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Lucifer is Venus People! Not the devil

 
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In Latin Lucifer means “Light Bringer” and is the name of the Morning Star. The word Lucifer appears only once in the Bible and only in the KJV. Isaiah 14:12: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”

But did the word Lucifer always exist? NO! In the Hebrew language, the word Lucifer is derived from the Hebrew word הילל (Hêlēl). In fact, the term Lucifer didn’t even exist in the Biblical ages! Put thought to it; Lucifer is a Latin word. (Lux = light/fire Ferre = to bear/to bring). The Old Testament was written primarily in Hebrew, so the word Lucifer could not have been in their language. So, then if the word were not amongst them at that time, then who gave us that word?

In 382 AD, Pope Damasus I commissioned St. Jerome to write a revision of the old Latin translation of the Bible. This task was completed sometime during the 5th century AD, and eventually it was considered the official and definite Latin version of the Bible according to the Roman Catholic church. By the 13th century it was considered the versio vulgate – the common translation.

The irony for those who believe that "Lucifer" refers to Satan is that the same title ('morning star' or 'light-bearer') is used to refer to Jesus, in 2 Peter 1:19, where the Greek text has exactly the same term: 'phos-phoros' 'light-bearer.' This is also the term used for Jesus in Revelation 22:16.
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And don't women get a bad name in certain places.Seriously there are descriptions of Venus arriving in the solar system.
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Your research needs to be tweeked. In the New Testament Jesus says, "Behold, I saw Lucifer fall from the sky like a lightning bolt." Still, your comments about the same phrase referring to both Jesus and Lucifer is quite true. Non-biblical sources refer to them as sort of brothers: I recall that Lucifer in the Old Testament was the closest being to the Godhead. After he fell his name was changed to Satan. Continue to share your thoughts.
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Yes, this video goes into the Pentagram of Venus . What the orbit is in the stars.

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Your research needs to be tweeked. In the New Testament Jesus says, "Behold, I saw Lucifer fall from the sky like a lightning bolt." Still, your comments about the same phrase referring to both Jesus and Lucifer is quite true. Non-biblical sources refer to them as sort of brothers: I recall that Lucifer in the Old Testament was the closest being to the Godhead. After he fell his name was changed to Satan. Continue to share your thoughts.
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Yes, BOTH Jesus and Lucifer is called the Morningstar in the Bible
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Theres a special airing next week on History channel, that the Statue of Liberty is Lucifer, As Lucifer is considered a Hermaphrodite (both man and woman) Like Hermes/Mercury
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Your research needs to be tweeked. In the New Testament Jesus says, "Behold, I saw Lucifer fall from the sky like a lightning bolt." Still, your comments about the same phrase referring to both Jesus and Lucifer is quite true. Non-biblical sources refer to them as sort of brothers: I recall that Lucifer in the Old Testament was the closest being to the Godhead. After he fell his name was changed to Satan. Continue to share your thoughts.
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And your post needs to be "tweaked" to


Satan and Lucifer are two different individuals


Unlike Lucifer ,Satan isn't even a "Fallen Angel",

He's a prosecutor in Gods court , the only reason we consider him an enemy is because we're the ones on trial.

( The name "Satan" literally means "Accuser" )

So all those clowns who've been worshiping Satan...congratulations , your "God" is a Lawyer who's trying to convict you.
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Your research needs to be tweeked. In the New Testament Jesus says, "Behold, I saw Lucifer fall from the sky like a lightning bolt." Still, your comments about the same phrase referring to both Jesus and Lucifer is quite true. Non-biblical sources refer to them as sort of brothers: I recall that Lucifer in the Old Testament was the closest being to the Godhead. After he fell his name was changed to Satan. Continue to share your thoughts.




And your post needs to be "tweaked" to


Satan and Lucifer are two different individuals


Unlike Lucifer ,Satan isn't even a "Fallen Angel",

He's a prosecutor in Gods court , the only reason we consider him an enemy is because we're the ones on trial.

( The name "Satan" literally means "Accuser" )

So all those clowns who've been worshiping Satan...congratulations , your "God" is a Lawyer who's trying to convict you.
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Thats all the Jews considered him to be, yes, Another one of G-ds angels sent to test people.

Its only Christians and Satanists that created something entirely different out of it.
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Got the date wrong, Statue of Liberty is Lucifer special on now, History channel.
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Lucifer is just as Christ, they're one in the same.

