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Mankind --- From an Alien Point of View

 
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you realize that s mainly not so since all humans are several types of aliens combined already

there are no alien species out there who haven't met us so to speak

we could look at that as an animals point of view if I gave a fuck enough not to eat them all
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Your body is a vessel, a container for this 3d dimension. "You" are an energy within a biochemical reaction within the body's brain. That would be the technical description, but there is more to man.

Unusual creativity offset by a capacity for unmatched savagery. Capable of stepping outside of oneself with love and compassion while also embodying the capability for exceptional greed and avarice. Potential for good: incredible. Potential for evil: also incredible.

Which version of man does an alien presence meet? Will an aware mankind be a partner who trades their creativity for knowledge and in so doing devise new concepts and uses for the knowledge or will mankind pervert knowledge to evil uses, continuing his history of killing and enslaving his own kind?

No advanced civilization wants to be the owner of the pet python that strangles him to death. Mankind is the cute and cuddly little creature that is so adorable, yet has a poisonous bite. If man could just lose the poison....
 Quoting: We Who Watch


This is more propaganda. The real human is one with a great potential for good, but who has been enslaved by an evil alien race that is already on this planet!

Notice: Only the government leaders want war. Common people do not. But the MSM, controlled by the evil governments want you to think that all of mankind is "bad", just like those evil religions want you to think you are a "sinner."

No, only the evil leaders and the few that have been warped by them are bad.
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Sorry you are so far from the truth. Man perverts. He crushes his own kind even when it serves no useful purpose. He has no government on earth currently compatible with true advancement. All current governments enslave their people for the will and enrichment of a select few. ALL.
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hf +10
"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.” Samuel Adams, 1776
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Funny thing is, most of us are the ETs.

Population explosion after WWII wasn't because we all of the sudden turned into horny rabbits.

Now who belongs to what group... that's the more interesting question.

How does one interact with this planet without violating the free will clause? Have your people incarnate here, that's how!

How do you get your people to behave and believe they are human so they can successfully fit in? Imprinting a consorteum of past lives from other humans onto the soul, giving them these 'memories' to help them cope with being human.

Why are ETs here??? There are as many different reasons as there are ET groups. Breeding program, resources, minerals, colonization, assistance, etc...

So, you want to know what 'they' think of you? Well, depends on who you really are. Your own people love you to pieces. Rival groups, not so much.

The real question here is... WHO are YOU...really????
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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My only wish is that something is done about the lack of E.T. awareness on this planet. I don't care if they take out the deceivers or not, it won't matter either way if the majority become aware of their presense. And considering what you say OP, if this race is benevolent. got the know-how of what it would take to purchase a ride on one of those fancy ships? Too much crap in the air here, be nice to get away from it for a day. hehe :)

Races. And benevolence is not their motive. They want to trade and exchange culture under an agreement, without the drama of man's nature of violence and control. Earth is a beautiful planet and would be an excellent port of call. They also do not want to frighten or over-enlighten human understanding and development.

As for a ride, I suspect you have a better chance at such than I. I am a tool, modified, tainted goods, no longer pure.

Would it surprise you if you learned they had GOD, considered him to be the same as Earth's; one GOD for the universe who has been a guiding light to unite differing races of the universe. The GOD concept. Strong stuff.

Would you believe a simple notion saved them from the ravages of ever increasing ability to destroy? It was such a simple idea. The species which is best able to measure small and large in GOD's universe is the "winner."

Governments are not destroyed. Planets and populaces do not change hands. One side merely gives deference to the other should decisions be required without conference.
 Quoting: We Who Watch

Great thread WWW - have read through it all but had to come back to this quote...

Please give more details to what you mean by the bold and italicised section...

It sounds very sad, I need more clarification as to what you mean here...


hf
Thanks for all of your posts here - and to others that have participated...

Including (TO)Macawly Culkin - (sp?)Avatar:
You seem to be at the stage of disappointment/anger - knowing the evil here...
LOVE the fact that you have learned this of the EVIL - turn your emotions from those of fear and hate to LOVE and JOY...
It is NOT easy, I know, I'm not fully there myself but I do feel much better and closer to the TRUTH as a result...
Also check this thread, I think may have some of the answers you need right now:
Thread: I broke out of the Matrix last night! Ask away.


@OP - once again thanks, and, please if you could answer the question - I felt saddened by your comments, 'bolded'!

