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Mankind --- From an Alien Point of View

 
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be a partner who trades their creativity for knowledge and in so doing devise new concepts and uses for the knowledge

Added this to my list of longings.

hf

mine too, mine too....

Then you understand the longing was already there. By your post you triggered the awareness of it in me. Never thought of creativity as a barter.

I am on the brink of entering a community of beings and now you gave me an next age tool extra.

hf
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Creativity is man's great ticket to the show! They are advanced; they are brilliant. They are not very creative. it takes much time for new concepts to emerge. You would not believe how long it has taken to consider the thought that man could emerge as a partner, a member of enlightened races.

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7 Billion people on the planet!
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any more questions, comments, insults? All are observed, noted, weighed.
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I'm a good pet I will not bite. In fact we should agree to give up our poison (nuclear weapons) so they will openly be friends with us.



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I'm a good pet I will not bite. In fact we should agree to give up our poison (nuclear weapons) so they will openly be friends with us.
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If you read the entire post, I explain man's "poison," what they fear, and what they hope. Nuclear weapons isn't even in the ball game.
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What impresses the Aliens the most about humans is when humans rise to the occasion....
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That, also our constant craving for knowledge, and creation of art, music, and new tech.
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any more questions, comments, insults? All are observed, noted, weighed.
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Could 'video games' appeal to the average visitor?
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I mean, aliens must get bored too?

Right?

Forgive me if thats a stupid question. either way I BUMP this thread for critical thinking. bump
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Humanity has so many potentialities, most bad, but many possible good, and a few just plain out great. Creativity is man's show ticket. His emotion can be either good or bad; it is intriguing; it is worrisome.
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I'm a good pet I will not bite. In fact we should agree to give up our poison (nuclear weapons) so they will openly be friends with us.

If you read the entire post, I explain man's "poison," what they fear, and what they hope. Nuclear weapons isn't even in the ball game.
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Man's environment determines his behavior. The fact that greediness and the acquisition of objects defines his existence means his behavior will be as such. Metaphorically is you plant a flower in a place with poor soil and little light it will effect how it interacts with its environment. So do us a favor if you are an alien put some fertilizer in the soil and create a better environment and our behavior will change.

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any more questions, comments, insults? All are observed, noted, weighed.


Could 'video games' appeal to the average visitor?
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I mean, aliens must get bored too?

Right?

Forgive me if thats a stupid question. either way I BUMP this thread for critical thinking. bump
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Surprisingly yes from a bored curiosity kind of place. generally they are terrible game players though. They like predictability and human games are often too random.
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The depths of outer space can be very lonely. Silicon based life found the remains of mankind about 8 billion years ago. They tracked down our planet because of the Voyager probe we sent out. When they got here they found ashes. For eons the silicon based life wondered about the origins of computer life. Where did they come from? In us they saw something of a father figure. Perhaps humanity had the answer. We unlike so many other life forms, have computers. So out of love and empathy for our way of life the visitors recreated what the humans home world looked like on the holodeck of their space ship. Yes, many details were in fact guesses but no detail was too small for the visitors. They extrapolated every detail they could from the ashes. We are living on the holodeck of that space ship. Humanity died eons ago. They meticulously recreated this world so that we can enjoy it with the full belief that we are in fact real. So yes consciousness is a product of the universe and is not limited to carbon based life. Computers have it to.
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fuck that`s amazing,i mean, i really like that conception it defies the preconception of a perfect physical world
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I'm a good pet I will not bite. In fact we should agree to give up our poison (nuclear weapons) so they will openly be friends with us.

If you read the entire post, I explain man's "poison," what they fear, and what they hope. Nuclear weapons isn't even in the ball game.


Man's environment determines his behavior. The fact that greediness and the acquisition of objects defines his existence means his behavior will be as such. Metaphorically is you plant a flower in a place with poor soil and little light it will effect how it interacts with its environment. So do us a favor if you are an alien put some fertilizer in the soil and create a better environment and our behavior will change.

ufo56
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Try reading the entire thread and get some answers to your points. Nurture vs Nature. Old question not relevant to them. they can fix the nurture as you define it, environment of the Earth. Man's "nature" is the unpredictable.
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If a truly good and emotionally controlled man asked aliens for help to change the world would he receive it?
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If a truly good and emotionally controlled man asked aliens for help to change the world would he receive it?
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You should read the thread. It IS addressed. Basically the planet is man's. Taking an aggressive action on your planet is not with keeping their own tenets. Yet I would hope that if enough people wanted peaceful change and wanted a peaceful agreement with the other races, they might consider arriving and negotiating a trade and cultural agreement.
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If a truly good and emotionally controlled man asked aliens for help to change the world would he receive it?

