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ILLUMINATI discussion . Statue of Liberty IS LUCIFER. !!! says History Channel.*****

 
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In the moon card a Knight is emerging from the waters. It reminds me of King Arthur, the Once and Future King.
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A fair King :)
~Are we there yet?~
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Hmm Interesting! To call it the statue of Liberty, when they the illuminati want to destroy all liberty and freedom that America has written in the constitution. Shouldn't the statue be facing American soil instead of out toward the sea. Or does it mean they want to take America back to Europe.
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Hmm, good question, can anyone answer that? I would think its facing Israel. but they said Europe in the show.
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Yes, wow, I first thought that too, the Fool as the Goal card, to be unburdened and free, without a care in the world.


It could be, that after the dissolution in the unreaveled aspect of God (Ain Soph Aur) - the goal of the mystic/saint path and a voluntarily choice for the right hand adepts a new cycle will start. But not sure on that.
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After the dissolution the mystic is fully immersed in God and all answers come naturally to him (But usually they come mainly through exchange with others. The mystic is mainly a mediator)

"The final and last stage is one of union with the object of love, the one Reality, God. Here the self has been permanently established on a transcendental level and liberated for a new purpose. Filled up with the Divine Will, it immerses itself in the temporal order, the world of appearances in order to incarnate the eternal in time, to become a mediator between humanity and eternity."


From there, all path are open to him and he welcomes all experiences because he understands them for what they are.
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Hmm Interesting! To call it the statue of Liberty, when they the illuminati want to destroy all liberty and freedom that America has written in the constitution. Shouldn't the statue be facing American soil instead of out toward the sea. Or does it mean they want to take America back to Europe.



Hmm, good question, can anyone answer that? I would think its facing Israel. but they said Europe in the show.
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


I believe the Statue faces Europe because it was a gift from the French.

And I believe some people give the 'Illuminati' way too much credit.
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Hmm Interesting! To call it the statue of Liberty, when they the illuminati want to destroy all liberty and freedom that America has written in the constitution. Shouldn't the statue be facing American soil instead of out toward the sea. Or does it mean they want to take America back to Europe.



Hmm, good question, can anyone answer that? I would think its facing Israel. but they said Europe in the show.
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It is a beacon welcoming people on ships to a land not ruled by superstitions.
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Yes, wow, I first thought that too, the Fool as the Goal card, to be unburdened and free, without a care in the world.


It could be, that after the dissolution in the unreaveled aspect of God (Ain Soph Aur) - the goal of the mystic/saint path and a voluntarily choice for the right hand adepts a new cycle will start. But not sure on that.


After the dissolution the mystic is fully immersed in God and all answers come naturally to him (But usually they come mainly through exchange with others. The mystic is mainly a mediator)

"The final and last stage is one of union with the object of love, the one Reality, God. Here the self has been permanently established on a transcendental level and liberated for a new purpose. Filled up with the Divine Will, it immerses itself in the temporal order, the world of appearances in order to incarnate the eternal in time, to become a mediator between humanity and eternity."


From there, all path are open to him and he welcomes all experiences because he understands them for what they are.
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friend, help me here, cause Im not sure if Im at this stage or not,..

Ive been in constant exchange, had my own website too and taught others while they teach me. and its been a constant exhange and growth of astrology, Hermetics, Judaism, Hindu, christianity, Egypt, Sumer, Babylon, Greece, Rome, Alchemy, Magick, Thoth, Prophecy and so much more..

But then I saw my future and its not possible.

Im disabled, and very much Uh, helpless, I had the passing fancy of a NEW BODY from God but not sure, I do get lots of UFO sightings often and they seem to follow me around. Thats another story

Im really too tired for Divine Will unless a miracle takes place, seriously,

I mean, I saw Hod, Mercury Hermes, follows the path of Resh to Yesod, (magickal image of a strong healthy man) and thought, hmmm, can that come true?
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Its hard for me to grasp being liberated when Im in physical pain everyday, and it feels like a restraint .

