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Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
[link to www.cnbc.com]

And Newark laid off 167 out of 800 or so.

[link to www.businessweek.com]

Jersey City is losing 80+.

I listened to the hearings a little last night and every single one of those Camden cops plans to take their family and flee the city.

Earlier this year AC laid off 17 but was able to hire them back.

But poor Camden, what are we going to do with Camden? Set up a perimeter?

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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
GREAT, PERFECT CITY FOR A SKELETON CREW PD.

NICE FOLKS, PEACEFUL WELL MAINTAINED NEIGHBORHOODS, GREAT SCHOOLS, LOW CRIME RATE, THRIVING BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

OH, WAIT, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS A WHITE CITY.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE 1950 STATS.
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But hey... y'all gotta keep those Bush tax cuts in place! Hell, who needs police, emergency services and schools anyway?
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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
Camden's one of the worst places in Jersey.

Uh oh.
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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
holy crap I've never seen a city with less whites in it


guess it's no surprise crime is sky high and the average house price is 50k. Sorry to sound racist, but as a whole certain races do increase crime and drag down the standard of living, and it's not because of racist old whitey either.
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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
GREAT, PERFECT CITY FOR A SKELETON CREW PD.

NICE FOLKS, PEACEFUL WELL MAINTAINED NEIGHBORHOODS, GREAT SCHOOLS, LOW CRIME RATE, THRIVING BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

OH, WAIT, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS A WHITE CITY.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE 1950 STATS.
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It wasn't the fact that it was a white city then because it actually wasn't nor has it ever been really. It was because there was an incredible amount of work in the city due to may factories being up and running. Campbells soup is really the only big operation left from those days. The factories all closed up, got bought out, merged with someone else or just died off and nothing replaced them. That combined with the Philadelphia mafia dumping tons of drugs in the city and you have what you have decades later. Learn your facts before you make it a race thing dum dum.
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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
GREAT, PERFECT CITY FOR A SKELETON CREW PD.

NICE FOLKS, PEACEFUL WELL MAINTAINED NEIGHBORHOODS, GREAT SCHOOLS, LOW CRIME RATE, THRIVING BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

OH, WAIT, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS A WHITE CITY.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE 1950 STATS.

It wasn't the fact that it was a white city then because it actually wasn't nor has it ever been really. It was because there was an incredible amount of work in the city due to may factories being up and running. Campbells soup is really the only big operation left from those days. The factories all closed up, got bought out, merged with someone else or just died off and nothing replaced them. That combined with the Philadelphia mafia dumping tons of drugs in the city and you have what you have decades later. Learn your facts before you make it a race thing dum dum.
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YOU ARE 100% INCORRECT. IF YOU PREFER TO REMAIN IN DENIAL, POWER TO YOU, BUT THE CONSTANT REWRITING OF HISTORY DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT RACE IS EVERYTHING. WHERE WHITES LIVE IN THE MAJORITY, YOU HAVE SAFE, WELL RUN PEACEFUL CITIES, WHERE BLACKS ARE IN THE MAJORITY THEY FAIL.

ALWAYS.

EVERY TIME.
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Ttown forgot to log in.
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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
I listened to the hearings a little last night and every single one of those Camden cops plans to take their family and flee the city.

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The only reason for anyone to stay in Camden is because they have a job there. If you don't, it's time to leave.
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caps poster is just right.. I don't judge people by skin color but there are definite trends on behavior patterns between races... you can deny it all you want and scream racism, but it's really just realism and looking at the facts.
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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
holy crap I've never seen a city with less whites in it


guess it's no surprise crime is sky high and the average house price is 50k. Sorry to sound racist, but as a whole certain races do increase crime and drag down the standard of living, and it's not because of racist old whitey either.
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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
[link to www.dvrbs.com]

GREAT PHOTO OF DOWNTOWN CAMDEN CIRCA 1950

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CIRCA 2008
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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
GREAT, PERFECT CITY FOR A SKELETON CREW PD.

NICE FOLKS, PEACEFUL WELL MAINTAINED NEIGHBORHOODS, GREAT SCHOOLS, LOW CRIME RATE, THRIVING BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

OH, WAIT, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS A WHITE CITY.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE 1950 STATS.

