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We are capable of such amazing, beautiful things...if we all were not so fearful of traveling through dark spaces

 
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We are capable of such amazing, beautiful things...if we all were not so fearful of traveling through dark spaces...Our presence in dark spaces without fear but with attitudes of love and relationship, transforms everything we come in contact with. Light shines the brightest in the darkest places. - SS



This is just a small part of my night a few months ago. I have hours and hours of conscious dreaming (lucid) along with astral travel type experiences. I cannot find a word to describe the states or places I go to, but I am fully conscious.

I will begin at perhaps half the way through my lucid night last night, so I am just going to jump right in. I travel and experience places in a continuous run of consciousness, just like traveling to different locales, remaining conscious the entire time. Sometimes it feels like I literally change places that I visit. When I am experiencing these things, it is 'realer' than this world, so it is difficult to explain the emotional/spiritual changes I go through as well.


Here we go:
At a certain point, I decided to ‘travel’. I float about 3-4 feet off the sandy beach, at night. The lighting is as if there are torches lit…a dull, wavering orange-ish light…or maybe like a beach bonfire under full moon. I spread my arms out and lean forward against a slight breeze, and I lift up into the night. I just go with it, having it take me wherever it chooses, leaving my mind empty of intention.

I begin to see where I am heading. It is a darker spot in the night sky…no stars…no moon…a black hole in the air above me. There are feelings always associated with this type of experience, and anxiety spreads its wings in my soul. So, I am going to the dark spaces. I don’t know where or what I will experience, but I have been to these places many, many times. They are not fun, but can be incredibly enlightening to the soul…

When I pierce through the black whole in the dark sky, there is a shift. It feels as if pressure has swallowed me completely, and I ‘turn’ upside down, falling fast and faster ‘down’. Vast areas like dark plains are coming up to meet me. On the black plains there are white holes, my perception sees them as the size of a quarter between my fingers of my outstretched arm. There are perhaps 3 or 4 white holes, and they vibrate…I choose one of them and head towards it. Everything is shaking until I ‘lock-on’ to it. It is like I must match vibration frequency, and then the desired hole stops vibrating and swallows me into it.

I keep going down. I know that the further down I go, the ‘darker’ the experience. I repeated the above experience, dropping down through a white hole to find myself still falling towards another layer of blackness with other vibrating white holes. Match vibrations and pulled through…until there is only one white hole in the blackness…sink through that one…I am laying in a small cramped space.

The space is about 2 feet high, about 6x6. There is a small dingy light on the ceiling (where I entered). It looks like I am underground, the walls, floor, ceiling made of dirt. This is how many of these dark places are like. They are claustrophobic, dirty and uncomfortable as there are ‘feelings’ associated with the places. It is as if the ‘place’ has emotions. This one…despair, no way out, etc. And, to top it off, it has dirty brown bugs crawling around in here with me. The ugly nasty things are about the size of a baseball glove. They notice me and begin crawling on me. I can feel the spindly legs gripping me, and an occasional bite. I can’t brush them off because there is not enough room.

I HATE this. It is horrible. The entire experience is like a worst nightmare. I am completely lucid, so I can easily wake up if I want. So, it is a decision that seems crazy…do I wake up, or keep going?

Fuck it.

There is another dingy light to my left a couple feet ahead of me. I crawl towards it, and go in it.

…and enter an identical place, but the light is in a different area. More of these nasty bugs, on the ceiling and walls. I crawl towards another light which takes me a few minutes. Go through it.

Again…again…

I don’t know how many times, but one time I notice something different. There is a dirty cloth curtain that I hadn’t seen before…maybe it was behind me the entire time. I turn around and crawl through it. It is like a partition to an even smaller dirty hole that I cannot fit completely in. Straight ahead of me is another curtain. To the left is a mirror. The mirror is unfocused, so I crawl very close to it and look at myself. Holy shit!

There are these bugs crawling all over me. I can feel them, but seeing them on me makes it a thousand times worse. There are huge bleeding swells on me where the critters have bitten and scratched me. I can feel them moving over me. My face is disfigured because of the bugs. Dirty, black and blue, swollen, bumps…I am close to panicking now. Fear is about to take over. It’s not worth going through this! And for what?! What the fuck am I doing!?

