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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1192841 Puerto Rico 12/12/2010 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1163101 That rant is going to cause an investigation. |
Strangeways User ID: 843752 Australia 12/12/2010 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Secretive Banking Elite Rules Trading in Derivatives Quoting: Anonymous Coward 862727By LOUISE STORY Published: December 11, 2010 On the third Wednesday of every month, the nine members of an elite Wall Street society gather in Midtown Manhattan. The men share a common goal: to protect the interests of big banks in the vast market for derivatives, one of the most profitable — and controversial — fields in finance. They also share a common secret: The details of their meetings, even their identities, have been strictly confidential. cont'd: [link to www.nytimes.com] Yep, these guys need to be exposed to the public. Make their names well known and splattered across the newspapers and internet. We are but eternal spiritual beings living a temporary human experience. |
susano User ID: 1164283 United States 12/12/2010 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NYT = Evil propaganda media tool of the elite Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038200Like anyone doesn't know that a "secretive banking elite" controls the entire market. The NYT led the rally call for the war in Iraq... and they were notably anti Bush. What does that tell you? Democrats and Republicans have a slush fund from the banksters toilet. So sad how cheaply they can be bought and/or blackmailed. Yes, they played both sides of the fence. Judy Miller was the main WMD shill girl. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1066325 United States 12/12/2010 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ex-Goldman Programmer Found Guilty of Code Theft Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1193073The case that put a spotlight on the world of ultra-fast, computer-driven trading of stocks has ended in a conviction. Sergey Aleynikov, a 40-year-old former Goldman Sachs programmer, was found guilty on Friday by a federal jury in Manhattan of stealing proprietary source code from the bank’s high-frequency trading platform. He was convicted on two counts — theft of trade secrets and transportation of stolen property — and faces up to 10 years in prison. [link to dealbook.nytimes.com] I wondered what happened to him. Were the charges legit? It would seem he has been setup by corrupt politicians and legal people in cahoots with Goldman Sachs. It seems they didn't want him working in the biz anymore where he could write competing algorithms that steal profits from Goldman Sucks. The whole Jury was a fraud on the take bribed. This is what im seeing. |
BloodRed User ID: 1033557 United States 12/12/2010 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ~ Y'all Are CrAzY Doom Tards!! But I love y'all anyway... well, not the shills, not so much... ~ ~ Wanna know what we're all here for? THEY know: [link to www.youtube.com] ... So if _THEY_ can manage this, why in the world are WE such hateful fail-tards, people ........ ? ~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1193069 United States 12/12/2010 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NYT = Evil propaganda media tool of the elite Quoting: susanoLike anyone doesn't know that a "secretive banking elite" controls the entire market. The NYT led the rally call for the war in Iraq... and they were notably anti Bush. What does that tell you? Democrats and Republicans have a slush fund from the banksters toilet. So sad how cheaply they can be bought and/or blackmailed. Yes, they played both sides of the fence. Judy Miller was the main WMD shill girl. What about Joe Wilson saying there was or is no yellow cake, and what about his beautiful wife Valorie Plume; they ousted while on active duty. Not limited to but including the 3,000 plus souls they slaughtered, the same with 7/7 going live. Dont believe the hype. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1192485 United States 12/12/2010 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Secretive Banking Elite Rules Trading in Derivatives Quoting: Anonymous Coward 862727By LOUISE STORY Published: December 11, 2010 On the third Wednesday of every month, the nine members of an elite Wall Street society gather in Midtown Manhattan. The men share a common goal: to protect the interests of big banks in the vast market for derivatives, one of the most profitable — and controversial — fields in finance. They also share a common secret: The details of their meetings, even their identities, have been strictly confidential. cont'd: [link to www.nytimes.com] We're being suppressed and deceived big time. Whoever is behind this is like a global magician using not sleigh of hand methods but sleigh of minds to deceive us into deceiving ourselves. Mainstream media, education, social culture (popularized by design), are all working together as a machine to rule and control our consciousness and to keep us from ever finding out or re-discovering the truth about our history. Everything that we think is part of our history that stretches back hundreds or thousands of years is probably all false and was re-written by whoever conquered our planet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 995136 United States 12/12/2010 