Light bringers for man to wake up and enLIGHTen themselves.

A true gift sent by the true Spirit of God.

Not the god of this earth (satan), but the god of the Divine Spirit.

The god of this earth has brainwashed the religious people into fearing the bringer of the light (Lucifer/Christ) with nonsense of the second coming to be the "antichrist".

Of course he did, he fears the second coming and wants you to side with him and not the true light.

Lucifer and Christ are the same spiritual entity, the same bright and morning star, like Jesus has clearly stated!
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True dat.hf
Good find OP.
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I was thinking the same thing, Lucy and Satan are not the same thing.
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Ve Nus

%Sun + Eve%

or
V = 1
e = 1/2

1 div 2 = half a Nus...Noose, shrug

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Lucifer is just as Christ, they're one in the same.

Light bringers for man to wake up and enLIGHTen themselves.

A true gift sent by the true Spirit of God.

Not the god of this earth (satan), but the god of the Divine Spirit.

The god of this earth has brainwashed the religious people into fearing the bringer of the light (Lucifer/Christ) with nonsense of the second coming to be the "antichrist".

Of course he did, he fears the second coming and wants you to side with him and not the true light.

Lucifer and Christ are the same spiritual entity, the same bright and morning star, like Jesus has clearly stated!
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You don't know shit op neither does anyone else
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Lucifer is the devil,the goat's head created by God who happens to be CHrist. Venus is just some dumbass spirit who sold themselves to lucifer so they could become a god. It worked for the most part but the downside is they living alone in space.
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The deception to the "christians"

They've been got!

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Golly, you're gettin smarter all the time.
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Thread: I'm Lucifer, the lightbearer - ask me a question!
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David dIcke is that you? Come to post some more disinfo?
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And after the straws ? You win everything ...
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And after the cant see who is who space life blur you have to give a little back somewhere in space... Ofzo
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Lucifer is something else entirely.