Seeing myself start to panic, makes me calm down, and I stare into the mirror. There is a critter on my hand. I want to shake it off, but there isn’t enough room. I bring my hand forward in front of my face and grab the thing with my other hand to try and pull it off. I can feel its legs, like a giant cockroach, clinging strongly to my hand. This…fucking…sucks…

I finally am able to pull it off, but I don’t have any where to put it. Straight in front of me is the mirror…the only place I can put it is…inside the mirror. My thoughts have calmed down. There was never any ‘fear’, but immense discomfort. I study the thing, wondering what it is, while putting it ‘into’ the mirror. As soon as it touches the mirror, it transforms.

A green tree frog. I laugh and smile…and grab another inset off of me…and touch it to the mirror…another beautiful green tree frog. I transform all the insects in my little dirty hole. It is beautiful…the frogs are transforming the entire place. The feelings of the place are changing, the colors, everything. They are going through it all, hopping everywhere, changing everything.

It is beautiful…I push through the other curtain and see yet another light...and go through it. Movement, vibrations…off to another place…
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Re: We are capable of such amazing, beautiful things...if we all were not so fearful of traveling through dark spaces
If this part of the experience lasted about an hour...then I would say all of the other experiences last night was about 8 hours or so worth. It is amazing...
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I'm so glad you write about your experiences!

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I'm so glad you write about your experiences!

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Thanks, that feels good. It is difficult to describe them, and they are so frequent that it would take all my time to write any one of them.

These are the experiences I don't talk much about. They are personal, and how can I explain the reality of them?
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Re: We are capable of such amazing, beautiful things...if we all were not so fearful of traveling through dark spaces
i just caught the word frequent in you post and "frequent flyer" sparked laughter to tears 1rof1

... on a serious not i agree with aruna.....thanks for sharing sickscent...it feels important...one way or another thumbs
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This is why I would like to see such thing as instant download of another's perception...wouldn't that be convenient...a way to step INTO another person for a moment in order to "see" from their perspective in order to fully understand their view/memory/ideas/experiences.

The problem with that would be who would you trust enough to share that view with. Not many people want others to get that close or comfortable with their truth.

I can be overly sharing sometimes...I want people to see what I see, feel what I feel, know where I've been and what I've done that makes me who I am for the simple reason so they understand me better when we communicate...

Sometimes this leads to me asking WAAAAAAY too many questions of a personal nature that makes people go BACK THE FUCK OFF!! Even though my core intent is just to understand them better and learn something through that communication.

hf
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I have many more...hundreds more. I don't keep up with them. It is futility to try and write them down. They occur every other night, to one extent or another. The ones that are important, are the ones that change the dark places. The experience during the transformation cannot be properly explained...it is a spiritual experience...it is like not only having a spiritual experience, but changing dark to light.

It cannot be expressed in words.
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i just caught the word frequent in you post and "frequent flyer" sparked laughter to tears 1rof1

... on a serious not i agree with aruna.....thanks for sharing sickscent...it feels important...one way or another thumbs
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This is why I get so 'tired' of being. It 'feels' important, but is it? To me, yes. More than anything, yes. Is it making a difference? To me, yes. To others...I think so. If all of this is true...spirits, souls, life after death, OBE's, NDE's, etc., etc., then there are massive changes being wrought across the non-material realms. lol

I know them as to be true, because of my life, my experiences, lived in them. I know that 'things' don't like me changing 'things'.

I am rambling...don't mean to. I guess what I am attempting to say, is that when certain individuals have spiritual experiences (and others...like Robert Monroe), they know it as a Truthful experience. We are more than flesh and blood...so much more...
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This is why I would like to see such thing as instant download of another's perception...wouldn't that be convenient...a way to step INTO another person for a moment in order to "see" from their perspective in order to fully understand their view/memory/ideas/experiences.

The problem with that would be who would you trust enough to share that view with. Not many people want others to get that close or comfortable with their truth.

I can be overly sharing sometimes...I want people to see what I see, feel what I feel, know where I've been and what I've done that makes me who I am for the simple reason so they understand me better when we communicate...

Sometimes this leads to me asking WAAAAAAY too many questions of a personal nature that makes people go BACK THE FUCK OFF!! Even though my core intent is just to understand them better and learn something through that communication.

hf
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Yes, I understand...there is sooooo much missing from these written words. Maybe someday...
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I'm so glad you write about your experiences!

