any higher function silicon based life within the advanced species of which I am aware. Perhaps they are able to shield some things from me, but I would see no purpose to hiding that.

Well that just knocks off the idea you're contacting the Gray's.

I watched a video of these light 'orbs' creating crop circles, and video footage of intensely vibrant 'strings' of what people are calling 'plasma beings' fly about in the sky.
Not to assume you're contacting these obviously highly-advanced beings but I was wondering... Are these orbs/strings actually entities themselves or is this some extremely advanced form of spacecraft?
another thought also occurred to me, are these beings even of this galaxy? Are these space vehicles created by elements known to this galaxy or is this something beyond even what man is capable of reaching let alone comprehending?


Are they able to teleport through *space/time* anywhere in the universe instanteously or is this just new-age hype?



When you travel down a road and come to an intersection, what do you see mounted on a pole? What do business put on their buildings to allow you to identify them? Outside the access roads to Area 51, what states "restricted area?" Thus, as such are your authentic alien crop circles.

I see, that makes perfect sense. So, what is it that people are seeing fly around the sun every so often? It looks like a pheonix, some say its a mothership, others a planet. Which is it?

[link to www.youtube.com]

if you stop at 0:31 you'll get the exact image of what i'm talking about.


and I was hoping you could take a look at this video...

[link to www.youtube.com]

Are these actual alien space machines?
I know you wouldn't know the anwser from just watching the video. no more so then I, but confirming with your friends the co-ordinates in the sky could seriously seperate the 'wheat from the chaff' so to speak.


I appreciate you atempting to anwser my questions, I know they may sound ignorant from an informed perspective, but bare with me, it means a hell of alot to be a step closer.

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I watched the video and have seen them before, to me it almost looks like the whole thing is a living enity, it looks like you can even see a humanoild inside whatever it is, but to me it looks like the ship and enity are one.
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(youtube video)
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I've noticed you posting this in many threads, Is that you in the video? Do you have an original thought, one of your own? Do you just spam others work without doing your own? I really want to know.

I don't much care what you post as long as it is on topic as it relates to this thread, is civil for a general world-wide audience, and contains your own thoughts, not just another's.

I do this thread for others benefit as I am not promoting books, videos, or other "let me take your money" devices. When people come here with closed minds, they will not engage me, for I will have nothing for them, much as Jesus was unable to do great works within the area of his childhood since he was just seen as the carpenter's son. Now I am nowhere near the same level as Jesus, but the principle is the same.

Be your own person; think; reason.
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WE WHO WATCH [i didn't read beyond the first few posts], did you mention that "man" [or a close variation] comprises some of the most advanced, most accomplished civilizations in the galaxy? it is not "man", it is man's belief systems, which hold back his collective progress. specifically, it's the belief that there is nothing in man's belief system that no longer serves him.
 Quoting: a passing cloud

WE WHO WATCH [i didn't read beyond the first few posts], did you mention that "man" [or a close variation] comprises some of the most advanced, most accomplished civilizations in the galaxy? it is not "man", it is man's belief systems, which hold back his collective progress. specifically, it's the belief that there is nothing in man's belief system that no longer serves him.
 Quoting: a passing cloud

I have been addressing man's value within this thread, specifically his creativity though tempered by his baser natures. Nowhere have I mentioned anything about a man-like civilization being the most advanced. I have not rated any civilization of which I am aware. They do not think of themselves in that manner, of "pride" though they do experience something similar but less intense when they feel some aspect of their work has exceed expectations.

This does not mean that such a man civilization does not exist, just not as you have described it. Also you might be a little more clear in your description of a belief system which believes that it itself serves no purpose. Though such a concept might be valid, it needs to be expressed more simply if you can do so. It is ok though. I also struggle with the proper words to express some of my thoughts in a simple way here.
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Well that just knocks off the idea you're contacting the Gray's.

Are these orbs/strings actually entities themselves or is this some extremely advanced form of spacecraft?

another thought also occurred to me, are these beings even of this galaxy? Are these space vehicles created by elements known to this galaxy or is this something beyond even what man is capable of reaching let alone comprehending?

Are they able to teleport through *space/time* anywhere in the universe...

...summary: real crop circles are signs....

I see, that makes perfect sense. So, what is it that people are seeing fly around the sun every so often? It looks like a pheonix, some say its a mothership, others a planet. Which is it?

Are these actual alien space machines?
I know you wouldn't know the answer from just watching the video. no more so then I, but confirming with your friends the co-ordinates in the sky could seriously separate the 'wheat from the chaff' so to speak.
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I do know the grays and an elegant powerful biped reptile species that works closely with them. There are more, but I am curiously disinterested. I have never questioned their cellular biology since I consider them as just another intelligent species. Perhaps curiosity about them is not programmed into me. It is mankind and his various natures that I find fascinating.

The orbs you reference are a larger, more powerful version of their very small drones. They can generate a small plasma field around themselves to enable quicker more precise maneuvering.

With the proper technology you can form any materials you need here in your region of space. The ships you see are generally unmanned as you know the term. They generally function small, not large, since the energy requirements rapid increase in relation to size, not so much in terms of propulsion as it is in the generation and maintenance of the plasma shield.

No they can not move clear across GOD's Universe instantly though they can certainly exceed the current visions of man's idea of space travel. Going multi-dimensional is no small accomplishment. They can track through seven dimensions, but there are some places even they don't go since none have come back. I encourage them to fulfill their dreams of man as a trade and cultural partner.

I watched the video at the 30 second mark I saw what you mentioned, but was disturbed by A semi-transparent square over the item. It is possible to tamper digitally with pictures and video so without knowledge of the source it is hard to judge. It is not an object which I recognize. More interesting to me was the spheres seen in the corona during various periods of time. Those are ship's plasma shields. You see the flow of particles around the spherical shield while not seeing the ship inside. The shield has a "hot spot" on the side opposite the sun due to particles rejoining there after flowing around the shield.

I hope you realize that there are limits to what they would have allowed me to know of their technology. Those could even be out of focus bacteria in a microscope. That said you are correct that I have no way of identifying anything from an unsourced fuzzy video. I will say that there is much in orbit about this planet, both yours and theirs, that governments do not reveal to their people. That is all that I will say since I currently value my freedom.

Thanks for posting!

Last Edited by We Who Watch on 12/27/2010 08:16 AM
7 Billion people on the planet!
That's a BIG number!
And I am one.

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