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ILLUMINATI discussion . Statue of Liberty IS LUCIFER. !!! says History Channel.*****

 
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I would really love to hear your understanding of reincarnation pretty please :)


Well... I believe (I insist on believe) we are all fragments of the divine consciousness. Like facets of the same diamond. Meaning we are all connected through eternity and only move closer or further from that reality, like angels on Jacob's ladder.

I believe when we die we don't necessarily return straight back to that Divine consciousness but there may be other 'intermediate states' depending on our development and efforts.

So we can choose (or are sent?) to continue to climb the ladder to go back to the Divine and merge with it or choose (or are sent?) to come back on Earth as the same fragment (but I'm not sure about that part that's why I said I'm not sure about reincarnation as classically viewed).

Personally I'm not afraid to lose my identity when dying but I have no clue what will happen or how it works.

It's a bit hard to explain but I just feel it's something along those lines but don't why.


You have a lovely way of putting it and I could see it as I was reading it.

I had the weirdest experience once.

I experienced a lifetime with someone I know where we both shared the same body. We are both women and when I first met her it took me a long time to work through a feeling of anxiety that I would get in her presence.

For years I always wondered about this feeling and then I was meditating where I left my body and became a man. I was French and I even knew my name and the date I was living in. Even stranger was this split consciousness experience with my friend.

Made me realise after then why I used to feel the anxiety feeling around her. Im not an anxious person and off the top of my head havent felt that feeling before or since.

Anyway I get on with this lady/my friend just fine and she certainly is an aquired taste but I now love her to bits lol
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Strawberry, what a cool story. I remember living in Beverly Hills as a daughter of a Ambassador, lol. I wish I had a male past life like some soldier, but I just remember being a lady wearing white gloves. I have a feminine past memory, kinda like you remembering being a man.

But everything from the 50s is so familiar to me, I remember Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney , Frank Sinatra like it was yesterday, I see the bathroom I had in the 50s and my old neighborhood, I used to go to South Africa and ride the trains during the British Rule and Occupation when my Father worked there.

I cant confirm this of course 100 percent, But the Jews as well as Eastern lands believe in Reincarnation and my memories are so vivid

I wish I knew who is who today though, Its nice to be with your friend today, It is said Soul groups travel thru lives together.
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Ever notice the resemblence between the Statue of liberty and the goddess Columbia as in the torch carring lady at the beginning of many movies. Columbia pictures. The District of Columbia. The Goddess Columbia on top of the US Capital. George washington looking down at you from the heavens in the Capital Rotunda With the Statue of the Goddess Columbia Above his Head. He's in Satan's Heavens. Columbia Also known as Sex God venus. 5a yoda





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Hmm Interesting! To call it the statue of Liberty, when they the illuminati want to destroy all liberty and freedom that America has written in the constitution. Shouldn't the statue be facing American soil instead of out toward the sea. Or does it mean they want to take America back to Europe.



Hmm, good question, can anyone answer that? I would think its facing Israel. but they said Europe in the show.
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I believe it is facing the copy in Paris....
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I would really love to hear your understanding of reincarnation pretty please :)


Well... I believe (I insist on believe) we are all fragments of the divine consciousness. Like facets of the same diamond. Meaning we are all connected through eternity and only move closer or further from that reality, like angels on Jacob's ladder.

I believe when we die we don't necessarily return straight back to that Divine consciousness but there may be other 'intermediate states' depending on our development and efforts.

So we can choose (or are sent?) to continue to climb the ladder to go back to the Divine and merge with it or choose (or are sent?) to come back on Earth as the same fragment (but I'm not sure about that part that's why I said I'm not sure about reincarnation as classically viewed).

Personally I'm not afraid to lose my identity when dying but I have no clue what will happen or how it works.

It's a bit hard to explain but I just feel it's something along those lines but don't why.


You have a lovely way of putting it and I could see it as I was reading it.

I had the weirdest experience once.

I experienced a lifetime with someone I know where we both shared the same body. We are both women and when I first met her it took me a long time to work through a feeling of anxiety that I would get in her presence.

For years I always wondered about this feeling and then I was meditating where I left my body and became a man. I was French and I even knew my name and the date I was living in. Even stranger was this split consciousness experience with my friend.

Made me realise after then why I used to feel the anxiety feeling around her. Im not an anxious person and off the top of my head havent felt that feeling before or since.

