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ILLUMINATI discussion . Statue of Liberty IS LUCIFER. !!! says History Channel.*****

 
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Yes...

This is all building up to the unveiling of what many of us already know. Jesus was "Lucifer".

The Illumanati are actually the "good guys" and it's the consumers whom are the devils, the devolved, the degenerates. Illumanati have divine decree to rule over the intellectual mammals mistakenly called humans on this planet.



In marketing its all in Supply and Demand, yes,

So if they want porn and more, they get it, So true.

The veil is ready to be parted: From Darkness to Light...



There is no "The Veil" -- only your veil. No one parts it for you.



Yes the veil into my Holy of Holies, is that my Higher self?




As above so below. Better to seek within than without. Your eyes are to the sky, but you should already know that the entire sky and all of it's stars are within you, and you might see them better with your eyes closed.

When you are willing to suffer unconditionally for Love you've made it, and you need to seek no further.

Venerable peace.
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Nice ! by zodiac, Im a lamb/ram So I think I can suffer, lol..

Yes, Im a accomplished fair astrologer, as Above So Below, I found a Star of David in chart and Cross alignment, and amongst the path found a cube.

2010 and the Earth in center of a Planetary cross on June 26 brought me to a very low point.

Uranus and Jupiter is hitting my chart hard this year.

So its all within as well?

Im still looking for the day...Im still seeking one more confirmation I guess. Its hard to explain. ..lol.
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Depends if we are talking about man made law or Divine Law. From where I am sitting us bees are waking up and realising that we arent actually bees but have been conned and decieved through history to serve these man made laws that have actually been marketed as Divine Laws.
Oh and where does the Rule of Love come into all of this or was this deleted from the bot program along with empathy, kindness, respect and consideration for our fellow man!!
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The rule of love comes when the law is written in our hearts?

There is no honey without them bees. And words (logos) are sweet as honey.
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I hope my friend comes back,

Another Enlightened One back in 2007 looked at my birthchart and told me, "All is well" and he asked me to not forget what the Unicorn and the Washington Monument stood for, and then he was gone,

What a gift, they are so wise. hf

But I admit, Im looking up too much at the stars lately and not enough within...

I need to do that more.
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Please come back...I just have a few more questions. My work has been solo for so long.

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Im getting tired....lol

May it come: Consummatum Est
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yes most answers are from within although sometimes the answers are not what we may like but none the less they are what they are

i cant wait till its fully out in the open and everyone knows the light of Lucifer

its coming soon oh so very soon
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yes most answers are from within although sometimes the answers are not what we may like but none the less they are what they are

i cant wait till its fully out in the open and everyone knows the light of Lucifer

its coming soon oh so very soon
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Yes, thats why my friend parted when he did, Thats what the Elder Enlightened always do, they give you the answer , what you need, not the one you may want, but the one you need.

You are on the road to wisdom , Very good.
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Yes, thats why my friend parted when he did, Thats what the Elder Enlightened always do, they give you the answer , what you need, not the one you may want, but the one you need.

You are on the road to wisdom , Very good.
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if your not on the road to wisdom all else is little more than fairy tales and nightmares empty threats and promises that cause more darkness and fear
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Yes, thats why my friend parted when he did, Thats what the Elder Enlightened always do, they give you the answer , what you need, not the one you may want, but the one you need.

You are on the road to wisdom , Very good.


if your not on the road to wisdom all else is little more than fairy tales and nightmares empty threats and promises that cause more darkness and fear
 Quoting: Son of the Morning



Most definately, And I wouldnt want to live like that, Have you seen those type of posts? the Anti Illuminati posts? It just vibes with that negativity , anger and fear.

When you get a REAL illum online, they speak gently and profound knowledge of the heart and hope.
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Yes...

This is all building up to the unveiling of what many of us already know. Jesus was "Lucifer".

The Illumanati are actually the "good guys" and it's the consumers whom are the devils, the devolved, the degenerates. Illumanati have divine decree to rule over the intellectual mammals mistakenly called humans on this planet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1142906


I'm just as guilty with this polarized thinking. But thats part of the programming right?!?

So we are having reverse day in school and it doesnt matter that us devolved degenerates suffer because we are the 'bad guys'!!!

Pffftttt 'illuminated' ones indeed. Illuminated to a knowledge that teaches you how to control and manipulate the populace through vile means to do your bidding so you can feel self important and fill your lives with fakeness and your own brand of illusion. Oh and your hearts are like ice that you can just flick our switches out when your gods are hungry or we are not surving your purpose anymore.

I feel sorry for you. I pity you your empty loveless lives that you dont feel the richness of spirit that we feel. You souless ones may beLIEve that you own us but you dont own our SOULS or our spirit of life.

