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Mankind --- From an Alien Point of View

 
We Who Watch (OP)

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I agree with both of you. "Why" should a third party care to begin with is another discussion though. The dog, humanity, has had ample opportunity to overthrow it's master. We are not blameless in our slavery. We do not need nor should get any outside help in casting off those bonds. However, I do believe we will absolutely need an outside party to remind us who the man is and that we are dogs instead of pets. The beatings have gone on long enough that we have long since ignored the pleas of other pets telling us these things. We need a reminder from outside of the box.
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Read my posts with an open eye and between the lines and beyond your normal comfort zone. Stretch and imagine what you want, but without killing, maiming, manipulating. enslaving. Man does not have to be the monster, just as the alien does not. Both can be yet better together, but only if both accept each others existence and right to grow without violence, deception.

I believe in man and I believe he can accept truth. I want to believe he can grow beyond his violence.

Last Edited by We Who Watch on 12/02/2010 09:29 PM
7 Billion people on the planet!
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And I am one.
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Reading up...
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look to the the past and recognise the gold meme, the slavery meme, and the conquering gene. Look hard at the truth. Look at indignious cultures, how most lived in obscure peace, a peace of the ancients and all previous relations. The natural world of the aether before the firment collapsed, a beautiful world of peace. If you know of these days then you are of this plane. The rest well it may be "we are the aliens". Or alien to this planet or plane. Love is all powerful, the kenetic energy resting in motion.

blessings before you blessings behind you above and below you in this walking life.
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why would aliens care about what happens to us? they dont care if we nuke this planet either as their are endless amount of planets that are like earth out in the solar system...majority are larger than this puny planet anyways.
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Will be offline for about an hour while I help another human. 8^) I will check this later and respond to questions, comments, and anything else meaningful.

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5a
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Will be offline for about an hour while I help another human. 8^) I will check this later and respond to questions, comments, and anything else meaningful.
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Ack! Got caught by another trick of man. Hook you with half the story, then when you are halfway in, the other shoe drops!
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5a
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I feel so much better now!
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Read my posts with an open eye and between the lines and beyond your normal comfort zone. Stretch and imagine what you want, but without killing, maiming, manipulating. enslaving. Man does not have to be the monster, just as the alien does not. Both can be yet better together, but only if both accept each others existence and right to grow without violence, deception.

I believe in man and I believe he can accept truth. I want to believe he can grow beyond his violence.
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I believe that as well, or I would have left already. The problem I have is I don't see a way to accomplish that until the full and uncensored truth about who humanity's origin and what has happened since then is told. My point was I don't see humanity, as a whole, accepting that information from any terrestrial source. Various methods of that have been tried over the last 2000 years and had very little success. Humanity needs to be given the full truth from an outside source and then left on it's own to decide what to do next.

We don't need to be rescued, just informed.
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Read my posts with an open eye and between the lines and beyond your normal comfort zone. Stretch and imagine what you want, but without killing, maiming, manipulating. enslaving. Man does not have to be the monster, just as the alien does not. Both can be yet better together, but only if both accept each others existence and right to grow without violence, deception.

I believe in man and I believe he can accept truth. I want to believe he can grow beyond his violence.


I believe that as well, or I would have left already. The problem I have is I don't see a way to accomplish that until the full and uncensored truth about who humanity's origin and what has happened since then is told. My point was I don't see humanity, as a whole, accepting that information from any terrestrial source. Various methods of that have been tried over the last 2000 years and had very little success. Humanity needs to be given the full truth from an outside source and then left on it's own to decide what to do next.

We don't need to be rescued, just informed.
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That gets my vote, but it would be up to powers beyond TPTB. That drives TPTB crazy; something they cannot control.
7 Billion people on the planet!
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why would aliens care about what happens to us? they dont care if we nuke this planet either as their are endless amount of planets that are like earth out in the solar system...majority are larger than this puny planet anyways.
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Earth is beautiful from space! The dark side lights up and is more impressive than the grandest Christmas tree!