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You, your body, your children, your house, your soul. you own none of them. You are given the gift of them by God and God can and will ask for payment one day. Quoting: Home 1181965That's not much of a gift. I do not expect a loving God to ask for payment for the gift of life. Are we accountable for what we do with our gifts? Certainly. But I do not believe that we owe payment on them. If so, it was no gift at all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1193361 Canada 12/12/2010 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ex-Goldman Programmer Found Guilty of Code Theft Quoting: HitndahedfredThe case that put a spotlight on the world of ultra-fast, computer-driven trading of stocks has ended in a conviction. Sergey Aleynikov, a 40-year-old former Goldman Sachs programmer, was found guilty on Friday by a federal jury in Manhattan of stealing proprietary source code from the bank’s high-frequency trading platform. He was convicted on two counts — theft of trade secrets and transportation of stolen property — and faces up to 10 years in prison. [link to dealbook.nytimes.com] that will teach him and all other whistleblowers (or spy, who knows) Truly I think he did it by accident when trying to download his own stuff because he was already on 400k a year he wasn't poor. And this "Mr. Aleynikov acknowledged uploading code but told the F.B.I. that he never intended to steal Goldman’s proprietary information. Instead, he merely wanted to take some publicly available open-source code with him on the way out the door." About a third of the wat into the article. I think he was offered a better job, and wanted OPEN SOURCE to go with hin BUT Once it is on company PCs it belongs to the company. He should have read his personal contrart and understood it. Besides that,, he would have had a no competition clause in his contract too. You're missing the real point: US Attorney Kicks Own Goal (On Goldman)? One has to wonder.... “The bank has raised the possibility that there is a danger that somebody who knew how to use this program could use it to manipulate markets in unfair ways,” Facciponti said, according to a recording of the hearing made public today. “The copy in Germany is still out there, and we at this time do not know who else has access to it.” Uhhhhhhhhh..... Let's see.... so someone who knows how to use this program can use it to manipulate markets can they? Is that manipulation "in fair ways" if Goldman uses it, but "unfair ways' if someone other than Goldman uses it? That seems to be a rather different claim than this: July 6 (Bloomberg) -- Goldman Sachs Group Inc. may lose its investment in a proprietary trading code and millions of dollars from increased competition if software allegedly stolen by a former employee gets into the wrong hands, a prosecutor said. Well of course. That's what these sorts of cases are usually about. Someone misappropriates some trade secret material and by using it they would give someone the same advantages in a marketplace that the rightful owner (who spent plenty to develop it) has. But that's not market manipulation, is it? Once again, the claim made in open court: “The bank has raised the possibility that there is a danger that somebody who knew how to use this program could use it to manipulate markets in unfair ways,” Facciponti said, according to a recording of the hearing made public today. Did Assistant US Attorney Facciponti make an erroneous statement, or did he just lay a nuclear egg on the table, step back, and set it off - on accident - admitting in open court that the software in question "can be used to manipulate markets"? Inquiring minds would like to know. [link to market-ticker.org] The case of the stolen Goldman software By Dana Blankenhorn Jul 7, 2009 A Russian immigrant is arrested at Newark Airport and charged with theft of trade secrets in the form of software. But these are no ordinary secrets. The immigrant is a former Goldman Sachs vice president and the software is the trading company’s “secret sauce,” a system it uses to earn millions of dollars each year for its clients, partners and shareholders... [link to www.smartplanet.com] Breaking: FBI Arrest Opens Goldman-Sachs' Pandora's Box [link to whatreallyhappened.com] Goldman Sachs Punked? The Case of the Stolen Proprietary Algorithm [...] "One of the most famous theories on Wall Street is the Random Walk theory propagated by Burton Malkiel, who has asserted that it is impossible to make speculative profits trading equities because Wall Street prices move randomly. No one can predict a truly random market. This theory has achieved great credibility because of the considerable anecdotal support it receives. Anyone who has invested in a mutual fund or listened to a Wall Street broker knows that these “experts” seem to be right 50% of the time. In fact, these experts tell you not to invest short term because the randomness of prices will kill you. The U.S. government is telling us something different, through Assistant District Attorney Facciponti. Random Walk may well be the situation facing such investors as you and me, but it is not the case for select insiders such as Goldman Sachs. In the first quarter alone, they generated $2 billion in trading profits just from equities trading. They may have access to inside information, or they may have discovered the Holy Grail of markets, or they may