Anyway I get on with this lady/my friend just fine and she certainly is an aquired taste but I now love her to bits lol



Strawberry, what a cool story. I remember living in Beverly Hills as a daughter of a Ambassador, lol. I wish I had a male past life like some soldier, but I just remember being a lady wearing white gloves. I have a feminine past memory, kinda like you remembering being a man.

But everything from the 50s is so familiar to me, I remember Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney , Frank Sinatra like it was yesterday, I see the bathroom I had in the 50s and my old neighborhood, I used to go to South Africa and ride the trains during the British Rule and Occupation when my Father worked there.

I cant confirm this of course 100 percent, But the Jews as well as Eastern lands believe in Reincarnation and my memories are so vivid

I wish I knew who is who today though, Its nice to be with your friend today, It is said Soul groups travel thru lives together.
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from what i remember i stay the same for the last i am in touch with my other side however i do not remember ever being the other sex although do remember being the same pretty much always in personality a book worm my friends tell me that i remind them of Reid off of criminal minds
i remember my children in this life more than i remembered my own past it is funny how when you see the past of who you have been who you are becoming its really

i don't know when i think about past lives reincarnation\
i just feel aw and wonder
also the phrase i was i am and i will be makes loads more sense
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Gee I have to leave you. It's 2 in the morning here and I didn't even see the time fly so quickly.


It was nice chatting with such fine and respectful people hf

See you!
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Hi friend, Yes, it was nice chatting with you also.

Keep clicking on my name to see when I get new posts.

Take care

May Roses bloom on our Crosses and May there be Darkness to Light. hf
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Thanks for the heads up. Gonna record it.

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Thanks for the heads up. Gonna record it.

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Thanks for the heads up. Gonna record it.

:)



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didn't want to get too excited



Lady Liberty was said to be fashioned after Queen Semiramis


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

here is the roman version

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Grover Cleveland, a 33 Deg MM stated the following when he rec'd the Statue.

"Never let us forget that it is here that Liberty has made her home, and never let us forget THE SACRED ALTAR upon shich she stands...

Interesting choice of words as altar denotes worship. No two ways around it. However, do some digging on her altar, and then look into the aztec human sacrifice altar...

BTW folks, here is the History channels production...

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Grover Cleveland, a 33 Deg MM stated the following when he rec'd the Statue.

"Never let us forget that it is here that Liberty has made her home, and never let us forget THE SACRED ALTAR upon shich she stands...

Interesting choice of words as altar denotes worship. No two ways around it. However, do some digging on her altar, and then look into the aztec human sacrifice altar...

BTW folks, here is the History channels production...


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have you found the episode on you tube yet i am really surprised there isn't more uproar about this
from the religiously bound

so how is your day al
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Hmm Interesting! To call it the statue of Liberty, when they the illuminati want to destroy all liberty and freedom that America has written in the constitution. Shouldn't the statue be facing American soil instead of out toward the sea. Or does it mean they want to take America back to Europe.

It is a beacon welcoming people on ships to a land not ruled by superstitions.
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Yes you are correct. But it also has a hidden meaning that has alot to do with the people who designed and built her and the agenda that these people had. Its basically not about superstition but facts. Its not a good meaning its very dark indeed. Watch the video on you tube which is the heading of this discussion. One of the guys in the video would love to see the monstrosity scrapped. I would like it melted down in a furnice after researching its true symbolic meaning.
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the statue of liberty is the church. the whole church meaning every religion known to man. it is isis. meaning wisdom or Gnowldge. The head is the black nobility of the vatican. currently rothschilds. the keystone she holds is the bible. the key to the empire of the world. world conquest via religion. she has a roman dress and looks like a man because she is one. she is the g20 summit. she is the gnowledge tree. she is the tower of babel. she is the beast. she is the whore. she is horus, isis, osiris all in one. she is the hooker and a penis. she is the tit or capitol building on the hill or penis.
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and she sits at the entrance of new york. the big gnowledge tree apple. gnowledge is one thing. but a gang is another.
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the statue of liberty is the church. the whole church meaning every religion known to man. it is isis. meaning wisdom or Gnowldge. The head is the black nobility of the vatican. currently rothschilds. the keystone she holds is the bible. the key to the empire of the world. world conquest via religion. she has a roman dress and looks like a man because she is one. she is the g20 summit. she is the gnowledge tree. she is the tower of babel. she is the beast. she is the whore. she is horus, isis, osiris all in one. she is the hooker and a penis. she is the tit or capitol building on the hill or penis.
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She is a hermaphrodite, yes. They mysteries of Sol and Luna having Mercurius the Hermphrodite child.
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so some of you would melt it down now even though its got 100 and some year history as being something else and now people find out its not what it seemed so they wanna destroy it