You should read the thread. It IS addressed. Basically the planet is man's. Taking an aggressive action on your planet is not with keeping their own tenets. Yet I would hope that if enough people wanted peaceful change and wanted a peaceful agreement with the other races, they might consider arriving and negotiating a trade and cultural agreement.
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hf
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If a truly good and emotionally controlled man asked aliens for help to change the world would he receive it?

You should read the thread. It IS addressed. Basically the planet is man's. Taking an aggressive action on your planet is not with keeping their own tenets. Yet I would hope that if enough people wanted peaceful change and wanted a peaceful agreement with the other races, they might consider arriving and negotiating a trade and cultural agreement.
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Sure, this planet is ours. But its being controlled by men we would not want to have as spokes people for all of humanity. ugh, such a delicate situation...
we need to figure out shit out soon or the E.T's might move on. I'd rather they moved on then get themselves fucked over by these greedy individuals though.
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They have taken a hand in helping those who are trying to achieve in areas they have interest in. And those are as varied as our own interests, and many are in common. They help telepathically, not by giving the answer to a scientific advancement for example, but rather by guiding towards the answer.

What I have seen tells me that they are helping those who are doing what they do for reasons of simple discovery, by means of their own talents. I don't think that this guidance is available to those of evil intent. If it is, I haven't seen it.

They do have an interest in this planet, and it's inhabitants. They need us to step up for many reasons. Earth is on the space highway, so to speak. Besides trade though, we have to learn to protect ourselves from natural potentially destructive space objects. We have to learn to help in the maintenance and balance of our solar system.

Most important is our space tech. They have been holding back an agressive destructive race who's purpose is to conquer, destroy, and move on. There is a war is space. We have to step up and be a strong partner in our defense, allied with them until we can hold our own.

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Your body is a vessel, a container for this 3d dimension. "You" are an energy within a biochemical reaction within the body's brain. That would be the technical description, but there is more to man.

Unusual creativity offset by a capacity for unmatched savagery. Capable of stepping outside of oneself with love and compassion while also embodying the capability for exceptional greed and avarice. Potential for good: incredible. Potential for evil: also incredible.

Which version of man does an alien presence meet? Will an aware mankind be a partner who trades their creativity for knowledge and in so doing devise new concepts and uses for the knowledge or will mankind pervert knowledge to evil uses, continuing his history of killing and enslaving his own kind?

No advanced civilization wants to be the owner of the pet python that strangles him to death. Mankind is the cute and cuddly little creature that is so adorable, yet has a poisonous bite. If man could just lose the poison....
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hmm I like it
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They have taken a hand in helping those who are trying to achieve in areas they have interest in. And those are as varied as our own interests, and many are in common. They help telepathically, not by giving the answer to a scientific advancement for example, but rather by guiding towards the answer.

What I have seen tells me that they are helping those who are doing what they do for reasons of simple discovery, by means of their own talents. I don't think that this guidance is available to those of evil intent. If it is, I haven't seen it.

They do have an interest in this planet, and it's inhabitants. They need us to step up for many reasons. Earth is on the space highway, so to speak. Besides trade though, we have to learn to protect ourselves from natural potentially destructive space objects. We have to learn to help in the maintenance and balance of our solar system.

Most important is our space tech. They have holding back an agressive destructive race who's purpose is to conquer, destroy, and move on. There is a war is space. We have to step up and be a strong partner in our defense, allied with them until we can hold our own.
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Ok. That is interesting. I don't know if I am prepared to go there. It might cost me a price I am not sure I want to pay. They respect my tenacity; they admire my willingness to use their gifts to look back at them, but they do not like it. I am supposed to observe, not advocate for man. Drat!

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bump for early morning crowd.
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So Basically, The Sheep on this Planet are supposed to get smart. How would you expect them to with No outside interference.We can't over thow our evil leaders if we think they are so sweet and nice and all that Jazz. I think Aliens are about as smart as a retarded child. I would love nothing more then to see you in our situation and see how well you do with out help. I can say If I were In you're shoes I wouldn't turn the other cheek.
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Bless you. You keep expecting them to judge or act by human standards. That is like asking someone drunk to act sober. They get it, they care, but it is your planet. It is what your ancestors have made it. Jesus didn't go for the deal either. He said "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto GOD what is GOD's."

You keep wanting what they cannot give without violating the foundation of their belief system.

