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The World Trade Center - Fake Smoke Piping & Delivery System

 
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Copernica I have this feeling that you are teh ""I can pull out the "there was at least...one..doorknob in the rubble". card" type of human. you win. but what is being examined is the lack of certain items as to say the WTC 1&2 were just masonic pillars of worship in and for of is the audaciousness of the J-Chum & Boaz Show. All for show.

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astroturf. look it up.

a fake grassroots movement.


op has been outed as a bonified shill.
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Fuck off idiot, you havent even looked at any of this you just regurgitate the words of Alex Jones . You lump this in with the 'zomg lazor beams!!!!1' people who are the true disinfo agents.

Have a fucking read of it, the empty building theory is plausible, the whole fakery of the thing is easy to grasp.
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Basically, it was the guy at the landfill where all the stuff was taken who said there was none of that stuff.

The guy at Fresh kills says there were none of those things, but what would he know.

Otherwise, your citations are kinda like asking the criminal if he's guilty, then acting on his testimony alone.

Of course their fake families say those things. Of course official sources say them.

You might as well believe the official lie, for that matter.
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They guy at the land kill. LINKY or you stinky. bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag
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Basically, it was the guy at the landfill where all the stuff was taken who said there was none of that stuff.

The guy at Fresh kills says there were none of those things, but what would he know.

Otherwise, your citations are kinda like asking the criminal if he's guilty, then acting on his testimony alone.

Of course their fake families say those things. Of course official sources say them.

You might as well believe the official lie, for that matter.


They guy at the land kill. LINKY or you stinky.
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In the first video at the 11:50 mark onward is where one of the fresh kills guys tells of no doors, and not a single door knob being found; The entire video is well worth the watch. As well as the other one below it;







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i just love the obvious confusion here.. wow.. their blueprints really do produce results
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bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsmeter2 propoganda stfu siren2 shill
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Copernica I have this feeling that you are teh ""I can pull out the "there was at least...one..doorknob in the rubble". card" type of human. you win. but what is being examined is the lack of certain items as to say the WTC 1&2 were just masonic pillars of worship in and for of is the audaciousness of the J-Chum & Boaz Show. All for show.

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On occasion I'd play that card...but really, I'm just tired of people making blanket statements and jumping to conclusions without the facts to back them up.

For this thread - maybe they were faking the smoke...but I haven't seen it proven. I've seen pictures that are inconclusive. I look at the same pictures and see alternate, more logical, theories of what they may be showing. I provided evidence that the "pipes" in question were there for a long time. I provided the theory that they may be part of the ventilation system and are indeed pumping out smoke - but it's not "fake" smoke, it's real smoke from the inside. As far as I can see it - none of us can prove our theories. So the answer is - we don't know and it's an interesting find and at some later date, the truth may reveal itself.

For the doorknobs and doors - I wasn't there...maybe it's true that there weren't any. But my logical brain that witnessed the event and watched the initial interviews before the spin monsters got to it all - says it's not even a plausible concept. One guy saying he didn't see any (and I haven't seen that part of the video yet) is not enough proof of anything. How much rubble did he sift through? Was he sifting through the raw rubble or the already sifted through once rubble? Maybe they'd already pulled the doorknobs out of that section? Thousands of people were involved in the cleaning up and the sifting - if there were no doorknobs, doors, office furniture, etc - I think they'd have been all over the news with that right away. But heck, 9 years on and they're still trying to explain a) how jet fuel caused a collapse and b) how was so much literally pulverized.

There's enough "legitimate" conspiracy all around 9/11 without fabricating any or making issues out of non-issues. 9/11 truth group are having a hard enough time being taken seriously without the distraction of doorknob scandals and fake smoke theories.

I'm a total 9/11 truther - I know the entire thing was staged. But I'm not going to jump on this particular bandwagon.
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Like I said, the 911 truth movement is a joke.

You mention Gage, he is working very hard to get a "new investigation".

So he'll spend 5 years to get this investigation, which of course will again consist of the perps investigating themselves.

Thats a joke.



Just more ways to keep you from seeing what's right before your eyes.

911 was a hoax, an elaborate intelligence produced tv extravaganza, a 4 month infomercial.
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Like I said, the 911 truth movement is a joke.

You mention Gage, he is working very hard to get a "new investigation".

So he'll spend 5 years to get this investigation, which of course will again consist of the perps investigating themselves.

Thats a joke.



Just more ways to keep you from seeing what's right before your eyes.

911 was a hoax, an elaborate intelligence produced tv extravaganza, a 4 month infomercial.
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Yes, a very large elaborate televised hoax. If anyone has any doubts at all, let them ask themselves this question;

Where did all 240 acres of carpeting disappear to? And why wasn't it in the debris pile?

[link to letsrollforums.com]

Carpeting just doesn't disappear. And we can tell from the video it wasn't the carpeting burning in the pile, as that would be a thick, dark black toxic cloud that none could even work near.

And what are these pipes on the outside of the world trade center all along the 94th floor?

