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"Jesus" is a monstrous Satanic astral thought-form

 
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When people project their hopes, fears, desires, etc onto a spiritual target like "Jesus" or any other visualized image, the figure takes on these vibrations on an astral level and becomes a repository of the energy they have projected.

For 2000 years now people have poured their selfish desires into this thought form of "Jesus". This visualized being has received all the negative vibrations from events like the crusades, witch burnings, use to justify the reign of corrupt kings and tyrants, forced conversion of indigenous peoples, and countless other horrors. Even selfish prayer for worldly purposes and personal wealth has added to the torrent of dark psychospiritual energy flowing into this astral vortex.

The result on the astral level is a gigantic, horiffic and evil energy being that feeds vampirically off it's worshippers and harvests their souls. The true God does not have a human image or visual form; it is too far above the manifest realm of concrete images or manlike figures. DO NOT BE TRICKED by a thought-form that is steeped in millennia of negative energy. It has taken on it's own life now and craves souls to consume
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Now im no christard, but please explain to me how Jesus' message is "steeped in negativity"?
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Did you even read what he said? He didn't say anything about his message. He said the acts done in the name of the entity known as "Jesus" have been predominantly negative.

For fuck's sake, read man.
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Now im no christard, but please explain to me how Jesus' message is "steeped in negativity"?
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The problem is not the message. It is the astral being that has been created as a result of toxic thoughts words and deeds done in it's name.
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Whilst this is 100% correct, you will need to explain that thought forms that coalesce into an Aeon are not just limited to the Jesus Aeon, otherwise you will shut down the capacity of some that just might hear.
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name 1 negative thing about Jesus' teaching. He offers you redemption of sins so you may reach the father.
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I've seen the repository in astral and that describes it pretty well. I think you might be exaggerating a few things but it's a good summary.
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Did you even read what he said? He didn't say anything about his message. He said the acts done in the name of the entity known as "Jesus" have been predominantly negative.

For fuck's sake, read man.
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Yes. This.
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Did you even read what he said? He didn't say anything about his message. He said the acts done in the name of the entity known as "Jesus" have been predominantly negative.

For fuck's sake, read man.
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oh shit my bads
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name 1 negative thing about Jesus' teaching. He offers you redemption of sins so you may reach the father.
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That may well all be true with the "vizualized Jesus", but that doesn't mean that there's not a real true Jesus that really wants to help
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Oh by the way OP, so you are insinuating here, that anything really can become one of these repositories for negative energy, so long as people are projecting negative thoughts, acts, and words at it?

For instance, if tomorrow people started killing in the name of Playstation 3, there would build a mass of negativity somewhere related to PS3 that would one day possibly grow to soul consuming levels such as the one mentioned in the OP?
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Not religious. Jesus was not a bad guy. Get off GLP and chill.
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Not religious. Jesus was not a bad guy. Get off GLP and chill.
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What don't you people get about the fact that this has ZERO to do with the person known as Jesus, and everything to do with what has been done in his name?

Holy shit.
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Oh by the way OP, so you are insinuating here, that anything really can become one of these repositories for negative energy, so long as people are projecting negative thoughts, acts, and words at it?

For instance, if tomorrow people started killing in the name of Playstation 3, there would build a mass of negativity somewhere related to PS3 that would one day possibly grow to soul consuming levels such as the one mentioned in the OP?
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If it went on globally for two thousand years, maybe.
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Jesus' message confuses the rules of the Old therefore adds more wars than needed, and fuels anti-god grounds
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That may well all be true with the "vizualized Jesus", but that doesn't mean that there's not a real true Jesus that really wants to help
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Yep.

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Oh by the way OP, so you are insinuating here, that anything really can become one of these repositories for negative energy, so long as people are projecting negative thoughts, acts, and words at it?

For instance, if tomorrow people started killing in the name of Playstation 3, there would build a mass of negativity somewhere related to PS3 that would one day possibly grow to soul consuming levels such as the one mentioned in the OP?


If it went on globally for two thousand years, maybe.
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So would you then agree that Satan is nothing more than one of these same negative energy masses, because of the things people do in his name as well? Especially considering most of the shit heads running the world are Satanists?

Or do you believe Satan is still a manifested being?
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Oh by the way OP, so you are insinuating here, that anything really can become one of these repositories for negative energy, so long as people are projecting negative thoughts, acts, and words at it?

For instance, if tomorrow people started killing in the name of Playstation 3, there would build a mass of negativity somewhere related to PS3 that would one day possibly grow to soul consuming levels such as the one mentioned in the OP?
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yes, actually. There is a Donald Duck in there too. And it is not a joke.
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When people project their hopes, fears, desires, etc onto a spiritual target like "Jesus" or any other visualized image, the figure takes on these vibrations on an astral level and becomes a repository of the energy they have projected.

