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~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~

 
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Funny my girlfriend noticed it last night too. I haven't payed much attention to it during my life but wasn't the shadow on the moon always vertical it's horizontal now not perfectly but damn near. Is this just due to the tilt of the earth this time of the year?

Just wondering.


I've NEVER seen the moon "tilted" until last winter...looks totally strange sometimes, almost as you describe.

[link to www.stellarium.org]
Download it and learn how the waxing moon appears from an alt-az perspective as it rises, transits the meridian, and sets. Then compare it to the real sky.
 Quoting: Astronut


You don't understand: I've seen the moon clearly ever since childhood (I'm 44), and I live far up north where we have a "dark time" for 2 whole months. II KNOW how MY moon is supposed to be!!! So does my old mom - she sees the difference too..!

Stellarium - hah! - I do not trust anything developed by anyone named Gates..! Free software - why.?!.it must have been expencive to create and maintain..
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12/14/2010 04:21 PM
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Check the section on telescope mounts to understand why the moon, and everything else in the sky, appears to rotate as it crosses the sky...

[link to www.astronomyasylum.com]

It's called field rotation and is perfectly normal.
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12/14/2010 04:23 PM
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It's absolutely normal. Think about it. It actually rotates 90 degrees every 6 hours or so.
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Funny my girlfriend noticed it last night too. I haven't payed much attention to it during my life but wasn't the shadow on the moon always vertical it's horizontal now not perfectly but damn near. Is this just due to the tilt of the earth this time of the year?

Just wondering.


I've NEVER seen the moon "tilted" until last winter...looks totally strange sometimes, almost as you describe.

[link to www.stellarium.org]
Download it and learn how the waxing moon appears from an alt-az perspective as it rises, transits the meridian, and sets. Then compare it to the real sky.


You don't understand: I've seen the moon clearly ever since childhood (I'm 44), and I live far up north where we have a "dark time" for 2 whole months. II KNOW how MY moon is supposed to be!!! So does my old mom - she sees the difference too..!

Stellarium - hah! - I do not trust anything developed by anyone named Gates..! Free software - why.?!.it must have been expencive to create and maintain..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188



You don't HAVE to remain ignorant your whole life, you know.

How could the moon, or the constellations, NOT appear to ROTATE as the sphere we're standing on rotates?
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12/14/2010 04:30 PM
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Funny my girlfriend noticed it last night too. I haven't payed much attention to it during my life but wasn't the shadow on the moon always vertical it's horizontal now not perfectly but damn near. Is this just due to the tilt of the earth this time of the year?

Just wondering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1177629


Get a digital camera and zoom in. Most will not because knowing is not important to them. Takes pics often and at different times. I have and what you can see will blow you away....

Many will dismiss it, the glancers and the indoor on the computer observers have no clue what is really happening around the moon.

Don't take my word for it. Find out yourself if your interested.
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12/14/2010 04:31 PM
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Whatever you say - the moon does NOT look right..!
I see it, my mom sees it, and my 12 year old son noticed that patterns on the Moon have changed - they've moved.
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12/14/2010 04:34 PM
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Funny my girlfriend noticed it last night too. I haven't payed much attention to it during my life but wasn't the shadow on the moon always vertical it's horizontal now not perfectly but damn near. Is this just due to the tilt of the earth this time of the year?

Just wondering.


I've NEVER seen the moon "tilted" until last winter...looks totally strange sometimes, almost as you describe.

[link to www.stellarium.org]
Download it and learn how the waxing moon appears from an alt-az perspective as it rises, transits the meridian, and sets. Then compare it to the real sky.


You don't understand: I've seen the moon clearly ever since childhood (I'm 44), and I live far up north where we have a "dark time" for 2 whole months. II KNOW how MY moon is supposed to be!!! So does my old mom - she sees the difference too..!

Stellarium - hah! - I do not trust anything developed by anyone named Gates..! Free software - why.?!.it must have been expencive to create and maintain..
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Read and learn...

[link to starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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12/14/2010 04:36 PM
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Whatever you say - the moon does NOT look right..!
I see it, my mom sees it, and my 12 year old son noticed that patterns on the Moon have changed - they've moved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188



When the moon rises in the east, which direction is it's north pointing (which is essentially parallel to the earth's north)...over which of your shoulders? When it's high in the southern sky, which way is it's north pointing? Then, when it's in the west, which way is its north pointing...over which of your shoulders?

Answer these questions and you'll realize why you're wrong.
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12/14/2010 04:38 PM
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Whatever you say - the moon does NOT look right..!
I see it, my mom sees it, and my 12 year old son noticed that patterns on the Moon have changed - they've moved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188


Yes, and it's perfectly normal. The moon (and everything else in the sky) appears to rotate 360 degrees ever 24 hours. Over the course of 6 hours, everything appears to rotate approximately 90 degrees.