It wasn't the fact that it was a white city then because it actually wasn't nor has it ever been really. It was because there was an incredible amount of work in the city due to may factories being up and running. Campbells soup is really the only big operation left from those days. The factories all closed up, got bought out, merged with someone else or just died off and nothing replaced them. That combined with the Philadelphia mafia dumping tons of drugs in the city and you have what you have decades later. Learn your facts before you make it a race thing dum dum.


YOU ARE 100% INCORRECT. IF YOU PREFER TO REMAIN IN DENIAL, POWER TO YOU, BUT THE CONSTANT REWRITING OF HISTORY DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT RACE IS EVERYTHING. WHERE WHITES LIVE IN THE MAJORITY, YOU HAVE SAFE, WELL RUN PEACEFUL CITIES, WHERE BLACKS ARE IN THE MAJORITY THEY FAIL.

ALWAYS.

EVERY TIME.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904454

Well since I live about 15 minutes from Camden, worked in the city for a decade, a SJ native all my life and have actually helped organize community events there, this isn't denial, it's the history of the town, period. Go race bait somewhere else. Plus, technically since it has been proven beyond a doubt that the drugs truly started in Camden thanks to the efforts of the Philly mafia, 10 minutes away on the other side of the Ben Franklin and Walt Whitman bridges, it would appear that some wonderful white people had a big hand in helping make it the cesspool it is. Those are facts, from a white man. Any more intelligent input or do you still want to argue your useless point?

Bottom line is we are all human beings and we all basically want and need the same things. if I remove the water or oxygen from this planet, your color would have no effect on your ability to survive. Grow up kid.
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Sad for Camden and Newark too.

I spent two summers in Camden in HS doing community service and I can't imagine a place more beat down. Back then there were a few good citizens - seniors - I'm sure they are dead now.

I feel bad for Pennsauken, South Orange ... all the neighboring cities as well.
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Gonna have to think twice about going to Adventure Aquarium now. The area around is like an eerie ghost town as it is.

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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
Sad for Camden and Newark too.

I spent two summers in Camden in HS doing community service and I can't imagine a place more beat down. Back then there were a few good citizens - seniors - I'm sure they are dead now.

I feel bad for Pennsauken, South Orange ... all the neighboring cities as well.
 Quoting: SaltWaterTaffy


South Orange is losing cops too?

Basically all the worst areas of Jersey are losing cops?
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GREAT, PERFECT CITY FOR A SKELETON CREW PD.

NICE FOLKS, PEACEFUL WELL MAINTAINED NEIGHBORHOODS, GREAT SCHOOLS, LOW CRIME RATE, THRIVING BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

OH, WAIT, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS A WHITE CITY.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE 1950 STATS.

It wasn't the fact that it was a white city then because it actually wasn't nor has it ever been really. It was because there was an incredible amount of work in the city due to may factories being up and running. Campbells soup is really the only big operation left from those days. The factories all closed up, got bought out, merged with someone else or just died off and nothing replaced them. That combined with the Philadelphia mafia dumping tons of drugs in the city and you have what you have decades later. Learn your facts before you make it a race thing dum dum.


YOU ARE 100% INCORRECT. IF YOU PREFER TO REMAIN IN DENIAL, POWER TO YOU, BUT THE CONSTANT REWRITING OF HISTORY DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT RACE IS EVERYTHING. WHERE WHITES LIVE IN THE MAJORITY, YOU HAVE SAFE, WELL RUN PEACEFUL CITIES, WHERE BLACKS ARE IN THE MAJORITY THEY FAIL.

ALWAYS.

EVERY TIME.

Well since I live about 15 minutes from Camden, worked in the city for a decade, a SJ native all my life and have actually helped organize community events there, this isn't denial, it's the history of the town, period. Go race bait somewhere else. Plus, technically since it has been proven beyond a doubt that the drugs truly started in Camden thanks to the efforts of the Philly mafia, 10 minutes away on the other side of the Ben Franklin and Walt Whitman bridges, it would appear that some wonderful white people had a big hand in helping make it the cesspool it is. Those are facts, from a white man. Any more intelligent input or do you still want to argue your useless point?

Bottom line is we are all human beings and we all basically want and need the same things. if I remove the water or oxygen from this planet, your color would have no effect on your ability to survive. Grow up kid.
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You are totally right.

Camden is so stuck in cyclical poverty and crime. The people who live there don't have grocery stores or banks. OR cars. Holes open up in the roads and no one even puts up a cone. The people who go there to buy drugs are not black.

Our Lady of Lourdes is a wonderful hospital. St. Joseph's always did great work.