When you think you have extinguished us dont we come back even stronger?

You may think that you have kept our earth history away from us but we have a soul history and that is and has never been or ever will be part of your dominion.
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Yes, thats why my friend parted when he did, Thats what the Elder Enlightened always do, they give you the answer , what you need, not the one you may want, but the one you need.

You are on the road to wisdom , Very good.


if your not on the road to wisdom all else is little more than fairy tales and nightmares empty threats and promises that cause more darkness and fear



Most definately, And I wouldnt want to live like that, Have you seen those type of posts? the Anti Illuminati posts? It just vibes with that negativity , anger and fear.

When you get a REAL illum online, they speak gently and profound knowledge of the heart and hope.
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


I am sorry Al if I come on a bit strong in your thread. Yes I am angry at the moment and I am trying hard to move through my anger.

Please 'enlighten' me and tell me that there are more than one kind of illuminati.

Surely you dont all believe in humanity suffering and being wiped out for a selfish materialistic cause?
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TX Gal, you are very beautiful & seem to be a God fearing christian, but why are you naked in your avatar?


TRUE Christians do NOT act like this. They are modest. This girl is constantly asking for attention.


Wow, you people are very JUDGMENTAL. Christians are not supposed to be this way either.

Stop hijacking the OP's thread.


Isn't that "why" you put it out there for?? I mean you do something like "alude" to being naked, and then you get upset about someone making a comment. I mean, REALLY.
Just who do you think is not gonna comment. Give us all a brake.
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she looks hot , if you cant control yourself when you see something that looks nice, go back on your meds
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Yes...

This is all building up to the unveiling of what many of us already know. Jesus was "Lucifer".

The Illumanati are actually the "good guys" and it's the consumers whom are the devils, the devolved, the degenerates. Illumanati have divine decree to rule over the intellectual mammals mistakenly called humans on this planet.


I'm just as guilty with this polarized thinking. But thats part of the programming right?!?

So we are having reverse day in school and it doesnt matter that us devolved degenerates suffer because we are the 'bad guys'!!!

Pffftttt 'illuminated' ones indeed. Illuminated to a knowledge that teaches you how to control and manipulate the populace through vile means to do your bidding so you can feel self important and fill your lives with fakeness and your own brand of illusion. Oh and your hearts are like ice that you can just flick our switches out when your gods are hungry or we are not surving your purpose anymore.

I feel sorry for you. I pity you your empty loveless lives that you dont feel the richness of spirit that we feel. You souless ones may beLIEve that you own us but you dont own our SOULS or our spirit of life.

When you think you have extinguished us dont we come back even stronger?

You may think that you have kept our earth history away from us but we have a soul history and that is and has never been or ever will be part of your dominion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 978245



Hi, I can assure you that the REAL Illuminati is all good.


I feel your pain, I do it. There is a injustice in the world thru poisoned Aspartame sodas, and all kinds of hiding the truth and lagging behind in free energy and freedom overall. And Huge gap between the rich and the poor. Im still trying to trace the meaning of such injustice.

But I can tell you also there exists a loving Paternal side thats too much of a softie that gives the children what they want.

America was begun on a Freemason Foundation. They are Christian/Judaic in the sense of Basic laws and Morality and Messianic vision, and the Wisdom of the Architect of the Universe

However, Like King Solomon, they give the Kingdom freedom of Religion and choices.

Life is all a marketing system, Pornography for example is a billion dollar industry,

Women demanded rights to work out of the home and this might have hurt the economy a bit in the sense that it did make two incomes be the requirement for a comfortable life now rather than one income of the Father.

Divorce is instigated by 75 percent of the wives

Hollywood, Movies, products , Movie Stars, Political influence is all requested and chosen by the people. They also choose Big Pharm as their medicines when natural healing methods are out there

We are more empowered then we think we are,

This world is actually a reflection of the majority, the populace,and we cannot blame anyone else.
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Most definately, And I wouldnt want to live like that, Have you seen those type of posts? the Anti Illuminati posts? It just vibes with that negativity , anger and fear.

When you get a REAL illum online, they speak gently and profound knowledge of the heart and hope.


I am sorry Al if I come on a bit strong in your thread. Yes I am angry at the moment and I am trying hard to move through my anger.

Please 'enlighten' me and tell me that there are more than one kind of illuminati.

