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Why Born-Agains No longer Continue To Sin pt 3

 
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Re: Why Born-Agains No longer Continue To Sin pt 3
PRIDE is a sin...

ARROGANCE is a sin...

SWEARING is a sin....

BACKBITING is a sin....

TAKING THE LORDS NAME IN VAIN is a sin...

SLANDER is a sin...

SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS is a sin.

SO far lester you have TOTALLY DISPROVEN YOUR OWN PREMISE by CONTINUALLY commiting the above mentioned.

HYPOCRITE!!!

OH..and DONT make me QUOTE you..it will be TOO embarassing for you.
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My Complete Trust and Obedience in all things of my life was freely and hopefully given to The Father. I understood/Knew that when I made my surrender I was In HIS Presence and once my prayer was concluded that HE Had Accepted the offering I made of my life.

Would rather not discuss pre-ordination or Calvinistic dogma.

There is no dogma or doctrine to follow if you are HIS.
God Guides you through life and Makes your way.

I Know that had I asked HIM for ten-million times more than all the wealth of the world, HE Would Have Given it to me, but then would have shown me that HE Intended to Give me hundred fold more than all I could have imagined...

Can't understand that the Born-Again Loves God so much that nothing can motivate him/her to sin and betray their Relationship With The Father? Most are that way. Very few can Trust God Completely. Only sinners and PureHearts who think they sin worse than any really find their way to surrender. All others rationalize why they are pleasing to God.

Can't understand that it is only God that Delivers us from carnality or self-will? Then it is because you never surrendered and came to Know just how strongly Self sought to keep you alienated from HIM.


Believe what you want, but only those with Knowledge of HIS Deliverance from their carnal-condition can give witness of what they have Seen and Know...
 Quoting: Lester


No reply to the false Protestant teaching on "Born Again."

No reply to where is the "water?" It's evident the first
Christians believe Jesus means the Sacrament of Baptism.

People are so closed...especially this character, Les.
After Jesus explained to Nicodemus...what did He do? He
went out and baptized.

Read the next verses.
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Re: Why Born-Agains No longer Continue To Sin pt 3
Why Born-Again Christians do not continue to sin

[Below is the opening post from the 1st thread posted 1/20/05]


If you have Acknowledged Jesus as God become man, surrendered your life unto The Father, and received the Holy Spirit; you have been Born-Again. It is a process of Coming Unto The Father through Christ Jesus who is The Way unto The Father.

That said, there are many Christians out there who cannot understand that if they have been Born-Again and continue with the Holy Spirit guiding their lives, that they cannot simply sin as matter-of-factly as they did before they were Re-Born.

God cannot abide with sin or sinners. That is a basic fact. If you are Born-Again, you have the Holy Spirit living within you. HIS Witness is part of your being, your New Way of Life!

The Holy Spirit will not guide you into sin! When we were Carnal, we did not recognize what sin was in advance on all occasions. Self is a powerful adversary that cannot be overcome on our own. Self rationalizes sin to us so we fall into it.

Yet, Self is OverCome by our surrender to The Father! Self no longer has sway over our thinking and decisionmaking. The Holy Spirit replaces the Carnal Man with Spirit-Filled Man.

The Holy Spirit gives us an early warning mechanism internally that warns us of occasions that might lead us to sin. We also receive a clear understanding that the sin we are considering is a manifestation of Self which will alienate us from God.

God has OverCome Self in our lives, yet if we choose to sin, we are embracing Self once again. A Born-Again Christian has real Knowledge of God´s working within his/her life, and likely will not choose sin as their path.

The Holy Spirit does not leave us immediately upon our making a decision to sin and then doing so. Yet, if we do not promptly repent of the sin we have committed, HE will depart from us soon because HE cannot abide with sin.


