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Transhuman Scientists download brain onto computer making humans immortal

 
Sandi_T

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Obviously, it's a terrible idea.

Computers get hacked all the time. This is nothing more or less than a computer.

It's bad enough to have diseases and insanity. But imagine some hacker, seeing it as a game, getting control over your cyber-body and slaughtering your family right in front of your face while you scream in your own mind and body, unable to stop it.

Or use your body to go assassinate someone, and then you're stuck in prison for a lifetime because you can't prove the hacking and you get 100 years in prison for your sentence.

The possibilities of horror are pretty much endless... that's why so many horror stories are made around this idea!
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12/05/2010 09:49 AM
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I've never met a brain that I liked.

So, I think they're getting a crappy deal.
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12/05/2010 10:13 AM
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Obviously, it's a terrible idea.

Computers get hacked all the time. This is nothing more or less than a computer.

It's bad enough to have diseases and insanity. But imagine some hacker, seeing it as a game, getting control over your cyber-body and slaughtering your family right in front of your face while you scream in your own mind and body, unable to stop it.

Or use your body to go assassinate someone, and then you're stuck in prison for a lifetime because you can't prove the hacking and you get 100 years in prison for your sentence.

The possibilities of horror are pretty much endless... that's why so many horror stories are made around this idea!
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Good Points Sandi.

The hu-man is basically a biological computer too, that breaks down into electrical frequencies. Peoples brains can be hacked into and manipulated. This tech has been around for decades. The Mind get hacked all the time by certain frequencies.

i look at life with the Duality perspective. Every action has an equal re-action. Everything has an opposite, in this reality/matrix.
My point is, it all depends on who uses the technology.

For example lets say the earth becomes extremely inhabitable to humans.
Famine, Weather Patters, Radiation, rampant disease, etc...

If you had a Body created to protect you from the ailments, a body that required 1/10th the food consumption and actually thrives off radiation/ immune to viruses and nasty bacteria. Your memories with other vital DATA is then implanted into that body, you would have a much better chance of survival. Not to mention you would feel better, live as long as you choose and experience more.

Then again, if the Evil Cabal decided to hack into your biological hard drive and program you to do something against your will, that falls into the negative spectrum right?
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I've never met a brain that I liked.

So, I think they're getting a crappy deal.
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LOL
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12/05/2010 10:21 AM
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Well, to be honest with you, I'm not afraid of death. I AM afraid of experiencing the horror of watching as someone hijacked my metal body and went on a killing spree.

So ultimately, "immortality" offers little that I want-- and a lot that I don't.

Like I said, being the "biological computer" that I am already comes with enough risks... at least they are familiar risks that I feel comfortable with.

The idea of immortality is actually one of my biggest FEARS, not hopes.

I suppose if one were terrified of death, this would seem like heaven to them. But if one is not afraid of death at all, it just seems like a lot of risk for little to no real reward...

I can already access the internet, I can already do most things I want to do.

I don't want to be a superhuman, I just want to live a simple, happy life. I want to feel my daughter's cheek, in a real way. I want to cuddle her and I want to enjoy life as it comes.

I don't want my body to go berserk one day and me not be able to feel her and crush her because my sensors malfunctioned.

I don't want to wake up one day with part of my body not working and a repair bill of millions of dollars because that particular servo-mechanism went out of style 200 years ago.

It's bad enough to have medical bills. Repair bills on an ailing mechanical body, or the worry of how to "upgrade" to the latest model...

All of that sounds kind of terrible to me, honestly.

I'd rather die. And I'm not saying that in a "OMG, THE HORROR" kind of way. It's like saying that I'd rather drive to my vacation than go through TSA's brutalities.

Just not worth it to me.

No interest at all in immortality.
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Well, to be honest with you, I'm not afraid of death. I AM afraid of experiencing the horror of watching as someone hijacked my metal body and went on a killing spree.

So ultimately, "immortality" offers little that I want-- and a lot that I don't.

Like I said, being the "biological computer" that I am already comes with enough risks... at least they are familiar risks that I feel comfortable with.

The idea of immortality is actually one of my biggest FEARS, not hopes.

I suppose if one were terrified of death, this would seem like heaven to them. But if one is not afraid of death at all, it just seems like a lot of risk for little to no real reward...

I can already access the internet, I can already do most things I want to do.

I don't want to be a superhuman, I just want to live a simple, happy life. I want to feel my daughter's cheek, in a real way. I want to cuddle her and I want to enjoy life as it comes.

I don't want my body to go berserk one day and me not be able to feel her and crush her because my sensors malfunctioned.

I don't want to wake up one day with part of my body not working and a repair bill of millions of dollars because that particular servo-mechanism went out of style 200 years ago.

It's bad enough to have medical bills. Repair bills on an ailing mechanical body, or the worry of how to "upgrade" to the latest model...

All of that sounds kind of terrible to me, honestly.

I'd rather die. And I'm not saying that in a "OMG, THE HORROR" kind of way. It's like saying that I'd rather drive to my vacation than go through TSA's brutalities.

Just not worth it to me.

No interest at all in immortality.
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To each their own. And you do make good points.

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Obviously, it's a terrible idea.

