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I thought when the student is ready the teacher will appear?

 
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You have to figure out first what is that you want to learn exactly, then just go and learn it. Be your own teacher.
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You have to figure out first what is that you want to learn exactly, then just go and learn it. Be your own teacher.
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Exactly. You are the one you have been waiting for. Once you figure that out, everything else will fall into place.
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If you are ready..

I feel I am and have been...how bout you
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You have to figure out first what is that you want to learn exactly, then just go and learn it. Be your own teacher.

Exactly. You are the one you have been waiting for. Once you figure that out, everything else will fall into place.
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That would be easy if it wasn't something like learning how to open the mind up to using more of the potential to unlock using abilities such as tk/pk/levitation/astral projection/remote viewing/changing your molecular density to pass through solid objects/shapeshifting at will/telepathy, ect. It's quite easy to learn how to do something seemingly ordinary like learning a new trade and gaining a new skill but something entirely different trying to master the mystery and secrets of the universe.

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If you are ready..

I feel I am and have been...how bout you

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Isn't it obvious? and i'm sorry, i'm not a pill junky but by all means if it helps you feel better Goofy Thum
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there are not enough students too fill the class still waiting for the kiddys to pass the 3rd age of man
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there are not enough students too fill the class still waiting for the kiddys to pass the 3rd age of man
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You have to figure out first what is that you want to learn exactly, then just go and learn it. Be your own teacher.

Exactly. You are the one you have been waiting for. Once you figure that out, everything else will fall into place.

That would be easy if it wasn't something like learning how to open the mind up to using more of the potential to unlock using abilities such as tk/pk/levitation/astral projection/remote viewing/changing your molecular density to pass through solid objects/shapeshifting at will/telepathy, ect. It's quite easy to learn how to do something seemingly ordinary like learning a new trade and gaining a new skill but something entirely different trying to master the mystery and secrets of the universe.
 Quoting: unspoken411

most defiantly

How can a chilled learn to spell a word if they don't yet know the letters of the alphabet

Teachers are needed you don't just figure it out all on your own unless completely by accident

There is a starting point in anything we need grade 1 to be developed I would guess meditation would be a good start
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You have to figure out first what is that you want to learn exactly, then just go and learn it. Be your own teacher.

Exactly. You are the one you have been waiting for. Once you figure that out, everything else will fall into place.

That would be easy if it wasn't something like learning how to open the mind up to using more of the potential to unlock using abilities such as tk/pk/levitation/astral projection/remote viewing/changing your molecular density to pass through solid object/shapeshifting at will/telepathy, ect. It's quite easy to learn how to do something seemingly ordinary like learning a new trade and gaining a new skill but something entirely different trying to master the mystery and secrets of the universe.
 Quoting: unspoken411



what is your intent though?
is it to brag about how much you know or to have others marvel at your 'abilities' and knowledge

or is it to help heal yourself and others


mediation on the purpose of acquiring such 'tools' is where i'd start
and be honest with yourself
really honest

i'd spend a lot of time understanding yourself and your motivation and refining that before i'd wish to play with unseen forces of unlimited power

you can get yourself into a lot of trouble by running before you can walk
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You have to figure out first what is that you want to learn exactly, then just go and learn it. Be your own teacher.

Exactly. You are the one you have been waiting for. Once you figure that out, everything else will fall into place.

That would be easy if it wasn't something like learning how to open the mind up to using more of the potential to unlock using abilities such as tk/pk/levitation/astral projection/remote viewing/changing your molecular density to pass through solid objects/shapeshifting at will/telepathy, ect. It's quite easy to learn how to do something seemingly ordinary like learning a new trade and gaining a new skill but something entirely different trying to master the mystery and secrets of the universe.
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You should understand that this human form is sustainable, and unlocking those abilities makes it less sustainable and more vulnerable. It took a long time to achieve this form and there's no way back without a loss in these two aspects.
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Re: I thought when the student is ready the teacher will appear?
You have to figure out first what is that you want to learn exactly, then just go and learn it. Be your own teacher.

Exactly. You are the one you have been waiting for. Once you figure that out, everything else will fall into place.