There is great Biblical Evidence in Scripture that we who are Born-Again do not continue to sin.
 Quoting: Lester

Lester, what you have actually done is sell your soul to the devil in return for the promise of eternal life.
You've been had, BAD.
Fear is the strongest motivator.Religion is enabled by fear of death.
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Very interesting that none here who dissent, say that they do so By Guidance Of The Holy Spirit, or In Accordance With Ezekiel 36:26-27....

The Ezekiel Witness is most fascinating. In full version it is God's Promise To Make HIS Nation Born-Again... Verses 26-27 cite EXACTLY what I Know as The Born-Again Experience...

21. But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
22. Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
23. And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.


24. For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
25. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

28. And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.


29. I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.
30. And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.
31. Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
32. Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.


There is no "error" within me.

When I made my surrender, I noted to God (that because I was catholic) I KNEW Jesus was HIS Son, Saviour of the world, but didn't Know How Jesus fit into HIS Plan for things; so I told HIM, "I am making my surrender to you Father, YahWeh, Elohim".

There is no deception possible.
God does not permit satan to impersonate HIM.
God does not send "lying spirits" to HIS People; not at all, not never.

So much effort here intended to make Jesus out to be a liar.
Damn you anti-Christ filth!

Last Edited by Lester on 12/17/2010 05:35 PM
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Re: Why Born-Agains No longer Continue To Sin pt 3
Born-Agains do not sin.

Can't be Ezekiel 36 Born-Again and sin. God's Witness In Scripture says EXACTLY THAT:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


I do hate the self-will and carnality of the Hebrews 12 Bastards who deny The Witness Of God... Hate the sin, love the sinner. Tough love. Can't really encourage their error and still offer True witness to what God Has Given Me to See and Know...

Denial of God's Power to reform our carnal-nature is very akin to the unforgivable sin: Denial Of the Holy Spirit...


Can't witness and testify that verses 26 and 27 are TRUE and Operating in your life? Then you are not Born-Again; plainly and all your conjecture is anti-Christ and false.

Better never to have been born than lead on of MY Innocents astray, Christ Jesus Says...

Better never to have been born than to deny The Holy Spirit.

Gonna hear "Depart from ME you who work iniquity; I Know you NOT!" when you cry "Lord, Lord open unto us..." Matt 7:21-24


Enmity unto God.
That is what False-Witness is.

You Hebrews 12 Bastards have it in spades.
Like winning your game of conjecture means anything.... Yet, your pride keeps you from surrendering and being Brought Into HIS Accord and Given A New Heart Of Flesh.

It would be sad, if your being alienated from HIM weren't evidently and so plainly how HIS Will Manifests for you...

Maranatha!!!
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Re: Why Born-Agains No longer Continue To Sin pt 3
lester why did you use God's name in vain, if you say you never sin, but you just did?
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Evidently, sir or madam, you show no comprehension of your own remarks; much less those others offer for your consideration...

The earliest prior post I made on this thread was over 6mos ago. I did use God's Name in vain tonite nor at any earlier time.

Want to offer conjecture rather than witness?
It simply proves how much you don't understand and aren't willing to even consider.

Psalm 139 is witness of the Palmist's "perfect hatred" for those in enmity unto God. I am sure you would object also to the sentiment offered there.



Psalms 139
1. O LORD, thou hast searched me, and known me.
2. Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.
3. Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways.
4. For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether.
5. Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me.
6. Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it.
7. Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
8. If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
9. If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
10. Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
11. If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.
12. Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.
13. For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
14. I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
15. My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
17. How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!
18. If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee.


19. Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
20. For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
21. Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22. I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
23. Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:


You, AC, are unable to even keep The First Commandment. Remaining in carnal-self, you put self before God. You, essentially, are the "other god" which you put before YahWeh; otherwise you could and would surrender/submit your self Unto HIM without reservation.

Why don't you give up your self and control of your life Unto The Father and then tell me what I don't understand and how my witness fails... Do that, come to Know what Ezekiel 36:27 means and come back and give us your witness.

I pray for your successful effort.
Father, Please Bless his/her way.

Amen.
24. And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

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