For 2000 years now people have poured their selfish desires into this thought form of "Jesus". This visualized being has received all the negative vibrations from events like the crusades, witch burnings, use to justify the reign of corrupt kings and tyrants, forced conversion of indigenous peoples, and countless other horrors. Even selfish prayer for worldly purposes and personal wealth has added to the torrent of dark psychospiritual energy flowing into this astral vortex.

The result on the astral level is a gigantic, horiffic and evil energy being that feeds vampirically off it's worshippers and harvests their souls. The true God does not have a human image or visual form; it is too far above the manifest realm of concrete images or manlike figures. DO NOT BE TRICKED by a thought-form that is steeped in millennia of negative energy. It has taken on it's own life now and craves souls to consume
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So now evil is greater than good. Jesus is a being that was never created who incarnated to defeat the very evil u speak about. Not even death could keep hold of him. Yet u think because some people that have a bad idea of what it is to be Christian will transform this good to evil is insane. Jesus explained very clearly in the temple when the Jews where speaking about following the ways of God and Moses that they were in fact following the devil. U see, when one does bad things wether in the name of Jesus, Allah, Moses ... Etc u actually are doing them in the name of your self and the one who started it all, Lucifer. There is no magical negative energy going out transforming God. What is being transformed is ur own heart which I'd following more in the ways of the devil which transforms this world through ur physical actions. All Jesus has to do is twinkle his eyes and he can destroy all evil.
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When people project their hopes, fears, desires, etc onto a spiritual target like "Jesus" or any other visualized image, the figure takes on these vibrations on an astral level and becomes a repository of the energy they have projected.

For 2000 years now people have poured their selfish desires into this thought form of "Jesus". This visualized being has received all the negative vibrations from events like the crusades, witch burnings, use to justify the reign of corrupt kings and tyrants, forced conversion of indigenous peoples, and countless other horrors. Even selfish prayer for worldly purposes and personal wealth has added to the torrent of dark psychospiritual energy flowing into this astral vortex.

The result on the astral level is a gigantic, horiffic and evil energy being that feeds vampirically off it's worshippers and harvests their souls. The true God does not have a human image or visual form; it is too far above the manifest realm of concrete images or manlike figures. DO NOT BE TRICKED by a thought-form that is steeped in millennia of negative energy. It has taken on it's own life now and craves souls to consume

bsflag bsflag bsflag
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Silly uneducated Billy--you.
Did you here of egregores?
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So would you then agree that Satan is nothing more than one of these same negative energy masses, because of the things people do in his name as well? Especially considering most of the shit heads running the world are Satanists?

Or do you believe Satan is still a manifested being?

V ery good questions. There certainly are many other evil and polluted thought forms, and demons and beings specifically and avowidly evil like "Satan" are among them.

The highest spiritual level is beyond form.
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So now evil is greater than good. Jesus is a being that was never created who incarnated to defeat the very evil u speak about. Not even death could keep hold of him. Yet u think because some people that have a bad idea of what it is to be Christian will transform this good to evil is insane. Jesus explained very clearly in the temple when the Jews where speaking about following the ways of God and Moses that they were in fact following the devil. U see, when one does bad things wether in the name of Jesus, Allah, Moses ... Etc u actually are doing them in the name of your self and the one who started it all, Lucifer. There is no magical negative energy going out transforming God. What is being transformed is ur own heart which I'd following more in the ways of the devil which transforms this world through ur physical actions. All Jesus has to do is twinkle his eyes and he can destroy all evil.
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The historical Jesus may well have been a holy man. Certainly the Sermon on the Mount and other writings attest to high spiritual level. But he was not coextensive with the godhead -- at least no more than any other being. To worship a man as a god is a grave error if not an out and out sin.

I would also differentiate somehow between the "Jesus" thoughtform and the "Christ" consciousness, which is far more advanced form of spirituality.
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So would you then agree that Satan is nothing more than one of these same negative energy masses, because of the things people do in his name as well? Especially considering most of the shit heads running the world are Satanists?

Or do you believe Satan is still a manifested being?

V ery good questions. There certainly are many other evil and polluted thought forms, and demons and beings specifically and avowidly evil like "Satan" are among them.

The highest spiritual level is beyond form.
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"A long time ago in China, during the time of Zen Master Lin Chi, there was a monk who was very famous for his Samadhi practicing. This monk, similar to the traditions of digambara, never wore any clothes and was known as the 'naked monk.' He had mastered many kinds of Samadhi, had lots of energy, and didn't need to wear clothes even in winter.

