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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1196061 Norway 12/15/2010 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Jupiter loses one of its stripes and scientists have no idea why [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Sun's strange behavior baffles astronomers [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Every scientist and astronomer on the planet dont know anything and are baffled, except Astronut! We on GLP should be lucky that we have him! But to be honest, its not fair the truth is limited to GLP braindead visitors only.. (dont get offended now morans, i mean no harm). You Astronut should start work for NASA. They need you! And with your knowledge you will get employed instantly. Just tell them what it is going on in space. Its your time now - let the world know the truth! Not only us at GLP! |
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Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 12/15/2010 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scientists baffled by changes in Saturn’s rings Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1196061[link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Jupiter loses one of its stripes and scientists have no idea why [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Sun's strange behavior baffles astronomers [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Every scientist and astronomer on the planet dont know anything and are baffled, except Astronut! We on GLP should be lucky that we have him! Change horses much? What does any of this have to do with the moon tilting oddly? I never claimed there were no mysteries in space, there are plenty, but that doesn't mean that this is one of them. You apparently play in a world where scientists either know nothing and are baffled by everything, or they know everything and there are no mysteries. That's not the real world though; you don't have to know everything to know some things, and I don't have to know why Jupiter temporarily loses its southern equatorial cloud band to know that the earth has not been moved out of its orbit or that the moon has not been tilted strangely. Last Edited by Astromut on 12/15/2010 10:51 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 991880 United States 12/15/2010 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every scientist and astronomer on the planet dont know anything and are baffled Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1196061Well, thats not entirely correct.. MOST of them all agree that there is a man made global warming going on and that we need to pay a global tax. I'll disagree with that. There is a HUGE contingent that disagrees with the vocal few that have pushed the idea of global warming. |
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Commutator User ID: 904552 United States 12/15/2010 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree definitely not normal, what we are seeing with moon and sun. Quoting: Himbe Uhuru 7 1193135Big question for the "field rotation" supporters.... Would "field rotation" explain why I have seen what appears to be a star in the sky at appearing about 4:58 pm est time today next to the moon in maryland? Or am I just seeing jupiter next to the moon, in the DAYTIME sky, with the naked eye? Also why are the various radar maps available to us on the web out of sync with GOV weather radar sites? Could that be field rotation as well? Don't let them fool ya, or even try to rule ya Your observation doesn't make sense. The latest sunset for any part of Maryland on 12/14/2010 was 4:59 in the Monongahela National Forest. The earliest sunset was 4:40 near Elkton and Ocean City. So your observation was made after sunset or right at sunset when the Sun was hidden behind mountains. You did not see anything during DAYTIME. Last Edited by Commutator on 12/15/2010 08:30 PM No fairer destiny could be allotted to any physical theory, than that it should of itself point out the way to the introduction of a more comprehensive theory, in which it lives on as a limiting case. - Albert Einstein |
Commutator User ID: 904552 United States 12/15/2010 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scientists baffled by changes in Saturn’s rings Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1196061[link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Jupiter loses one of its stripes and scientists have no idea why [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Sun's strange behavior baffles astronomers [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Every scientist and astronomer on the planet dont know anything and are baffled, except Astronut! We on GLP should be lucky that we have him! But to be honest, its not fair the truth is limited to GLP braindead visitors only.. (dont get offended now morans, i mean no harm). You Astronut should start work for NASA. They need you! And with your knowledge you will get employed instantly. Just tell them what it is going on in space. Its your time now - let the world know the truth! Not only us at GLP! Your statement is a fallacy. Just because there are some things we do not understand it does not mean we understand nothing. Field rotation is one of those well understood phenomenon. Here is a paper from 1900 describing field rotation [link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu] Field rotation can also be used as a method to align an equatorial mount to true north. A properly aligned mount will exhibit field rotation while a properly aligned mount will not. You observe the stars in your telescope and watch for north-south motion. It is referred to as the drift method. [link to celestialwonders.com] [link to www.astrosurf.com] No fairer destiny could be allotted to any physical theory, than that it should of itself point out the way to the introduction of a more comprehensive theory, in which it lives on as a limiting case. - Albert Einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 899893 United States 12/15/2010 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For once , once, FORGET the telescope and field rotation logic etc... ISNT the VIDEO in YOUTUBE showing the TILT in plain sight ? Damn, I did see it with my eyes and told my friend 1 one day. Again forget the telescope you can see the tilt even with naked eye. U dont have to ZOOM to see the tilt of such a BIG Object in the sky in DARK BLACK. does it ? |