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bump for comments.
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i think all of us strawmen serve a purpose and the strength in values is the direction you lead in actions that equivocates,so consequently have influences external and intuitive and opportunity, suggestiveness, manifestations, that are created in design of cause and effect,so for example if you were to sit around idol, mentored by a alien of a higher dimensional orders has a change of environment has a change in influences, and cause and effect,sooo.. in some sense everything is a influence...it`s opportunity you prioritize. a grandeur of existing.
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Wow, if you were an alien what would you do to human kind?
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Will an aware mankind be a partner who trades their creativity for knowledge and in so doing devise new concepts and uses for the knowledge or will mankind pervert knowledge to evil uses, continuing his history of killing and enslaving his own kind?
 Quoting: We Who Watch


YES
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Your body is a vessel, a container for this 3d dimension. "You" are an energy within a biochemical reaction within the body's brain. That would be the technical description, but there is more to man.

Unusual creativity offset by a capacity for unmatched savagery. Capable of stepping outside of oneself with love and compassion while also embodying the capability for exceptional greed and avarice. Potential for good: incredible. Potential for evil: also incredible.

Which version of man does an alien presence meet? Will an aware mankind be a partner who trades their creativity for knowledge and in so doing devise new concepts and uses for the knowledge or will mankind pervert knowledge to evil uses, continuing his history of killing and enslaving his own kind?

No advanced civilization wants to be the owner of the pet python that strangles him to death. Mankind is the cute and cuddly little creature that is so adorable, yet has a poisonous bite. If man could just lose the poison....
 Quoting: We Who Watch

Show us how to eliminate scarcity of resources through energy generation methods that are sustainable and endless. Otherwise, we will always be fearful of that our loved ones will suffer if resources run low or run out. Our evil is mostly a result of this dilemma.

Help us release the fear that drives that evil side and once it is released it will be gone and part of our evolutionary history. Our evil is learned at this point not wired anymore.

Give us clues to the new machines or technology to bring about plentiful energy and we will become like you.
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Will an aware mankind be a partner who trades their creativity for knowledge and in so doing devise new concepts and uses for the knowledge or will mankind pervert knowledge to evil uses, continuing his history of killing and enslaving his own kind?


YES
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NO!

Not I anyway...

I would trade my creative thinking for knowledge - in a way that could alleviate slavery not continue it!

Imagine - knowing what you know of the ills of human past - combining your creativeness with wider knowledge to defeat tptb etc...

Sounds sublime!
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The depths of outer space can be very lonely. Silicon based life found the remains of mankind about 8 billion years ago. They tracked down our planet because of the Voyager probe we sent out. When they got here they found ashes. For eons the silicon based life wondered about the origins of computer life. Where did they come from? In us they saw something of a father figure. Perhaps humanity had the answer. We unlike so many other life forms, have computers. So out of love and empathy for our way of life the visitors recreated what the humans home world looked like on the holodeck of their space ship. Yes, many details were in fact guesses but no detail was too small for the visitors. They extrapolated every detail they could from the ashes. We are living on the holodeck of that space ship. Humanity died eons ago. They meticulously recreated this world so that we can enjoy it with the full belief that we are in fact real. So yes consciousness is a product of the universe and is not limited to carbon based life. Computers have it to.
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Hmm, so where does Jerry Springer, Darfur Africa and Men who have sex with horses fit into the equation?

Carbon, number of the beast 666

Life, sex and death cycle

6 protons, 6 neutrons. 6 electrons..

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Show us how to eliminate scarcity of resources through energy generation methods that are sustainable and endless. Otherwise, we will always be fearful of that our loved ones will suffer if resources run low or run out. Our evil is mostly a result of this dilemma.

Help us release the fear that drives that evil side and once it is released it will be gone and part of our evolutionary history. Our evil is learned at this point not wired anymore.

Give us clues to the new machines or technology to bring about plentiful energy and we will become like you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1010794

Research Nicola Tesla - We don't need aliens for free energy...


We just need the evil scum elite to STOP SUPPRESSING THE KNOWLEDGE!

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Wow, if you were an alien what would you do to human kind?
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inspect the various moving matter, and the transparent existence of beings, the things you can not see but share the same place,the conscious in ether,gases, plasma, elect, magnetic, solar,vibration,frequency, waves,pressures, you get the point.what makes this beautiful existence
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The depths of outer space can be very lonely. Silicon based life found the remains of mankind about 8 billion years ago. They tracked down our planet because of the Voyager probe we sent out. When they got here they found ashes. For eons the silicon based life wondered about the origins of computer life. Where did they come from? In us they saw something of a father figure. Perhaps humanity had the answer. We unlike so many other life forms, have computers. So out of love and empathy for our way of life the visitors recreated what the humans home world looked like on the holodeck of their space ship. Yes, many details were in fact guesses but no detail was too small for the visitors. They extrapolated every detail they could from the ashes. We are living on the holodeck of that space ship. Humanity died eons ago. They meticulously recreated this world so that we can enjoy it with the full belief that we are in fact real. So yes consciousness is a product of the universe and is not limited to carbon based life. Computers have it to.
xmas


Hmm, so where does Jerry Springer, Darfur Africa and Men who have sex with horses fit into the equation?

