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Updates for string of Shark attacks in Egypt, experts arrive in Sharm to study shark behavior!!

 
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Its a shame Zahi Hawass doesn't enjoy a bit of snorkling
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chuckle

I was joking with some people today, who we could entice for a little snorkeling trip right now.

Hawass is a good candidate.

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THIS, is unbelievable....

[link to www.ynetnews.com]


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gasp

Are you friggen kidding me? That's at best a joke...and not even a funny one. The guy who said that needs to go to the hospital and get his foot operated out of his mouth.

Well, course, always easier to blame somebody else than take the responsibility. It's the fault of the Ministry and people in charge, I see how they treat the environment. Nothing's being enforced, illegal fishing, feeding, food being dumped, pollution and I'm getting more and more reports that indeed sheep was tossed overboard.

The swedish diving vessel is going to shed some light on what's on the ocean floor so I will find out. I have inside info of people taking part in the investigation.

That report/theory is BS!!!

Thanks for finding that Gaia.



lol....I loled when I saw that, and thought you might like it...

Is so easy to blame the Jews!


Yes, I guess it has to be taken with humor. The stupidity of people is incredible.
Well...if that happens in the USA, then it was Al Quaida sharks or what?



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In Iran time ago, they found spy zionists pigeons and spy zionists squirrels with Israeli equipment.

Palestinians whined that Israel trains snakes to bite Palestinians but not attack Israelis.

Now Egypt claims that Mossad is behind the shark attacks.

Allow me....lmao
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Its a shame Zahi Hawass doesn't enjoy a bit of snorkling


chuckle

I was joking with some people today, who we could entice for a little snorkeling trip right now.

Hawass is a good candidate.

tounge
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who is Hawass?
"Its over. I will always speak to you, and I don't mind if you don't say anything. Just because you went away, it doesn't mean you're not here anymore. Perhaps all I ever needed was this gift, the one you gave to me at the end.
I love you."

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THIS, is unbelievable....

[link to www.ynetnews.com]


wall


gasp

Are you friggen kidding me? That's at best a joke...and not even a funny one. The guy who said that needs to go to the hospital and get his foot operated out of his mouth.

Well, course, always easier to blame somebody else than take the responsibility. It's the fault of the Ministry and people in charge, I see how they treat the environment. Nothing's being enforced, illegal fishing, feeding, food being dumped, pollution and I'm getting more and more reports that indeed sheep was tossed overboard.

The swedish diving vessel is going to shed some light on what's on the ocean floor so I will find out. I have inside info of people taking part in the investigation.

That report/theory is BS!!!

Thanks for finding that Gaia.



lol....I loled when I saw that, and thought you might like it...

Is so easy to blame the Jews!


Yes, I guess it has to be taken with humor. The stupidity of people is incredible.
Well...if that happens in the USA, then it was Al Quaida sharks or what?



1doh1


In Iran time ago, they found spy zionists pigeons and spy zionists squirrels with Israeli equipment.

Palestinians whined that Israel trains snakes to bite Palestinians but not attack Israelis.

Now Egypt claims that Mossad is behind the shark attacks.

Allow me....lmao
 Quoting: ~GAIA~


Are you serious? I think that just made me pee a little....

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Hey Babsi, LTNS

The behaviors are those of an apex predator reacting to stimuli in it's general location. While we were not originally on the menu, we are now with the massive influx of people to the beaches. Mere population increasing and those numbers falling also into the people in the water, you can expect to become part of the natural food chain.
However, there has been a serious rise in all types of apex predators attacking man in the past 2 years alone. The rate of those attacks is increasing rapidly and that is a concern. Can't say what or why it is being triggered, but this too isn't limited to predators. Many birds are showing these similar issues when confronted by man. Many other animals as well, dogs, monkeys, many that would normally not be as hostile,are,.... now.
Sign of the times?....
Animals are more in touch with nature/this planet/and the changing forces we have become null of. If we could step back and feel those changes, I wonder how far off we would appear to be when viewed from an outside source. Man, though an animal, has all but removed our own natural instincts. That is truly a travesty and will cause many's downfall,..... soon.

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Hey Babsi, LTNS

The behaviors are those of an apex predator reacting to stimuli in it's general location. While we were not originally on the menu, we are now with the massive influx of people to the beaches. Mere population increasing and those numbers falling also into the people in the water, you can expect to become part of the natural food chain.
However, there has been a serious rise in all types of apex predators attacking man in the past 2 years alone. The rate of those attacks is increasing rapidly and that is a concern. Can't say what or why it is not being triggered, but this too isn't limited to predators. Many birds are showing these similar issues when confronted by man. Many other animals as well, dogs, monkeys, many that would normally not be as hostile,are,.... now.
Sign of the times?....
Animals are more in touch with nature/this planet/and the changing forces we have become null of. If we could step back and feel those changes, I wonder how far off we would appear to be when viewed from an outside source. Man, though an animal, has all but removed our own natural instincts. That is truly a travesty and will cause many's downfall,..... soon.
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Hey, how are you, yes, long time :)

Thanks for your input. Actually I agree with what you say. Tourism has exploded, hotels are built and there's not much of a coastline left that isn't overrun with tourists and swimmers in the water.