Surely you dont all believe in humanity suffering and being wiped out for a selfish materialistic cause?

once you get past the anger you may be able to be more astonished that you didn't get it sooner also your anger is probly do to feeling lied to most of your life from society

if you truly want to know then you need to let go of all preconceived ideas before you find so that when you find you can see more of the picture and in proper context

one example you need to dispatch firefighters and there's only one station and all your men need to be at the train yard because of chemical spill and there's two kids trapped in a burning house where do you send your men .... if you save the kids you kill the whole town and the kids but if the kids die granted someone will try even if no fireman comes however you save the whole town
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once you get past the anger you may be able to be more astonished that you didn't get it sooner also your anger is probly do to feeling lied to most of your life from society

if you truly want to know then you need to let go of all preconceived ideas before you find so that when you find you can see more of the picture and in proper context

one example you need to dispatch firefighters and there's only one station and all your men need to be at the train yard because of chemical spill and there's two kids trapped in a burning house where do you send your men .... if you save the kids you kill the whole town and the kids but if the kids die granted someone will try even if no fireman comes however you save the whole town
 Quoting: Son of the Morning



Ive always believed that my Masonic America has always been good overall. And that they look out to the Greater good.

they do take care of the poor and put in extensive technology in the Police Force to solve crimes, We have clean streets and a generally safe society, There is alot to be grateful for

Our Main religions promote morality and cleanliness.

In India theres occasional human corpses floating down the Ganghes river and people bathe there.

In parts of Africa theres still tribal warfare.
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link to video?
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link to video?
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Hi there, maybe someone put something up. Ill go look.
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i believe that the new world order will actually be more libertarian once the general population has been taught to accept these new beliefs however it will be based more on the common good of all than the interest of a few there will still be countries but countries will be more like states

just my understanding and what Ive seen however there is more than one future we choice which future our children and grand children will live in but no matter which one we choice its a future of the human race at stake not just one nation
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Hi, I can assure you that the REAL Illuminati is all good.


I feel your pain, I do it. There is a injustice in the world thru poisoned Aspartame sodas, and all kinds of hiding the truth and lagging behind in free energy and freedom overall. And Huge gap between the rich and the poor. Im still trying to trace the meaning of such injustice.

But I can tell you also there exists a loving Paternal side thats too much of a softie that gives the children what they want.

America was begun on a Freemason Foundation. They are Christian/Judaic in the sense of Basic laws and Morality and Messianic vision, and the Wisdom of the Architect of the Universe

However, Like King Solomon, they give the Kingdom freedom of Religion and choices.

Life is all a marketing system, Pornography for example is a billion dollar industry,

Women demanded rights to work out of the home and this might have hurt the economy a bit in the sense that it did make two incomes be the requirement for a comfortable life now rather than one income of the Father.

Divorce is instigated by 75 percent of the wives

Hollywood, Movies, products , Movie Stars, Political influence is all requested and chosen by the people. They also choose Big Pharm as their medicines when natural healing methods are out there

We are more empowered then we think we are,

This world is actually a reflection of the majority, the populace,and we cannot blame anyone else.
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


TY Al

There is no sense in no sense thats what I know.

I feel there are different streams of life co-existing along side each other with flows at different speeds or in different directions.

One flow wants to dominate and make the other flows flow in the same direction at the same speed. Another flow doesnt want to go at the same speed but is flowing in the same direction as it is still partially controllable and another flow is frozen as it has become fearful.

There is a flow that hears the rhythm of a different sea calling that can flow effortlessly as it just is.

Well I hope I made sense there lol
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once you get past the anger you may be able to be more astonished that you didn't get it sooner also your anger is probly do to feeling lied to most of your life from society

if you truly want to know then you need to let go of all preconceived ideas before you find so that when you find you can see more of the picture and in proper context

one example you need to dispatch firefighters and there's only one station and all your men need to be at the train yard because of chemical spill and there's two kids trapped in a burning house where do you send your men .... if you save the kids you kill the whole town and the kids but if the kids die granted someone will try even if no fireman comes however you save the whole town
 Quoting: Son of the Morning


Im looking forward to being astonished SoM. My ahh haa moments are always so sweet. Yes anger at the fakeness and false imagery in and of society and the grim fairy tale of illusion that has been spoon fed us for centuries and centuries.

