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Australian Prime Minister cannot name any laws that Julian Assange has broken, opposition spokesman says he has broken no laws

 
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Australian Prime Minister cannot name any laws that Julian Assange has broken, opposition spokesman says he has broken no laws
They want to lock up Julian Assange. But he hasn't broken any laws in Australia or USA. So how can they lock him up??? (Nobody knows what will happen to him in Sweden.) They can't lock him up just because they don't like him or what he does. That would be dictatorship.


"Prime Minister Julia Gillard again has been unable to name any Australian laws broken by the controversial WikiLeaks website or its founder Julian Assange."

"Opposition legal affairs spokesman George Brandis accused Ms Gillard of being "clumsy" with her language on the issue of illegality.

"As far as I can see, he (Mr Assange) hasn't broken any Australian law," he told Sky News.

"Nor does it appear he has broken any American laws."

Senator Brandis, a Queen's Counsel, called for any debate about the publishing of the cables to have a well-defined understanding of the difference between something which appeared to be morally wrong and an act which was illegal."


[link to www.smh.com.au]
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Re: Australian Prime Minister cannot name any laws that Julian Assange has broken, opposition spokesman says he has broken no laws
he has broken egyptian shark poaching laws
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Re: Australian Prime Minister cannot name any laws that Julian Assange has broken, opposition spokesman says he has broken no laws
Does it really surprise anyone?


I can't stand that woman.
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he has broken egyptian shark poaching laws
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lock him up!!!!
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12/06/2010 07:23 PM
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Because he hasn't broken any
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he has broken egyptian shark poaching laws
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wtf Egyptian shark eggs?
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12/06/2010 07:27 PM
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They can't lock him up just because they don't like him or what he does. That would be dictatorship.


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dude, innocent people get kidnapped by USA/it's allies & sent to be tortured in distant nations and you believe they won't do that to Julian Assange?
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They can't lock him up just because they don't like him or what he does. That would be dictatorship.

dude, innocent people get kidnapped by USA/it's allies & sent to be tortured in distant nations and you believe they won't do that to Julian Assange?
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They might well do that to Julian Assange. The point is, if they do, it would be illegal. They know he hasn't broken the law, he knows it, everybody knows it. If he gets kidnapped and tortured, everybody will notice. Will the Australian or US government take the risk of proving they are criminals to silence Mr Assange?
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Will the Australian or US government take the risk of proving they are criminals to silence Mr Assange?
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do you think they care what people think about them, laws do not apply to them!
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What the fuck are laws anyway? Just a set of rules they have laid down for us to live by and be punished for transgressing. While the powers that be follow no rules and do whatever the hell they want.

Julian is guilty of refusing to be subservient to tptb. They will find some 'law' to breech him on, so they can silence him.
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Julian is guilty of refusing to be subservient to tptb. They will find some 'law' to breech him on, so they can silence him.
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They've got a Parliament, they could try MAKING a law to lock him up with. However, there is no guarantee they could get the law through the House of Representatives and the Senate. And plus it would probably make "whistleblowing" illegal.
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Will the Australian or US government take the risk of proving they are criminals to silence Mr Assange?


do you think they care what people think about them, laws do not apply to them!
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I think they do care. If they lock him up just because they want to, they will suffer in the future.
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They want to lock up Julian Assange. But he hasn't broken any laws in Australia or USA. So how can they lock him up??? (Nobody knows what will happen to him in Sweden.) They can't lock him up just because they don't like him or what he does. That would be dictatorship.


"Prime Minister Julia Gillard again has been unable to name any Australian laws broken by the controversial WikiLeaks website or its founder Julian Assange."

"Opposition legal affairs spokesman George Brandis accused Ms Gillard of being "clumsy" with her language on the issue of illegality.

"As far as I can see, he (Mr Assange) hasn't broken any Australian law," he told Sky News.

"Nor does it appear he has broken any American laws."

Senator Brandis, a Queen's Counsel, called for any debate about the publishing of the cables to have a well-defined understanding of the difference between something which appeared to be morally wrong and an act which was illegal."


[link to www.smh.com.au]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185500



They can do what they want, when they want, to whomever they want... Anyone who thinks otherwise is a....
Total Protonic Reversal...
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They can do what they want, when they want, to whomever they want... Anyone who thinks otherwise is a....
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exactly
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Re: Australian Prime Minister cannot name any laws that Julian Assange has broken, opposition spokesman says he has broken no laws
he has broken egyptian shark poaching laws


We've got to protect the eggs.
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Maybe you should try protecting Australians!

Will no one stand up for this man?

This is a disgrace!
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12/06/2010 08:06 PM
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Thanks for posting this, OP.