Haven't you ever seen time exposures of the northern sky at night showing the sky rotating?
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12/14/2010 04:43 PM
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I've NEVER seen the moon "tilted" until last winter...looks totally strange sometimes, almost as you describe.

[link to www.stellarium.org]
Download it and learn how the waxing moon appears from an alt-az perspective as it rises, transits the meridian, and sets. Then compare it to the real sky.


You don't understand: I've seen the moon clearly ever since childhood (I'm 44), and I live far up north where we have a "dark time" for 2 whole months. II KNOW how MY moon is supposed to be!!! So does my old mom - she sees the difference too..!

Stellarium - hah! - I do not trust anything developed by anyone named Gates..! Free software - why.?!.it must have been expencive to create and maintain..

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188


OK, the gig is up. Despite all of our efforts, you were able to uncover this gigantic moon conspiracy. We created bogus astronomical software and offered it for free, but that didn’t fool you. We’ve paid off and threatened tens of thousands of amateur and professional astronomers from across the globe to no avail. We’ve edited thousands of library and text books…we’ve changed vast amounts of information on the internet...we even created ancient folklore and still we were unable to fool you and your elderly mother. We bow to your intellect and unmatched observational skills…you have beaten us my friend.

The bad news is………………now we have to kill you. Sorry.
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Whatever you say - the moon does NOT look right..!
I see it, my mom sees it, and my 12 year old son noticed that patterns on the Moon have changed - they've moved.


Yes, and it's perfectly normal. The moon (and everything else in the sky) appears to rotate 360 degrees ever 24 hours. Over the course of 6 hours, everything appears to rotate approximately 90 degrees.

Haven't you ever seen time exposures of the northern sky at night showing the sky rotating?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991880


Getting tired of repeting: MY moon DOES NOT rotate or tilt - EVER!

I've seen it for more than 40 years - my mom for almost 80.

Let me tell you something: When we from "up north" go for vacation in the south - like Turkey - THEN we see a tilted Moon...but not at home..!
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12/14/2010 04:45 PM
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I've NEVER seen the moon "tilted" until last winter...looks totally strange sometimes, almost as you describe.

[link to www.stellarium.org]
Download it and learn how the waxing moon appears from an alt-az perspective as it rises, transits the meridian, and sets. Then compare it to the real sky.


You don't understand: I've seen the moon clearly ever since childhood (I'm 44), and I live far up north where we have a "dark time" for 2 whole months. II KNOW how MY moon is supposed to be!!! So does my old mom - she sees the difference too..!

Stellarium - hah! - I do not trust anything developed by anyone named Gates..! Free software - why.?!.it must have been expencive to create and maintain..



OK, the gig is up. Despite all of our efforts, you were able to uncover this gigantic moon conspiracy. We created bogus astronomical software and offered it for free, but that didn’t fool you. We’ve paid off and threatened tens of thousands of amateur and professional astronomers from across the globe to no avail. We’ve edited thousands of library and text books…we’ve changed vast amounts of information on the internet...we even created ancient folklore and still we were unable to fool you and your elderly mother. We bow to your intellect and unmatched observational skills…you have beaten us my friend.

The bad news is………………now we have to kill you. Sorry.
 Quoting: Setheory 869850


Whatever...
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You don't understand: I've seen the moon clearly ever since childhood (I'm 44), and I live far up north where we have a "dark time" for 2 whole months. II KNOW how MY moon is supposed to be!!! So does my old mom - she sees the difference too..!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188

Then you and your mom aren't too observant; the moon has always done that along with everything else in the sky.
Stellarium - hah! - I do not trust anything developed by anyone named Gates..! Free software - why.?!.it must have been expencive to create and maintain..
 Quoting: AC

LMFAO! Don't trust linux either, it must be a conspiracy. And Gates, just cause the guy's name is Gates doesn't mean he's related. And last but not least, it's open source! If you're claiming it's part of a conspiracy, then where is the conspiracy? Show me, it MUST be in the source code!
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I've NEVER seen the moon "tilted" until last winter...looks totally strange sometimes, almost as you describe.

[link to www.stellarium.org]
Download it and learn how the waxing moon appears from an alt-az perspective as it rises, transits the meridian, and sets. Then compare it to the real sky.


You don't understand: I've seen the moon clearly ever since childhood (I'm 44), and I live far up north where we have a "dark time" for 2 whole months. II KNOW how MY moon is supposed to be!!! So does my old mom - she sees the difference too..!

Stellarium - hah! - I do not trust anything developed by anyone named Gates..! Free software - why.?!.it must have been expencive to create and maintain..