However, only the initiated will know.
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Venus, Isis, Columbia, ect... is Lucifer's MOTHER.
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•Jesus's PREEXISTENCE
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•God is love, turn to Him otherwise you will perish …
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•Have you received the Holy Spirit?
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•Have you?
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•Satan’s Lie: Bible is the Word of God
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•The word of God is Spirit not Scriptures
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•Why the Bible IS NOT the Word of God
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•JESUS is the Word of God NOT the Bible || 100% Proof From Scripture
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•Exposing BOGUS “proof-texts” that ''Jesus isn’t GOD''.
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•Sodom & Gomorrah (were destroyed by The Lord)
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•Jesus Christ
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•Jesus Is The Father, Son and Holy Spirit?
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•100% PROOF: JESUS CHRIST IS GOD
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•Why are both Jesus and Satan referred to as the morning star?
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Jesus Christ IS the TRUE lucifer (morning star, light bringer)
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•WARNING - BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT
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… … … .
JESUS IS COMING! ARE YOU READY?
JESUS is COMING for THOSE who KNOW HIM, LOVE HIM and OBEY HIM.
ONLY Jesus Christ can give you ETERNAL LIFE, nobody else.
Jesus Christ gives the HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE to those who BELIEVE in Him and OBEY Him.
IT IS ALL ABOUT JESUS. If YOU do not know Jesus and He does not KNOW and approve of you, you are doomed.
PREPARE TO MEET JESUS the RIGHTEOUS JUDGE!
HOW TO KNOW JESUS?
Go on your knees, HUMBLE YOURSELF, CRY OUT to Jesus. PLEAD FOR FORGIVENESS of your past sins and ASK Jesus to come into your heart. REPENT, turn away from all sin. CRY OUT UNTIL you KNOW that Jesus has forgiven you and accepted you, UNTIL He gives you PEACE and JOY.
[If you are not serious about turning away from sin, being Holy and OBEYING Jesus, being pleasing to Him then this is not for you.]
HOW TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE GOT THROUGH TO JESUS?
You will immediately have the assurance and confirmation in your heart. You will be changed inside, will feel NEW, WASHED, CLEAN. You will have PEACE and JOY like never before in your life. You will know Jesus is IN YOU and Jesus is ALIVE.
WHAT NEXT?
Firm up your RELATIONSHIP with Jesus. Clean up your life. Get rid of all sin. Pray and Jesus will show you in your heart, what to stop doing. Read the words of Jesus in the gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and DO them, OBEY.
BE BAPTIZED IN WATER FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS AS JESUS COMMANDED: ‘He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. “HE WHO HAS BELIEVED AND HAS BEEN BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.”’ Mark 16:15,16. [Any true follower of Jesus can baptize you in water – you don’t need to go to a church.]
SEEK THE BAPTISM IN THE HOLY SPIRIT that Jesus promised to those who love Him.
IT IS ALL ABOUT JESUS and YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM, KNOWING HIM, BEING PLEASING TO HIM.
SEEK JESUS – KNOW HIM, FOLLOW HIM,
BE PURE, BE HOLY, BE READY!
SIN NO MORE.
WARNINGS:
DON’T look to people for answers. Pray, Jesus will answer you.
DON”T go to church, go to Jesus.
DON’T follow people or “Christians” Do not make take people for role models. Pray, seek Jesus, He will show you.
NEVER stop following Jesus. What ever happens ALWAYS GO BACK TO JESUS. NEVER GIVE UP UNTIL THE END.
[Jesus]
Heb 2:9
2:9 {6} But we {l} see Jesus, who was made a little {m} lower than the angels {7} for the {n} suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should {o} taste death for {8} every man.
(6) The answer: this is already fulfilled in Jesus Christ our head, who was temporarily for our sakes inferior to the angels, being made man: but now is advanced into most high glory.
(l) By his virtue and power which appears revealed in the Church.
(m) Who abased Himself for a time, and took the position of a servant.
(7) He shows the cause of this subjection, that is, to taste death for our sakes, that in so doing the part of a redeemer, He might not only be our Prophet and King, but also our High Priest.
(n) That he might die.
(o) Feel death.
(8) In this exists the force of the argument: for we could not eventually be glorified with him, unless he was abased for us, even for all the elect. By this event the apostle comes to the other part of the declaration of Christ’s person, in which He proved him to be God and also man.
It is written about Jesus by the Prophet Isaiah: ”Unto us a SON is given, a Child is born and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
||Jesus is most certainly the Living God!||
”For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are One.”
—1 John 5:7
”I and the Father are One.”
— John 10:30
"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
— John 8:58
8 But of the Son He says,
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever,
the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
— Hebrews 1:8
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon ME whom they have (pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn.
— Zechariah 12:10
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with GOD:
7 But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
— Philippians 2:5-11 (Letters From Prison)
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
— Revelation 19:16
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Let us examine the Scripture on important issues of eternal consequence.
A. Jesus Christ is The Way The Truth and The Life
John 14:6
“Jesus said unto him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto the Father, But by Me.”
Acts 4:12
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven giving among men, whereby we must be saved."