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I'm not sure it is worth it. The experiences take so long to write down, and not much comes from them here on GLP...maybe, I should write a book with them...
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This is why I would like to see such thing as instant download of another's perception...wouldn't that be convenient...a way to step INTO another person for a moment in order to "see" from their perspective in order to fully understand their view/memory/ideas/experiences.

The problem with that would be who would you trust enough to share that view with. Not many people want others to get that close or comfortable with their truth.


I can be overly sharing sometimes...I want people to see what I see, feel what I feel, know where I've been and what I've done that makes me who I am for the simple reason so they understand me better when we communicate...

Sometimes this leads to me asking WAAAAAAY too many questions of a personal nature that makes people go BACK THE FUCK OFF!! Even though my core intent is just to understand them better and learn something through that communication.

hf
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The act of Love through total submission to the Truth. Without resistance, a 'walk-in' is welcomed, to experience You and Life through your eyes.

There's a lot of introspection and sense of judgment initially, but the more the 'traffic', the more humbling and smoother it goes.

Has a lot to do with loss of pride and physical polarity.

I'm rambling...

Anyway, it ties in with this thread. Sickscent knows you gotta be fearless. It's a form of spiritual warfare to many. And it's being waged on our fears.

Furthermore, it's not all based on personal perceptions leading to visualizations that resemble constructs from our past. Overcoming the emotion, regardless of the construct, leads to either more focus or more relaxation. Either way senses come into check.

So these investigations are worth pursuing on many levels. There's always something to learn, one may be humbled to tears, and Nature echoes your Love with her Respect and Embrace.
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I know them as to be true, because of my life, my experiences, lived in them. I know that 'things' don't like me changing 'things'.

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Well said.

That's sort of paramount. Avoid messing with Creation regardless of whether you're convinced that it's about co-creation. Sit back and contemplate more, cause there's resistance to the 'probing' and spinning....

'The Way does nothing, yet nothing is left undone.'
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. Light shines the brightest in the darkest places. -


The lighting is as if there are torches lit…a dull, wavering orange-ish light…or maybe like a beach bonfire under full moon.

 Quoting: Sickscent

true/false?
one cannot see light when one is in it?
one can only see light when one is in darkness?
consequently one must be dark in order to shine?
is our sun dark inside?

does a white body sun shine red?
so many questions ....

as for the type of lighting you saw, whenever i see this type of lighting when i go there I MAKE SURE I DONT TOUCH ANYTHING THERE...

thanks for sharing ss hf
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Anyway, it ties in with this thread. Sickscent knows you gotta be fearless. It's a form of spiritual warfare to many. And it's being waged on our fears.

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I cannot tell you how many times I have heard that...thanks Dude.
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. Light shines the brightest in the darkest places. -


The lighting is as if there are torches lit…a dull, wavering orange-ish light…or maybe like a beach bonfire under full moon.


true/false?
one cannot see light when one is in it?
one can only see light when one is in darkness?
consequently one must be dark in order to shine?
is our sun dark inside?

does a white body sun shine red?
so many questions ....

as for the type of lighting you saw, whenever i see this type of lighting when i go there I MAKE SURE I DONT TOUCH ANYTHING THERE...

thanks for sharing ss hf
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Good post Sicksent.

I always like firing up a fatty when I click on one of your posts. Good reading.
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SS, I heard of conscious dreaming and also tried it. But I haven`t succeeded so far. Instead, I enjoy the practice of meditation.

Can you give any advice on how you prepare yourself before you go to sleep, or this a natural state you get into?
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lol

wow your like astral magic man

strange tho- for all the great wisdom and power you typing on a conspiracy site

i can do that already

lol
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SS, I heard of conscious dreaming and also tried it. But I haven`t succeeded so far. Instead, I enjoy the practice of meditation.

Can you give any advice on how you prepare yourself before you go to sleep, or this a natural state you get into?
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All of the above. I have had lucid dreams every since I was a child. When I started practicing meditation frequently, it seemed they began occurring more frequently. I really got into Robert Monroe's work and the 'astral travel'/OBE stuff.

Everything REALLY began changing when I started practicing meditation while lucid dreaming. I started rolling all of the practices into one experience. So, I would meditate in the lucid dream and attempt to 'travel' by going out of body in my dream body.

