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Why Won't Any Of The Chemtrail Pilots Blow The Whistle?

 
MrZephyros
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12/09/2010 07:34 PM
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Because they are contrails putin

Horseshit.

These things don't dissipate like contrails, which I see in the sky too. They linger for hours, and get wider as time goes on. Contrails get wider for a bit, then dissipate, usually in minutes.

This is spraying. I live in So. Cal and some days it's really heavy, then we may go a week or two with nothing.



And why, exactly, do the contrails dissipate. Can you explain that?
 Quoting: MrZephyros 1185792



Will one of you chemtrail enthusiasts going to answer this for us? There must be a reason based in physics or thermodynamics, chemistry, some well-known scientific discipline.

Why do contrails dissipate?
unrealisrealnow
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I once saw a plane cross the entire horizon in a few seconds. Normally it takes a minute or two and then it's out of sight. This one, seemed more like an advanced black ops craft spraying a chemtrail. It was amazing.

They could be remote controlled too. I've also heard that the planes are piloted but the opening and closing of the chems are done elsewhere and all the pilots follow is a flight path and they do not know when or if they are spraying. That second part has got to be BS though. Because all they'd have to do is look behind them to see what they're doing. So if piloted it is possible that the spew jets as it were, are remotely controlled.

50-100 though. It's a lot higher than that if they are piloted. I've personally and with a friend as well seen more than 6 in the sky here at one time laying trails down.


The ones overhead look like they are moving impossibly slow and they are silent. Nothing like how the Air base jets move. Those suckers you can hear coming and they haul ass.



I guess part of that could be the altitude and they're out of audible range. I remember the day I saw that perfedctly.

It was winter, a thin coating of snow in Memphis, cold very quiet and clear blue skies. I was waiting at the house of my massage therapist at the time and this plane laid down a thick trail in broad daylight from one horizon to the other, my entire field of vision in literally 10 seconds or less. I've never seen that since. I think it was 2007. No one else was in sight in the neighborhood and most people don't pay attention to the skies so I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that saw it that day, but who knows.

But you're right, most seem to move quite slowly. I've been watching them since 2005. I should probably post my photos somewhere but have never done so. What airbase are you speaking of Azul?


Yes they do seem to be flying very high.
When we lived in Phoenix, it was Luke. Now we live way out in the sticks, so no air base nearby.
 Quoting: ~Azul~


I see. Ave flight altitude 32-37 thousand feet. Average chemtrail altitude 12-15 thousand feet, but still high enough to not be heard. There is something about those planes though, they just glide differently than commercial aircraft. I mean, I see chemtrails planes going off in all kinds of weird directions and you know they're not commercial craft. They fly in a nice straight line across the horizon and leave almost no trail or occasionally a short lived con-trail. So obvious... yes it is. fear ya know. Oh well, have to sign off for a bit. Peace.
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Documented 'chemtrailing' (aerosolized powder contrails)

1950 In an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Francisco. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia-like symptoms.

1951 Department of Defense begins open air tests using disease-producing bacteria and viruses. Tests last through 1969 and there is concern that people in the surrounding areas have been exposed.

1953 U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium sulfide gas over Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in Maryland, and Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.

1955 The CIA, in an experiment to test its ability to infect human populations with biological agents, releases a bacteria withdrawn from the Army's biological warfare arsenal over Tampa Bay, Fl.

1977 Senate hearings on Health and Scientific Research confirm that 239 populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Some of the areas included San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key West, Panama City, Minneapolis, and St. Louis.

""interesting tidbit**1987 Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty banning research and development of biological agents, it continues to operate research facilities at 127 facilities and universities around the nation.

1955 and 1963 planes flew from north-east England to the tip of Cornwall along the south and west coasts, dropping huge amounts of zinc cadmium sulphide on the population. The chemical drifted miles inland, its fluorescence allowing the spread to be monitored. In another trial using zinc cadmium sulphide, a generator was towed along a road near Frome in Somerset where it spewed the chemical for an hour.

While the Government has insisted the chemical is safe, cadmium is recognised as a cause of lung cancer and during the Second World War was considered by the Allies as a chemical weapon.

In another chapter, 'Large Area Coverage Trials', the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.

The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.

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12/09/2010 07:37 PM
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Because they are contrails putin

Horseshit.

These things don't dissipate like contrails, which I see in the sky too. They linger for hours, and get wider as time goes on. Contrails get wider for a bit, then dissipate, usually in minutes.

This is spraying. I live in So. Cal and some days it's really heavy, then we may go a week or two with nothing.



And why, exactly, do the contrails dissipate. Can you explain that?