Mentally yes, Im liberated, But with the physical being a constant annoyance...its difficult

Odd again when astrologers say I have a powerful influencial future, lol.
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It could be too, that the left hand path adepts, do not lose their immortality, because the real "illuminati" are people, who walk on the right hand path and when becoming a master, they've the choice to sit down on the right of either God OR the "Anti" God Beliel. I have no clue how a violent change of this magnitude is possible, but what it looks like, being a spiritual screw ups specialist, is just a function like any other. They dissolve eventually too, at some point of time, but i have no clue how and where and if this knowledge will be revealed below the adept stages. I tend to believe, that everything is perfectly balanced out though.
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Hi Al.

I'm to the game a bit late. Lost as last year's easter egg as we might say down home.

I'm planning on re-reading this thread. But the second time through I want to have more puzzle pieces. How could I best accomplish this? Is there other material you would point me to before my second reading?

I'd like the most useful answer you can give me. I am truly seeking it.

Thank you very much - in advance.
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Hi Al.

I'm to the game a bit late. Lost as last year's easter egg as we might say down home.

I'm planning on re-reading this thread. But the second time through I want to have more puzzle pieces. How could I best accomplish this? Is there other material you would point me to before my second reading?

I'd like the most useful answer you can give me. I am truly seeking it.

Thank you very much - in advance.
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Yes, Hi friend ! Pretty much its a big exhale.. lol Its public now about Lucifer meaning Enlightenment and Light and were going on from there.

Its a Major Marker for humanity. so interesting days are ahead for sure.

Wonder if this all ties in with the eclipse, the earth coming between the sun and moon this winter solstice?

Easter Egg. lol !!

We all reunite with the Ovoid and Salvador Dali did paint that a new man was to hatch from the Primordial egg.
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Its hard for me to grasp being liberated when Im in physical pain everyday, and it feels like a restraint .
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


You're being teached by karma.
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It could be too, that the left hand path adepts, do not lose their immortality, because the real "illuminati" are people, who walk on the right hand path and when becoming a master, they've the choice to sit down on the right of either God OR the "Anti" God Beliel. I have no clue how a violent change of this magnitude is possible, but what it looks like, being a spiritual screw ups specialist, is just a function like any other. They dissolve eventually too, at some point of time, but i have no clue how and where and if this knowledge will be revealed below the adept stages. I tend to believe, that everything is perfectly balanced out though.
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LV, Ive faces those choices myself and to be safe I chose to sit on the fence, Kidding, I chose the middle path.

Im both and I dont know what to do...

I can speak Baphomet symbology just as well as I can qoute Christian Scripture and Judaic Prophecy.
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Yes, wow, I first thought that too, the Fool as the Goal card, to be unburdened and free, without a care in the world.


It could be, that after the dissolution in the unreaveled aspect of God (Ain Soph Aur) - the goal of the mystic/saint path and a voluntarily choice for the right hand adepts a new cycle will start. But not sure on that.


After the dissolution the mystic is fully immersed in God and all answers come naturally to him (But usually they come mainly through exchange with others. The mystic is mainly a mediator)

"The final and last stage is one of union with the object of love, the one Reality, God. Here the self has been permanently established on a transcendental level and liberated for a new purpose. Filled up with the Divine Will, it immerses itself in the temporal order, the world of appearances in order to incarnate the eternal in time, to become a mediator between humanity and eternity."


From there, all path are open to him and he welcomes all experiences because he understands them for what they are.


friend, help me here, cause Im not sure if Im at this stage or not,..

Ive been in constant exchange, had my own website too and taught others while they teach me. and its been a constant exhange and growth of astrology, Hermetics, Judaism, Hindu, christianity, Egypt, Sumer, Babylon, Greece, Rome, Alchemy, Magick, Thoth, Prophecy and so much more..

But then I saw my future and its not possible.

Im disabled, and very much Uh, helpless, I had the passing fancy of a NEW BODY from God but not sure, I do get lots of UFO sightings often and they seem to follow me around. Thats another story

Im really too tired for Divine Will unless a miracle takes place, seriously,

I mean, I saw Hod, Mercury Hermes, follows the path of Resh to Yesod, (magickal image of a strong healthy man) and thought, hmmm, can that come true?
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


I'm sorry to hear your pain. Knowledge is not the path to union. Experience is.