1 John 5:11-13
11 “And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe in the name of the Son of God.”
The Bible reveals clearly that the Godhead is made up of three separate Persons, each distinct from the other. The first is called God the Father, the second is God the Son and the third is God the Holy Spirit. These three separate Persons make up the one God that we serve. Each one of these three Persons is God in all fullness. No one is greater than the others. The three Persons are united in one and there can be no separation. Each one of these three is the Creator, the Lord, and the eternal God. Yet we do not have three Creators, Lords, or eternal Gods, but One. The Scripture says:
"And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear O Israel; The Lord our God is One Lord."Mark 12:29
God the Son came to the world in human form. His name was called Jesus Christ. He came to save mankind from sin and to restore man to eternal life with God.
John 1:1-3, 10, 14
1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew him not.
14 And the Word (Jesus) was made flesh and dwelled among us (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth.”
Matthew 1:21-23
21 “And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call His name JESUS: for He shall save His people from their sins.
22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
23 Behold a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
Your eyes now have opened clearly to the One that suffered because of your sins, the One that was crucified on the cross, that died, was buried and rose from death on the third day; the One that gave the commission that the gospel be preached in all the world to make people believe on Him for the forgiveness of their sins and the salvation of their souls; the One that went back to heaven and promised that He would be coming back to the world to take His true believers to be with Him and to condemn rebellious sinners to everlasting hell fire, prepared for Satan and his angels. Your eyes have opened clearly to who JESUS is — our Lord and our God.
John 20: 27-29
27 “Then said He to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold My hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into My side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto Him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus said unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
There is no Salvation in any Other Religion or Belief
All those who seek the salvation of their souls through other religions or persons (saints, prophets, masters, etc.) can never find true salvation and can never enter into heaven.
John 10:8-11
To reject Jesus is to reject the God of your life. To reject Jesus means you have chosen to go to hell and be damned forever along with Satan and his subjects.
Special Adoration or Worship of Any Saint is Idolatry
There are those who exalt, adore and worship Mary the earthly mother of Jesus. They pray to her or through her. They also adore some dead saints and pray to them or through them. The Bible has this to say of such people:
Romans 1:20-22,
"Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and He will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon."
Psalm 51:1, 2
1 “Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy loving-kindness: according unto the multitudes of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions
2 Wash me thoroughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.”
Thirdly, Jesus Christ is the Saviour from sin. You cannot stop sinning by your power without Him. Welcome Him into your life to give you the power to overcome sin. When Jesus comes into your life He will save you from sin and give you the power of righteousness. Apart from Him there is no other one and no other way.
Acts 16:30, 31
30 “And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
2 Corinthians 5:17
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."
When you give your life to Jesus Christ your sins are forgiven and you have a new life from God. Your name enters into the book of life in heaven. Surely, you will not want to start committing new sins and to get your name removed from the book of life. You must determine to continue in Christ by living a righteous life every day to the end of your life on earth. The Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth, obey Him. Do not be afraid of man and be not ashamed of following Jesus. Dissociate from evil friends, relationships and associations.
1 John 3:9, 10
9 “Whosoever is born of God doth no commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.”
Colossians 2:6-8
6 “As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in Him.
7 Rooted and built up in Him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.”
Water Baptism
Having given your life to Jesus Christ, you will need to submit yourself to water baptism. Water baptism follows repentance and faith on the Lord Jesus Christ.
Acts 8:35-39
35 “Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.”
The scriptural water baptism is one immersion into water in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 28:19
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."
Water baptism is not for ignorant and unconverted children, nor for unrepentant adult. Those who were baptized when they were still sinners need to be baptized when they truly repent and give their lives to Jesus Christ. The apostles practiced water baptism according to the instruction given to them by the Lord Jesus Christ.
Acts 2:38
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
Baptism in the name of Jesus Christ as seen in the above passage and in other passages in Acts of the Apostles means baptism as instructed or authorised by Jesus Christ.
Baptism With the Holy Ghost
Baptism with the Holy Ghost or the gift of the Holy Ghost is the coming of the Holy Spirit upon a believer in baptismal measure for the purpose of filling him with power for effective Christian service. All believers are promised the baptism with the Holy Spirit by God. This is received by prayer and faith on God’s promises.
Acts 1:8
"But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."
Luke 11:13
"If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask Him."
The scriptural evidence of baptism with the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues as the Spirit inspires.
Acts 2:4