It's a shame we can't take care of this teeny city - it's got such a small footprint.

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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
Sad for Camden and Newark too.

I spent two summers in Camden in HS doing community service and I can't imagine a place more beat down. Back then there were a few good citizens - seniors - I'm sure they are dead now.

I feel bad for Pennsauken, South Orange ... all the neighboring cities as well.


South Orange is losing cops too?

Basically all the worst areas of Jersey are losing cops?
 Quoting: J-Rico


I went to school in South Orange - it is a very very very nice area bordering Newark.

That's why I feel sorry for South Orange.

It's going to get a lot more overflow of crime.
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Gonna have to think twice about going to Adventure Aquarium now. The area around is like an eerie ghost town as it is.

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We went to see Elmo Live up there last spring was no one around except the families going to the show and the cops.
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I'm from Newark (Ironbound) and the place has turned into a shithole once again.

Believe it or not, Newark was the place to go, after hours, back in the 40's and 50's. It was the 3rd largest seaport, founded in 1666.

Camden, like planet of the apes.

Sadly, black women got rooked and had to be strong after the scam the government pulled on them in the 60's with affirmative action and welfare. It made it so that it was better for their community not to be married to reap the benefits and it just broke up the family unit and community further.

Then you have the Jew scumlord landlords who keep them there. Sad that there were no strong black leaders to buy all of that prime real estate (Detroit, Camden, Newark, etc.) and turn it around buy taking advantage of all of the programs that were supposedly in place for the disadvantaged and minorities. Kick the Jews out and make it a Black Utopia.

I think Bill Cosby had much to say about his own, as have many others... but then, they can all drop the N word all they want to make their point. Howard Stern often went off on this hypocracy.
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Sad for Camden and Newark too.

I spent two summers in Camden in HS doing community service and I can't imagine a place more beat down. Back then there were a few good citizens - seniors - I'm sure they are dead now.

I feel bad for Pennsauken, South Orange ... all the neighboring cities as well.


South Orange is losing cops too?

Basically all the worst areas of Jersey are losing cops?


I went to school in South Orange - it is a very very very nice area bordering Newark.

That's why I feel sorry for South Orange.

It's going to get a lot more overflow of crime.
 Quoting: SaltWaterTaffy


It's bad enough that Elizabeth and Newark aren't TOO great... but you're right, it'll spill into neighboring areas and FAST.

I know ONE of the Oranges isn't so nice. If it's not South Orange, then it's West Orange?
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I have a huge soft spot for Camden because of the time I spent there living at St. Joseph's and working.

I want to rescue any good people left there.
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I know ONE of the Oranges isn't so nice. If it's not South Orange, then it's West Orange?
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East Orange and WEst Orange aren't as nice as South Orange.

But they are all so small and it's like: rich, ghetto, rich, ghetto as you ride down the road lol.
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Camden's one of the worst places in Jersey.

Uh oh.
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Camden is one of the worst places in the country, sadly.
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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
I know ONE of the Oranges isn't so nice. If it's not South Orange, then it's West Orange?


East Orange and WEst Orange aren't as nice as South Orange.

But they are all so small and it's like: rich, ghetto, rich, ghetto as you ride down the road lol.
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Then yeah, it's West Orange I was thinking about.
I'm in Central Jersey and driving up from where I live all the way up to Newark is like driving up into poverty.
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I'm here

[link to www.city-data.com]

It's cold and flat but no crime and decent amount of work. Almost all white. Black men are just more aggressive then white men and don't seem to have any problem with using violence at the drop of a hat, and it's more of a cultural thing, since not all blacks act like this, it's just the way the ghetto, rap culture is.
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Re: Camden, NJ laying off half its cops
GREAT, PERFECT CITY FOR A SKELETON CREW PD.

NICE FOLKS, PEACEFUL WELL MAINTAINED NEIGHBORHOODS, GREAT SCHOOLS, LOW CRIME RATE, THRIVING BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

OH, WAIT, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS A WHITE CITY.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE 1950 STATS.

It wasn't the fact that it was a white city then because it actually wasn't nor has it ever been really. It was because there was an incredible amount of work in the city due to may factories being up and running. Campbells soup is really the only big operation left from those days. The factories all closed up, got bought out, merged with someone else or just died off and nothing replaced them. That combined with the Philadelphia mafia dumping tons of drugs in the city and you have what you have decades later. Learn your facts before you make it a race thing dum dum.


