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URGENT - BRITAIN TO FREEZE DUE TO DEATH OF THE GULF STREAM

 
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Re: URGENT - BRITAIN TO FREEZE DUE TO DEATH OF THE GULF STREAM
isn't it an el nino year?


No that was last year that brought a foot of snow in Dallas, Texas which was a record. It's La Nina which has the opposite effect for me. Very dry and mild weather. Big emphasis on very dry.

No idea how La Nina affect your area. La Nina means the Pacific Ocean is cooler than average. El Nino means warmer than average in Pacific Ocean. It influences the pattern of jet stream.


Our weather people are blaming our weather on a large la nina this year.
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Makes sense
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12/19/2010 02:32 AM
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The weather is a reflection of people's heart.
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12/19/2010 03:18 AM
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The weather is a reflection of people's heart.
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Hmm
So warming good
Cooling bad?
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12/19/2010 01:09 PM
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Global Warming is a massive CARBON TAX HOAX and Whitley Strieber is wrong about THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW.

Now, relax, and vote those PROFIT-mongering fuckers out of office.

:)
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12/19/2010 01:11 PM
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The weather is a reflection of people's heart.


Hmm
So warming good
Cooling bad?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1200003


Sweden in 'coldest December in 100 years'
[link to www.thelocal.se]

OPs weather prediction appears right on, but the cause is suspect.

The "warming" argument seems a bit hollow does it not?
And surrendering terminology on that account to something called "change' is unsubstancial.
So shouldn't the fuss be in the opposite direction, fear of cold?
Damage to food supply would be dramatic, whereas the supposed "warming" would do the opposite- increase the food supply.
Food and warmth are the most important possession of humankind.
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The weather is a reflection of people's heart.


Hmm
So warming good
Cooling bad?


Sweden in 'coldest December in 100 years'
[link to www.thelocal.se]

OPs weather prediction appears right on, but the cause is suspect.

The "warming" argument seems a bit hollow does it not?
And surrendering terminology on that account to something called "change' is unsubstancial.
So shouldn't the fuss be in the opposite direction, fear of cold?
Damage to food supply would be dramatic, whereas the supposed "warming" would do the opposite- increase the food supply.
Food and warmth are the most important possession of humankind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1200362


OP was speaking of UK and not Europe
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12/19/2010 01:30 PM
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The weather is a reflection of people's heart.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034593


That'll be why the goodness of the Romans hearts allowed them to grow grapes and make wine in Britain?
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I've posted this in 2 other places just so people should know:

I heard they are going to bypass legislation in US by handing over management of "global warming problem" to "Homeland Security".
The excuse is that it is a national security risk! Bright huh?....Environmentalists take heed.....continue being a usefull idiot for the establishment of the "New Reichstag".
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12/20/2010 08:43 PM
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The weather is a reflection of people's heart.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034593

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Ouch! I dont know that you can make that observation -- people have warm and kind hearts no matter where they live !!.

However I do have a feeling that killing heartlessly can affect weather... Always thought that the Aztecs wipeout might have had something to do with their ripping out of hearts of children and sacrificing them on the alters - as appeasement to the GODS.

There are natural laws of LIFE which when corrupted have a
fatal response for the perpetrators....
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For those who call Doom whenever UK weather breaks another record, here is a list of records maintained by the UK Met Office:

[link to www.metoffice.gov.uk]

Note that weather extremes, in both directions, seem to happen a lot within the last 50-60 years. But there is a statistical bias here. The Met Office was only founded in 1854, and although there are good records from before then, they are patchy both in time and geographical coverage. In fact, thorough coverage only dates from the late 19th century.

So, given let's say only a mere 120-150 years of exact data, it's entirely likely that record-breakers will cluster towards the end of the time scale, especially when there are that many records to break once you look at things on a monthly level.

(Broken records mean nothing. It's long-term temperature trends that are meaningful and those, overall, show that the UK is warming.)


Does this also follow for long term Artic/Antartic ice melt/buildup?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199661


That's exactly my point. Any rational assessment of icemelt depends on looking at long-term trends, not outliers like record breaking - and local - cold/warm spells (that's weather, not climate). The results are currently controversial in terms of how rapidly icesheets are melting, huge 'error bars', but the general scientific consensus is that they are. I'm not a fanatic about climate change, but I'd put my money on the broad consensus (while reserving the right to quibble about the details).
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12/20/2010 10:38 PM
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Anyone in South UK to report back?
How are flights in and out..Temps?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199458


Snow is melting.

Tested temperature twice by placing bottle of water outside for three hours.

Water did not freeze.

Level of snow was moderate. Seen four, five times us much back in the 80s, and on a more regular and permanent basis.

Conclusion?

Faked winter hyped by media.

Second conclusion?

Temperatures are on the rise.
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12/22/2010 02:40 AM
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Anyone in South UK to report back?
How are flights in and out..Temps?


Snow is melting.

Tested temperature twice by placing bottle of water outside for three hours.

Water did not freeze.

Level of snow was moderate. Seen four, five times us much back in the 80s, and on a more regular and permanent basis.

Conclusion?

Faked winter hyped by media.

Second conclusion?

Temperatures are on the rise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202017


Temps still rising/snow thawing?
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12/22/2010 02:50 AM
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If it is truly that serious, why don't they get Phony Tony and Co. to provide free heating gas & oil in exchange for creating this ELE in the first place?

