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~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~

 
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Would that be the full moon on the same night as the eclipse? Because if it wasn't the night of the eclipse, it wasn't a full moon.
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If anything, I do worry at the apparent low quality of the education system that has produced so many gullible and misinformed people.
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And there you are right, the current generations have become so focused on technology that science at a basic level is completely missing, coupled with a lack of basic logic and presto they grow as gullible people without the ability to think for themselves.
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Would that be the full moon on the same night as the eclipse? Because if it wasn't the night of the eclipse, it wasn't a full moon.
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Yes, I'm talking about the night of the full moon/eclipse - late night of December 20 (I didn't stay up to watch the eclipse). The moon's shape was not entirely round.

My husband and I sometimes observe the moon when we are out and about and try to guess how close to a full moon. We have become quite good at estimating (oh it's another night or I think it's about two days away), then we check the calendar when we get home to see who was the most accurate. We've done this for years.

For the people who are trying to ridicule those of us who observe nature for its beauty and mystery and who trust what our eyes have observed over many years - stay with your formulas and science. I'm going to keep looking and enjoying the fascinating environment surrounding us.
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Yes, I'm talking about the night of the full moon/eclipse - late night of December 20 (I didn't stay up to watch the eclipse). The moon's shape was not entirely round.
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Looked round to me...
[link to farm6.static.flickr.com]
[link to www.ustream.tv]
For the people who are trying to ridicule those of us who observe nature for its beauty and mystery and who trust what our eyes have observed over many years - stay with your formulas and science. I'm going to keep looking and enjoying the fascinating environment surrounding us.
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So you're saying the images myself and many others recorded are unreliable? Why would that be?

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I don't know, Astronut - all I can say is that here in the northern latitudes, the moon has looked different this month, both the waxing and the full moon. Why you and others saw and photographed a perfectly round shape in other parts of the world, where we saw an oblong shape - I can't say. I guess we'll just have to see how it all unfolds over the rest of this month and in the months to come. The more people observing the night sky, the better. It's best to keep an open mind. We need more real (experienced eyes on the skys) data; not how things SHOULD be but what is actually being seen.
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I don't know, Astronut - all I can say is that here in the northern latitudes, the moon has looked different this month, both the waxing and the full moon. Why you and others saw and photographed a perfectly round shape in other parts of the world, where we saw an oblong shape - I can't say.
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Was the moon setting or rising? Differential atmospheric refraction will cause objects near the horizon to have a "squashed" appearance. It must not be a true problem with the moon's shape if others photographed a normal looking moon.

An example of this from Maine during the february 08 eclipse:
[link to www.flickr.com]
You can see by the moon's reflection on water how close it was to the horizon.

This image from New York was shot during this latest eclipse though and shows a normal looking moon:
[link to www.flickr.com]

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I don't know, Astronut - all I can say is that here in the northern latitudes, the moon has looked different this month, both the waxing and the full moon. Why you and others saw and photographed a perfectly round shape in other parts of the world, where we saw an oblong shape - I can't say.

Was the moon setting or rising? Differential atmospheric refraction will cause objects near the horizon to have a "squashed" appearance. It must not be a true problem with the moon's shape if others photographed a normal looking moon.


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We noticed the weird oblong shape many (probably five) hours after the moon rose. I concede that an unusual atmospheric phenomenon in this area could have caused the distorted shape, although it would be the first time we have ever noticed this occurring. That's why I asked the question - to see if others in different parts of the world saw a slightly distorted full moon this month. Individuals observing their familiar view of the moon from various locations on the Earth over time and recording and sharing anomalies is good data - right? If something truly odd is happening with the moon, wouldn't you like to know about it? We need to encourage, not discourage, "eyes on the sky".
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We noticed the weird oblong shape many (probably five) hours after the moon rose. I concede that an unusual atmospheric phenomenon in this area could have caused the distorted shape, although it would be the first time we have ever noticed this occurring. That's why I asked the question - to see if others in different parts of the world saw a slightly distorted full moon this month. Individuals observing their familiar view of the moon from various locations on the Earth over time and recording and sharing anomalies is good data - right? If something truly odd is happening with the moon, wouldn't you like to know about it? We need to encourage, not discourage, "eyes on the sky".
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Don't misunderstand me, I'm not trying to discourage eyes on the sky, I'm trying to discourage any conclusions in the absence of verifiable evidence. In fact we had about as many eyes on the moon that night as one can get. I'm hard pressed to find any "distorted" moon images from that night. I watched the moon rise that night hours before the eclipse began and saw the typical refraction-caused "squashed" distortion in its shape, but that went away as it rose.

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Well, it appears we experienced a local atmospheric condition - seeing a slightly oblong-shaped moon, high in the sky, on the night of the full moon - Dec. 20.