Aliens care, but they must consider who owns the planet. They come and go, study mankind in various ways (no they do not probe you the vile ways some enjoy repeating.) In short, they abide by their own tenets, not man's.

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7 Billion people on the planet!
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And I am one.
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They would be suprised we lasted this long without wiping each other out
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They would be surprised we lasted this long without wiping each other out
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Who says you did not?
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They would be surprised we lasted this long without wiping each other out

Who says you did not?
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what?
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Remember the story of Noah came from somewhere. Consider.
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Remember the story of Noah came from somewhere. Consider.
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true, true
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Something tells me this world will NOT change for the better. Though, 99% of us are OCD AND ADD, maybe, just MAYBE, if you grab the majority of our attention the most appropriately approachable way possible, there just may be room for instanteous change... but I seriously doubt aliens have it in them to control such a dramatic situation such as ours. I'm betting that we're the ONLY SINGLE civilisation in this entire galaxy that's fucked ourselves over in such a precarious fashion. Goodluck to ya'll, if your leader thinks its too much, maybe he/she's right. If one of your peon's think it can be done, ask him if he's spent his entire life pondering the thought of un-tangling humanities error and see if hes up for the job.

Or y'know, steal a shetload of our laptops, or buy perhaps? and try finding the most appropriate site to begin understanding the human perspective. That would be step 1 for a alien me thinks...
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be a partner who trades their creativity for knowledge and in so doing devise new concepts and uses for the knowledge
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Added this to my list of longings.

hf
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Something tells me this world will NOT change for the better. Though, 99% of us are OCD AND ADD, maybe, just MAYBE, if you grab the majority of our attention the most appropriately approachable way possible, there just may be room for instanteous change... but I seriously doubt aliens have it in them to control such a dramatic situation such as ours. I'm betting that we're the ONLY SINGLE civilisation in this entire galaxy that's fucked ourselves over in such a precarious fashion. Goodluck to ya'll, if your leader thinks its too much, maybe he/she's right. If one of your peon's think it can be done, ask him if he's spent his entire life pondering the thought of un-tangling humanities error and see if hes up for the job.

Or y'know, steal a shetload of our laptops, or buy perhaps? and try finding the most appropriate site to begin understanding the human perspective. That would be step 1 for a alien me thinks...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1162891

They see; they have invested much effort to do so, to understand, to attempt to bridge. They can fix the planet; they can fix the governments. they cannot give themselves dominion over man and his planet.

They have their tenets; that is one. They deal with trading partners and cultural agreements, not aggressive planetary takeovers. They enjoy cultural difference.
7 Billion people on the planet!
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be a partner who trades their creativity for knowledge and in so doing devise new concepts and uses for the knowledge

Added this to my list of longings.

hf
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mine too, mine too....
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Wait, aren't we being controlled by shape shifting reptillians? If so, then i'd hope the aliens would take that into consideration before they begin to preach about how stupid and evil we are... can they really blame us carbon sacks for being influenced by such a race? I don't know... maybe because the aliens haven't intervened yet is indicative of something more sinister happening on this planet... FUCK I WISH I HAD ANWSERS THIS SHIT JUST HURTS MY BRAIN!!
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I believe aliens would be a product of a war crafting civilization exactly as ours. Technology appears to advance only by competition, which is a product of aggression. Warriors, true ones, train to defend innocence. Naivete' cannot exist without the strength and fire within to protect it. Ying and Yang. Good must have evil to grow. The greatest human being and most loathe-some human being are only a thought away. Any good and loving act can be negated as an evil and hateful act as well.
Please excuse my tangent but I believe human beings are the greatest things in the universe. When you look in the eyes of a young child and the potential for greatness there, how can one not sit back and be in awe. Whatever someone's religious point of view is, whether we are created or evolved, each individual human has the potential for "unlimited awe."
Thanks OP for a thought provoking post.
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He crushes his own kind even when it serves no useful purpose.
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Serves as a mirror for other humans to realize what they are not. Motivation to disconnect from that reality and start creating ones own.