have sophisticated proprietary algorithms, or they can simply bully their way to profits. Whatever the answer, they will profit in good markets and bad markets. Life is anything but random for them. When someone like Mr. Aleynikov interferes with their exclusive and very profitable and very non-random situation, he deserves to go to jail. Nothing should stand in the way of Goldman Sachs profiting from a market that benefits no one else. Which brings us back to the suspicious statement that if someone other than Goldman Sachs were to have access to this software, they could “manipulate markets in unfair ways.” This is opposed to Goldman Sachs, which is using the program to manipulate markets, but somehow their manipulation is fair. At least so thinks the U.S. government, but it is very unlikely the average investor agrees. The performance of the global equity markets in 2008 was atrocious, but worse still – investors have nothing to show for their investments now going back to 1999. A decade of waste, or worse if you were among the many millions who borrowed against your home or traded up to a house that you can no longer afford. All during this time, one firm at least has prospered. It now dominates a stock market in which at least a quarter of the trades are unrelated to the buying and selling of stocks as long term investments. It has seen many of its traditional rivals such as Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns disappear. It routinely shuffles its executives back and forth to high positions in the government. Should anyone trample on its prerogatives, even if it is a foolish individual, it can bring the full weight and majesty of the federal government to bear on the transgressor. While Goldman Sachs thrives, and the rest of us pay the price for their profitability and extraordinary bonuses, is anyone – anyone at all – asking whatever happened to free markets as the linchpin of a capitalist economy?" [link to agonist.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1193390 United States 12/12/2010 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where there is price non-transparency, there is a near infinitesimal amounts of money to be made. This is how solomon brothers became the most profitable company in the world, trading price opaque bond markets. The buyers and sellers have no idea how badly there are getting screwed; non disclosed out of mind I guess. All great fortunes were made by men who clearly understood the value in things whilst the masses stood by and misunderstood. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1094127 United States 12/12/2010 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Secretive Banking Elite Rules Trading in Derivatives Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1171029By LOUISE STORY Published: December 11, 2010 On the third Wednesday of every month, the nine members of an elite Wall Street society gather in Midtown Manhattan. The men share a common goal: to protect the interests of big banks in the vast market for derivatives, one of the most profitable — and controversial — fields in finance. They also share a common secret: The details of their meetings, even their identities, have been strictly confidential. cont'd: [link to www.nytimes.com] ""The banks in this group, which is affiliated with a new derivatives clearinghouse, have fought to block other banks from entering the market, and they are also trying to thwart efforts to make full information on prices and fees freely available." repeat "... and they are also trying to thwart efforts to make full information on prices and fees freely available." This is the "secret" to how they make sure only they make money in this market. In other word, it is pure market manipulation. So much for the free market mantra |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 516293 United States 12/12/2010 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Secretive Banking Elite Rules Trading in Derivatives Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1192841By LOUISE STORY Published: December 11, 2010 On the third Wednesday of every month, the nine members of an elite Wall Street society gather in Midtown Manhattan. The men share a common goal: to protect the interests of big banks in the vast market for derivatives, one of the most profitable — and controversial — fields in finance. They also share a common secret: The details of their meetings, even their identities, have been strictly confidential. cont'd: [link to www.nytimes.com] ""The banks in this group, which is affiliated with a new derivatives clearinghouse, have fought to block other banks from entering the market, and they are also trying to thwart efforts to make full information on prices and fees freely available." repeat "... and they are also trying to thwart efforts to make full information on prices and fees freely available." This is the "secret" to how they make sure only they make money in this market. In other word, it is pure market manipulation. This would make them liable to be sued under the RICO Act by anybody that derivatives in the portfolio. Yeah, it would if our justice department was honest, but they work for the tptb too. That's the beauty of the corrupt system. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1168836 United States 12/12/2010 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BELOW IS A WEBSITE THAT BELONGS TO A SECRET SOCIETY. Quoting: ILLUMINATI KILLER 1192595THE FALSE PROPHET IS A FLIPPING IDIOT. AND HE DOESN'T WANT ME TO DIVULGE THE WEBSITE'S ADDRESS WHERE PEOPLE GO TO ACCESS PEOPLE'S MINDS. NEVERTHELESS, HERE IT IS: [link to secure1.scottishrite.org (secure)] P/W? |