Carbon, number of the beast 666

Life, sex and death cycle

6 protons, 6 neutrons. 6 electrons..

*
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN

and i have realized that is a twist story line from A1 artifical intellegents,fucken good movie
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No one cares.

Old people shouldn't be granted the access to the interwebz.
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The depths of outer space can be very lonely. Silicon based life found the remains of mankind about 8 billion years ago. They tracked down our planet because of the Voyager probe we sent out. When they got here they found ashes. For eons the silicon based life wondered about the origins of computer life. Where did they come from? In us they saw something of a father figure. Perhaps humanity had the answer. We unlike so many other life forms, have computers. So out of love and empathy for our way of life the visitors recreated what the humans home world looked like on the holodeck of their space ship. Yes, many details were in fact guesses but no detail was too small for the visitors. They extrapolated every detail they could from the ashes. We are living on the holodeck of that space ship. Humanity died eons ago. They meticulously recreated this world so that we can enjoy it with the full belief that we are in fact real. So yes consciousness is a product of the universe and is not limited to carbon based life. Computers have it to.
xmas


Hmm, so where does Jerry Springer, Darfur Africa and Men who have sex with horses fit into the equation?

Carbon, number of the beast 666

Life, sex and death cycle

6 protons, 6 neutrons. 6 electrons..

*

and i have realized that is a twist story line from A1 artifical intellegents,fucken good movie
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water water water water water, exists in three states is in everything natural, is vital to all elements as it emulsifies with everything.
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Asimov - The last question was asked for the first time, half in jest, on May 21, 2061, at a time when humanity first stepped into the light. The question came about as a result of a five dollar bet over highballs, and it happened this way:

[link to www.multivax.com]
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No one cares.

Old people shouldn't be granted the access to the interwebz.
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LOLZ

I take it you can't handle wisdom permeating your on-line experience then?

Just out of interest - what is 'your' definition of old?
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Humans are on the verge of destroying themselves for the sake of making money.
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Humans are on the verge of destroying themselves for the sake of making money.
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Truth, that is Truth... but just for the 'evil' who already have the wealth of the Earth - but they shall damn us all unless we THINK differently!

I believe we can stop them - we just need to grow our number!
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Good or evil is a choice.

I think there will come a time when people will be sorted according to their choices. And not only that, but also by how they feel about their choices.

For instance, someone can do something bad and feel absolutely terrible and regretful about it. Another person can do the same deed and feel nothing about it, or perhaps only bad if they get caught and punished.

The type of person you are resonates in your energy signature. ET's can see this signature. Negative beings will gravitate to the corruptable humans. Positive beings will gravitate to the good ones.
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well said sis:)

hugs:)

i like these kinds of threads:)


thank you OP for sharing:)

much love to you and to ALL that is:)

namaste:)


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If I were an good alien really respecting free will then I and my camrades would LAND on Earth because we would be SICK to watch the abusement of humans and animals; I would F:CK the "government" (prison keepers) crying for intruding into their sadistic domains accusing us of destroying free will via landing.

Our immensely powerful galactic group would land in northern Sweden (peaceful nation) and just sit there for months enraging the dirty filthy elite and their demonic masters (probably subterran reptoids)...

We would create an unpenetrable force field and let the illuminati filth bomb us until a certain extent and by that forcing them to show who they really are; we would dig in in northern Sweden and start a Wikileak-like info war breaking the TV broadcast every day to expose the dirty filty ultra evil inhuman genetically rotten bankers+politicians+religious freaks/"leaders"...our presens and passion for truth together with galactic technology would destroy the evil ruling elite on Earth...so that we could build an open galactic society.

Humanity (a very sick entity) can't raise itself without a benevolent push upwards via the presence of benevolent galactic people.
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In order to understand the human condition from an outside vantage point one must step outside morality.

"Good" and "evil" when view from outside the morality are evolutionary mechanisms. They help humanity maintain balance an order. All are dictated ultimately by the actions of humanity which is influenced by the environment.