You cannot see your future since you are writing it every second. What you saw was from the psychic realm (I saw I was Shiva the destroyer, and how I would destroy the world, and it almost drove me mad).

Read this site, it explains things in a pragmatic way and eliminates the fog associated to the mysteries:

[link to www.themystic.org]

Or read this fantastic book (longer):

[link to www.ccel.org]


Also I'm sorry I don't know about your condition and I don't know if this path can help you with your body (sometimes miracles happen though, but I don't want to give you false hopes). But it can help with all the rest hf
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LV, Ive faces those choices myself and to be safe I chose to sit on the fence, Kidding, I chose the middle path.
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


There is no such a thing as the middle path. In the end you either serve the ego, or the divine will.

The people with pacts have quite a chance to turn into a demon, after paying off the contract debts (the majority will turn around though) and in this case, i believe the immortality is gone for good (this can happen on the right hand path too, during some tests).
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You cannot see your future since you are writing it every second. What you saw was from the psychic realm (I saw I was Shiva the destroyer, and how I would destroy the world, and it almost drove me mad).
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I've not read your quoted source, but will definitely do so.

Isn't Shiva's task to demolish the old so that something new and better can manifest?
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You cannot see your future since you are writing it every second. What you saw was from the psychic realm (I saw I was Shiva the destroyer, and how I would destroy the world, and it almost drove me mad).

I've not read your quoted source, but will definitely do so.

Isn't Shiva's task to demolish the old so that something new and better can manifest?
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That was the teaching behind this vision. But I only understood later.

At first I was so terrified I fought this vision and considered suicide (something stupid your demons whisper to you) but refused to do so.

I had a serious panic attack and felt like I was dying (to be honest, I believed I was dying.

I accepted this peacefully as I preferred it to my vision and laid my life in the hand of God. I "died" and experienced more things.

Then I saw I was still alive and was back to square one and had to start all over again. I'm now working daily to solve my personal issues as they resurface through my life, but with a newfound force to help me :)

I'm still learning. I probably always will.
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There is an end to the creation too in some far far far away future (the final judgement) and what happens then, only the creator knows. But i believe, it is setup in a way, that in the end only these people are going to stay, that are like JHVH and the lower end of the left hand path is designed to filter out the ego obsessed and the right hand path those, who are not strong enough to be on his side.
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Ceased then He from speaking and sat
in the silence that comes to the Lords.
Then again spake He unto me, saying:
ìO Thoth, long have We sat in Amenti,
guarding the flame of life in the Halls.
Yet know, we are still part of our
Cycles with our Vision reaching unto them and beyond.
Aye, know we that of all,
nothing else matters excepting the growth
we can gain with our Soul.
Know we the flesh is fleeting.
The things men count great are nothing to us.
The things we seek are not of the body
but are only the perfected state of the Soul.
When ye as men can learn that nothing but
progress of Soul can count in the end,
then truly ye are free from all bondage,
free to work in a harmony of Law.


Do you know that freemasonry today is ran by the Rosicrucian?
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You cannot see your future since you are writing it every second. What you saw was from the psychic realm (I saw I was Shiva the destroyer, and how I would destroy the world, and it almost drove me mad).

I've not read your quoted source, but will definitely do so.

Isn't Shiva's task to demolish the old so that something new and better can manifest?


That was the teaching behind this vision. But I only understood later.

At first I was so terrified I fought this vision and considered suicide (something stupid your demons whisper to you) but refused to do so.

I had a serious panic attack and felt like I was dying (to be honest, I believed I was dying.

I accepted this peacefully as I preferred it to my vision and laid my life in the hand of God. I "died" and experienced more things.

Then I saw I was still alive and was back to square one and had to start all over again. I'm now working daily to solve my personal issues as they resurface through my life, but with a newfound force to help me :)

I'm still learning. I probably always will.
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Wow, what a emotional account, Thank you for sharing, Its really bringing me back. And I went thru that suicide temptings as well.

There is a Exoteric writer named Saxon who wrote these essay stories as he saw it in the past, He wrote about the sins of a King who created our modern day pornography . He would stage elaborate orgies and more after he argued with God to allow for freedom and lust to be in our genetics to choose mates.