Degaz User ID: 1154162 United States 12/12/2010 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My theory is that with the derivatives issue being reported everywhere else, NYTimes had to do a fluff piece acknowledging the issue as to retain credibility. They don't dare name names and furthermore, the sheep are so fast asleep after this stuff is reported, they can admit whatever they want and the anger will subside as soon as dancing with the stars comes on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1154162 United States 12/12/2010 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While millions of people are unemployed and unemployable the macro Quoting: Mr. Toppiteconomy is in peak debt expansion, the super bubble of all time All the derivatives on Planet Earth are worth about $ .25 ... a pile of dog poop. The 9 useless eaters can die the way Madoff's son went, dog collars around their necks. This is a prediction of their future careers in high finance. i would never pay that much for dog poop. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1154162 United States 12/12/2010 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all a gigantic waste of time. These fools own nothing. No one owns anything. If you understand how nature-God works you will understand that. All these fools and the fools that believe they have "power" when they have none own nothing. Quoting: Home 1181965You, your body, your children, your house, your soul. you own none of them. You are given the gift of them by God and God can and will ask for payment one day. You make no sense. A gift implies no payment due. Are you planning on giving Christmas gifts this year and asking for payment one day? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1193435 Australia 12/12/2010 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My theory is that with the derivatives issue being reported everywhere else, NYTimes had to do a fluff piece acknowledging the issue as to retain credibility. They don't dare name names and furthermore, the sheep are so fast asleep after this stuff is reported, they can admit whatever they want and the anger will subside as soon as dancing with the stars comes on. Quoting: Degaz 1154162 |
:) User ID: 1193361 Canada 12/12/2010 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BELOW IS A WEBSITE THAT BELONGS TO A SECRET SOCIETY. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1168836THE FALSE PROPHET IS A FLIPPING IDIOT. AND HE DOESN'T WANT ME TO DIVULGE THE WEBSITE'S ADDRESS WHERE PEOPLE GO TO ACCESS PEOPLE'S MINDS. NEVERTHELESS, HERE IT IS: [link to secure1.scottishrite.org (secure)] P/W? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1185949 United States 12/12/2010 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before the towers were demolished there was a business in one of them named beastfinancial.com. It was a derivatives trading platform. It was resurrected after the towers fell and was integrated totally into the NYSE and the global trading system. Quoting: susanoTheBEAST.com became beastfinancial.com or Beast Financial Systems. It was merged with NYFIX to become NYFX, a global equity and derivatives financial trading system. Their Framework Technology has spread to the four corners of the world. Its comprised of ten groups of global technology business. There are ten private E-Finance Companies involved in financing these global technology businesses. This 'beast' is built upon Seven Advantages. The first 'beast' has risen and the second 'beast' is about to! It will cause all to be electronically 'marked' on the right hand or forehead! And you people doubted that what was written in the Holy Bible would come to pass? The deception is great! "Just looking at the news today we can begin to see the genesis of a world wide wireless web that is and will transform the way we live as much as the initial public accessible web did just over 10 years ago. Look a few more years into the future when brain implants and enhanced interface devices make access to decision making information and public opinion instantaneous, and you have arguably a perfect democracy: every voice informed, every voice heard, every vote counted." In the near future, "Cognitive implants are now ubiquitous, required in fact in order to survive as all life support mechanisms (sustenance, shelter, information access, transportation, etc.) respond only to the individual digital signatures implanted in our brains and speaking directly to our conscious and our subconscious." Its not a 'game', its going to happen! All who will not worship the first and second 'beast' will be eliminated, just as the prophet John foretold in Revelation. AC, I think you need to credit your quotes with a link. www.humansfuture.com |
nrg User ID: 989174 United States 12/13/2010 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesse Ventura exposed this on his show already....there you go doubters....now your left wing newspaper has admitted to it.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1163051If that Mk shit is real we should see Jessie running nekkid through the woods looking for the illusive forest gnomes and fairie kings soon. |