[link to letsrollforums.com]

And why are they belching out thick black smoke? And why is the fireline/smokeline only above this piping contraption on the exterior of the 94th floor?


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I always wondered how that black line was perfectly straight, while the fire was here and there.

That always looked wierd to me.
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I always wondered how that black line was perfectly straight, while the fire was here and there.

That always looked wierd to me.
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bump



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those things are lined up perfectly, each exactly the same, one for each window.

They stick out from the window below!

Never saw this anywhere before.
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those things are lined up perfectly, each exactly the same, one for each window.

They stick out from the window below!

Never saw this anywhere before.
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bump wtf
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Thanks for the post Josie Wales, you have forced me to look at 911 in a totally different way.

They fooled the shit out of all of us.

I was reading about the actors for witnesses, and actors for family members, amd actors for "survivors" like George Sleigh. That dude tells a really tall tale. Claims he could see people in the cockpit of a plane at close range going 700mph.

What a liar.

This is all too wild, but makes perfect sense.
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COINTELPRO works hard on confusing the issues of 911. Dont be fooled by the bullshit like a fake smoke piping delivery system. This BS is designed to make truthers look stupid just like the hologram aircraft theory.
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COINTELPRO works hard on confusing the issues of 911. Dont be fooled by the bullshit like a fake smoke piping delivery system. This BS is designed to make truthers look stupid just like the hologram aircraft theory.
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Whats Cointelpro about this? There is 200 plus feet of exterior piping on the outside of the 94th floor and it is belching out smoke; Deal with the facts and the picture.

[link to letsrollforums.com]

You might want to argue about what it is, but not that it is there, nor the fact that it is blowing out back smoke, to the right of nearly every pipe in the picture; And is also creating the fire/smoke line.

And if you go to this page and scroll down, and read and look through the pictures, you will see there is actually people allegedly trapped inside the world trade center that are using, placing portable smoke pipes.wands;

[link to letsrollforums.com]

Go there and scroll down; Take your time and go through the video; The guy with the portable smoke pipe, wand is in the lower, side right of the video; And places his smoke device on an exterior column where there is already another such device blowing fake white smoke as well.


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The only way you could fail to see them is if you're afraid to go look.

They're there, get used to it. And the implications are far reaching. I've been thinking since the OP, and it explains so much.

It's hard for some to believe their Government officials would commit mass murder.

Every one knows they will participate in a SCAM.
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The only way you could fail to see them is if you're afraid to go look.

They're there, get used to it. And the implications are far reaching. I've been thinking since the OP, and it explains so much.

It's hard for some to believe their Government officials would commit mass murder.

Every one knows they will participate in a SCAM.
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A lot of people are afraid to look at evidence and make up their own minds without anyones help.

But this evidence becomes self evident after only a short while for most people. The amount of evidence for this is overwhelming, and there aren't any good arguments against any of it;

People can reject this material, they can choose to not like it because it doesn't fit their paradigm, but they cannot debunk it, because it is true.


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These smoke machines led me to a link there about the companies involved.

The Companies that had most of the casualties (Aon, Marsh,Cantor, etc.,) all had close ties to the CIA and Defense Dept.. Who better to use to falsify victims and records.

I also never knew that the BUSINESSES in the WTC collected 42 Billion in compensation for the attack.

Thats a lot of cooperation, 42 Billion.
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Copernica I have this feeling that you are teh ""I can pull out the "there was at least...one..doorknob in the rubble". card" type of human. you win. but what is being examined is the lack of certain items as to say the WTC 1&2 were just masonic pillars of worship in and for of is the audaciousness of the J-Chum & Boaz Show. All for show.

seal


On occasion I'd play that card...but really, I'm just tired of people making blanket statements and jumping to conclusions without the facts to back them up.

For this thread - maybe they were faking the smoke...but I haven't seen it proven. I've seen pictures that are inconclusive. I look at the same pictures and see alternate, more logical, theories of what they may be showing. I provided evidence that the "pipes" in question were there for a long time. I provided the theory that they may be part of the ventilation system and are indeed pumping out smoke - but it's not "fake" smoke, it's real smoke from the inside. As far as I can see it - none of us can prove our theories. So the answer is - we don't know and it's an interesting find and at some later date, the truth may reveal itself.

For the doorknobs and doors - I wasn't there...maybe it's true that there weren't any. But my logical brain that witnessed the event and watched the initial interviews before the spin monsters got to it all - says it's not even a plausible concept. One guy saying he didn't see any (and I haven't seen that part of the video yet) is not enough proof of anything. How much rubble did he sift through? Was he sifting through the raw rubble or the already sifted through once rubble? Maybe they'd already pulled the doorknobs out of that section? Thousands of people were involved in the cleaning up and the sifting - if there were no doorknobs, doors, office furniture, etc - I think they'd have been all over the news with that right away. But heck, 9 years on and they're still trying to explain a) how jet fuel caused a collapse and b) how was so much literally pulverized.

There's enough "legitimate" conspiracy all around 9/11 without fabricating any or making issues out of non-issues. 9/11 truth group are having a hard enough time being taken seriously without the distraction of doorknob scandals and fake smoke theories.