Will one of you chemtrail enthusiasts going to answer this for us? There must be a reason based in physics or thermodynamics, chemistry, some well-known scientific discipline.

Why do contrails dissipate?
 Quoting: MrZephyros 11632


Not necessarily an enthusiast, and even giving you the time of day I'm breaking one of my rules of thumb, because I"m not here to convince anyone of anything. All the people in my diverse world know these things for what they are and what they are not.

To answer you question I will first ask you a question.

Why does your breath disipate in the winter?
Anonymous Coward
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12/09/2010 08:17 PM
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Because chemtrails are total BS. It's sad people don't understand chemistry and physics well enough to understand that burning fuel produces water, that water freezes producing a trail of ice crystals. If you wanted to spread something it would be more effective to do it at the airport while people are in line.


NO, you learn some chemistry yourself. These did not exist until just prior to 2000. Planes have not changed that much. these are put out by spraying planes, which you can prove to yourself with a simple pair of binoculars.


Planes NEVER left this mess before then, and the contrails NEVEr persist for sometimes hours spreading out in to fake clouds. Get a life. We who KNOW are not dumb.


you aren't dumb but you are delusional

time to take your meds
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068187

yes we know the science ,their is both, contrail,chemtrails, maybe its in the fuel but its there how old are you,
can you remeber the sky 30yearrrs back ,eh, it was blue clouds were sparse spread out ,beutiful may days long blue summers with swallows and song ,larks evry where,lapwings by the thousands, fuckin insects evry where ,bees on evry bush,fuckinfields with more than a few daisy,bluebells down the ffin woods flowers down the hedgerows teaming with life yes just 330 years ago, who owns the fuckin jet fuel companys because id bet way back it was lots of different haulers who shifted the fuel, you dont believe . i built model planes from age fuckin 7 meshersmits,fuckin stukas ,meteors my dad wus raf. we know contrails they can hang a while yes ,but they dont shut the fuckin sky from sep to fuckin may with the odd couple of days
The Guy

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12/09/2010 08:20 PM

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These are from today.
Pic 01
Pic 02

They are STILL there. Same two planes have been going back and forth for hours now. I live in BFE Arizon. No airports or bases nearby. What reason would they have for flying over and over the same area? I could see if we lived in a high flight traffic area...and if you looked at the sky, you would think there was a plane highway overhead.
 Quoting: ~Azul~


What makes you think it's the same two planes?
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12/09/2010 08:21 PM
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~Azul~

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12/09/2010 08:38 PM
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These are from today.
Pic 01
Pic 02

They are STILL there. Same two planes have been going back and forth for hours now. I live in BFE Arizon. No airports or bases nearby. What reason would they have for flying over and over the same area? I could see if we lived in a high flight traffic area...and if you looked at the sky, you would think there was a plane highway overhead.


What makes you think it's the same two planes?
 Quoting: The Guy


We sat and watched them go way out East and then turn. One right behind the other. Pass over, head way out west and turn again. It was odd.

Truthfully before today I never gave these long 'clouds' much thought. If someone had not brought it up in another thread, I would not have even gone outside to see what they were talking about.
:OMFGZombie:

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The Guy

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12/09/2010 08:55 PM

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We sat and watched them go way out East and then turn. One right behind the other. Pass over, head way out west and turn again. It was odd.

Truthfully before today I never gave these long 'clouds' much thought. If someone had not brought it up in another thread, I would not have even gone outside to see what they were talking about.
 Quoting: ~Azul~


Please, please, please get it on video! I've read several accounts of planes turning around and passing over the same area again, but I've never seen it and no one have ever provided video of it. Strangely, all witnesses were in the southwest. hmmm
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
~Azul~

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We sat and watched them go way out East and then turn. One right behind the other. Pass over, head way out west and turn again. It was odd.

Truthfully before today I never gave these long 'clouds' much thought. If someone had not brought it up in another thread, I would not have even gone outside to see what they were talking about.


Please, please, please get it on video! I've read several accounts of planes turning around and passing over the same area again, but I've never seen it and no one have ever provided video of it. Strangely, all witnesses were in the southwest. hmmm
 Quoting: The Guy


I thought about turning the video on. Dh and I were saying to each other that we should start keeping track of when they fly over. Next time for sure.
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I was wondering - why can't those folks with a good telescope look at these planes, and see if anything is different about their emissions, as opposed to a regular plane?
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12/10/2010 12:31 AM
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I was wondering - why can't those folks with a good telescope look at these planes, and see if anything is different about their emissions, as opposed to a regular plane?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1140687


For the same reason that the chemtards do not do anything that does not involve them having their chemmie internet circle jerk.