That would be easy if it wasn't something like learning how to open the mind up to using more of the potential to unlock using abilities such as tk/pk/levitation/astral projection/remote viewing/changing your molecular density to pass through solid object/shapeshifting at will/telepathy, ect. It's quite easy to learn how to do something seemingly ordinary like learning a new trade and gaining a new skill but something entirely different trying to master the mystery and secrets of the universe.



what is your intent though?
is it to brag about how much you know or to have others marvel at your 'abilities' and knowledge

or is it to help heal yourself and others


mediation on the purpose of acquiring such 'tools' is where i'd start
and be honest with yourself
really honest

i'd spend a lot of time understanding yourself and your motivation and refining that before i'd wish to play with unseen forces of unlimited power

you can get yourself into a lot of trouble by running before you can walk
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1175409

Very true, and I have pondered and meditated on my intentions thoroughly and have concluded my motivation to be a logical step in my spiritual evolution. I would try my best not to use it for ego. I'm not saying I want limitless power all at once or anything like that lol...just to be initiated into the mysteries of understanding how these things work with a hands on approach if that makes sense from a teacher who has done these things and would be willinjg to teach or by other means if possible through my own methods with meditation. If we have the spirit of god inside us then there is no excuse for us to be in such a limited state of being and it acts as a splinter in my mind that I keep on trying to dig out BUT IT KEEPS DIGGIN IT'S WAY IN without sympathy. I find no contemptment in my understanding anymore of these things. I get tired of reading stories of people who have incredible experiences with these things and i'm sure there are many others who feel exactly the same. I know that even if all these powers were given I would still lack understanding and would barely scratch the surface of what it is to know god which makes it all the more frustrating.....I have already put the energy out there, seems like i'm just waiting for the universe to respond. I do believe in miracles/acts of god as I have witnessed many so perhaps that is what i'm really asking for...a miracle, but who isn't right lol and would I have the integrity to do what's right if enlightenment in all things was mine/bestowed upon me...I would like to think yes

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You have to figure out first what is that you want to learn exactly, then just go and learn it. Be your own teacher.

Exactly. You are the one you have been waiting for. Once you figure that out, everything else will fall into place.

That would be easy if it wasn't something like learning how to open the mind up to using more of the potential to unlock using abilities such as tk/pk/levitation/astral projection/remote viewing/changing your molecular density to pass through solid objects/shapeshifting at will/telepathy, ect. It's quite easy to learn how to do something seemingly ordinary like learning a new trade and gaining a new skill but something entirely different trying to master the mystery and secrets of the universe.



You should understand that this human form is sustainable, and unlocking those abilities makes it less sustainable and more vulnerable. It took a long time to achieve this form and there's no way back without a loss in these two aspects.
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how do you know such things? and what exactly do you mean by this?
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If you're looking for the secret of the universe, according to Edward Leedskalnin it's 7129 610 5195. He used it to build Coral Castle. More info on youtube.
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99.9999% do not even know how to, or what ready is.
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If you're looking for the secret of the universe, according to Edward Leedskalnin it's 7129 610 5195. He used it to build Coral Castle. More info on youtube.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1093891

That would help if I was a mathematician or numerologist lol Never really undertood number enigma's but apparently they're a big deal...language of the universe supposebly
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op .. you are blinded by your senses.
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99.9999% do not even know how to, or what ready is.
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It's ok, it'll just be that more better when it does come to you ura
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Maybe it's time for you to begin to explore the non-physical universes.


Then what do you know?

Well, I know many things but it seems like they're things/perceptions or perhaps some sense of awareness that is holding me back from realizing what needs to be seen to break the illusion of this limiting state of being...transcending limitation in the physcial/spiritual to be truly free and independent in this life. Feels like i'm walking through life as if in a dream state and at times the sensation can be overwhelming and the awareness powerful but it never really seems to give anything of much revelation anymore...just seems like i'm waiting to be taught some great secret to take me to the next stage of awareness in these mysteries...
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Nothing really matters. Unless you think it does.
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op .. you are blinded by your senses.
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perhaps but I am no fool, I know that not only are these things possible...they're probable, it's just finding the key to unlock those secret doors of the mind, nothing is ever as it seems...ever

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Maybe it's time for you to begin to explore the non-physical universes.




