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I have a theory on time...

 
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I have a theory on time...
With out going too into detail about this theory (as it is just a thought and still needs some work), I believe that our "perception" of time is in direct correlation with the amount of information being processed by our brains. As we should all know "time" is not a constant and is a perceived "constraint" we place on reality. As Mihály Csíkszentmihály theorized in his concept of flow, time can seem to come to a stand still when one is "in the zone".
Wikipedia- Flow (psychology): According to Csíkszentmihályi, flow is completely focused motivation. It is a single-minded immersion and represents perhaps the ultimate in harnessing the emotions in the service of performing and learning. In flow the emotions are not just contained and channeled, but positive, energized, and aligned with the task at hand. To be caught in the ennui of depression or the agitation of anxiety is to be barred from flow. The hallmark of flow is a feeling of spontaneous joy, even rapture, while performing a task.[2]

Colloquial terms for this or similar mental states include: to be on the ball, in the moment, present, in the zone, in the groove, or keeping your head in the game."

For instance, I know that when I am driving down an unfamiliar road time seems to pass slower, this is because my brain is processing more information compared to a road that you travel daily. After the first or second time drving this now not so unfamiliar road one might feel the time move not as slow.
This theory is easily felt/seen in everyday life, the more mundane the day/week/month/year the faster your time/life will pass you by. If you are not stimulating your brain with NEW and MORE information time will continue to feel as if it speeds up. I know that the older I get the faster the days and years seem to pass.
The theory in a nut shell; The more information being processed the slower time seems to pass, in return, the less information being processed the quicker time will seem to pass. The more your brain has to "think" the more "time" you will "make" to process.

What are your thoughts??

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Anybody?
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Mihály Csíkszentmihály, Flow, great book. I like your theory.

So what happens when we remove sight from the experience ?

Also, some recent research shows we actually don't see things the same.

" The surface area of human primary visual cortex (V1) varies substantially between individuals for unknown reasons. We found that this variability was strongly and negatively correlated with the magnitude of two common visual illusions, where two physically identical objects appear different in size as a result of their context. Because such illusions dissociate conscious perception from physical stimulation, our findings indicate that the surface area of V1 predicts variability in conscious experience."

[link to www.nature.com]
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Interesting Super, however, I feel taking ANY of our 5 senses out of the "equation" would not change anything. As we have learned from such individuals like this young man;

Our brains will compensate and take in more information through the other senses to make up for the "missing" sense.

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wtf Nobody else? whatever
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Interesting Super, however, I feel taking ANY of our 5 senses out of the "equation" would not change anything. As we have learned from such individuals like this young man;

Our brains will compensate and take in more information through the other senses to make up for the "missing" sense.
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People who are blind from birth are able to detect tactile information faster than people with normal vision.

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

Got me wondering about perception experiments with blind folks. Most of us use our eyes. Interesting.
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Good thinking OP, I like.

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It seems to me like the opposite would be true. For instance I work in a restaurant, and when it is really busy I'm having to manage many orders (information) at once. On busy nights like that, where I'm constantly moving and processing orders, complaints, and other things that come up during the night, time seems to fly by. During slow nights where I stand around and bullshit, time crawls by and I end up constantly looking at the clock waiting to close.
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Yes, it is interesting, I am sure "perception" of "reality" can really vary from person to person, that would include time, information processing, emotional response, etc.
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It seems to me like the opposite would be true. For instance I work in a restaurant, and when it is really busy I'm having to manage many orders (information) at once. On busy nights like that, where I'm constantly moving and processing orders, complaints, and other things that come up during the night, time seems to fly by. During slow nights where I stand around and bullshit, time crawls by and I end up constantly looking at the clock waiting to close.
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I too work in a restaurant, bartending, I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. However, I also find myself going into what I call "autopilot" mode, the work is SOOO repetitivy you are only using old brain pathways again and again and not creating NEW ones, or not processing new information just repeating old information. When it is slow, you are doing DIFFERENT things to pass the time such as socialize and conversate which usually will create new brain path ways, see what I am saying?
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This is somewhat related, but whenever I'm under the effect of some THC I seem to take in more information at once and time passes slower. It's like I am able to "fit" more thinking into certain amount of time as opposed to being sober. Maybe like a brain thought processing overclock... On the other hand, if I have been drinking and get pretty tipsy, time goes by much quicker. Like my brain reacts to the outside world slower as time flies by me.
Just sharing thoughts.
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Get the Truth Out