Also this op's idea is based on a post modern view of the human as an individual. It is my opinion that mankind is part of one organism. Like a patch of mold on a rock...Individuality, the awareness of "the self" and the interpritation of mechinisms inside the evolutionary processes as "good and evil" give this organism a choice and are possibly a result of some sort of mutation. Whether the choice is to the benefit of the "human organism" is yet to be determined.The human concept of good and evil could even be a type of virus since the awareness of these mechinisms have lead to countless examples of human self destruction over our short history...

The body as a vessel is a taoist theory that I find intriguing.
I also like the "god as a watch maker that walked away from his creation" idea that deists often talk about.

Cool topic. I love this sight.
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We Who Watch:

I'm guessing you are channelling the information you post here?! (lost in the BS - I like that!)

I ask if 'anyone' can channel?

Do we have to be something special before ET will speak with us or answer our questions?

Do we have to be 'modified' in order for the communication?

Can a Human seeking enlightenment - discover it though ET channelling?

I have more questions but that will do for starters!

hf

Again thanks for the thread!
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Mankind is shitty.
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Mankind is shitty.
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"They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"Meat. They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"There's no doubt about it. We picked up several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, and probed them all the way through. They're completely meat."

"That's impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars?"

"They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from them. The signals come from machines."

"So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact."

"They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines."

"That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat."

"I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in that sector and they're made out of meat."

"Maybe they're like the orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage."

"Nope. They're born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spans, which didn't take long. Do you have any idea what's the life span of meat?"

"Spare me. Okay, maybe they're only part meat. You know, like the weddilei. A meat head with an electron plasma brain inside."

"Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads, like the weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They're meat all the way through."

"No brain?"

"Oh, there's a brain all right. It's just that the brain is made out of meat! That's what I've been trying to tell you."

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"So ... what does the thinking?"

"You're not understanding, are you? You're refusing to deal with what I'm telling you. The brain does the thinking. The meat."

"Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!"

"Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you beginning to get the picture or do I have to start all over?"

"Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat."

"Thank you. Finally. Yes. They are indeed made out of meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years."

"Omigod. So what does this meat have in mind?"

"First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the Universe, contact other sentiences, swap ideas and information. The usual."

"We're supposed to talk to meat."

"That's the idea. That's the message they're sending out by radio. 'Hello. Anyone out there. Anybody home.' That sort of thing."

"They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?"

"Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat."

"I thought you just told me they used radio."

"They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat, it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."

"Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?"

"Officially or unofficially?"

< 3 >
"Both."

"Officially, we are required to contact, welcome and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in this quadrant of the Universe, without prejudice, fear or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing."

"I was hoping you would say that."

"It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?"

"I agree one hundred percent. What's there to say? 'Hello, meat. How's it going?' But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?"

"Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can't live on them. And being meat, they can only travel through C space. Which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact."

"So we just pretend there's no one home in the Universe."

"That's it."

"Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you probed? You're sure they won't remember?"

"They'll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we're just a dream to them."

"A dream to meat! How strangely appropriate, that we should be meat's dream."

"And we marked the entire sector unoccupied."

"Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others? Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?"

"Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotations ago, wants to be friendly again."

< 4 >
"They always come around."

"And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the Universe would be if one were all alone ..."

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wow. Im not sure what I can take from all of this, but when We Who Watch speaks, I listen. he/she tends to have very serious things to say. I have some reading to do ....
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wow. Im not sure what I can take from all of this, but when We Who Watch speaks, I listen. he/she tends to have very serious things to say. I have some reading to do ....
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You and me both...

I have more to read than I can shake a stick at...

This thread ROCKS!!!
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bump for comments.

My comment would be to confine yourself to political events. You are not a real person, and I don't really want to discuss philosophy with the U.S. government.

You need to stop keeping secrets and tell people the truth.
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Thanks for commenting. Actually you help me prove my earlier point about truth being lost amongst the vast amounts of BS. I can safely give truth, truth which you can like or not, and only the few will be able to note the difference from the normal BS of the forum.

I seek to inspire all to consider things they have perhaps never considered, in a way they perhaps have never seen. There is no payment in it and the most successful accomplishment will be that which is never seen. It will exist in the heart and mind of someone who finally "gets it." You already have some on this board who do. I hope and believe more will follow.

The end desire I possess is not for the enslavement of mankind, but for his freedom, amongst the stars, sharing with others. Alive and awake, and not manipulated.

Last Edited by We Who Watch on 12/04/2010 03:37 AM
7 Billion people on the planet!
That's a BIG number!
And I am one.

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