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Thomas Jefferson was a VERY special person...

 
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Thomas Jefferson was a VERY special person...

I had read before about his rather unique life and his amazing combination of talents. The summary below of his career and some of his quotes is worth noting.

Thomas Jefferson was a very remarkable man who started learning very early in life and never stopped.

At 5, began studying under his cousin's tutor.

At 9, studied Latin, Greek and French.

At 14, studied classical literature and additional languages.

At 16, entered the College of William and Mary.

At 19, studied Law for 5 years starting under George Wythe.

At 23, started his own law practice.

At 25, was elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses.

At 31, wrote the widely circulated "Summary View of the Rights of British America" and retired from his law practice.

At 32, was a Delegate to the Second Continental Congress.

At 33, wrote the Declaration of Independence.

At 33, took three years to revise Virginia's legal code and wrote a Public Education bill and a statute for Religious Freedom.

At 36, was elected the second Governor of Virginia succeeding Patrick Henry.

At 40, served in Congress for two years.

At 41, was the American minister to France and negotiated commercial treaties with European nations along with Ben
Franklin and John Adams.

At 46, served as the first Secretary of State under George Washington.

At 53, served as Vice President and was elected president of the American Philosophical Society.

At 55, drafted the Kentucky Resolutions and became the active head of Republican Party.

At 57, was elected the third president of the United States.

At 60, obtained the Louisiana Purchase doubling the nation' size.

At 61, was elected to a second term as President.

At 65, retired to Monticello.

At 80, helped President Monroe shape the Monroe Doctrine.

At 81, almost single-handedly created the University of Virginia and served as its first president.

At 83, died on the 50th anniversary of the Signing of the Declaration of Independence along with John Adams

Thomas Jefferson knew because he himself studied the previous failed attempts at government. He understood actual history, the nature of God, his laws and the nature of man. That happens to be way more than what most understand today. Jefferson really knew his stuff. A voice from the past to lead us in the future:

John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the white House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement: "This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."

When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.- Thomas Jefferson

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world. - Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. - Thomas Jefferson
My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. - Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. - Thomas Jefferson

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.- Thomas Jefferson

To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. - Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.

I wish we could get this out to everyone!!!


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Rewrote the gospels minus the miracles and supernatural.
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Rewrote the gospels minus the miracles and supernatural.
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Whether anybody accepts this fact or not...it's true.
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did you know that jefferson and adams were both assassinated by the british!

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...and played the violin too.

My favorite president.




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"Despite his famous rhetoric of liberty, equality, freedom, and self-rule as the principles upon which our nation was founded, Thomas Jefferson was a slave holder owning at least 200 slaves, and thus, a hypocrite until his death in 1826."

"Jefferson, Thomas." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2008. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. 19 Feb. 2008.
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TJ was a slave owner, but you must consider that this was normal for the times and culture. He also treated his slaves as family, though sometimes too much as family :) Upon his death all his slaves were granted freedom.

You must consider the culture and time frame.

He was a great man and if we fail to measure up to the wisdom of the founding fathers we will surely no longer be a nation of free men.

Say what you will, Thomas jefferson was a great and wise man.

You don't like the founding fathers and the constitution?

Get the fuck out of MY country while you can.

I'm going to reboot it with a little help from whats coming.

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TJ was a slave owner, but you must consider that this was normal for the times and culture. He also treated his slaves as family, though sometimes too much as family :) Upon his death all his slaves were granted freedom.

You must consider the culture and time frame.

He was a great man and if we fail to measure up to the wisdom of the founding fathers we will surely no longer be a nation of free men.

Say what you will, Thomas jefferson was a great and wise man.

You don't like the founding fathers and the constitution?

Get the fuck out of MY country.

I'm going to reboot it.
 Quoting: Frater

It certainly needs a reboot, and some serious antivirus as well.
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TJ was a slave owner, but you must consider that this was normal for the times and culture. He also treated his slaves as family, though sometimes too much as family :) Upon his death all his slaves were granted freedom.

You must consider the culture and time frame.

He was a great man and if we fail to measure up to the wisdom of the founding fathers we will surely no longer be a nation of free men.

Say what you will, Thomas jefferson was a great and wise man.

You don't like the founding fathers and the constitution?

Get the fuck out of MY country.

I'm going to reboot it.

It certainly needs a reboot, and some serious antivirus as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185543


You have little to say, I know your country well. You barely even know your own identity.

What is that now?

Your great founding fathers and principles?

So easy to criticize, so lead us out of it will ya?

A?
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"Despite his famous rhetoric of liberty, equality, freedom, and self-rule as the principles upon which our nation was founded, Thomas Jefferson was a slave holder owning at least 200 slaves, and thus, a hypocrite until his death in 1826."

"Jefferson, Thomas." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2008. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. 19 Feb. 2008.
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Bfd.
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Rewrote the gospels minus the miracles and supernatural.


Whether anybody accepts this fact or not...it's true.
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Link?
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"The improvement of the blacks in body and mind, in the first instance of their mixture with the whites, has been observed by every one, and proves that their inferiority is not effect merely of their condition of life."