"And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."
Acts 10:44-46
44 “While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God.”
Speaking in tongues as evidence of baptism with the Holy Spirit is given to every believer who is baptized with the Holy Spirit for the purpose of prayer and personal edification.
Ezekiel 33:14-16
14 “Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he hath robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.”
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You MUST be Born Again
You cannot educate a slave into royalty because he was born a slave and even if you put him in a palace he will still be a slave because in his heart he is a slave. You cannot educate a sinner and make him a child of God because he was born into the slavery of sin. Jesus said that he who sins is a slave of sin.
You need to be BORN AGAIN, you need to be BORN INTO ROYALTY, you need to be BORN INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD or else, AT HEART YOU WILL ALWAYS REMAIN A SLAVE OF SIN. You cannot educate a person to be a child of God, he needs to be born again and that is what Jesus meant when He said to Nicodemus, as it is written in John 3:3-8 “Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, UNLESS ONE IS BORN AGAIN HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.” 4Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born, can he?” 5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, UNLESS ONE IS BORN OF WATER AND THE SPIRIT HE CANNOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD. 6“That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7“Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8“The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
A person who is born again of the Spirit of God IS A NEW MAN. The world does not understand him and that is why Jesus said he is like the wind, you don’t know where it comes from and where it is going next because that person is led by the Spirit of God. He can see the kingdom of God.
If you are not born again you cannot visualize, you cannot understand the kingdom of God, you are not of the kingdom of God, you are not royalty, YOU ARE A SINNER. You need to be BORN AGAIN!
He who is in Christ is a NEW MAN, the old things have passed away, HE IS NOT A SLAVE OF SIN ANY MORE, he is royalty, he is a child of God, HE IS A SAINT.
Have you been born again? Do you want to be born again and become a child of God? Then you must REPENT, you must FALL ON YOUR KNEES AND CRY OUT TO JESUS. Say:”Lord, I want You to be my Lord and Master. I don’t want to be a slave of sin any more! Please set me free from the bondage of sin! I don’t want to live the life of a sinner any more! I want to be a child of God!” Jesus will set you free. He will forgive your past sins and He will set you free from the bondage of sin and addiction. He will make you royalty, He will make you born again! He will make you a child of God, and then you have to go and bury the old man, you must go and be baptized in water so that the old man of sin can be buried under the water and out of it comes a new man, a new creature in Christ and then you ask Him to baptize you in the HOLY SPIRIT, to FILL YOU WITH THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST! If you do not have the Spirit of Christ, you do not belong to Him.
If you are in Christ you are NEW! You are not of the world any more, you are a different person. You cannot help but be a witness for Jesus because you are filled with the Spirit of God!
Have you been born again? Or have you just been educated? It is not about education, it is about REGENERATION. Have you been regenerated? Are you NEW INSIDE? Ask Jesus for the NEW BIRTH and He will change you inside, HE WILL MAKE YOU ROYALTY, He will make you a child of God.
YOU must be born again to enter the kingdom of Heaven!
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JESUS IS COMING! ARE YOU READY?
JESUS is COMING for THOSE who KNOW HIM, LOVE HIM and OBEY HIM.
ONLY Jesus Christ can give you ETERNAL LIFE, nobody else.
Jesus Christ gives the HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE to those who BELIEVE in Him and OBEY Him.
IT IS ALL ABOUT JESUS. If YOU do not know Jesus and He does not KNOW and approve of you, you are doomed.
PREPARE TO MEET JESUS the RIGHTEOUS JUDGE!
HOW TO KNOW JESUS?
Go on your knees, HUMBLE YOURSELF, CRY OUT to Jesus. PLEAD FOR FORGIVENESS of your past sins and ASK Jesus to come into your heart. REPENT, turn away from all sin. CRY OUT UNTIL you KNOW that Jesus has forgiven you and accepted you, UNTIL He gives you PEACE and JOY.
[If you are not serious about turning away from sin, being Holy and OBEYING Jesus, being pleasing to Him then this is not for you.]
HOW TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE GOT THROUGH TO JESUS?
You will immediately have the assurance and confirmation in your heart. You will be changed inside, will feel NEW, WASHED, CLEAN. You will have PEACE and JOY like never before in your life. You will know Jesus is IN YOU and Jesus is ALIVE.
WHAT NEXT?
Firm up your RELATIONSHIP with Jesus. Clean up your life. Get rid of all sin. Pray and Jesus will show you in your heart, what to stop doing. Read the words of Jesus in the gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and DO them, OBEY.
BE BAPTIZED IN WATER FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS AS JESUS COMMANDED: ‘He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. “HE WHO HAS BELIEVED AND HAS BEEN BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.”’ Mark 16:15,16. [Any true follower of Jesus can baptize you in water – you don’t need to go to a church.]
SEEK THE BAPTISM IN THE HOLY SPIRIT that Jesus promised to those who love Him.
IT IS ALL ABOUT JESUS and YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM, KNOWING HIM, BEING PLEASING TO HIM.
SEEK JESUS – KNOW HIM, FOLLOW HIM,
BE PURE, BE HOLY, BE READY!
SIN NO MORE.
WARNINGS:
DON’T look to people for answers. Pray, Jesus will answer you.
DON”T go to church, go to Jesus.
DON’T follow people or “Christians” Do not make take people for role models. Pray, seek Jesus, He will show you.
NEVER stop following Jesus. What ever happens ALWAYS GO BACK TO JESUS. NEVER GIVE UP UNTIL THE END.
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Heb 2:9
2:9 {6} But we {l} see Jesus, who was made a little {m} lower than the angels {7} for the {n} suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should {o} taste death for {8} every man.