However, the curious thing is the Longimanus shark showing up close to the beach, it is not normal for it to be there.

I am curious to find out what the experts come up with. I think something is out of balance, maybe the sharks are trying to take their territory back. Also that maybe they come closer to the shore in search of food as it's being speculated overfishing may also be a cause.

Again..."The Swarm" becoming Reality me thinks.
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Enoch 1
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Which text of 1?
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They found the sharks sent by Mossad....they were arrested and are currently being "waterboarded" to get more info and a confession.

[link to www.freakingnews.com]

[link to www.freakingnews.com]

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All kidding aside - here is the first eyewitness report. Not pretty...

[link to uk.news.yahoo.com]

"I turned around and looked behind me and I saw a woman who seemed to be in distress.

"I obviously instantly knew why she was in distress because we knew of the sharks in the area.

"I was desperately trying to scrabble across the coral. I watched this woman screaming 'Help, help, help'. She was thrashing around.

"The shark just kept coming up and taking bites out of her and then coming back for more and taking another bite. The water had just turned red. It was just absolutely horrific."
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It's all a plot by Isreal

[link to www.jpost.com]
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Great article with video:

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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It's all a plot by Isreal

[link to www.jpost.com]
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Yup, we already had our laughs about that one...ridiculous.
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[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

International shark experts are arriving in Egypt to help investigate the attacks off the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh that have baffled local officials.

Scientists agree that such attacks are extremely rare - and that sharks are not the man-eaters depicted in Hollywood blockbusters such as Jaws.

But they will try to determine why the sharks were lured into shallow waters, and what prompted them to carry out a series of attacks that left one person dead and several more injured.

But Ian Fergusson, a shark biologist and patron of the Shark Trust, a UK conservation organisation, said the presence of the short-fin mako shark was intriguing.

Oceanic white tips frequent the region but it was unusual for swimmers to encounter them in shallow waters, he said, and it was very rare for shortfin makos to be found in the Red Sea - and exceptionally rare to find them close to shore.

So what could have prompted the latest attacks?

There has been speculation that animal carcasses were recently dumped into the Red Sea, not far off the shore. Some reports have suggested the remains could have been thrown overboard by a ship carrying animal cargo.

"If you start dumping carcasses, you couldn't ask for a better way of baiting for sharks," said Mr Fergusson.

David Jacoby, who specialises in shark behavioural ecology at The Marine Biological Association of the UK, agreed that if this is the case, it was likely to be a significant factor in the sharks' behaviour.

Based on evidence, experts know that in other shark species, larger females move into warmer, shallow waters to either aid gestation - which can be between 9-12 months in white tips depending on the temperature - or to pup, although from what little evidence there is, it seems that oceanic white tips probably pup in the early summer.
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There are over four million visitors a year to the Red Sea and there hasn't been a single incident within the last five years”

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"Both species [white tips and makos] rarely encounter people as they spend large amounts of their time in blue water - open ocean," said Mr Jacoby.


50% - the article is interesting, I recommend to read it.
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Gota go sometime. Might as well go with a bang and some balls. Next story please.
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Gota go sometime. Might as well go with a bang and some balls. Next story please.
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That's not the story...I guess you haven't read the thread. The story is - this hasn't happened ever, this type of shark shouldn't be there close to the shore, 4 attacks in 5 days, 1 fatal, 1 in critical condition, all separate incidents. Now everything's shut down in Sharm. This affects business for many people. So no, this not just about somebody dying from a shark attack and going out with a bang. There's something unusual going on.
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this story is bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag
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this story is bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag
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What's BS about it?? Because I have the facts?
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Witnesses describe shark attack - sorry for not embedding the video, somehow this always gets me banned.

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

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there is not enough to eat in the oceans
that is why the sharks are hunting anything and the dolphins and whales are beaching (along with the sonar driving them nuts)

fishes and krill plankton all the smaller stuff is going away, dying out, over fished, polluted, temperatures changes from the volcanoe waking up down there,etc.
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there is not enough to eat in the oceans
that is why the sharks are hunting anything and the dolphins and whales are beaching (along with the sonar driving them nuts)

fishes and krill plankton all the smaller stuff is going away, dying out, over fished, polluted, temperatures changes from the volcanoe waking up down there,etc.
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Got a point - Fergusson, a expert who's currently helping investigate said it may have to do with carcasses that were dumped, also other changes in the eco system.

I heard from several divers that the attacks were cause by the same shark, a large female Longimanus. Fergusson mentioned something about females going into warmer shallower water during gestation or to pup. That may explain why this female is so aggressive. Waiting to hear from them tomorrow what they saw during investigative dives.
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think of it this way, those people were probably cannibals
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Witnesses describe shark attack - sorry for not embedding the video, somehow this always gets me banned.

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Then I will,....I'm always banned anyway,.... chuckle



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Witnesses describe shark attack - sorry for not embedding the video, somehow this always gets me banned.

