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Whynchashudub User ID: 1194844 Canada 12/14/2010 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stick with provable FACTS. Idiot. Look at the building VAPORISE itself. Look at the Larry Silverstien ownership timeline and insurence scam. Look at bush and binlauden. Look at prodject for a new american century. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 830513Smoke machine bloke machine. You need to stop parroting Alex Jones thinking evertyone is out to steal your thunder, this shit looks plausible. It is worthy of investigation, so lets keep an open mind ok? Now shut up and help us solve this riddle I agree its plausible that the WTC towers were gutted and empty prior to being dropped vertically by thermite and explosives in a controlled demolition. There was almost no debris pile from purportedly 110 full floors of offices. Where did everything go? Any demolitions worker will tell you that all controlled demolitions are prepped in advance by gutting the building. That means removal of all interior walls, ceilings, all piping, wiring etc. If buildings are not gutted prior to being dropped vertically by explosives and thermite, they do not fall uniformly, and always topple sideways. This is because things like interior walls create an unbalanced load structure and lend too much structural strength. It is standard procedure to remove all piping and wiring and ductwork etc. in advance, for salvage and scrap metal. This explains why the debris pile for the WTC was tiny and missing all of these things. the WTC was set up as a giant fake disaster. I would not be surprised to find that indeed there was fake smoke , faked jumpers etc. When you think about it, the intelligence community who pulled off the fake 9-11 attack on NY would want to minimize loss of life in pulling this illusion, and minimize their culpability, so this fits with the idea that they used empty radio controlled jets and gutted the towers prior to the event. [link to letsrollforums.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1194852 United States 12/14/2010 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree 100% that 911 was perpetrated by the US government and military, but these videos are just showing people about to die, trapped in the WTC towers after the US government orchestrated the attack. I imagine this is an attempt at trying to anger people and make attempts at exposing the blatent truth that the towers were indeed destroyed by US operatives seem foolish, because "smoke pipes"...well...that's stupid as shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1193148Okay shill, way to write right from the script. "I agree 100% that 911 was perpetrated by the US government and military..." I would say that very few people think that our dumbass government could pull this off. And the military has little interest. But companies like Blackwater had everything to gain. Prince is a born again, so he'd like to see America changed for his beliefs, they made 100s of millions post 911, have strict followers, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1192776 Canada 12/14/2010 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The second so called smoke pipe is a man's arm wearing a suit. Quoting: Josey WalesNo, that is incorrect; You can tell it's a smoke pipe/wand that he is placing on the outside of the building because it is blowing out smoke. Fairly simple stuff... Scroll down to post 88: [link to letsrollforums.com] Josey Wales -- Its a man in a suit holding onto the outside beam. His body is facing towards the building and right in the way of the smoke pouring out of the building. All the other of the so called smoke pipes are probably people trying to use a rolled up piece of carpet that goes under desk chairs to make a snorkel to breath with, to get to fresh air away from the smoke. And all this coming from a German who burned Jews in ovens; ok. Josey Wales --- You're joking re. "German burned Jews in ovens" right? If not, you've just made a complete fool of yourself. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1192776 Canada 12/14/2010 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree 100% that 911 was perpetrated by the US government and military, but these videos are just showing people about to die, trapped in the WTC towers after the US government orchestrated the attack. I imagine this is an attempt at trying to anger people and make attempts at exposing the blatent truth that the towers were indeed destroyed by US operatives seem foolish, because "smoke pipes"...well...that's stupid as shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194852Okay shill, way to write right from the script. "I agree 100% that 911 was perpetrated by the US government and military..." I would say that very few people think that our dumbass government could pull this off. And the military has little interest. But companies like Blackwater had everything to gain. Prince is a born again, so he'd like to see America changed for his beliefs, they made 100s of millions post 911, have strict followers, etc. 9/11 would have been nipped in the bud if the USSA military had not been involved, FROM ITS INCEPTION. |