Then what do you know?

Well, I know many things but it seems like they're things/perceptions or perhaps some sense of awareness that is holding me back from realizing what needs to be seen to break the illusion of this limiting state of being...transcending limitation in the physcial/spiritual to be truly free and independent in this life. Feels like i'm walking through life as if in a dream state and at times the sensation can be overwhelming and the awareness powerful but it never really seems to give anything of much revelation anymore...just seems like i'm waiting to be taught some great secret to take me to the next stage of awareness in these mysteries...

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Have been trying but only manage to get there through dreams...*sigh* Would be nice to experience these things in the physical
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Have been trying but only manage to get there through dreams...*sigh* Would be nice to experience these things in the physical
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Don't sell dreams short. If you're having *lucid* dreams, then you're on your way. The difference between a lucid dream and an OBE is how much consciousness you bring with you.

If you are insufficiently conscious, then you will experience environments created by your sub-conscious. If you are sufficiently conscious, then you will create your own environment, or meltdown the dreamscape and explore other-created environments.

If you're just having regular dreams with no lucidity, then you're barely glimpsing alternate reality with the least amount of consciousness of all.
Nothing really matters. Unless you think it does.
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The more you consciously experience there, in the astral, the more you will experience here in the physical.

Your very nature is astral - it's the part of you that inhabits the physical and yearns for more than the mere physical because you know there is so much more.

Develop your astral awareness, then you will expand your physical awareness.
Nothing really matters. Unless you think it does.
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You have to figure out first what is that you want to learn exactly, then just go and learn it. Be your own teacher.

Exactly. You are the one you have been waiting for. Once you figure that out, everything else will fall into place.

That would be easy if it wasn't something like learning how to open the mind up to using more of the potential to unlock using abilities such as tk/pk/levitation/astral projection/remote viewing/changing your molecular density to pass through solid objects/shapeshifting at will/telepathy, ect. It's quite easy to learn how to do something seemingly ordinary like learning a new trade and gaining a new skill but something entirely different trying to master the mystery and secrets of the universe.
 Quoting: unspoken411


If you want you can call me teacher but I mostly educated myself.

I beleive all of the above 'powers' possible and beleif is powerful in itself. Raise vibrations with hig vibrational frequencies, or by eating correctly to make sure your body is of a high vibrational state and functioning properly to begin with.

Simple things like deep breathing, yoga and meditation combined with Proper thought process or something alike positive affirmations and visualizations done with knowledge of the universe and the mechanisms behind all forces and a clean pute temple (healthy body). The imagination is the limit, as it may seem this might be a dream within a dream.

The Matrix i suspect may be the overlaying phones radiowaves, air pollution, negative emotions, haarp etc.. causing or preparing to cause out purpose to be so clouded and forgotten that we seek things we need not.

I think i am not ready for the teacher, I think i am okay with staying here to make your hell my heaven. I don't want to become something so awesome my memories of life become too distant to remember.


Emotions and opinions are we, ruined are eden you see, we create tomorrow and what will be, don't try to hide or flee.
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"when the student is ready the teacher will appear"

It's different than that.
The Teacher is the part of yourself that sees things in a different way and has a deeper understanding.

No Guru. No magic tricks.
But it can FEEL that way.

Like one part of you is living your regular Life, and another part is able to observe it at another level. Seeing subtle connections. Understanding things.

I think meditation helps. A drastic change in the way you live, even temporarily, will help to. With that goal in mind.

Keep in mind that most of the really cool stuff that you hear about happening to people is usually spontaneous and cannot be reproduced at will. All the ESP/Astral travel stuff etc.
Sometimes, for whatever reason, that stuff just happens. Wandering Cozmic Vortexes or something. :P

This is worth really thinking about:
Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.
After enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.
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Have been trying but only manage to get there through dreams...*sigh* Would be nice to experience these things in the physical


Don't sell dreams short. If you're having *lucid* dreams, then you're on your way. The difference between a lucid dream and an OBE is how much consciousness you bring with you.

If you are insufficiently conscious, then you will experience environments created by your sub-conscious. If you are sufficiently conscious, then you will create your own environment, or meltdown the dreamscape and explore other-created environments.