Ever seen a chemtard that can actually identify airplanes? Or that knows the slightest thing about aviation? Or that understands meteorology and weather?

They will waste all that time on chem websites and talk about chemtrails, but will absolutely refuse to try to learn anything about aviation any weather.

They seem to think that planes should teleport to other airports apparently, because they still cant wrap their head around the idea that airplanes actually have to travel across the country to get someplace. Or that its cold enough for ice crystals to last hours sometimes (hmmm maybe they think cirrus clouds are just a plot too).
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12/10/2010 02:50 AM
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Because they are contrails putin
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Horseshit.
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These things don't dissipate like contrails, which I see in the sky too. They linger for hours, and get wider as time goes on. Contrails get wider for a bit, then dissipate, usually in minutes.

This is spraying. I live in So. Cal and some days it's really heavy, then we may go a week or two with nothing.
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And why, exactly, do the contrails dissipate. Can you explain that?

Will one of you chemtrail enthusiasts going to answer this for us? There must be a reason based in physics or thermodynamics, chemistry, some well-known scientific discipline.

Why do contrails dissipate?
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Not necessarily an enthusiast, and even giving you the time of day I'm breaking one of my rules of thumb, because I"m not here to convince anyone of anything. All the people in my diverse world know these things for what they are and what they are not.

To answer you question I will first ask you a question.

Why does your breath disipate in the winter?
 Quoting: unrealisrealnow 1188909


LOLZ; You must think I'm stupid!
That's the same question.
Nah, you go ahead and explain it. Go on.
You don't really know, do you.
unrealisrealnow
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Because they are contrails putin
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Horseshit.
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These things don't dissipate like contrails, which I see in the sky too. They linger for hours, and get wider as time goes on. Contrails get wider for a bit, then dissipate, usually in minutes.

This is spraying. I live in So. Cal and some days it's really heavy, then we may go a week or two with nothing.
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And why, exactly, do the contrails dissipate. Can you explain that?

Will one of you chemtrail enthusiasts going to answer this for us? There must be a reason based in physics or thermodynamics, chemistry, some well-known scientific discipline.

Why do contrails dissipate?
--------

Not necessarily an enthusiast, and even giving you the time of day I'm breaking one of my rules of thumb, because I"m not here to convince anyone of anything. All the people in my diverse world know these things for what they are and what they are not.

To answer you question I will first ask you a question.

Why does your breath disipate in the winter?


LOLZ; You must think I'm stupid!
That's the same question.
Nah, you go ahead and explain it. Go on.
You don't really know, do you.
 Quoting: MrZephyros 1188138


For you see, they are not chemtrails if they dissolve quickly. However, that also doesn't mean that one cannot spray a poison type of aerosol that disperses as efficiently as exhaust too.

Why do we still see chemtrails in the summer months when it is hot and muggy or hot and dry as opposed to the cool dry winter months which more closely resemble air at various higher altitudes though not as cold?

Why don't clouds dissipate? Because they form around a piece of particulate, or in fact pollution in the air. The very same reason why what you claim are contrails cannot be. They do not dissipate when they're chemtrails because they contain matter and not simply water vapor spent fuel emissions and the like. These are facts.
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We sat and watched them go way out East and then turn. One right behind the other. Pass over, head way out west and turn again. It was odd.

Truthfully before today I never gave these long 'clouds' much thought. If someone had not brought it up in another thread, I would not have even gone outside to see what they were talking about.


Please, please, please get it on video! I've read several accounts of planes turning around and passing over the same area again, but I've never seen it and no one have ever provided video of it. Strangely, all witnesses were in the southwest. :hmmm:


I thought about turning the video on. Dh and I were saying to each other that we should start keeping track of when they fly over. Next time for sure.
 Quoting: ~Azul~



Do it. But don't be surprised if it almost seems like they're doing it more now that you're keeping track. That's I"m gonna say about that... for now.
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Why don't clouds dissipate? Because they form around a piece of particulate, or in fact pollution in the air. The very same reason why what you claim are contrails cannot be. They do not dissipate when they're chemtrails because they contain matter and not simply water vapor spent fuel emissions and the like. These are facts.
 Quoting: unrealisrealnow 1190767


You think there are no particualtes in jet exhaust?
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
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Because they are paid not to. Engage thy brain, dear one.
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Azul is right
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The chemtrail conspiracy theory holds that some trails left by aircraft are actually chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for a purpose undisclosed to the general public in clandestine programs directed by government officials. As a result, official agencies have received thousands of complaints from people who have demanded an explanation. The existence of chemtrails has been repeatedly denied by government agencies and scientists around the world, who say the trails are normal contrails.
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