anonymous321 User ID: 1191850 United States 12/14/2010 08:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all of this seems so complicated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967932wouldn't it have just been easier to fly a couple of planes into those buildings to achieve the exact same effect? No, because, those buildings could not be destroyed by planes. The structure of the WTC was built to withstand multipule jetliner impacts, and were designed so with that specific in mind. A single plane impact would have been the equivilent of poking a pencil thru a screen door, sure, theres a hole, but the screen is still 99% functional. So, in other words, planes alone could not have brought the towers down, thus, the elaborate hoax. 9/11 was planned since 1996 by Al Qaeda. What would prevent their people from working in the WTC and with the airlines as baggage handlers, cleaners, and kitchen workers? They had access to the planes. What would stop them, as employees, from placing bombs/explosives on the planes that flew into the WTC buildings and also inside the buildings? A Boeing 767 is capable of carrying approximately 24,000 gallons (91,000 L) of fuel, EMPTY weight is approximately 190,000 lbs., it's length is 159 ft., cruising speed is 550 mph, cargo area is 2,875 ft. Fly an airplane into the building, thousands of gallons of fuel ignites, planted bombs throughout the buildings explode... Smoke pipes? Nonsense. Last Edited by anonymous321 on 12/14/2010 08:54 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1192776 Canada 12/14/2010 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all of this seems so complicated. Quoting: anonymous321wouldn't it have just been easier to fly a couple of planes into those buildings to achieve the exact same effect? No, because, those buildings could not be destroyed by planes. The structure of the WTC was built to withstand multipule jetliner impacts, and were designed so with that specific in mind. A single plane impact would have been the equivilent of poking a pencil thru a screen door, sure, theres a hole, but the screen is still 99% functional. So, in other words, planes alone could not have brought the towers down, thus, the elaborate hoax. 9/11 was planned since 1996 by Al Qaeda. What would prevent their people from working in the WTC and with the airlines as baggage handlers, cleaners, and kitchen workers? They had access to the planes. What would stop them, as employees, from placing bombs/explosives on the planes that flew into the WTC buildings and also inside the buildings? A Boeing 767 is capable of carrying approximately 24,000 gallons (91,000 L) of fuel, EMPTY weight is approximately 190,000 lbs., it's length is 159 ft., cruising speed is 550 mph, cargo area is 2,875 ft. Fly an airplane into the building, thousands of gallons of fuel ignites, planted bombs throughout the buildings explode... You are stupid beyond measure and living in impenetrable ignorance. That's quite the accomplishment after nearly a decade of revelatory info about 9/11. |
anonymous321 User ID: 1191850 United States 12/14/2010 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9/11 was planned since 1996 by Al Qaeda. What would prevent their people from working in the WTC and with the airlines as baggage handlers, cleaners, and kitchen workers? They had access to the planes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1192776What would stop them, as employees, from placing bombs/explosives on the planes that flew into the WTC buildings and also inside the buildings? A Boeing 767 is capable of carrying approximately 24,000 gallons (91,000 L) of fuel, EMPTY weight is approximately 190,000 lbs., it's length is 159 ft., cruising speed is 550 mph, cargo area is 2,875 ft. Fly an airplane into the building, thousands of gallons of fuel ignites, planted bombs throughout the buildings explode... You are stupid beyond measure and living in impenetrable ignorance. That's quite the accomplishment after nearly a decade of revelatory info about 9/11. I know more than you ever will. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1136123 United States 12/14/2010 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anybody who believes anything this ass is regurgitating from that other bullshit site is completely retarded. you are looking at buckled surface material. that smoke is clearly being swept around from the other side of the building. its not coming from the cracked surfacing. idea... lets see pics from all sides of the building at the exact same point in time before jumping (pun intended) to conclusions. morans. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1192776 Canada 12/14/2010 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9/11 was planned since 1996 by Al Qaeda. What would prevent their people from working in the WTC and with the airlines as baggage handlers, cleaners, and kitchen workers? They had access to the planes. Quoting: anonymous321What would stop them, as employees, from placing bombs/explosives on the planes that flew into the WTC buildings and also inside the buildings? A Boeing 767 is capable of carrying approximately 24,000 gallons (91,000 L) of fuel, EMPTY weight is approximately 190,000 lbs., it's length is 159 ft., cruising speed is 550 mph, cargo area is 2,875 ft. Fly an airplane into the building, thousands of gallons of fuel ignites, planted bombs throughout the buildings explode... You are stupid beyond measure and living in impenetrable ignorance. That's quite the accomplishment after nearly a decade of revelatory info about 9/11. I know more than you ever will. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073930 United States 12/14/2010 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is one guy, whose picture was dated on 9/11 with obit and everything alredy there. How could anybody know who died on the 11th? Turns out, his brother is then running for Senate, and his sister is Obama's filmmaker! The guys name was David H Rice, check it out if you dont believe it. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1038822 United States 12/14/2010 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im pretty speechless and havent even scratched the surface of those threads. I feel like i did when first learning of the controlled demolition all those years ago. For the whole thing to be gutted slowly in the years leading up to the event makes perfect sense. The tenants are suspect, they moved in but didnt really 'move' in. They could've done it over 5+ years and... just.. wow Quoting: Anonymous Coward 830513Ya, it is very surprising and hard to fathom. But the truth is that the world trade center was a carefully crafted legend. And they had 30 years to create this legend. The Illusion and legend started with the construction itself of the tower; If you carefully sift through all of the pictures of construction you will notice that they never poured all of the floors; Surprise, surprise! Take the WTC "Where's the Concrete?" Challenge: Can you find the concrete at the WTC? [link to letsrollforums.com] What we found is that they laid very minimal concrete flooring; The very construction of the world trade center was an Illusion and a hoax. Josey Wales --- |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 711379 United States 12/14/2010 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im pretty speechless and havent even scratched the surface of those threads. I feel like i did when first learning of the controlled demolition all those years ago. For the whole thing to be gutted slowly in the years leading up to the event makes perfect sense. The tenants are suspect, they moved in but didnt really 'move' in. They could've done it over 5+ years and... just.. wow Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1038822What we found is that they laid very minimal concrete flooring; The very construction of the world trade center was an Illusion and a hoax. Josey Wales --- I don't believe The World Trade Center ever existed,never have!! Most likely Holograms,same for the Statue,which is next.. |
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JimTheOwl User ID: 1146059 United States 12/14/2010 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What pipes? I looked at the 1st image and I don't see a pipe anywhere. Could you point them out to us? This is very interesting stuff. Got any more? ''Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country.'' —President George W. Bush, Sept. 6, 2004 |
FreeDumb User ID: 1183176 United States 12/14/2010 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all of this seems so complicated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 894470wouldn't it have just been easier to fly a couple of planes into those buildings to achieve the exact same effect? Definitely. Ive given up arguing if there were planes or not. Im only interested in why, and who caused it. And also seeing the surviving responders and families ar taken care of...Lucky Larry has a few dollars he could write off his taxes(if he pays them) to donate a million or 2 for medical expenses. That wouldve been a great addendum to his insurance settlement....he has to pay 75pct of the surviving first responders health care. "Majority of Amerika is too awash in its own mediocrity to commit to fighting for freedom" Mojo |
Josey Wales (OP) User ID: 1038822 United States 12/14/2010 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im pretty speechless and havent even scratched the surface of those threads. I feel like i did when first learning of the controlled demolition all those years ago. For the whole thing to be gutted slowly in the years leading up to the event makes perfect sense. The tenants are suspect, they moved in but didnt really 'move' in. They could've done it over 5+ years and... just.. wow Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711379What we found is that they laid very minimal concrete flooring; The very construction of the world trade center was an Illusion and a hoax. Josey Wales --- I don't believe The World Trade Center ever existed,never have!! Most likely Holograms,same for the Statue,which is next.. Why is it that all of the contents of the world trade center were missing from the debris pile? Here is a partial list of what was completely missing from the debris pile at WTC; 45,000 desks 45,000 chairs 245 Acres of Carpeting 40,000 File Cabinets 40,000 Cubicles 75,000 Telephones 50,000 Staplers 20,000 miles of wiring 300 Mainframe computers 45,000 Computer monitors 45,000 Keyboards 45,000 mice/computer aid 650 Fire Extinguishers 3000 Copy Machines 2000 Water Coolers 3000 Printers 20,000 doors 40,000 door knobs 450 Refrigerators 5000 Snack and Soda vending machines 3000 Wallets & purses 3000 Employee ID cards (Required after 1993 bombing) 3000 Employee personal cell phones [link to letsrollforums.com] They didn't find a single phone, a desk, a chair, fire extinguisher. Not a single door knob was recovered out of 40,000! No carpeting. All 240 acres of it GONE! There is only one way this is possible. And thats if those items were missing from the world trade center to begin with. Why else have fake smoke at the WTC? [link to letsrollforums.com] Josey Wales -- |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073930 United States 12/14/2010 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No matter how you blew them up, if the towers were full of all that stuff, it would be everywhere. It would have all become projectiles. Maybe someone can explain how carpet could turn to dust? 240 acres of carpeting would still be burning in 2002. There would have been little plastic trash cans in every shot, but now that I look, I dont see ANY. ???? Maybe you're onto something there. |