YOU ARE 100% INCORRECT. IF YOU PREFER TO REMAIN IN DENIAL, POWER TO YOU, BUT THE CONSTANT REWRITING OF HISTORY DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT RACE IS EVERYTHING. WHERE WHITES LIVE IN THE MAJORITY, YOU HAVE SAFE, WELL RUN PEACEFUL CITIES, WHERE BLACKS ARE IN THE MAJORITY THEY FAIL.

ALWAYS.

EVERY TIME.
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Bullshit!!! Go visit Europe. You are clueless.
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But hey... y'all gotta keep those Bush tax cuts in place! Hell, who needs police, emergency services and schools anyway?
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yeah we gotta keep em. what do you want a great depression?
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I just took a look at the 2009 crime stats for my town which weren't there last week.. I've never seen any town have a crime rate of 13.9. That is absurdly low.
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I'm from Newark (Ironbound) and the place has turned into a shithole once again.

Believe it or not, Newark was the place to go, after hours, back in the 40's and 50's. It was the 3rd largest seaport, founded in 1666.

Camden, like planet of the apes.

Sadly, black women got rooked and had to be strong after the scam the government pulled on them in the 60's with affirmative action and welfare. It made it so that it was better for their community not to be married to reap the benefits and it just broke up the family unit and community further.

Then you have the Jew scumlord landlords who keep them there. Sad that there were no strong black leaders to buy all of that prime real estate (Detroit, Camden, Newark, etc.) and turn it around buy taking advantage of all of the programs that were supposedly in place for the disadvantaged and minorities. Kick the Jews out and make it a Black Utopia.

I think Bill Cosby had much to say about his own, as have many others... but then, they can all drop the N word all they want to make their point. Howard Stern often went off on this hypocracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1084931


I went to Seton Hall and hung out at Pauly's bar and a couple other places right there.

Newark has UMDNJ and a few other things going for it ... but not anymore I guess ...

Does anything think this will end up costing the state more in the long run?

Are we shooting ourselves int he foot?
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GREAT, PERFECT CITY FOR A SKELETON CREW PD.

NICE FOLKS, PEACEFUL WELL MAINTAINED NEIGHBORHOODS, GREAT SCHOOLS, LOW CRIME RATE, THRIVING BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

OH, WAIT, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS A WHITE CITY.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE 1950 STATS.

It wasn't the fact that it was a white city then because it actually wasn't nor has it ever been really. It was because there was an incredible amount of work in the city due to may factories being up and running. Campbells soup is really the only big operation left from those days. The factories all closed up, got bought out, merged with someone else or just died off and nothing replaced them. That combined with the Philadelphia mafia dumping tons of drugs in the city and you have what you have decades later. Learn your facts before you make it a race thing dum dum.


YOU ARE 100% INCORRECT. IF YOU PREFER TO REMAIN IN DENIAL, POWER TO YOU, BUT THE CONSTANT REWRITING OF HISTORY DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT RACE IS EVERYTHING. WHERE WHITES LIVE IN THE MAJORITY, YOU HAVE SAFE, WELL RUN PEACEFUL CITIES, WHERE BLACKS ARE IN THE MAJORITY THEY FAIL.

ALWAYS.

EVERY TIME.

Well since I live about 15 minutes from Camden, worked in the city for a decade, a SJ native all my life and have actually helped organize community events there, this isn't denial, it's the history of the town, period. Go race bait somewhere else. Plus, technically since it has been proven beyond a doubt that the drugs truly started in Camden thanks to the efforts of the Philly mafia, 10 minutes away on the other side of the Ben Franklin and Walt Whitman bridges, it would appear that some wonderful white people had a big hand in helping make it the cesspool it is. Those are facts, from a white man. Any more intelligent input or do you still want to argue your useless point?

Bottom line is we are all human beings and we all basically want and need the same things. if I remove the water or oxygen from this planet, your color would have no effect on your ability to survive. Grow up kid.
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AHHH, I SEE DRUGS ONLY EFFECT BLACK PEOPLE, IS THAT YOUR PREMISE? SO RACE IS IMPORTANT TO YOU WHEN IT BENEFITS YOUR ARGUMENT, BUT IT IS IMMATERIAL WHEN IT BENEFITS MINE.

"...white people had a big hand in helping make it the cesspool it is..."

OKAY, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS GOING TO GO.

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