(6) The answer: this is already fulfilled in Jesus Christ our head, who was temporarily for our sakes inferior to the angels, being made man: but now is advanced into most high glory.
(l) By his virtue and power which appears revealed in the Church.
(m) Who abased Himself for a time, and took the position of a servant.
(7) He shows the cause of this subjection, that is, to taste death for our sakes, that in so doing the part of a redeemer, He might not only be our Prophet and King, but also our High Priest.
(n) That he might die.
(o) Feel death.
(8) In this exists the force of the argument: for we could not eventually be glorified with him, unless he was abased for us, even for all the elect. By this event the apostle comes to the other part of the declaration of Christ’s person, in which He proved him to be God and also man.
It is written about Jesus by the Prophet Isaiah: ”Unto us a SON is given, a Child is born and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
||Jesus is most certainly the Living God!||
”For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are One.”
—1 John 5:7
”I and the Father are One.”
— John 10:30
"Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
— John 8:58
8 But of the Son He says,
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever,
the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
— Hebrews 1:8
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon ME whom they have (pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn.
— Zechariah 12:10
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with GOD:
7 But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
— Philippians 2:5-11 (Letters From Prison)
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
— Revelation 19:16
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Let us examine the Scripture on important issues of eternal consequence.
A. Jesus Christ is The Way The Truth and The Life
John 14:6
“Jesus said unto him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto the Father, But by Me.”
Acts 4:12
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven giving among men, whereby we must be saved."
1 John 5:11-13
11 “And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe in the name of the Son of God.”
The Bible reveals clearly that the Godhead is made up of three separate Persons, each distinct from the other. The first is called God the Father, the second is God the Son and the third is God the Holy Spirit. These three separate Persons make up the one God that we serve. Each one of these three Persons is God in all fullness. No one is greater than the others. The three Persons are united in one and there can be no separation. Each one of these three is the Creator, the Lord, and the eternal God. Yet we do not have three Creators, Lords, or eternal Gods, but One. The Scripture says:
"And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear O Israel; The Lord our God is One Lord."Mark 12:29
God the Son came to the world in human form. His name was called Jesus Christ. He came to save mankind from sin and to restore man to eternal life with God.
John 1:1-3, 10, 14
1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew him not.
14 And the Word (Jesus) was made flesh and dwelled among us (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth.”
Matthew 1:21-23
21 “And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call His name JESUS: for He shall save His people from their sins.
22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
23 Behold a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
Your eyes now have opened clearly to the One that suffered because of your sins, the One that was crucified on the cross, that died, was buried and rose from death on the third day; the One that gave the commission that the gospel be preached in all the world to make people believe on Him for the forgiveness of their sins and the salvation of their souls; the One that went back to heaven and promised that He would be coming back to the world to take His true believers to be with Him and to condemn rebellious sinners to everlasting hell fire, prepared for Satan and his angels. Your eyes have opened clearly to who JESUS is — our Lord and our God.
John 20: 27-29
27 “Then said He to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold My hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into My side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto Him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus said unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen Me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
There is no Salvation in any Other Religion or Belief
All those who seek the salvation of their souls through other religions or persons (saints, prophets, masters, etc.) can never find true salvation and can never enter into heaven.
John 10:8-11
To reject Jesus is to reject the God of your life. To reject Jesus means you have chosen to go to hell and be damned forever along with Satan and his subjects.
Special Adoration or Worship of Any Saint is Idolatry
There are those who exalt, adore and worship Mary the earthly mother of Jesus. They pray to her or through her. They also adore some dead saints and pray to them or through them. The Bible has this to say of such people:
Romans 1:20-22,
"Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and He will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon."
Psalm 51:1, 2
1 “Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy loving-kindness: according unto the multitudes of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions
2 Wash me thoroughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.”
Thirdly, Jesus Christ is the Saviour from sin. You cannot stop sinning by your power without Him. Welcome Him into your life to give you the power to overcome sin. When Jesus comes into your life He will save you from sin and give you the power of righteousness. Apart from Him there is no other one and no other way.
Acts 16:30, 31
30 “And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
2 Corinthians 5:17
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."