hf
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Wait, aren't we being controlled by shape shifting reptillians? If so, then i'd hope the aliens would take that into consideration before they begin to preach about how stupid and evil we are... can they really blame us carbon sacks for being influenced by such a race? I don't know... maybe because the aliens haven't intervened yet is indicative of something more sinister happening on this planet... FUCK I WISH I HAD ANWSERS THIS SHIT JUST HURTS MY BRAIN!!
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No. NO shape shifting reptilians. Earth is a protected planet right now, in more ways than one. The planet is a treasure trove as a port of call.
7 Billion people on the planet!
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its more like parents - child game
we play with energies
we examine results
we act moral or unethical
we are predictable and not

some sort of hope mixed with frustration
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My only wish is that something is done about the lack of E.T. awareness on this planet. I don't care if they take out the deceivers or not, it won't matter either way if the majority become aware of their presense. And considering what you say OP, if this race is benevolent. got the know-how of what it would take to purchase a ride on one of those fancy ships? Too much crap in the air here, be nice to get away from it for a day. hehe :)
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be a partner who trades their creativity for knowledge and in so doing devise new concepts and uses for the knowledge

Added this to my list of longings.

hf

mine too, mine too....
 Quoting: We Who Watch

Then you understand the longing was already there. By your post you triggered the awareness of it in me. Never thought of creativity as a barter.

I am on the brink of entering a community of beings and now you gave me an next age tool extra.

hf
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I believe aliens would be a product of a war crafting civilization exactly as ours. Technology appears to advance only by competition, which is a product of aggression. Warriors, true ones, train to defend innocence. Naivete' cannot exist without the strength and fire within to protect it. Ying and Yang. Good must have evil to grow. The greatest human being and most loathe-some human being are only a thought away. Any good and loving act can be negated as an evil and hateful act as well.
Please excuse my tangent but I believe human beings are the greatest things in the universe. When you look in the eyes of a young child and the potential for greatness there, how can one not sit back and be in awe. Whatever someone's religious point of view is, whether we are created or evolved, each individual human has the potential for "unlimited awe."
Thanks OP for a thought provoking post.
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If man and his planet did not have so very much potential, others would not be giving them so much attention. They have gone so far as to agree that it is to be a protected planet and a protected species. Most worry mankind cannot overcome his fears and hates. Some few believe that man can. All hope that he can.
7 Billion people on the planet!
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And I am one.
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its more like parents - child game
we play with energies
we examine results
we act moral or unethical
we are predictable and not

some sort of hope mixed with frustration
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Thank you friend. it is good to hear from your side of the world. You prove that man can "get it" understand if "it" is presented to him without the government's spin and control.
7 Billion people on the planet!
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And I am one.
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My only wish is that something is done about the lack of E.T. awareness on this planet. I don't care if they take out the deceivers or not, it won't matter either way if the majority become aware of their presense. And considering what you say OP, if this race is benevolent. got the know-how of what it would take to purchase a ride on one of those fancy ships? Too much crap in the air here, be nice to get away from it for a day. hehe :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1162891

Races. And benevolence is not their motive. They want to trade and exchange culture under an agreement, without the drama of man's nature of violence and control. Earth is a beautiful planet and would be an excellent port of call. They also do not want to frighten or over-enlighten human understanding and development.

As for a ride, I suspect you have a better chance at such than I. I am a tool, modified, tainted goods, no longer pure.

Would it surprise you if you learned they had GOD, considered him to be the same as Earth's; one GOD for the universe who has been a guiding light to unite differing races of the universe. The GOD concept. Strong stuff.

Would you believe a simple notion saved them from the ravages of ever increasing ability to destroy? It was such a simple idea. The species which is best able to measure small and large in GOD's universe is the "winner."

Governments are not destroyed. Planets and populaces do not change hands. One side merely gives deference to the other should decisions be required without conference.

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