After I read that , It was the same visions I used to recieve about myself and it terrified me cause naturally Im not a kinky or sex obsessed person more than normal. But these visions of this King wouldnt stop. Id wake up terrified as well. lol...

I saw myself as this past King who had thousands of concubines and then all my present Karmic Punishment became understandable to me. lol..

I also see the Anti Christ sometimes, but dont want to say much or get anyone mad at me. lol
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Id wake up terrified as well. lol...

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Yep... ;)

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Terror of the Threshold


Suddenly, in the middle of the night or during meditation, you, in your search for truth, have a frightening experience. Itís called the terror of the threshold, and the word terror is apt. Striving to enter into a higher realm of consciousness ó striving to enter the portal of greater love, truth, and beauty ó you, all at once, in one total impression, find yourself gazing into a horrifying sight. You perceive your evil. There, ever so vividly, your cruel and thoughtless actions stand revealed to your inner sight. You see these ghastly images, while feeling deep pain. Remorse wells up; but in your terror you cannot stop the sight of such selfishness, such foul thinking, such egocentricity. Your emotions seem so base, you feel youíre looking at an animal. Yet, in all the terror, you know, inescapably, you are seeing yourself. Thatís the terror of it.

You clearly see yourself, in myriad examples, as an enemy of Light. You have, for your own purposes, limited or denied goodness. You have hurt others. You have, for some personal gain, conspired against good people ó or blocked them. You have spoken ill of others. You have tormented people with your insults. With tears you realize you have often been given a choice of light or darkness and you have, sometimes eagerly, sometimes slowly after great pondering, chosen the darkness. Oh, the revulsion of it all! You see your evil in such detail, with so many proofs.

"Oh, what a horrible person Iíve been!" you say from the agony of your soul. "So manipulative! So conniving! How like a cunning animal! How unlike a human being. How unlike my dreams and pretensions of my true nature have I behaved! In thought, word, and deed I have stood against life and goodness itself. It is undeniably evident.


"Oh, Iím terrified," you cry. "A thousand years of remorse will still not relieve my guilt about what I have done to others, to myself, to my Lord. How silly are my pretensions to goodness. How foolish to conceive of myself entering higher consciousness. I tremble in shock, convicted."

Much weeping happens. Your whole body sobs. You have a growing sense of helplessness due to the acknowledgement of your allegiance to evil thoughts, words, and actions. You feel you stink at every level, and oh, how putridly.
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Id wake up terrified as well. lol...



Yep... ;)

[link to www.themystic.org]



Terror of the Threshold


Suddenly, in the middle of the night or during meditation, you, in your search for truth, have a frightening experience. Itís called the terror of the threshold, and the word terror is apt. Striving to enter into a higher realm of consciousness ó striving to enter the portal of greater love, truth, and beauty ó you, all at once, in one total impression, find yourself gazing into a horrifying sight. You perceive your evil. There, ever so vividly, your cruel and thoughtless actions stand revealed to your inner sight. You see these ghastly images, while feeling deep pain. Remorse wells up; but in your terror you cannot stop the sight of such selfishness, such foul thinking, such egocentricity. Your emotions seem so base, you feel youíre looking at an animal. Yet, in all the terror, you know, inescapably, you are seeing yourself. Thatís the terror of it.

You clearly see yourself, in myriad examples, as an enemy of Light. You have, for your own purposes, limited or denied goodness. You have hurt others. You have, for some personal gain, conspired against good people ó or blocked them. You have spoken ill of others. You have tormented people with your insults. With tears you realize you have often been given a choice of light or darkness and you have, sometimes eagerly, sometimes slowly after great pondering, chosen the darkness. Oh, the revulsion of it all! You see your evil in such detail, with so many proofs.

"Oh, what a horrible person Iíve been!" you say from the agony of your soul. "So manipulative! So conniving! How like a cunning animal! How unlike a human being. How unlike my dreams and pretensions of my true nature have I behaved! In thought, word, and deed I have stood against life and goodness itself. It is undeniably evident.


"Oh, Iím terrified," you cry. "A thousand years of remorse will still not relieve my guilt about what I have done to others, to myself, to my Lord. How silly are my pretensions to goodness. How foolish to conceive of myself entering higher consciousness. I tremble in shock, convicted."