Now, I am rambling. I'll say it in a much easier way when I get to work today.
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lol

wow your like astral magic man

strange tho- for all the great wisdom and power you typing on a conspiracy site

i can do that already

lol
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Don't buy into SS's delusions of grandeur, he's just as clueless as the rest of us.
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I thank you for sharing as well. I also understand how difficult it is to put such an experience into words. I am ignorant of other languages, but English is inadequate for emotions/inner mind workings.

I find it interesting that your 'bug' turned into a frog. The symbolism is both amusing and beautiful, especially if you view it from a shamanic paradigm. Then, adding the dark/light part of the experience also increases the dimensionality (again I am struggling with words), but it expands the meaning in new directions/exponentially.

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Loving it, SickScent! hf
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Loving it, SickScent! hf
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hf
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This is why I would like to see such thing as instant download of another's perception...wouldn't that be convenient...a way to step INTO another person for a moment in order to "see" from their perspective in order to fully understand their view/memory/ideas/experiences.

The problem with that would be who would you trust enough to share that view with. Not many people want others to get that close or comfortable with their truth.


I can be overly sharing sometimes...I want people to see what I see, feel what I feel, know where I've been and what I've done that makes me who I am for the simple reason so they understand me better when we communicate...

Sometimes this leads to me asking WAAAAAAY too many questions of a personal nature that makes people go BACK THE FUCK OFF!! Even though my core intent is just to understand them better and learn something through that communication.



The act of Love through total submission to the Truth. Without resistance, a 'walk-in' is welcomed, to experience You and Life through your eyes.

There's a lot of introspection and sense of judgment initially, but the more the 'traffic', the more humbling and smoother it goes.

Has a lot to do with loss of pride and physical polarity.


I'm rambling...

Anyway, it ties in with this thread. Sickscent knows you gotta be fearless. It's a form of spiritual warfare to many. And it's being waged on our fears.

Furthermore, it's not all based on personal perceptions leading to visualizations that resemble constructs from our past. Overcoming the emotion, regardless of the construct, leads to either more focus or more relaxation. Either way senses come into check.

So these investigations are worth pursuing on many levels. There's always something to learn, one may be humbled to tears, and Nature echoes your Love with her Respect and Embrace.
 Quoting: just a dude


i have experienced that within another person but i never thought of it as you describe just a dude

makes perfect sense and prompts greater awareness

thanks rockon
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Re: We are capable of such amazing, beautiful things...if we all were not so fearful of traveling through dark spaces
We are capable...I wish I could get past some of my fears.(OBE is being a pain for me as of late.)

Anyway I have this quote I use a lot.

Light gives of itself freely, filling all available space. It does not seek anything in return; it asks not whether you are friend or foe. It gives of itself and is not thereby diminished. ~Michael Strassfeld

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Your experiences sounds so much like mine. I encounter these bugs, and sometimes it's cat's for some reason. I'm not sure why i end up in these places yet, and it's very draining to go through it and not be able to explain it.

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Your experiences sounds so much like mine. I encounter these bugs, and sometimes it's cat's for some reason. I'm not sure why i end up in these places yet, and it's very draining to go through it and not be able to explain it.
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Yes...very.
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SS, I heard of conscious dreaming and also tried it. But I haven`t succeeded so far. Instead, I enjoy the practice of meditation.

Can you give any advice on how you prepare yourself before you go to sleep, or this a natural state you get into?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195897

Heading off to bed now but I've never touched drugs before yet I have always been interested in altering my state of mind through other methods.

Also excellent post OP +1
Sounds like it could either be "just" a lucid dream or like you were somehow able to transform something within yourself.

Checking this thread in the morning
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SS, I heard of conscious dreaming and also tried it. But I haven`t succeeded so far. Instead, I enjoy the practice of meditation.

Can you give any advice on how you prepare yourself before you go to sleep, or this a natural state you get into?

Heading off to bed now but I've never touched drugs before yet I have always been interested in altering my state of mind through other methods.

Also excellent post OP +1
Sounds like it could either be "just" a lucid dream or like you were somehow able to transform something within yourself.

Checking this thread in the morning
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I don't know how to properly explain it, but this type of experience is different than a lucid dream experience. If anyone is familiar with Robert Monroe's work...well, these journeys are similar to his. I don't know how to explain the difference right now, but there are differences. Just like an OBE is different from a dream.
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Also, I have found that a small dose of Melatonin (5mg) before bed helps dream recall.
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Good post Sicksent.

I always like firing up a fatty when I click on one of your posts. Good reading.
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