that is some dark age kind of thinking no matter what its a statue to who cares if its a Lucifer statute Christmas isn't Christan its Saturn worship and the knowledge of good and evil tree worship
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Lucifer isn't evil its a title that's why Jesus and Lucifer are both the morning star because they were the same person so where a bunch of people learn the context of stuff and the symbol not just what history channel tells you
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have you found the episode on you tube yet i am really surprised there isn't more uproar about this
from the religiously bound

so how is your day al
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Hi Son, yes, it is quiet !!! it was like this after the Lost Tomb of Jesus came out, Have you seen that special? I knew people who helped run the forum. People from NASA and more.

I mean on the internet, there was lots of angry Christians, but in the outside world it wasnt talked about on the water cooler or anything...
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so some of you would melt it down now even though its got 100 and some year history as being something else and now people find out its not what it seemed so they wanna destroy it

that is some dark age kind of thinking no matter what its a statue to who cares if its a Lucifer statute Christmas isn't Christan its Saturn worship and the knowledge of good and evil tree worship
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Yes, absolutely right, then once we acknowledge that we are in this Gnosis together , we can all come together, rise up and figure out how to make it the tree of life. All religions have one piece of Osiris, a piece of the Puzzle.

But with paranoia, hatred and division between peoples, it will delay the rebirth of Osiris/Christ/Lucifer.

We are actually all under one God. as God is THE ALL, and GOD is LOVE
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yes i found the link after i posted my comment i watched it and honestly i was disappointed although i did find it interesting how significant the number seven was since in numerology i am a seven

and my comments were meant to i guess try to show that if everything was revealed for what it is there would be no Christmas and or Easter or even Christianity or Islam because everything has been taken from the mysteries which from what i can tell originated from Hinduism and Sumeria and Tibet
and yezidi
my point is there would be nothing ,left of culture if everything was revealed and the angry and scared religious people had there way
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god is baphomet in that god is not he or she god in all tense and purpose completely alien to what humans are
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god is baphomet in that god is not he or she god in all tense and purpose completely alien to what humans are
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Yes.

Baphomet is the Birth of The Morningstar, the inverted Pentagram is him falling down to earth. the Goat is because he is Capricorn, He is the Sacrificial Goat, the Scapegoat of the Hebrews.

'Baphe' and 'Metis' means. the Baptism of Wisdom the falling of Gods wife, So Baphomet is a androgyne, He is half woman, half man.

the lotus flower between his two horns is the Flame of Wisdom between two horns of duality,

Once the Goat however climbs the mountain, he sheds one horn. (further into the Mysteries this is explained

He points As Above, So. Below.

Solve Coagula is written on both arms of Baphomet in blood.

Solvent Coagulation..

His spirit falls, then becomes man when his soul redeems his dross and goes thru the coagulation of alchemy, the Seventh and final stage of redeeming the karmic soul..

Baphomet, a symbol of the Androgynous Christ
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yes i found the link after i posted my comment i watched it and honestly i was disappointed although i did find it interesting how significant the number seven was since in numerology i am a seven

and my comments were meant to i guess try to show that if everything was revealed for what it is there would be no Christmas and or Easter or even Christianity or Islam because everything has been taken from the mysteries which from what i can tell originated from Hinduism and Sumeria and Tibet
and yezidi
my point is there would be nothing ,left of culture if everything was revealed and the angry and scared religious people had there way
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Im a numero uno in numerology, Cool ! Seven means everything, seven planets, seven lights on the menorah, Seven days in a week, it goes on and on....seven seals in Revelation

I admit that Hindu is still calling me, the Nazi Symbol originally was Hindu. It just means the whirling of the four directions. and theres a Story of the biblical Melchizedek and India,

India is calling me one day, I feel theres a origin there that will begin it all again.. hf

And Tibet, theres alot of hints that they carry the Bloodline of the Lost Tribe.
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Buddhist used the symbol of the swastika also

i was curious so as a seven does it signify some important thing or something

also i was reading the one thread about the activation numbers and non activation numbers
the only numbers that stood out for me where the 999 and the 666 i understand that the 666 is the mastery of the material world so what exactly does that mean to master the material world and if i do that this time when i return will it mean that i am whole mastering both worlds cause for some reason i believe that i will not reincarnate again this is my last trip unless i choose to reincarnate again ever feel like that al
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Buddhist used the symbol of the swastika also

i was curious so as a seven does it signify some important thing or something

also i was reading the one thread about the activation numbers and non activation numbers
the only numbers that stood out for me where the 999 and the 666 i understand that the 666 is the mastery of the material world so what exactly does that mean to master the material world and if i do that this time when i return will it mean that i am whole mastering both worlds cause for some reason i believe that i will not reincarnate again this is my last trip unless i choose to reincarnate again ever feel like that al
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As Above So Below,