I have let go and see only dark agendas. I obviously havent 'let go and let God' lol
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i was just saying if you let go and see things as they are not as we interpret them then you will see there is a plan for all of this and its not evil its actually quite beautiful if you can see it right and its not evil it just is if you get far enough you can see that some bad things happen to minimize the effects on everyone

just remember everything has to sides to the story and not everyone knows the other story only the one they have been told and most of those stories are fear based

only you can save your self

or as my favorite quote not sure where i got it from

god saves those who save themselves

oh by saving your self i mean becoming ware of who you really are and not falling back into the darkness that is taught to us as light

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once you get past the anger you may be able to be more astonished that you didn't get it sooner also your anger is probly do to feeling lied to most of your life from society

if you truly want to know then you need to let go of all preconceived ideas before you find so that when you find you can see more of the picture and in proper context

one example you need to dispatch firefighters and there's only one station and all your men need to be at the train yard because of chemical spill and there's two kids trapped in a burning house where do you send your men .... if you save the kids you kill the whole town and the kids but if the kids die granted someone will try even if no fireman comes however you save the whole town



Ive always believed that my Masonic America has always been good overall. And that they look out to the Greater good.

they do take care of the poor and put in extensive technology in the Police Force to solve crimes, We have clean streets and a generally safe society, There is alot to be grateful for

Our Main religions promote morality and cleanliness.

In India theres occasional human corpses floating down the Ganghes river and people bathe there.

In parts of Africa theres still tribal warfare.
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


Generalization, generalization and more generalization.

If you think the western world is all about civilization and sharing you are vastly mistaken. Why are people in those so-called "less civilized" countries more happy than we are?

You should visit India or Africa before passing judgements about them.

"Masonic America" also promotes elitism, elitism promotes competition and competition promotes injustice (but also dynamism which made our modern world the way it is). Not all is black or white.
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In parts of Africa theres still tribal warfare.
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In parts of the civilized world there is global warfare and terrorism.
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once you get past the anger you may be able to be more astonished that you didn't get it sooner also your anger is probly do to feeling lied to most of your life from society

if you truly want to know then you need to let go of all preconceived ideas before you find so that when you find you can see more of the picture and in proper context

one example you need to dispatch firefighters and there's only one station and all your men need to be at the train yard because of chemical spill and there's two kids trapped in a burning house where do you send your men .... if you save the kids you kill the whole town and the kids but if the kids die granted someone will try even if no fireman comes however you save the whole town



Ive always believed that my Masonic America has always been good overall. And that they look out to the Greater good.

they do take care of the poor and put in extensive technology in the Police Force to solve crimes, We have clean streets and a generally safe society, There is alot to be grateful for

Our Main religions promote morality and cleanliness.

In India theres occasional human corpses floating down the Ganghes river and people bathe there.

In parts of Africa theres still tribal warfare.


Generalization, generalization and more generalization.

If you think the western world is all about civilization and sharing you are vastly mistaken. Why are people in those so-called "less civilized" countries more happy than we are?

You should visit India or Africa before passing judgements about them.

"Masonic America" also promotes elitism, elitism promotes competition and competition promotes injustice (but also dynamism which made our modern world the way it is). Not all is black or white.
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i agree its not all black and white
if it was that simple there would be less problems in the world but the western world is responsible for the modernization of the world
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i agree its not all black and white
if it was that simple there would be less problems in the world but the western world is responsible for the modernization of the world
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And the modernization of the world is responsible of as much improvements as new problems :)

The modernization is responsible of 'changes' and changes come in all flavors.
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yes changes create chain reactions of different unpredicted unintentional changes

but all in all it will be as it should and will be i personally have faith in my brothers and sisters

not all of them of course but those who care enough and want to make a better world for all i have faith in them
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What you guys see through the name 'Lucifer' is enlightenment.



And enlightenment is by definition uncommunicable. It's personal. Unless the person experience it by himself it's meaningless.

All attempts to bring 'enlightenment' to the world are always polluted somehow because it should remain in the domain of the personal experience. What is true for you might not be for others. The history of the world always demonstrated it.
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What you guys see through the name 'Lucifer' is enlightenment.



And enlightenment is by definition uncommunicable. It's personal. Unless the person experience it by himself it's meaningless.

All attempts to bring 'enlightenment' to the world are always polluted somehow because it should remain in the domain of the personal experience. What is true for you might not be for others. The history of the world always demonstrated it.
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oh yes i agree whats true for me is not true for others
however we can all agree to live and let live and not shove one mans dogma on another man

and live in a spiritual world and not a religious one
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Read Tarot Revelations by Joseph Campbell. It has more truth Ive find than anything and it shows how archetypes work in prophecy
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oh yes i agree whats true for me is not true for others
however we can all agree to live and let live and not shove one mans dogma on another man
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Well I'm not anti-american (love you guys ;) ) But your gov should work on that...

and live in a spiritual world and not a religious one
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I'm sorry if you still believe religions are all bad. Again, it's what WE make of it which is (trying to enlighten the world leads to problems).

Enlightenment can also come through religions. Do you guys have monks in the US?
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Al Mureddin, this is a bit OT, what is your opinion on Crowley and Rudolf Steiner ?

Thank you in advance!

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