Commutator User ID: 904552 United States 12/15/2010 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me be the first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 899893For once , once, FORGET the telescope and field rotation logic etc... ISNT the VIDEO in YOUTUBE showing the TILT in plain sight ? Damn, I did see it with my eyes and told my friend 1 one day. Again forget the telescope you can see the tilt even with naked eye. U dont have to ZOOM to see the tilt of such a BIG Object in the sky in DARK BLACK. does it ? But the video is showing field rotation so you can't forget it. The tilt is only an apparent tilt, something seen by the observer. The camera is always oriented with respect to the horizon. When looking at a first quarter moonrise the moon rises with the bright half up and the dark half toward the horizon - toward the east. Now look at the Moon when it is highest in the sky - toward the south. The bright half is on the right and the dark half is in the left. At moonset the bright half is toward the horizon an the dark side points up - toward the west. The first image is an upside down U. The second looks like a D. The last looks like a rightside U. The Moon appears to have gone through a rotation. That is field rotation. No fairer destiny could be allotted to any physical theory, than that it should of itself point out the way to the introduction of a more comprehensive theory, in which it lives on as a limiting case. - Albert Einstein |
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Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 12/16/2010 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me be the first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 899893For once , once, FORGET the telescope and field rotation logic etc... Why should I? Field rotation explains it. ISNT the VIDEO in YOUTUBE showing the TILT in plain sight ? Quoting: ACDamn, I did see it with my eyes and told my friend 1 one day. Again forget the telescope you can see the tilt even with naked eye. U dont have to ZOOM to see the tilt of such a BIG Object in the sky in DARK BLACK. does it ? Ugh, epic fail dude. It's not about the telescope's magnification, it's about the mount. Hell, you could put a standard point and shoot camera on a polar aligned equatorial mount and still prove that there is no tilt, it's just field rotation, you just wouldn't get as much resolution. Any view of the moon, with a telescope or not, that is based on looking at the moon in an altitude-azimuth way instead of tracking with the motion of the earth along a single axis parallel to the earth's rotational axis will show field rotation. It's that simple. |
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Hickory User ID: 974021 United States 12/16/2010 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every scientist and astronomer on the planet dont know anything and are baffled, except Astronut! We on GLP should be lucky that we have him! Quoting: DrPostmanYou're an idiot AND an asshole. I love it. You have one life. Live it. You have one voice, use it. You have one :Hickory-1: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1158410 United States 12/16/2010 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's called field rotation, and yes, it's normal and expected. This is why you have to polar mount a telescope to do long exposure photography; viewing objects in an altitude-azimuth way shows field rotation. You can see this in constellations too; Orion looks like he's resting on his right side (our left) as he rises and he looks like he's resting on his left side (our right) as he sets. Quoting: Astronutthank god u posted in this. i see these threads all the time about the moon doing NATURAL things- and people dont think its natural cuz they just started watching it. lmaaooo only GLP... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 899893 United States 12/16/2010 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me be the first. Quoting: AstronutFor once , once, FORGET the telescope and field rotation logic etc... Why should I? Field rotation explains it. ISNT the VIDEO in YOUTUBE showing the TILT in plain sight ? Damn, I did see it with my eyes and told my friend 1 one day. Again forget the telescope you can see the tilt even with naked eye. U dont have to ZOOM to see the tilt of such a BIG Object in the sky in DARK BLACK. does it ? Ugh, epic fail dude. It's not about the telescope's magnification, it's about the mount. Hell, you could put a standard point and shoot camera on a polar aligned equatorial mount and still prove that there is no tilt, it's just field rotation, you just wouldn't get as much resolution. Any view of the moon, with a telescope or not, that is based on looking at the moon in an altitude-azimuth way instead of tracking with the motion of the earth along a single axis parallel to the earth's rotational axis will show field rotation. It's that simple. Ok Mr.NASA. Explain this- If ur rotation logic is true did this TILT ever occur in the past and how come there is NO record of this tilt and where its so NOTICEABLE to MANY people. |