Who can help those who won't help themselves?
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12/22/2010 02:58 AM
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Anyone in South UK to report back?
How are flights in and out..Temps?


Snow is melting.

Tested temperature twice by placing bottle of water outside for three hours.

Water did not freeze.

Level of snow was moderate. Seen four, five times us much back in the 80s, and on a more regular and permanent basis.

Conclusion?

Faked winter hyped by media.

Second conclusion?

Temperatures are on the rise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202017



Yorkshire here. The heavy snow has melted but over the last 3 days very heavy frost with NO thaw in the daytime. Outside water freezing within 2-3 hours. Overnight dusting of snow and local temps forecast to stay below freezing again today.
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Anyone in South UK to report back?
How are flights in and out..Temps?


Snow is melting.

Tested temperature twice by placing bottle of water outside for three hours.

Water did not freeze.

Level of snow was moderate. Seen four, five times us much back in the 80s, and on a more regular and permanent basis.

Conclusion?

Faked winter hyped by media.

Second conclusion?

Temperatures are on the rise.


Temps still rising/snow thawing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1203293


95% thawed in London.

Wasn't much to begin with.

2nd thaw this "winter"!
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weve had a good 3 inches here in chshire woke up to it this morning but the snow that fell heavey last friday night and saturday afternoon has hung around because of temps not getting up from an average of -5 throught the day its been perishingly cold, ive never felt it so cold as i have this year not even when i was child in the 70s did i feel this cold
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weve had a good 3 inches here in chshire woke up to it this morning but the snow that fell heavey last friday night and saturday afternoon has hung around because of temps not getting up from an average of -5 throught the day its been perishingly cold, ive never felt it so cold as i have this year not even when i was child in the 70s did i feel this cold
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Thanks for all the reports!
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weve had a good 3 inches here in chshire woke up to it this morning but the snow that fell heavey last friday night and saturday afternoon has hung around because of temps not getting up from an average of -5 throught the day its been perishingly cold, ive never felt it so cold as i have this year not even when i was child in the 70s did i feel this cold


Thanks for all the reports!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1203723


tHE ONE YOU RESPONDED TO IS BOGUS.

There's only muddy slush left.
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12/22/2010 01:27 PM
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There will be a major cold attack in the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, the UK, France and Ireland next week. Day temperatures -4/-12°C and night temperatures -10/-23°C.

There will be a White Christmas in many areas.

Prepare. [link to www.wetterzentrale.de]
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12/22/2010 01:29 PM
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There will be a major cold attack in the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, the UK, France and Ireland next week. Day temperatures -4/-12°C and night temperatures -10/-23°C.

There will be a White Christmas in many areas.

Prepare. [link to www.wetterzentrale.de]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1203583


Didn't they promise this last week?

Some sprinkles fell and melted.
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Leicester here. Temps have only reached above freezing once or twice this passed week, overnight we had 10cm of snow the most I've seen since the 90s, currently -3c. More expected over-night.
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weve had a good 3 inches here in chshire woke up to it this morning but the snow that fell heavey last friday night and saturday afternoon has hung around because of temps not getting up from an average of -5 throught the day its been perishingly cold, ive never felt it so cold as i have this year not even when i was child in the 70s did i feel this cold


Thanks for all the reports!


tHE ONE YOU RESPONDED TO IS BOGUS.

There's only muddy slush left.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1203713


Nope. I live on South Cheshire border and it's exactly as User ID: 1199592 says. It went very much colder - real cold - after the snowfall this morning and according to forecasts the temp will stay below 0C for the next four days.
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weve had a good 3 inches here in chshire woke up to it this morning but the snow that fell heavey last friday night and saturday afternoon has hung around because of temps not getting up from an average of -5 throught the day its been perishingly cold, ive never felt it so cold as i have this year not even when i was child in the 70s did i feel this cold


Thanks for all the reports!


tHE ONE YOU RESPONDED TO IS BOGUS.

There's only muddy slush left.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1203713


Muddy Slush? Are you in the far south of the UK? Sure it may be above freezing in London and the like but further north it is much much colder. So don't call out bogus unless you live where this poster does.
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weve had a good 3 inches here in chshire woke up to it this morning but the snow that fell heavey last friday night and saturday afternoon has hung around because of temps not getting up from an average of -5 throught the day its been perishingly cold, ive never felt it so cold as i have this year not even when i was child in the 70s did i feel this cold


Thanks for all the reports!


tHE ONE YOU RESPONDED TO IS BOGUS.

There's only muddy slush left.


Nope. I live on South Cheshire border and it's exactly as User ID: 1199592 says. It went very much colder - real cold - after the snowfall this morning and according to forecasts the temp will stay below 0C for the next four days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1203735


Well. That's your problem.

Down here it's all clear (bar the mud) for the second time in as many weeks.

It isn't even cold.
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12/22/2010 01:34 PM
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I'm in Northern Ireland. No thaw here, water outside freezes in 2 - 3 hours during the day. So fed up with this weather.
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Essex coast expecting more snow tomorrow, yes feeling fed up, but hay lets count our blessing please xmas
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UK: WINTER MAY BE COLDEST IN 1000 YEARS..
[link to www.dailystar.co.uk]





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