Much weeping happens. Your whole body sobs. You have a growing sense of helplessness due to the acknowledgement of your allegiance to evil thoughts, words, and actions. You feel you stink at every level, and oh, how putridly.
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WOW, and I havent taught this to my friends cause I was ashamed ! I didnt know it was explained before.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU !

I saw the links you gave me and this one was one of them.

It totally described the animal I saw was me, I was a Asshole . like the worst of the worst, and it explained some residual desires I had, the longing, but then the shock and I did cry alot, I cried so much I thought my crying would kill me, just deep soul wrenching sobs.
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I'm sorry to hear your pain. Knowledge is not the path to union. Experience is.

You cannot see your future since you are writing it every second. What you saw was from the psychic realm (I saw I was Shiva the destroyer, and how I would destroy the world, and it almost drove me mad).

Read this site, it explains things in a pragmatic way and eliminates the fog associated to the mysteries:

[link to www.themystic.org]

Or read this fantastic book (longer):

[link to www.ccel.org]


Also I'm sorry I don't know about your condition and I don't know if this path can help you with your body (sometimes miracles happen though, but I don't want to give you false hopes). But it can help with all the rest hf
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Got these links bookmarked, really impressed, I need to examine the Mystic links more cause Ive been in the words MYSTERY and SECRET and MAGICK past few years, lol.. forgot about the Mystic, cause thats my true faith actually.

Id tell others, Im a Mystic Christian, so theyd understand me for example.
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THANK YOU, THANK YOU !

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I'm so glad I can help :) I'm merely sharing what I received.

And also I know it will come as a surprise to some here but during my experiences I've asked help from catholics monks in a monastery close to my living place and they've been of tremendous help. They housed during 3 days while I was delirious and fighting my demons.

They didn't judged me at all, told me I wasn't the first to come see them about that. They only critic they made me is that it was mainly because I chosed to study by myself.

Later it made me read about the teachings of the saints to see how they also had that same knowledge of mysticism.

Not all things in religions are bad :)
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"Oh, what a horrible person Iíve been!" you say from the agony of your soul. "So manipulative! So conniving! How like a cunning animal! How unlike a human being. How unlike my dreams and pretensions of my true nature have I behaved! In thought, word, and deed I have stood against life and goodness itself. It is undeniably evident.
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Which doesn't change the fact, that "evil" is necessary, that you've almost an eternity to make the ascension and can turn around anytime. The master who i have all my knowledge from, had actually a pact with Baphomet in one of his previous lives, but turned around after it. I believe something similar goes for Jesus & Bardon.
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LV, Ive faces those choices myself and to be safe I chose to sit on the fence, Kidding, I chose the middle path.


There is no such a thing as the middle path. In the end you either serve the ego, or the divine will.

The people with pacts have quite a chance to turn into a demon, after paying off the contract debts (the majority will turn around though) and in this case, i believe the immortality is gone for good (this can happen on the right hand path too, during some tests).
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Those have always been my concerns, yes, I am scared of making the wrong decisions, The astrologer in me however says its already been decided some how , or the future already written..

In terms of the Kingdom, It always says we will start over with a new nucleus of people. But in terms of souls. Souls can never die. Its eternal.
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In terms of the Kingdom, It always says we will start over with a new nucleus of people. But in terms of souls. Souls can never die. Its eternal.
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I am > 90% sure, that it works the way as i described it here and that you can lose your immortality, but i will do some deeper research into this stuff and get certitude soon.
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did the ancient chinese move to south america ?
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Re: ILLUMINATI discussion . Statue of Liberty IS LUCIFER. !!! says History Channel.*****
In terms of the Kingdom, It always says we will start over with a new nucleus of people. But in terms of souls. Souls can never die. Its eternal.


I am > 90% sure, that it works the way as i described it here and that you can lose your immortality, but i will do some deeper research into this stuff and get certitude soon.
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Yes, Didnt Quezocoatl get punished for sexual sins?

I need to know the results of your research cause Masters have told me, Im there, the threshhold of immortality. But I fear messing up big time.

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