OK, the gig is up. Despite all of our efforts, you were able to uncover this gigantic moon conspiracy. We created bogus astronomical software and offered it for free, but that didn’t fool you. We’ve paid off and threatened tens of thousands of amateur and professional astronomers from across the globe to no avail. We’ve edited thousands of library and text books…we’ve changed vast amounts of information on the internet...we even created ancient folklore and still we were unable to fool you and your elderly mother. We bow to your intellect and unmatched observational skills…you have beaten us my friend.

The bad news is………………now we have to kill you. Sorry.


Whatever...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188

LOL
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Re: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~
The moon isn't tilting 90 degrees in 8 hours.

[link to www.photographersdirect.com]

Check out the photos.

The earth is rotating. The same thing that makes the sun appear to rise and set causes this as well.

So lets say the moon was in the photo.

If the Crescent started out like this ) on the left side by the time it reached the right side it would look like (

Case closed.
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12/14/2010 04:53 PM
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Read and learn...

[link to astro.unl.edu]

[link to www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov]

[link to abyss.uoregon.edu]
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You don't understand: I've seen the moon clearly ever since childhood (I'm 44), and I live far up north where we have a "dark time" for 2 whole months. II KNOW how MY moon is supposed to be!!! So does my old mom - she sees the difference too..!

Then you and your mom aren't too observant; the moon has always done that along with everything else in the sky.
Stellarium - hah! - I do not trust anything developed by anyone named Gates..! Free software - why.?!.it must have been expencive to create and maintain..

LMFAO! Don't trust linux either, it must be a conspiracy. And Gates, just cause the guy's name is Gates doesn't mean he's related. And last but not least, it's open source! If you're claiming it's part of a conspiracy, then where is the conspiracy? Show me, it MUST be in the source code!
 Quoting: Astronut


No, it has NOT...not where we live.
We've seen the moon through the whole winter - we do not have sunlight for 2 months.

I trust my eyes and my experiences.

By the way: Nothing is for free...always a catch..! ;)
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12/14/2010 04:55 PM
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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.
 Quoting: Astronut







field rotation.........
you get this from some goverment website.
bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag
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Re: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~
The moon isn't tilting 90 degrees in 8 hours.

[link to www.photographersdirect.com]

Check out the photos.

The earth is rotating. The same thing that makes the sun appear to rise and set causes this as well.

So lets say the moon was in the photo.

If the Crescent started out like this ) on the left side by the time it reached the right side it would look like (

Case closed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1131863



It's always amazing to me how some people reach adulthood and have never noticed this before...and when they do, they are so arrogant as to claim that they alone have observed something that is "new"....when it is their own sheer ignorance of the sky that is being demonstrated.
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Is it possible different different regions of Earth see different moons?
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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.







field rotation.........
you get this from some goverment website.
bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag
 Quoting: spacemore


You don't HAVE to remain stupid, you know. Google "astrophotography" and learn all about field rotation and why polar mounts are required.
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Is it possible different different regions of Earth see different moons?
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Is this a real question?
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Here is an article describing how the moon appears to rotate as it crosses the sky...

[link to books.google.com]

and more about field rotation...

[link to calgary.rasc.ca]

[link to www.celestron.com]

[link to www.minoanatlantis.com]
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field rotation.........
you get this from some goverment website.
 Quoting: spacemore

I get this from 15 years experience in astronomy. Astrophotography has ALWAYS required accurate polar alignment to avoid field rotation. This is not something new, and it's not a conspiracy. This is astrophotography 101.
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Re: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~
No, it has NOT...not where we live.
We've seen the moon through the whole winter - we do not have sunlight for 2 months.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1179188

It may not be as noticeable, but unless you're standing on the north pole, field rotation will affect all alt-az based views.
By the way: Nothing is for free...always a catch..! ;)
 Quoting: AC

This is ridiculous; show me where it is. The source code is open and available. Where is the conspiracy?
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well, i have had 60 yrs of looking at the moon
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..and it's too far past the tree branch outside my Grandma's window.

I don't want to be rude and use a term like "AstroTard" but these threads are so predictable.
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12/14/2010 05:23 PM
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The total eclipse of the moon on the morning of the 21st will prove that it is exactly where it should be.
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I propose we give the Moon some rings...

If he had rings, perhaps nobody would come to waste time on such a B.S.
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12/14/2010 05:25 PM
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field rotation.........
you get this from some goverment website.
I get this from 15 years experience in astronomy. Astrophotography has ALWAYS required accurate polar alignment to avoid field rotation. This is not something new, and it's not a conspiracy. This is astrophotography 101.
 Quoting: Astronut


Nice difficult words...

How old are you?

I'm 44 and I've always looked up...
Living in a very rural place - no light pollution - no tv - we really saw the skies: The auroraes, the stars - and the Moon.

My Moon has NEVER tilted...until now...!
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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