If you're just having regular dreams with no lucidity, then you're barely glimpsing alternate reality with the least amount of consciousness of all.
 Quoting: gnostic

Thanks for your advice, most of my dreams are very lucid but i'm hardly ever conscious in them. I have only been conscious/fully coherent a few times, one of which led me to an OBE but when I become aware I wake up from a sense of excitment you can say. I have heard people say it is so easy but it hasn't been for me...I have tried to work on it really hard and my first obe was when I wasn't even trying lol...typical lol

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You should understand that this human form is sustainable, and unlocking those abilities makes it less sustainable and more vulnerable. It took a long time to achieve this form and there's no way back without a loss in these two aspects.


how do you know such things? and what exactly do you mean by this?
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I mean exactly what AC1175409 said:

you can get yourself into a lot of trouble by running before you can walk
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How do I know such things. I know this exactly by walking this path you want to follow making a lot of mistakes, so I want to save you a lot of time and efforts. Be careful with your wishes, be sure about what you want to know and why you want to know it, control the way you think, don't motivate your actions by egotism - and you'll be ok. :)
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You have to figure out first what is that you want to learn exactly, then just go and learn it. Be your own teacher.

Exactly. You are the one you have been waiting for. Once you figure that out, everything else will fall into place.

That would be easy if it wasn't something like learning how to open the mind up to using more of the potential to unlock using abilities such as tk/pk/levitation/astral projection/remote viewing/changing your molecular density to pass through solid objects/shapeshifting at will/telepathy, ect. It's quite easy to learn how to do something seemingly ordinary like learning a new trade and gaining a new skill but something entirely different trying to master the mystery and secrets of the universe.


If you want you can call me teacher but I mostly educated myself.

I beleive all of the above 'powers' possible and beleif is powerful in itself. Raise vibrations with hig vibrational frequencies, or by eating correctly to make sure your body is of a high vibrational state and functioning properly to begin with.

Simple things like deep breathing, yoga and meditation combined with Proper thought process or something alike positive affirmations and visualizations done with knowledge of the universe and the mechanisms behind all forces and a clean pute temple (healthy body). The imagination is the limit, as it may seem this might be a dream within a dream.

The Matrix i suspect may be the overlaying phones radiowaves, air pollution, negative emotions, haarp etc.. causing or preparing to cause out purpose to be so clouded and forgotten that we seek things we need not.

I think i am not ready for the teacher, I think i am okay with staying here to make your hell my heaven. I don't want to become something so awesome my memories of life become too distant to remember.


Emotions and opinions are we, ruined are eden you see, we create tomorrow and what will be, don't try to hide or flee.
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Interesting perspective...I have heard/pondered most of this but you enlightened me to some new ideas. I definately think something big is going on with h.a.a.r.p kinda like what you see going on in the movie, "They Live"

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This is worth really thinking about:
Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.
After enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.
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This is what i am saying, we are in the most amazing place in the universe I know of and so many people don't even realize it's worth. I eat mostly healthy foods that come from plants and the chemistry involved with all the different herbs, trees, fungus and whatev+er else among us really points out to me how much fun chemists must have had before it became such taboo and mystery. Just like before I went to college and had anatomy I thought the human body was so complex and confusing, now I know how it works and that the only things that matters is what i feed myself. While the body does everything from there weather or not I asked it to. The planet and body are just alike as i assume many other things are aswell, when out of balance it can be nourished into purr vibrance or it can simply die.
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You should understand that this human form is sustainable, and unlocking those abilities makes it less sustainable and more vulnerable. It took a long time to achieve this form and there's no way back without a loss in these two aspects.


how do you know such things? and what exactly do you mean by this?



I mean exactly what AC1175409 said:


you can get yourself into a lot of trouble by running before you can walk



How do I know such things. I know this exactly by walking this path you want to follow making a lot of mistakes, so I want to save you a lot of time and efforts. Be careful with your wishes, be sure about what you want to know and why you want to know it, control the way you think, don't motivate your actions by egotism - and you'll be ok. :)
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I was talking about the human form being sustainable to these things, and yes...one definately has to be careful what they wish for. I have learned this well and that's why I think it's important to have wisdom concerning such things

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It's true dude. And yes, it's a hell of a test.

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