666 is the Below, the carbon atom of man, the number of the life species under the earth sun . 6 Electrons, 6 protons, 6 neutrons

999 is looking at 666 from above, your higher self

999 As Above,

666 As Below

and Yes, you will be mastering the material world as well. Before the Universe opens up to you and you are freed..
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so some of you would melt it down now even though its got 100 and some year history as being something else and now people find out its not what it seemed so they wanna destroy it

that is some dark age kind of thinking no matter what its a statue to who cares if its a Lucifer statute Christmas isn't Christan its Saturn worship and the knowledge of good and evil tree worship



Yes, absolutely right, then once we acknowledge that we are in this Gnosis together , we can all come together, rise up and figure out how to make it the tree of life. All religions have one piece of Osiris, a piece of the Puzzle.

But with paranoia, hatred and division between peoples, it will delay the rebirth of Osiris/Christ/Lucifer.

We are actually all under one God. as God is THE ALL, and GOD is LOVE
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Happy Sunday to AL and all :)

I was only thinking about those pieces of Osiris and the puzzle pieces yesterday and thankyou for sharing as that is good confirmation for me :)

Im thinking of what it would be like to eat just of the 'tree of life' and so far Ive come up with living in accordance with 'The Natural Laws'.

What do you all think/feel?
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yes i found the link after i posted my comment i watched it and honestly i was disappointed although i did find it interesting how significant the number seven was since in numerology i am a seven

and my comments were meant to i guess try to show that if everything was revealed for what it is there would be no Christmas and or Easter or even Christianity or Islam because everything has been taken from the mysteries which from what i can tell originated from Hinduism and Sumeria and Tibet
and yezidi
my point is there would be nothing ,left of culture if everything was revealed and the angry and scared religious people had there way
 Quoting: Son of the Morning


SoM

I've been looking at Druidism and the old ways of the UK and they hold a huge chunk of the puzzle :)

As you know the tower of Bable split the universal language and scattered the mysteries.

The UK is the key to Atlantis and even though the majority of our history was destroyed it wasnt really.

Im finding in my own personal research that to hide mysteries in plain site they are intejected or overlayed. So there seems to be images or pictures overlayed over the mystery to hide it. I think that is what some people call magical landscaping or geomancy.

There are hints of that in the Portal by Patrice Chapman, not that Ive read that yet but from the blurb and interviews of her I get the general jist.

Ive been reading this over the weekend and Im LURVIN it :)

[link to books.google.co.uk]

Also the Mabinogion is interesting.
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The UK is the key to Atlantis and even though the majority of our history was destroyed it wasnt really.
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The key to Atlantis is the secret knowledge, which never has been destroyed. There is actually one adept around, which has witnessed this time.
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yes i found the link after i posted my comment i watched it and honestly i was disappointed although i did find it interesting how significant the number seven was since in numerology i am a seven

and my comments were meant to i guess try to show that if everything was revealed for what it is there would be no Christmas and or Easter or even Christianity or Islam because everything has been taken from the mysteries which from what i can tell originated from Hinduism and Sumeria and Tibet
and yezidi
my point is there would be nothing ,left of culture if everything was revealed and the angry and scared religious people had there way


Im a numero uno in numerology, Cool ! Seven means everything, seven planets, seven lights on the menorah, Seven days in a week, it goes on and on....seven seals in Revelation

I admit that Hindu is still calling me, the Nazi Symbol originally was Hindu. It just means the whirling of the four directions. and theres a Story of the biblical Melchizedek and India,

India is calling me one day, I feel theres a origin there that will begin it all again.. hf

And Tibet, theres alot of hints that they carry the Bloodline of the Lost Tribe.
 Quoting: AL MURREDIN


Melchizedek is really interesting to research.

I was drawn to [link to www.hiddenmeanings.com]

the entirety of the website is interesting but you know what its like if you overdose, you get spiritual indigestion :)
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The UK is the key to Atlantis and even though the majority of our history was destroyed it wasnt really.


The key to Atlantis is the secret knowledge, which never has been destroyed. There is actually one adept around, which has witnessed this time.
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Im all ears :)

popcorn go on you know you want to share more ;)
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