Himbe Uhuru 7 User ID: 1193135 United States 12/16/2010 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree definitely not normal, what we are seeing with moon and sun. Quoting: CommutatorBig question for the "field rotation" supporters.... Would "field rotation" explain why I have seen what appears to be a star in the sky at appearing about 4:58 pm est time today next to the moon in maryland? Or am I just seeing jupiter next to the moon, in the DAYTIME sky, with the naked eye? Also why are the various radar maps available to us on the web out of sync with GOV weather radar sites? Could that be field rotation as well? Don't let them fool ya, or even try to rule ya Your observation doesn't make sense. The latest sunset for any part of Maryland on 12/14/2010 was 4:59 in the Monongahela National Forest. The earliest sunset was 4:40 near Elkton and Ocean City. So your observation was made after sunset or right at sunset when the Sun was hidden behind mountains. You did not see anything during DAYTIME. he who prescribes the diameter of your knowledge also prescribes the circumference of your actions Many thanks for correcting for me what MY EYES have seen. I suppose I am not seeing rampant tree death everywhere either? It might as well be "Tree Leave Rotation" Also no chance of me seeing chemtrails attempting to conceal and mask the sunset either. No such thing as chemtrails, they are simply a normal event also known as "jet fuel rotation" many thanks for correcting the error in my vision, and thinking |
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Commutator User ID: 904552 United States 12/16/2010 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many thanks for correcting for me what MY EYES have seen. I suppose I am not seeing rampant tree death everywhere either? Quoting: Himbe Uhuru 7 1193135It might as well be "Tree Leave Rotation" Also no chance of me seeing chemtrails attempting to conceal and mask the sunset either. No such thing as chemtrails, they are simply a normal event also known as "jet fuel rotation" many thanks for correcting the error in my vision, and thinking You are the one who went to the effort to say it was daytime and 4:58 PM on 12/14. Those two statements are mutually exclusive. Correct something. No fairer destiny could be allotted to any physical theory, than that it should of itself point out the way to the introduction of a more comprehensive theory, in which it lives on as a limiting case. - Albert Einstein |
Hickory User ID: 974021 United States 12/17/2010 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if this link as been posted on this thread. [link to en.wikipedia.org] I'm not quite sure why I'm bothering. You have one life. Live it. You have one voice, use it. You have one :Hickory-1: |
Hickory User ID: 974021 United States 12/17/2010 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many thanks for correcting for me what MY EYES have seen. I suppose I am not seeing rampant tree death everywhere either? Quoting: Himbe Uhuru 7 1193135It might as well be "Tree Leave Rotation" Also no chance of me seeing chemtrails attempting to conceal and mask the sunset either. No such thing as chemtrails, they are simply a normal event also known as "jet fuel rotation" many thanks for correcting the error in my vision, and thinking What in the world as the moons dry and wet moon have to do with the above things. Dying trees......Have the soil checked. Chemtrails concealing the sunset......I can't even begin with this one. You have one life. Live it. You have one voice, use it. You have one :Hickory-1: |
Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 12/17/2010 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok Mr.NASA. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 899893Explain this- If ur rotation logic is true did this TILT ever occur in the past and how come there is NO record of this tilt and where its so NOTICEABLE to MANY people. It's been around forever. The term "wet moon" wasn't invented yesterday. Field rotation as a problem for astronomy has been around since the dawn of astrophotography: [link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu] |
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Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 12/17/2010 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a good article explaining field rotation and its affect on the moon's appearance in simple terms: [link to www.celestron.com] |
czygyny User ID: 418932 United States 12/19/2010 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had to deal with some of these people on PalTalk last night. They declare 'It's on YouTube!' 'It's on YouTube!' 'It's on YouTube!', like YouTube is some authority on the matter...anyone can video something, cleverly edit it and make up any story about a subject. If you don't take time to learn what is normal you will not be able to correctly discern the abnormal and will be DECEIVED. There is real doom enough without falling for the uninformed or even downright purposeful deceptions. Kletos, Eklektos & Pistos |
saros136 User ID: 1143326 United States 12/20/2010 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Moon was predicted to rotate about 90 degrees in that time. Here is a screenshot from Skyview Cafe for 2:32 p.m. [link to picasaweb.google.com] The next picture is for 10:39 p.m., the other time mentioned in the video. |