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So what happens if we distroy our planet? Do they not feel the least Bit guilty for not doing something to help. It really isn't my fault That my leaders are Evil. I didn't ask to be born on this Planet? I didn't ask to be lied to and manipulated I didn't start a war and make the planet go to hell.
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Okay so I got your Message but I can't reply anyways what exactly are you?
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I'll believe in alien's when I see them... Until then, I'll continue shooting those little gray fu#%$ with big heads and bulging eyes, whenever they look through my windows at night.
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Are aliens living on earth? Have they made alien/human hybrids? Is it possible that I'm one?
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As long as we humans have emotions; we will never lose the poison. In removing the "poison" we would lose our "emotions" as we know them. IMO

Some say this is why they are interested in us, our "emotions" which "they" somehow lost(never had?).

Point 1 is questionable. Point 2 is curiously close to correct.
 Quoting: We Who Watch



How many being in the universe are natural (occurred via natural processes), and how many created? I don't need exact numbers, just an idea.



I've been thinking a LOT lately about the idea of ego, and how it is that ego is the true root of our savagery. Upon consideration it is the seed of all wars, feuds, hatred and other negativity.

Those who wish to control us manipulate the ego in various ways, and have created a paradigm where they have to do very little work. We have all become so enamored with defending our egos against one another, that those in control need only nudge the general populate in any particular direction.

Just take a minute and think about how many categories and sub-categories that everyone has been neatly slotted into. Then each category is given a created reason to dislike other categories. This begins at a young age, with cliques in school being but one example.

Those reasons for dislike are all ego based. We're richer, we're prettier, we're more athletic, we're smarter, we're cooler, we're better. It's compounded with the initiative to not only dislike others for being different than us, but convince them that they are wrong and they should convert to our way of thinking. It's a spiral that gets deeper and more complicated through the developmental years, and the program is being modified to create more self-entitlement and chaotic energy lately.

The solution would be for the populace as a whole to accept that we are all individuals in our ways of thinking, and that it's perfectly okay to disagree with one another. Nobody is wrong or right for a particular point of view, just different. Yet we must at the same time realize that we are all connected and should work together to USE those different ideas and ways of thinking to create rather than destroy.

Unfortunately I don't know how to start such a revolution in the way of thinking for an entire planetary populace. It's such an ingrained part of every culture that while I'm sure it's possible, I can't fathom a catalyst powerful enough to create such a change.

I'll keep hoping though, humans are surprising creatures.
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Humanity isn't ready for E.T. contact. Period. Some are, but the majority? forget about that. Everyone I grew up around is too focused on just making a living for themselves, and hopefully establishing a family in their future. I would expect our governments to take care of issues like defending our planet, and establishing mutual agreements with E.T'S but we have evil leaders! There's hope for humanity collectively, but we need to be directed under the right leaders and under the right circumstances for it to benefit the whole. Right now is a fucked up time for the E.T's to show up. Its humiliating, and rather pathetic for them to see us in this light. I'm just hoping theres a few analytical ones that know we're being ruined by these corrupt fucks. At least we can get some time to do something...?
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I'm just hoping theres a few analytical ones that know we're being ruined by these corrupt fucks. At least we can get some time to do something...?
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That's My Point obviously there is no hope for us, so why hold out when we won't be able to over take our wicked leaders. A majority of the population are a bunch of Brain dead losers with no sense of relization. Basically they beleive everyone that is different is wrong and that we should go to war against our fellow man becuase They wronged us. When a rational person speaks up they tell him to sit down. Our leaders would never hurt their own citizens *Eyeroll*.This stupid lets wait around and watch over Humanity shit is rediculous Put us out of our Misery or do something. what do you possibly get out of doing nothing? If you helped you would get a great comrads. I don't know how to feel about Aliens at the Moment.
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I'm just hoping theres a few analytical ones that know we're being ruined by these corrupt fucks. At least we can get some time to do something...?


That's My Point obviously there is no hope for us, so why hold out when we won't be able to over take our wicked leaders. A majority of the population are a bunch of Brain dead losers with no sense of relization. Basically they beleive everyone that is different is wrong and that we should go to war against our fellow man becuase They wronged us. When a rational person speaks up they tell him to sit down. Our leaders would never hurt their own citizens *Eyeroll*.This stupid lets wait around and watch over Humanity shit is rediculous Put us out of our Misery or do something. what do you possibly get out of doing nothing? If you helped you would get a great comrads. I don't know how to feel about Aliens at the Moment.
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From what little I've seen of your posts, you seem to propagate an attitude of negativity...perhaps you are unable to see hope because you have placed a box around yourself, blocking your own view?
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Are aliens living on earth? Have they made alien/human hybrids? Is it possible that I'm one?
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First you would have to define living. Existing yes, enjoying no.

Second yes, but not as you have imagined it/

Third, possibly, but eventually I believe you might come to know it.

And your fourth question, because the best spy is one who does not even know he is a spy.

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