OP, are you still able to post on that forum?
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I am OYE, I visit daily, but I don't post as much as I used to, there are only a handful of "us" still over there.. I dunno why though I thought it was a great place.
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Interesting theory.
Interesting Super, however, I feel taking ANY of our 5 senses out of the "equation" would not change anything. As we have learned from such individuals like this young man;

Our brains will compensate and take in more information through the other senses to make up for the "missing" sense.
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It might just be me, but my bullshit detector is telling me this vid is bullshit. The idea is of course true, our other senses rise to the occasion when another goes down, just the video seems faked to me.
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Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I imagine if I would get thrown into a brand new experience I would take the time to absorb it more, rather than going to "auto-pilot" like you said.
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Re: I have a theory on time...
Time is relative, as in, "Dependent upon something else for significance; not absolute."

A silly example, but one that makes the point, to a degree; when I lived in a city years ago, I was dependent upon buses, rail, etc. to get to work. I had to make about 7 changes, to get where I was going.

Sometimes it would take over an hour. Other times, when I was running late, I would make up my mind that I was, "on time". I would convince myself and sure enough, I always got there on time, sometimes in as little as 15 minutes. I do not know how or why, just that if I kept telling myself I was on time and there was no other choice, I would be. Try it sometime.
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So how would we even understand reality without external stimuli..would our circadian rhythms persist in response to larger forces at play ? Makes me think about a brain in a vat ( I think, a primary inspiration for the movie " The Matrix ".

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Hmm I have theory on Time too.
Which is that it doesn't really exist, but is a human construct.
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This is somewhat related, but whenever I'm under the effect of some THC I seem to take in more information at once and time passes slower. It's like I am able to "fit" more thinking into certain amount of time as opposed to being sober. Maybe like a brain thought processing overclock... On the other hand, if I have been drinking and get pretty tipsy, time goes by much quicker. Like my brain reacts to the outside world slower as time flies by me.
Just sharing thoughts.
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I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, this example IS what I am talking about. As far as breaking it down as to why THC and alcohol have opposite effects on this I could only speculate.
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It seems to me like the opposite would be true. For instance I work in a restaurant, and when it is really busy I'm having to manage many orders (information) at once. On busy nights like that, where I'm constantly moving and processing orders, complaints, and other things that come up during the night, time seems to fly by. During slow nights where I stand around and bullshit, time crawls by and I end up constantly looking at the clock waiting to close.


I too work in a restaurant, bartending, I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. However, I also find myself going into what I call "autopilot" mode, the work is SOOO repetitivy you are only using old brain pathways again and again and not creating NEW ones, or not processing new information just repeating old information. When it is slow, you are doing DIFFERENT things to pass the time such as socialize and conversate which usually will create new brain path ways, see what I am saying?
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20+ years in foodservice for me, I know exactly what we are speaking of. It's the "flow". It's bumping 100's of covers out and all of a sudden, it's time to start wrapping up for the night. One of my favorite tricks as a chef, was to change the clock hands around when my line cooks went out to smoke.

Heh heh heh.
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I'm very interested in the concept of time and your theory sounds intriguing...but I'm too fried to comprehend it now...bookmarked for a eval tomorrow.
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It seems to me like the opposite would be true. For instance I work in a restaurant, and when it is really busy I'm having to manage many orders (information) at once. On busy nights like that, where I'm constantly moving and processing orders, complaints, and other things that come up during the night, time seems to fly by. During slow nights where I stand around and bullshit, time crawls by and I end up constantly looking at the clock waiting to close.
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i agree with this poster op. when i'm very busy at work time flies, and when there is nothing going on it drags.
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Hmm I have theory on Time too.
Which is that it doesn't really exist, but is a human construct.
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Yes, I agree, as I mentioned in my original post, "as we all should know..." But, we HAVE "constructed" it and have created ways to measure it. We know that time is NOT a constant, I am just sharing one POSSIBLE way to prove and to see that it is not.
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Re: I have a theory on time...
This is somewhat related, but whenever I'm under the effect of some THC I seem to take in more information at once and time passes slower. It's like I am able to "fit" more thinking into certain amount of time as opposed to being sober. Maybe like a brain thought processing overclock... On the other hand, if I have been drinking and get pretty tipsy, time goes by much quicker. Like my brain reacts to the outside world slower as time flies by me.
Just sharing thoughts.