Computers get hacked all the time. This is nothing more or less than a computer.
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Our brains also get hacked all the time.
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Obviously, it's a terrible idea.

Computers get hacked all the time. This is nothing more or less than a computer.



Our brains also get hacked all the time.
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Yep thats what i was saying.

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12/05/2010 10:41 AM
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Ah, hate to break it to you but humans are eternal, which is much better than being immortal.
These guys are just tinkering with sematics, they have no clue how consciousness truly works.
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+1

Some educated fool with delusions of grandeur blowing hot air to get research funding.
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Ah, hate to break it to you but humans are eternal, which is much better than being immortal.
These guys are just tinkering with sematics, they have no clue how consciousness truly works.

+1

Some educated fool with delusions of grandeur blowing hot air to get research funding.
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Last i checked humans were mortal and the soul is eternal.

Maybe you should check your education before you blow hot air.
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12/05/2010 10:49 AM
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Haven't I heard about something like that existing since quite a while and used by the top elite called Digital Angel?
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Haven't I heard about something like that existing since quite a while and used by the top elite called Digital Angel?
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Digital Angel is the company that came out with the Chip that goes under the skin which holds all your info and can track you wherever you go.

Great name yeah>?
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12/05/2010 11:52 AM
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Re: Transhuman Scientists download brain onto computer making humans immortal
Obviously, it's a terrible idea.

Computers get hacked all the time. This is nothing more or less than a computer.



Our brains also get hacked all the time.
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The difference is that the hacking of our minds/ brains is a lot less efficient, more easily overcome, and far more complicated... not to mention that it's generally a tremendous degree less complete.

When computers get hacked, they often have to be either completely reprogrammed, or utterly destroyed.

So far, they've not gotten that far with our brains...
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12/05/2010 12:06 PM
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Do you guys think this is a good idea?

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Flattered you should ask :)
Not sure this will ever really touch the lives of us
folks in the working/underclass on the personal level...
2342 (OP)

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Re: Transhuman Scientists download brain onto computer making humans immortal
Obviously, it's a terrible idea.

Computers get hacked all the time. This is nothing more or less than a computer.



Our brains also get hacked all the time.


The difference is that the hacking of our minds/ brains is a lot less efficient, more easily overcome, and far more complicated... not to mention that it's generally a tremendous degree less complete.

When computers get hacked, they often have to be either completely reprogrammed, or utterly destroyed.

So far, they've not gotten that far with our brains...
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Don't be so sure Sandi T.

The tech we hear about is at least 40 years behind the cutting edge.
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Do you guys think this is a good idea?



Flattered you should ask :)
Not sure this will ever really touch the lives of us
folks in the working/underclass on the personal level...
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i think its a great idea if it gets into the right hands.

Or it could be a complete disaster for people because then they would be under even more totalitarian control.
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12/05/2010 08:10 PM
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It is the only way for long distance space travel.
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12/05/2010 08:11 PM
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Re: Transhuman Scientists download brain onto computer making humans immortal
Obviously, it's a terrible idea.

Computers get hacked all the time. This is nothing more or less than a computer.



Our brains also get hacked all the time.
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lol, really. just look what happened to the sheeple.
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It is the only way for long distance space travel.
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Maybe not the only way, but an excellent one!
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Re: Transhuman Scientists download brain onto computer making humans immortal
Obviously, it's a terrible idea.

Computers get hacked all the time. This is nothing more or less than a computer.



Our brains also get hacked all the time.
lol, really. just look what happened to the sheeple.
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Well as even computer memory degenerates through ageing, I cant see this being a feasible substitue as a "immortal" brain. Afterall we only recognise our percieved surroundings, so if there is nothing to tell us something due to a technological/historical change. Then to a computerised mind, it is simply implausible.
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copy of you memories and personality is not you so it does not make you immortal
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wont stay human damned
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Re: Transhuman Scientists download brain onto computer making humans immortal
Ah, hate to break it to you but humans are eternal, which is much better than being immortal.
These guys are just tinkering with sematics, they have no clue how consciousness truly works.
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Problem is humans belive in death. Would have to download the data of someone who has never heard of the idea of death or else the cyborg will get a fatal error.
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bsflag
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awesome..think of living into te future...count me in..
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Even if they could make an exact copy of YOU and download all of your memories and personality to it making it an exact copy of YOU it still wouldn't be YOU.
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Ah, hate to break it to you but humans are eternal, which is much better than being immortal.
These guys are just tinkering with sematics, they have no clue how consciousness truly works.

+1

Some educated fool with delusions of grandeur blowing hot air to get research funding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1184973


Last i checked humans were mortal and the soul is eternal.

Maybe you should check your education before you blow hot air.
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Describe how soul is eternal? No one ever live soul before life.
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Haven't I heard about something like that existing since quite a while and used by the top elite called Digital Angel?
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Digital Angel is the company that came out with the Chip that goes under the skin which holds all your info and can track you wherever you go.

Great name yeah>?
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METAL+MEAT=FAILED
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i would conclude that the mind can become immortal, however, humans cannnot be immortal. Once your mind becomes immortal in this fashion, you are no longer human.
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Good point, it would never be the same person. Plus sense of humor, emotions would not really exist, seems like really it would suck.

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