WikiLeaks: new diplomatic cables contain UFO details, Julian Assange says:
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Reporters Without Borders defend Wikileaks:
[link to en.rsf.org]

So why is Wikileaks a good thing again:
[link to sowhyiswikileaksagoodthingagain.com]

Don't give in to all these ridiculous, paranoid fears. Wikileaks is doing something unique. If people support these conspiracy junkies with their outrageous conspiracy within a conspiracy within a conspiracy theory, they are in an indirect way helping a good effort for freedom of information and a real democracy, to be completely destroyed.

I am 100% certain Wikileaks is still genuine. I was using it years ago for all kinds of info about cults, regimes and controversial movements, and am still using it now.

If people start preaching everywhere that everything is under control of the government and everything is a conspiracy and everything is designed to enslave us, they're also ruling out every possibility for something good.

Good things still exist, and i am absolutely certain Wikileaks is one of them.
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Julian is guilty of refusing to be subservient to tptb. They will find some 'law' to breech him on, so they can silence him.


They've got a Parliament, they could try MAKING a law to lock him up with. However, there is no guarantee they could get the law through the House of Representatives and the Senate. And plus it would probably make "whistleblowing" illegal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185500


I read a story about a guy who tried to blow the whistle on corrupt Centrelink employees. They pretended to be his friend and interested in his facts. In the meantime, they were investigating him, looking for a way to frame him to discredit him. They then enacted a law, under which to prosecute him, and then erased the law once they had used it, just the once. The law itself didn't even make sense. They can do whatever they want, to whomever they want.

Do they care about the PR affect of their actions in the long term. Na!
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Re: Australian Prime Minister cannot name any laws that Julian Assange has broken, opposition spokesman says he has broken no laws
They've got a Parliament, they could try MAKING a law to lock him up with. However, there is no guarantee they could get the law through the House of Representatives and the Senate. And plus it would probably make "whistleblowing" illegal.


I read a story about a guy who tried to blow the whistle on corrupt Centrelink employees. They pretended to be his friend and interested in his facts. In the meantime, they were investigating him, looking for a way to frame him to discredit him. They then enacted a law, under which to prosecute him, and then erased the law once they had used it, just the once. The law itself didn't even make sense. They can do whatever they want, to whomever they want.

Do they care about the PR affect of their actions in the long term. Na!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1174986


They locked up villagers they caught in Afghanistan. They could almost get away with doing that. They can harass and lock up an "unimportant" individual if they feel like it, and probably won't get into much trouble.

But lots of people have heard of Julian Assange, and lots of people know that he is not a criminal. All he has done is published leaked material. That is the same thing that newspaper editors, television producers, and even people who post to blogs and forums have done. Surely they can't lock all those people up.

They can't lock up Assange because:

* He hasn't committed a crime (except maybe in Sweden)

* Lots of people are watching

* Plenty of other people have published or republished the same information.

* Locking him up won't stop the other people at Wikileaks from publishing more information anyway.

This situation is like the government is saying that they support freedom of speech, except in cases where "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!".
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We've got to protect the eggs.


Maybe you should try protecting Australians!

Will no one stand up for this man?

This is a disgrace!
 Quoting: Canadian Cold Front


I will but he must choose the way of the egg first.
All great truths begin as blasphemies.
Nobody's sister set it up the bomb so talk to her.
Siriusly ... most of the time I'm only jokering around.
Sanity is a crazy man's crazy in a crazy world.
:Exile:
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They locked up villagers they caught in Afghanistan. They could almost get away with doing that. They can harass and lock up an "unimportant" individual if they feel like it, and probably won't get into much trouble.

But lots of people have heard of Julian Assange, and lots of people know that he is not a criminal. All he has done is published leaked material. That is the same thing that newspaper editors, television producers, and even people who post to blogs and forums have done. Surely they can't lock all those people up.

They can't lock up Assange because:

* He hasn't committed a crime (except maybe in Sweden)

* Lots of people are watching

* Plenty of other people have published or republished the same information.

* Locking him up won't stop the other people at Wikileaks from publishing more information anyway.

This situation is like the government is saying that they support freedom of speech, except in cases where "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185500


Well ... if they can't lock him up, they will just have to kill him and make it look like an accident. Not sure which is worse.
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This is really stupid. Julia Gillard has a Bachelor of Laws degree. She worked as a lawyer. She was even a partner in a law firm. She should know better.
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Daniel Elsberg is a hero for giving us the PENTAGON PAPERS, ............ ANAT KAMM , Helen Caldicott , mordecai Vannunu , Rabbi Michael Lerner and GOSH SHALOM are heroes for opposing the JDL / CHABBAD HIT SQUADS and the zionist fifth coumn ......... see THE ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALESTINE by Ilan Pappe .

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