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]

Then I will,....I'm always banned anyway,.... chuckle



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LOL - thanks for that.

The bans that happen to me are usually because of a faulty link from youtube...must be a problem with the internet here.
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LOL - thanks for that.

The bans that happen to me are usually because of a faulty link from youtube...must be a problem with the internet here.
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No Babsi,
It is a fault of the coders here @ GLP and the auto ban crap.
Theories: Misconceptions awaiting confirmation of incorrectness.
Everything is subject to continually changing variables, leaving nothing to remain as a constant.]D)one!!!!
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LOL - thanks for that.

The bans that happen to me are usually because of a faulty link from youtube...must be a problem with the internet here.

No Babsi,
It is a fault of the coders here @ GLP and the auto ban crap.
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Well, to be honest I don't understand too much of the technical stuff...I have dsl, go online...that's it, lol. Thanks for posting the vids for me...I'm not doing it because I'm tired of getting banned every time. ;)
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Well, to be honest I don't understand too much of the technical stuff...I have dsl, go online...that's it, lol. Thanks for posting the vids for me...I'm not doing it because I'm tired of getting banned every time. ;)
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My pleasure,....

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Nobody has a theory?
I guess not too many are familiar with the Red Sea or marine life behavior. Some of you GLP'ers are tho....as I said, I have a theory, simply what I've been observing. But I'm gathering some more info first.
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I have never been to Sharm el Sheikh, but I went AWOL from the IDF a couple of times in 1980, and 1981 and camped out in Nueiba, halfway up the coast to Eilat.

Nueiba is a paradise for snorklers and that's all I did, explored the coral canyons for hours. The scuba divers would explore down the outer wall of the reef where all the sharks were.

Divers who were seriously into sharks went to Sharm.

Why should this be so unusual? Sharm el Sheikh is one of the foremost places in the world to swim with sharks. Sometimes sharks kill. Look what happened to Steve Irwin, and he was an expert. The inner reef is scary enough to me, with its stonefish, fire coral, spiny sea urchins, and moray eels.
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Nobody has a theory?
I guess not too many are familiar with the Red Sea or marine life behavior. Some of you GLP'ers are tho....as I said, I have a theory, simply what I've been observing. But I'm gathering some more info first.

I have never been to Sharm el Sheikh, but I went AWOL from the IDF a couple of times in 1980, and 1981 and camped out in Nueiba, halfway up the coast to Eilat.

Nueiba is a paradise for snorklers and that's all I did, explored the coral canyons for hours. The scuba divers would explore down the outer wall of the reef where all the sharks were.

Divers who were seriously into sharks went to Sharm.

Why should this be so unusual? Sharm el Sheikh is one of the foremost places in the world to swim with sharks. Sometimes sharks kill. Look what happened to Steve Irwin, and he was an expert. The inner reef is scary enough to me, with its stonefish, fire coral, spiny sea urchins, and moray eels.
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Steve was an expert on land animals. He turned down the sea expeditions more than once stating he didn't feel comfortable and was out of his element. Money is what finally got him to do the sea show, and a STINGRAY (docile over all) spiked him in the heart as it swam underneath.
He was smart enough to know his own limits, but greedy enough to overlook that.

Travesty of a great man that fell over greed knowing better. I miss his shows, his personality, his love for animals, and his ability to educate others in the greatness of nature even in the dangerous areas.
I will never forget that man, nor the events that took him.
I've never looked at the $ the same way since.
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Nobody has a theory?
I guess not too many are familiar with the Red Sea or marine life behavior. Some of you GLP'ers are tho....as I said, I have a theory, simply what I've been observing. But I'm gathering some more info first.

I have never been to Sharm el Sheikh, but I went AWOL from the IDF a couple of times in 1980, and 1981 and camped out in Nueiba, halfway up the coast to Eilat.

Nueiba is a paradise for snorklers and that's all I did, explored the coral canyons for hours. The scuba divers would explore down the outer wall of the reef where all the sharks were.

Divers who were seriously into sharks went to Sharm.

Why should this be so unusual? Sharm el Sheikh is one of the foremost places in the world to swim with sharks. Sometimes sharks kill. Look what happened to Steve Irwin, and he was an expert. The inner reef is scary enough to me, with its stonefish, fire coral, spiny sea urchins, and moray eels.
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Nuweiba is beautiful, and yes you are correct, people come to Egypt Red Sea to see sharks. However in Sharm, there aren't many. I didn't hear of many sharks in Nuweiba/Dahab, I myself have not seen one there. In Sharm, you find them only if you are lucky at the outer reefs of Straits of Tiran.

This shark (Longimanus) that was attacking people is normally in the open ocean, or near reefs that are out in the open ocean. Also the mako shark that was caught at the beach is highly unusual and extremely rare. There is a strange event happening that caused these type of sharks to come close to shore. That is what is unusual.

People who want to see sharks dive in the south of the Red Sea, Marsa Alam, Elphinstone, Brother Islands and St. Johns. All far from shore and many hours to cruise. And those place are not permitted for snorkeling or swimming by the way.

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