Let's see what comes next!! I know I'll be looking up more often this winter.
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Differential atmospheric refraction will cause objects near the horizon to have a "squashed" appearance.
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I,m 56 YEARS OLD AND HAVE WATCHED THE MOON ALL MY LIFE. YOU PEOPLE WHO SAY ITS NORMAL, U ARE CRAZY. I SAW IT TONIGHT WITH MY SON. NOT ONLY WAS THE CRESCENT OUT OF POSITION,IT MOVED POSITION 2 TIMES. IT GETS EVEN BETTER, We went inside the house for about 30 min,came back out and the moon was gone ,on a clear night,no where to be seen.I am speechless!!!!!!!!!
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I,m 56 YEARS OLD AND HAVE WATCHED THE MOON ALL MY LIFE. YOU PEOPLE WHO SAY ITS NORMAL, U ARE CRAZY. I SAW IT TONIGHT WITH MY SON. NOT ONLY WAS THE CRESCENT OUT OF POSITION,IT MOVED POSITION 2 TIMES. IT GETS EVEN BETTER, We went inside the house for about 30 min,came back out and the moon was gone ,on a clear night,no where to be seen.I am speechless!!!!!!!!!
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It set. Moran.
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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.


Can you give a link where this information can be found?
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No, I want to know where Astronut got his info. I know how to use google. VestanPance
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He gets his info from COMMON SENSE. Try it.

Not being mean but seriously, you want moon doom look more into the super full moon on March 19th ;)
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I,m 56 YEARS OLD AND HAVE WATCHED THE MOON ALL MY LIFE. YOU PEOPLE WHO SAY ITS NORMAL, U ARE CRAZY. I SAW IT TONIGHT WITH MY SON. NOT ONLY WAS THE CRESCENT OUT OF POSITION,IT MOVED POSITION 2 TIMES. IT GETS EVEN BETTER, We went inside the house for about 30 min,came back out and the moon was gone ,on a clear night,no where to be seen.I am speechless!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: kc moonshine 1287840


I saw the same thing..... The crescent before my eyes then I came back outside and it was GONE!\

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56 years of almost nightly sky watching,I live in a rural area.You ,think u know it all putas are wrong.......The b.s. is even different depending what pupe pot u smell.
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I notice that too since almost 2 years but on the recent 6 months, the moon tilt shadow phenomena is clear. For example, look @ this video [link to www.youtube.com]
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Funny my girlfriend noticed it last night too. I haven't payed much attention to it during my life but wasn't the shadow on the moon always vertical it's horizontal now not perfectly but damn near. Is this just due to the tilt of the earth this time of the year?

Just wondering.


I've NEVER seen the moon "tilted" until last winter...looks totally strange sometimes, almost as you describe.

[link to www.stellarium.org]
Download it and learn how the waxing moon appears from an alt-az perspective as it rises, transits the meridian, and sets. Then compare it to the real sky.
 Quoting: Astronut


You don't understand: I've seen the moon clearly ever since childhood (I'm 44), and I live far up north where we have a "dark time" for 2 whole months. II KNOW how MY moon is supposed to be!!! So does my old mom - she sees the difference too..!

Stellarium - hah! - I do not trust anything developed by anyone named Gates..! Free software - why.?!.it must have been expencive to create and maintain..

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I agree with you brother, there are the same (shills or ignorants? you decide) saying the same stupid things such 'field rotation' that mean nothing and obviously, you never find this ***** on books too. The moon behaviors (earth at this point) on nothern emisphere such as Europe, USA, Canada etc, is not how it should be at the moment since almost 2008. And yes, imho, Stellarium is free disinfos as well.

They must have accidently turned the holographic machine upside down last night...:)
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Funny but, that's it...

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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.
 Quoting: Astronut


IT IS MOST DEFINITELY NOT NORMAL!
I think the Earth is wobbling like crazy which would account for our crazy weather....hot one day cold the next .....,last night the crickets were singing in the trees IN NEBRASKA!
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Forget your wrong brainwashed 'knowledge' of crescent moon which someone still believe it should be horizontal and look at this: Thread: Look at the moon, upside down again

and this: [link to www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk]

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It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets.
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at easy astro, I'm sure this one's just routine

lol

as if
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The Moon tilts because (took me a while to figure this out), If you have a chance to see the moon in the day and watch it as the day goes on an cross the sky you will see it slowly starting to tilt, and as it does the shawdow/light on the moon starts to change, it will start to tilt, as your day grows longer the sun starts to drop (of course) and as it does the shadow/light follows, so as the sun and moon move it will seem to tilt over time, (i notice to the right). The shadow/light is moving with its own position and sun's position. :)
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The moon has looked very strange lately agreed. its crazy. it is half full from top to bottom. and casts the different bring reflections around it. scary stff. the whole sky looks different, and there are streaks in it sometimes. i dont know. i dont think its good
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this is not how the moon has been looking. this would be fine. we are talking about full on, half moon, but instead of being on its side, vertically, its completely horizontal, the bottom half of a full moon. this is not normal
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this is not how the moon has been looking. this would be fine. we are talking about full on, half moon, but instead of being on its side, vertically, its completely horizontal, the bottom half of a full moon. this is not normal
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Maybe the USA should not have nuked the moon.
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Did you see the Pictures from San Diego. Proves your theory even more. bump
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