'Thomas Jefferson'

Jefferson, Thomas. "Notes on the State of Virginia." The Portable Thomas Jefferson. Ed. Merrill D. Peterson. New York: Penguin, 1975. 188

Anyone who will argue that a race is inferior to another, based on the observation of that race's people in enslavement, stripped of their natural language, is ignorant at best.

I'm not trying to ruin the TJ lovefest, I'm just pointing out the fact that we as Americans tend to romanticize historical figures as long as any bad they've done wasn't to us or ours.

Fortunately for you in regards to TJ, that's true.

Romanticize away!
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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson

That is exactly what slave-owners did, take from those who work.

The irony is fucking rich.
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TJ was a slave owner, but you must consider that this was normal for the times and culture. He also treated his slaves as family, though sometimes too much as family :) Upon his death all his slaves were granted freedom.

You must consider the culture and time frame.

He was a great man and if we fail to measure up to the wisdom of the founding fathers we will surely no longer be a nation of free men.

Say what you will, Thomas jefferson was a great and wise man.

You don't like the founding fathers and the constitution?

Get the fuck out of MY country.

I'm going to reboot it.

It certainly needs a reboot, and some serious antivirus as well.


You have little to say, I know your country well. You barely even know your own identity.

What is that now?

Your great founding fathers and principles?

So easy to criticize, so lead us out of it will ya?

A?
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We will friend, just not in the way most would expect.

Chin up, your patriotism, along with others does not go unnoticed.

Storm's commin'
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"Despite his famous rhetoric of liberty, equality, freedom, and self-rule as the principles upon which our nation was founded, Thomas Jefferson was a slave holder owning at least 200 slaves, and thus, a hypocrite until his death in 1826."

"Jefferson, Thomas." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2008. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. 19 Feb. 2008.
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It would of been horrible had he just released them without an actual place to work and get food/shelter. In those times, those slaves probably had it pretty good. It's not like they were going to go and get an education, start a business and invest in properties and such... It's not like he whipped and beat his "slaves".
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TJ was a slave owner, but you must consider that this was normal for the times and culture. He also treated his slaves as family, though sometimes too much as family :) Upon his death all his slaves were granted freedom.

You must consider the culture and time frame.

He was a great man and if we fail to measure up to the wisdom of the founding fathers we will surely no longer be a nation of free men.

Say what you will, Thomas jefferson was a great and wise man.

You don't like the founding fathers and the constitution?

Get the fuck out of MY country while you can.

I'm going to reboot it with a little help from whats coming.
 Quoting: Frater


NIce Frater, it is time. yoda
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"Despite his famous rhetoric of liberty, equality, freedom, and self-rule as the principles upon which our nation was founded, Thomas Jefferson was a slave holder owning at least 200 slaves, and thus, a hypocrite until his death in 1826."

"Jefferson, Thomas." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2008. Encyclopædia Britannica Online. 19 Feb. 2008.


It would of been horrible had he just released them without an actual place to work and get food/shelter. In those times, those slaves probably had it pretty good. It's not like they were going to go and get an education, start a business and invest in properties and such... It's not like he whipped and beat his "slaves".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973795


"After Jefferson died his family members turned mad men, and started to kill alot of us slaves."

Sally Hemmings


Bad situations always have a way of turning tragic...

(OP, I did read your OM and I agree TJ was a very remarkable and insightful man. I also understand that your intent was to show that TJ was notably intelligent, and had a lot to say about government that we in the present would be wise to heed. Didn't intend to derail that worthy advice! Sorry about that.)
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and if he were alive today to see what the usa/gov't has been turned into, he would should himself in the head.., and that goes for all vets and kia and mia's too.

or maybe he would shoot a banker and a congressman first..
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It's not like he whipped and beat his "slaves".
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Yea he just raped em.
No biggie.

You folks don't see any problem with your father of freedom being a slave holder.

I love the well it was common for the time, or he was a good slave holder.

What a joke.
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It's not like he whipped and beat his "slaves".
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Yea he just raped em.
No biggie.

You folks don't see any problem with your father of freedom being a slave holder.

I love the well it was common for the time, or he was a good slave holder.

What a joke.
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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world. - Thomas Jefferson



Pity the America of Obama choose to ignore this.
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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson


Pity the America of Obama choose to ignore this.
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Pity that Jeffersonian American choose to ignore it to.

Slavery took away from those who worked and gave to those who did not.

Jefferson was insane.
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i know of a bum who did more than that. we're so desperate for heroes as american we're starting to relate to fictional character like sherlock and batman. admit it, we have no heroes in our country.
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We're doomed.
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Too bad he was masonic and worshipping horus behind the scenes.

Damn i spoiled the fun again.

So why is this person so great?

Seriously why?

So you think you know him?

You think smart means good and noble!

I guess sheep will never learn.

Was the guy religious or in the occult?

Ah the bill of rights right i'm sure it's not some kind of paper intended to control the masses sure.

But wait there is more ah the decleration of "independance" made the same date that the illuminati was put in place by adam weishaupt.

1776

Remeber this date.

What did i spoil the fun again?

That's just me saying all the annoying things no one wan't to hear anyway.
As the world surrenders to tyranny will you do the same thing?

Will you be able to stand your ground without faith?

Think about it!

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