I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, this example IS what I am talking about. As far as breaking it down as to why THC and alcohol have opposite effects on this I could only speculate.
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You know now that I think of it I may have a theory. You tend to see more "novelty" in everything when you smoke. And when you drink, you pay a lot less attention to everything around you. Thus connecting to your theory of taking in more information to slow down time, while flying through time when doing the routine.
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I am OYE, I visit daily, but I don't post as much as I used to, there are only a handful of "us" still over there.. I dunno why though I thought it was a great place.


I didn't go there enough and the OP deleted my login.

I miss the group. I thought the group was a great collective group of people.

I really liked the treasure thread.

Is the OP going to let people join again? I would really like to go back there and talk with everyone.
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I liked the group too, we were like a think tank over there. I am not sure what Opie plans for that site, we have mentioned bringing in more people again but Opie said he was waiting for some reason. I will bring it up again to him though, it would be nice to have you and everyone else around again.
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Re: I have a theory on time...
This is somewhat related, but whenever I'm under the effect of some THC I seem to take in more information at once and time passes slower. It's like I am able to "fit" more thinking into certain amount of time as opposed to being sober. Maybe like a brain thought processing overclock... On the other hand, if I have been drinking and get pretty tipsy, time goes by much quicker. Like my brain reacts to the outside world slower as time flies by me.
Just sharing thoughts.

I appreciate you sharing your thoughts, this example IS what I am talking about. As far as breaking it down as to why THC and alcohol have opposite effects on this I could only speculate.


You know now that I think of it I may have a theory. You tend to see more "novelty" in everything when you smoke. And when you drink, you pay a lot less attention to everything around you. Thus connecting to your theory of taking in more information to slow down time, while flying through time when doing the routine.
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Double post
In conclusion... perception of time is relative to how active the brain is, or at least how active your attention/consciousness level is. Basically what OP said.
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It seems to me like the opposite would be true. For instance I work in a restaurant, and when it is really busy I'm having to manage many orders (information) at once. On busy nights like that, where I'm constantly moving and processing orders, complaints, and other things that come up during the night, time seems to fly by. During slow nights where I stand around and bullshit, time crawls by and I end up constantly looking at the clock waiting to close.

i agree with this poster op. when i'm very busy at work time flies, and when there is nothing going on it drags.
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Yes I agreed too, did you read my response to this post and what the poster of the quoted post then said in response to my post?? haha confusing I know, just read the rest it gets answered.
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I was on a city street, all seemed like a normal busy day on the city. Then a tall man with a beard and a black tunic grabbed my arm (he seemed like an archetypal hermit) and led me into a circular 'hall'. In the hall there were couples all dressed the same way and of the same height. All women in baby blue elegant gowns and all men in black suits. All were dancing and twirling as couples in a synchronized way and were equidistant from each other. However there was a spot that was not uniform it gave me the impression that they needed a few more couples to complete the uniform dance that may have had a "sacred" geometrical shape. The couples dancing made the circular floor move round. The man then mentally told me to find a female of my height. He also asked me if I knew the number or rate at which the mono-atomical number flowed into the place, I didn't answer. On the right of the circular hall was a doorway that led to the left and right. He said not to go to the left but I went into that one (it wasn't my will). There I met an old friend and I felt melancholy and mild sorrow.-end07
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For you to measure an acceleration or deceleration of time you need to have a constant. In other words, if the constant of time is a set pace (within our standard gravitational constant at 1g) and your brain is processing data far quicker than normal then it would seem that time is slowing down from its "normal constant."

Which means time is a constant. The great question right now in physics is what EXACTLY is that constant, when does the wave function collapse over a measurement of time? Is it a seamless progression or is it phased as miniscule "packets" of time? We don't know, and there are theoretical equations showing both to be true. Some have even suggested (though no math exists for this) that time is both a phased packets ordered in a seamless progression. There really is very little research into the area of time as most physicists cannot see an application to answering that question defintively and thusly do not waste their time on it, feeling that at some point, during the work on GUT going on, the equations will answer the question by proxy anyways.
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Very good reasoning,...just one problem.
When you, for example, are for the first time with the one you love,...even its the first time,....time seems to pass very fast.

So time its just a state of mind and not at all times related with new or old information.
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