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~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~

 
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~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~
saw this last night, but dismissed it... had a lot going on. then I found this youtube video today, and remembered that I noticed it last night.

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Funny my girlfriend noticed it last night too. I haven't payed much attention to it during my life but wasn't the shadow on the moon always vertical it's horizontal now not perfectly but damn near. Is this just due to the tilt of the earth this time of the year?

Just wondering.
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i've been looking up for quite some time now, and never noticed such a tilt as I saw last night.
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They must have accidently turned the holographic machine upside down last night...:)
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Re: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~
It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.
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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.
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Can you give a link where this information can be found?
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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.


Can you give a link where this information can be found?
 Quoting: docandgail55

www.google.com would be a good place to start!!!
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Thanks for the explanation.

No Moon doom today.

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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.
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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.


Can you give a link where this information can be found?
 Quoting: docandgail55

No, I want to know where Astronut got his info. I know how to use google. VestanPance

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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.


Can you give a link where this information can be found?

No, I want to know where Astronut got his info.
 Quoting: docandgail55

15 years of experience in astronomy and 10 years of experience doing astrophotography. I'm planning on doing a video comparison time lapse of the moon with a polar mounted telescope and with an altitude-azimuth telescope. What you'll see is that the altitude-azimuth mounted telescope shows rotation while the polar mounted one does not. I was going to do that a couple weeks ago but ended up not having the time.

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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.


Can you give a link where this information can be found?

No, I want to know where Astronut got his info.

15 years of experience in astronomy and 10 years of experience doing astrophotography. I'm planning on doing a video comparison time lapse of the moon with a polar mounted telescope and with an altitude-azimuth telescope. What you'll see is that the altitude-azimuth mounted telescope shows rotation while the polar mounted one does not. I was going to do that a couple weeks ago but ended up not having the time.
 Quoting: Astronut

well, i have had 60 yrs of looking at the moon and in the past couple months i have noticed that the moon is lit on the bottom instead of the side like always, why is that?
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Re: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~
It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.


Can you give a link where this information can be found?

No, I want to know where Astronut got his info.

15 years of experience in astronomy and 10 years of experience doing astrophotography. I'm planning on doing a video comparison time lapse of the moon with a polar mounted telescope and with an altitude-azimuth telescope. What you'll see is that the altitude-azimuth mounted telescope shows rotation while the polar mounted one does not. I was going to do that a couple weeks ago but ended up not having the time.
 Quoting: Astronut

Since it's normal and you tell us you know what you are telling everyone, I thought you could provide a link with info. If not that, can you at least give a reference to a book. The old fashioned smart way. I want to know who else you claim says this is normal.

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[link to www.nmm.ac.uk]
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Re: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~
well, i have had 60 yrs of looking at the moon and in the past couple months i have noticed that the moon is lit on the bottom instead of the side like always, why is that?
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I don't think you have been paying attention. Have you ever wondered about the ancient folklore regarding the terms "wet moon" and "dry moon"?

Have a look:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Oh NO! Not this s**t again!

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Re: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~
It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.
 Quoting: Astronut



Thank you.....common sense is dead in America.
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well, i have had 60 yrs of looking at the moon and in the past couple months i have noticed that the moon is lit on the bottom instead of the side like always, why is that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1103170

No, the moon is not lit from the bottom side; the south pole of the moon still has the same permanently shadowed craters it's always had. Additionally, there are not newly-permanently-shadowed craters at the moon's north pole. The lighting angle is the same as its always been.
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You're apparently just unaware of how field rotation makes a setting waxing moon look from an altitude-azimuth point of view. Field rotation has ALWAYS impacted all non-polar aligned views.
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Oh NO! Not this s**t again!

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edit: Hey! My smiley is broken! waaaaa!

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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.
 Quoting: Astronut


Thank you Astronut!
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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.
 Quoting: Astronut



Hey AstroShill. Do you have SMS alerts setup to ping you whenever a thread with the word "MOON" in the title is started here on GLP? For someone who claims to be so intelligent you certainly have are diligent and have a lot of time to post?!!?
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Re: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~
Since it's normal and you tell us you know what you are telling everyone, I thought you could provide a link with info. If not that, can you at least give a reference to a book. The old fashioned smart way. I want to know who else you claim says this is normal.

Not Just Your Opinion. I want fact not some feel good Lie.
 Quoting: docandgail55

You asked me where I got my information specifically, not just some link. I told you the truth, now you accuse me of lying. I have to say it doesn't appear to me that you're really after the truth, but if you really want to know the truth here is some good information on what field rotation is and how it affects images:
[link to www.allaboutastro.com]
[link to www.stargazing.net]
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Re: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~
Funny my girlfriend noticed it last night too. I haven't payed much attention to it during my life but wasn't the shadow on the moon always vertical it's horizontal now not perfectly but damn near. Is this just due to the tilt of the earth this time of the year?

Just wondering.
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I've NEVER seen the moon "tilted" until last winter...looks totally strange sometimes, almost as you describe.
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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.



Hey AstroShill. Do you have SMS alerts setup to ping you whenever a thread with the word "MOON" in the title is started here on GLP? For someone who claims to be so intelligent you certainly have are diligent and have a lot of time to post?!!?
 Quoting: N(ever) A S(traight) A(nswer) 430031

That's it, kill the messenger. You are clearly to dumb to learn even the most basic of astronomy.
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Re: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~
Funny my girlfriend noticed it last night too. I haven't payed much attention to it during my life but wasn't the shadow on the moon always vertical it's horizontal now not perfectly but damn near. Is this just due to the tilt of the earth this time of the year?

Just wondering.


I've NEVER seen the moon "tilted" until last winter...looks totally strange sometimes, almost as you describe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910105

[link to www.stellarium.org]
Download it and learn how the waxing moon appears from an alt-az perspective as it rises, transits the meridian, and sets. Then compare it to the real sky.
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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.

Don't you get tired of posting this. chuckle
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Why should he get tired of posting hte truth? Do you get tired of posting bullshit?
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Since it's normal and you tell us you know what you are telling everyone, I thought you could provide a link with info. If not that, can you at least give a reference to a book. The old fashioned smart way. I want to know who else you claim says this is normal.

Not Just Your Opinion. I want fact not some feel good Lie.
 Quoting: docandgail55



A link? Seriously? You can't trust a guy who explains the geometry of it and will show you pictures and videos from his own observatory, but you WOULD trust a random web page somewhere?

Frack this kind of stupidity. You don't need to look it up online. You don't need to surf the web. You don't need to ask for links. You don't have to ask who wrote what and what their connections are to the Powers That Be and if they are Telling the Truth.


JUST GO FRICKING OUTSIDE AND WATCH THE MOON FOR A FEW HOURS!


Or, if your brain is functional, get a scrap of paper and a pencil and you can scribble out how the thing works yourself. It ain't hard.
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15 years from his backyard,.... as an amateur.
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I trust in Astronut. I think he knows his shit.
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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.



Hey AstroShill. Do you have SMS alerts setup to ping you whenever a thread with the word "MOON" in the title is started here on GLP? For someone who claims to be so intelligent you certainly have are diligent and have a lot of time to post?!!?
 Quoting: N(ever) A S(traight) A(nswer) 430031


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well, i have had 60 yrs of looking at the moon and in the past couple months i have noticed that the moon is lit on the bottom instead of the side like always, why is that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1103170


Do you not know that the lit portion is facing the sun? Where is the sun after it sets and a crescent moon is in the west?

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