When you give your life to Jesus Christ your sins are forgiven and you have a new life from God. Your name enters into the book of life in heaven. Surely, you will not want to start committing new sins and to get your name removed from the book of life. You must determine to continue in Christ by living a righteous life every day to the end of your life on earth. The Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth, obey Him. Do not be afraid of man and be not ashamed of following Jesus. Dissociate from evil friends, relationships and associations.
1 John 3:9, 10
9 “Whosoever is born of God doth no commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.”
Colossians 2:6-8
6 “As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in Him.
7 Rooted and built up in Him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.”
Water Baptism
Having given your life to Jesus Christ, you will need to submit yourself to water baptism. Water baptism follows repentance and faith on the Lord Jesus Christ.
Acts 8:35-39
35 “Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.”
The scriptural water baptism is one immersion into water in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 28:19
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost."
Water baptism is not for ignorant and unconverted children, nor for unrepentant adult. Those who were baptized when they were still sinners need to be baptized when they truly repent and give their lives to Jesus Christ. The apostles practiced water baptism according to the instruction given to them by the Lord Jesus Christ.
Acts 2:38
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
Baptism in the name of Jesus Christ as seen in the above passage and in other passages in Acts of the Apostles means baptism as instructed or authorised by Jesus Christ.
Baptism With the Holy Ghost
Baptism with the Holy Ghost or the gift of the Holy Ghost is the coming of the Holy Spirit upon a believer in baptismal measure for the purpose of filling him with power for effective Christian service. All believers are promised the baptism with the Holy Spirit by God. This is received by prayer and faith on God’s promises.
Acts 1:8
"But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."
Luke 11:13
"If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask Him."
The scriptural evidence of baptism with the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues as the Spirit inspires.
Acts 2:4
"And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."
Acts 10:44-46
44 “While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God.”
Speaking in tongues as evidence of baptism with the Holy Spirit is given to every believer who is baptized with the Holy Spirit for the purpose of prayer and personal edification.
Ezekiel 33:14-16
14 “Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he hath robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
16 None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.”
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You MUST be Born Again
You cannot educate a slave into royalty because he was born a slave and even if you put him in a palace he will still be a slave because in his heart he is a slave. You cannot educate a sinner and make him a child of God because he was born into the slavery of sin. Jesus said that he who sins is a slave of sin.
You need to be BORN AGAIN, you need to be BORN INTO ROYALTY, you need to be BORN INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD or else, AT HEART YOU WILL ALWAYS REMAIN A SLAVE OF SIN. You cannot educate a person to be a child of God, he needs to be born again and that is what Jesus meant when He said to Nicodemus, as it is written in John 3:3-8 “Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, UNLESS ONE IS BORN AGAIN HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.” 4Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born, can he?” 5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, UNLESS ONE IS BORN OF WATER AND THE SPIRIT HE CANNOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD. 6“That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7“Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8“The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
A person who is born again of the Spirit of God IS A NEW MAN. The world does not understand him and that is why Jesus said he is like the wind, you don’t know where it comes from and where it is going next because that person is led by the Spirit of God. He can see the kingdom of God.
If you are not born again you cannot visualize, you cannot understand the kingdom of God, you are not of the kingdom of God, you are not royalty, YOU ARE A SINNER. You need to be BORN AGAIN!
He who is in Christ is a NEW MAN, the old things have passed away, HE IS NOT A SLAVE OF SIN ANY MORE, he is royalty, he is a child of God, HE IS A SAINT.
Have you been born again? Do you want to be born again and become a child of God? Then you must REPENT, you must FALL ON YOUR KNEES AND CRY OUT TO JESUS. Say:”Lord, I want You to be my Lord and Master. I don’t want to be a slave of sin any more! Please set me free from the bondage of sin! I don’t want to live the life of a sinner any more! I want to be a child of God!” Jesus will set you free. He will forgive your past sins and He will set you free from the bondage of sin and addiction. He will make you royalty, He will make you born again! He will make you a child of God, and then you have to go and bury the old man, you must go and be baptized in water so that the old man of sin can be buried under the water and out of it comes a new man, a new creature in Christ and then you ask Him to baptize you in the HOLY SPIRIT, to FILL YOU WITH THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST! If you do not have the Spirit of Christ, you do not belong to Him.
If you are in Christ you are NEW! You are not of the world any more, you are a different person. You cannot help but be a witness for Jesus because you are filled with the Spirit of God!
Have you been born again? Or have you just been educated? It is not about education, it is about REGENERATION. Have you been regenerated? Are you NEW INSIDE? Ask Jesus for the NEW BIRTH and He will change you inside, HE WILL MAKE YOU ROYALTY, He will make you a child of God.
YOU must be born again to enter the kingdom of Heaven!
May Jesus bless you.
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DID YOU KNOW VENUS WAS DIRECTLY OVER THE FLAG OF

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Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes."
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