Josey Wales (OP) User ID: 1038822 United States 12/14/2010 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That makes a lot of sense. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073930No matter how you blew them up, if the towers were full of all that stuff, it would be everywhere. It would have all become projectiles. Maybe someone can explain how carpet could turn to dust? 240 acres of carpeting would still be burning in 2002. There would have been little plastic trash cans in every shot, but now that I look, I dont see ANY. ???? Maybe you're onto something there. Also check out the words they use in this video: Pulverized into their own dust...Missing 1200 feet of towers... They didn't find a phone. Not a single phone. 78,000 missing phones, among everything else missing. 77,000 phones. Josey Wales -- |
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FreeDumb User ID: 1183176 United States 12/14/2010 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right, space beams are the answer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073930In the face of simple rational explanations, why do people always resort ot the ridiculous. Thos guys have proved it was just a show, so you answer with Buck Rogers HorseS*&%. The only bit of this I followed was the wierd burn patterns of the cars, and some flying papers that DIDNT burn. Strange stuff with the cars. "Majority of Amerika is too awash in its own mediocrity to commit to fighting for freedom" Mojo |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073930 United States 12/14/2010 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I looked at the pictures of the smoke pipes. I don't see how you could miss them. There couldn't have been anyone working on those floors. That is obvious. But there were victims claimed working on those particular floors. Marsh & McClennen, with lots of CIA ties,claimed great losses on those floors. But they obviously weren't there. |
Maggador User ID: 1165735 Argentina 12/14/2010 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also if the building was empty, then who were the people jumping out of the windows etc? I have known for long it was staged, but never thought of it in this new light, and the list of missing items listed above is interesting if true, and so for missing bodies of all those thousands of supposed dead if that too turns out to be fact. And that also raises a new question, if there were no people in the building or at least very few people, where are all those thousands of people that supposedly WERE there and worked there when it happpened, any info on that? Personally I was always under the impression that only some floors had been emptied out before hand, and "reconstruction work" was the excuse, and that various floors had been "fixed" up with explosives during this "reconstruction work". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073930 United States 12/14/2010 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have a list of research links over there. The fake dead were, like operation northwoods, mostly made up. Some were rich connected who got to disappear, etc.. The Intelligence guys make up personas and aliases all the time, and they had lots of time. They have a thread about the fake jumpers and Gelatin B, that pretty much take care of that. Actually it was pretty easy, and people will believe whatever they see on tv. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073930 United States 12/14/2010 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I kept reading the thread and it answered you question. There was lots of traffic in the towers every day, without any office workers. There was a subway station There was a mall at the concourse level There were the restaurants at the top of one tower The observation deck on the other tower drew 25,000 visitors per day So I guess there would be lots of people anyway, even if the rest of it was empty |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1188964 United States 12/14/2010 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anybody who believes anything this ass is regurgitating from that other bullshit site is completely retarded. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1136123you are looking at buckled surface material. that smoke is clearly being swept around from the other side of the building. its not coming from the cracked surfacing. idea... lets see pics from all sides of the building at the exact same point in time before jumping (pun intended) to conclusions. morans. That's exactly what I was thinking. This is some 9-11 disinformation site trying to get into the light to fuck things up for 9-11 truth. Stick to the facts. |