One day Lin Chi decided to test this monk. He called a student of his, gave him a set of beautiful clothes, and asked him to present them to the monk. The student went to the monk and said, 'Ah, you are wonderful. Your practicing is very strong. So my teacher wants to give you these beautiful clothes as a present.' The monk kicked away the clothes and said, 'I don't need these clothes. I have original clothes, from my parents! Your clothes can only be kept a short time, then they will wear out. But my original clothes are never broken. Also, if they become dirty, I just take a shower and they are clean again. I don't need your clothes!'

The student went back to Lin Chi and told him what happened. Lin Chi said, 'You must go to this monk once more and ask him a certain question.' So the student went to the monk and said, 'Great monk! I have one question for you. You said you got your original clothes from your parents.' 'Of course!' said the monk. 'Then I ask you, before you got these original clothes from your parents, what kind of clothes did you have?' Upon hearing this, the naked monk went deep into Samadhi, then into Nirvana and died.

Everyone was very surprised and sad. But when the monk's body was cremated, many Sarira appeared, so everyone thought, 'Ah, this was a great monk.' Sitting on the high rostrum, Lin Chi hit the stand with his Zen stick and said, 'Form is emptiness, emptiness is form.' He hit it again, 'No form, no emptiness.' He hit it a third time, 'Form is form, emptiness is emptiness. Which one is correct?' Nobody understood. Then the Zen Master shouted 'KATZ!' and said, 'The sky is blue, the tree is green.' If you cannot answer in one word the question about your original clothes, then, although you can get Samadhi and Nirvana, you cannot get freedom from life and death."
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So now evil is greater than good. Jesus is a being that was never created who incarnated to defeat the very evil u speak about. Not even death could keep hold of him. Yet u think because some people that have a bad idea of what it is to be Christian will transform this good to evil is insane. Jesus explained very clearly in the temple when the Jews where speaking about following the ways of God and Moses that they were in fact following the devil. U see, when one does bad things wether in the name of Jesus, Allah, Moses ... Etc u actually are doing them in the name of your self and the one who started it all, Lucifer. There is no magical negative energy going out transforming God. What is being transformed is ur own heart which I'd following more in the ways of the devil which transforms this world through ur physical actions. All Jesus has to do is twinkle his eyes and he can destroy all evil.

The historical Jesus may well have been a holy man. Certainly the Sermon on the Mount and other writings attest to high spiritual level. But he was not coextensive with the godhead -- at least no more than any other being. To worship a man as a god is a grave error if not an out and out sin.

I would also differentiate somehow between the "Jesus" thoughtform and the "Christ" consciousness, which is far more advanced form of spirituality.
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In "The Dialogue of the Savior" Jesus says that "Indeed, it is even difficult for me to reach it."
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So now evil is greater than good. Jesus is a being that was never created who incarnated to defeat the very evil u speak about. Not even death could keep hold of him. Yet u think because some people that have a bad idea of what it is to be Christian will transform this good to evil is insane. Jesus explained very clearly in the temple when the Jews where speaking about following the ways of God and Moses that they were in fact following the devil. U see, when one does bad things wether in the name of Jesus, Allah, Moses ... Etc u actually are doing them in the name of your self and the one who started it all, Lucifer. There is no magical negative energy going out transforming God. What is being transformed is ur own heart which I'd following more in the ways of the devil which transforms this world through ur physical actions. All Jesus has to do is twinkle his eyes and he can destroy all evil.

The historical Jesus may well have been a holy man. Certainly the Sermon on the Mount and other writings attest to high spiritual level. But he was not coextensive with the godhead -- at least no more than any other being. To worship a man as a god is a grave error if not an out and out sin.

I would also differentiate somehow between the "Jesus" thoughtform and the "Christ" consciousness, which is far more advanced form of spirituality.

In "The Dialogue of the Savior" Jesus says that "Indeed, it is even difficult for me to reach it."
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"Christ" consciousness is a new age mind-fuck
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apparently all demons answer to jesus
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apparently all demons answer to jesus
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this is because he, apparently can 'torment' them. Naturally the demons do not want to be tormented, so they obey.
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Op your are correct in part. There is more than one Jesus thought form. Different sects of christianity have different thought forms that they have created. I read Aura. the energy field that surrounds the body. There are proximately 144 layer. I have on many occasions seen being hooked into people energy field that have claimed to be Jesus. they are for the most part lower astral entities and thought forms. The sad part about it is that people end up getting controlled by them. Especially if they try to leave the particular faith associated with the thought form or entity. There are older more powerful thought forms than the ones christians are plugging into. rken
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