I'm a total 9/11 truther - I know the entire thing was staged. But I'm not going to jump on this particular bandwagon.
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I understand that this material is far different then has been accepted by the masses. But ask yourself this, if you think this is too crazy to believe, yet believe 911 was an inside job.

1. The accepted belief is that Rudi Guliani, George Bush, Larry Silverstein and many others we know by face and by name, are cold blooded mass murderers who ruthlessly killed 3000 fellow Americans for a few bucks and some governing power.

While I maintain it would be far easier to manufacture the list of victims, rather then murder them in cold blood. We were not there at cleanup, but others were, and they all say the say thing; Not a chair, not a desk, not a computer, moue, keyboard, telephone. Not a single door knowb, while the Stephanopolous broadcast tells us of 1200 "missing feet" of material in the twin towers, that which was missing from the debris pile,...






Now perhaps it is easier for people to believe that the entire contents are missing because of mini nukes or directed energy weapons, but something tells me the total, 100% lack of these items tells us that they were never there to begin with.

Thus perhaps it might be easier now to see and understand why there are fake smoke machines blowing out fake hollywood like special effects smoke at the WTC on 9/11.

[link to letsrollforums.com]


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These smoke machines led me to a link there about the companies involved.

The Companies that had most of the casualties (Aon, Marsh,Cantor, etc.,) all had close ties to the CIA and Defense Dept.. Who better to use to falsify victims and records.

I also never knew that the BUSINESSES in the WTC collected 42 Billion in compensation for the attack.

Thats a lot of cooperation, 42 Billion.
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Ya, there was a 7 Billion dollar Victims Compensation Fund, (VCF) and a 38.5 Billion dollar Business Compensation Fund. (BCF)

45.5 Billion dollars between these two funds alone. Here is a link to the Research Directory where you can find nearly all of the research links on new material, separated by category;

9/11 LINKS Directory - Victim Fraud, Media Fraud, WTC Fraud: [link to letsrollforums.com]

And the spoils didn't stop with that. There were people and corporations that had purchased shares of Afghanistan gas and oil as well as Iraq gas and oil knowing the old contracts would soon be void; This accounts for roughly 26 TRILLION dollars alone over the next 15 years.

Now THATS a lotta money! And yet, theres still far more then that, as 911 was a crime of opportunity for everyone everywhere!


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This whole line of thinking- deception, staged & fake (literally) everything makes perfect sense if one has the guts to take a step back and decipher the information.

You fools who call the OP a shill and disinfo will never come close to understanding what really happened.
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This whole line of thinking- deception, staged & fake (literally) everything makes perfect sense if one has the guts to take a step back and decipher the information.

You fools who call the OP a shill and disinfo will never come close to understanding what really happened.
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Why was there not one single chair in the 911 debris pile?

Answer: Because it was never there to begin with.

Why was there no desks, computers or phones? Or even pieces of them found?

Answer: Because they were never there to begin with.

Why was 240 acres of carpeting missing from the 911 debris pile?

Answer: Because it was never there to begin with.


Things don't disintegrate simply because a few heavy beams smash into them. Maybe in Flash Gordon movies and Star Trek, but not here on earth where real physics apply.

What is nice about these pictures of the smoke pipes on the exterior of the WTC is that they are obvious, cannot be denied, and are NOT part of the normal structure.

Oh, and they are belching out black smoke from the right side on nearly every one of them.

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What about those indestructable little rubbermaid type garbage cans you see under every desk.


If you believe it was a demolition, which it was, then you'd have to believe those little garbage cans would be shot out everywhere.

The only way they wouldn't be is if they're not there.
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Dont forget the planes were a CGI hologram gotbop
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There is no evidence of a hologram, but plenty of evidence that proves video fakery.

People trying to confuse the issue always go to the ridiculous holograms. Manhattan is urban canyons, most places you can't see anything other than the street you're on.

When people saw the magic trick of the fireball, they would be plenty fooled.

No hologram necessary, just a million reruns of fake video.


The fake smoke pipes dont look like a fucking hologram to me.
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The 911 event was 100% DECEPTION
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Josey Wales and Shawn Cassidy are fags.
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I think the idea that the two WTC twin towers were built mainly as empty masonic pillars is interesting.

The twin towers were like obelisks or phallic symbols, so the planners would have planned the emasculation ritual in advance, knowing that the removal of the towers would be symbolic of the destruction of America's economic power, with impotent, decadent and ineffectual leaders responsible for letting American defenses down.
Anyone can remember back to September 11, 2001 and try to recall what was going through their own mind at the time.
I remember thinking how strange it was that the Pentagon could have been attacked, and how the image of powerful America suddenly was gone.

The globalists would want it gone. They don't really want an AMerican empire , after all. WHat they want is an emasculated and gutted America to be folded into the lower strata of a far larger and far more powerful global empire.

In attacking the PEntagon, were the globalists trying to send the message to the American establishment that no one is untouchable and that there is no power capable of opposing them?

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