North Korea warns it will bomb South Korea if it goes ahead with military drills on Yeonpyeong | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199192 Singapore 12/18/2010 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | says who, any official statement from russia or nk ? Quoting: Janey 1195887and how can you easily believe this crap yeah my fellow neighbouring country see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East. How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements? There will be no war. However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee. China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control. there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert. Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing. How can they fight a war? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199125 Germany 12/18/2010 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But the South has got to go through with these drills, to show they will not be bullied. Quoting: Butterfly girlyou can sink their ships and shell their islands but a DRILL will teach the bullies? doubtful... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199180 United Kingdom 12/18/2010 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | says who, any official statement from russia or nk ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199192and how can you easily believe this crap yeah my fellow neighbouring country see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East. How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements? There will be no war. However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee. China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control. there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert. Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing. How can they fight a war? ICBM is enough to blow Singapore into ashes for seconds. do you want to try? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199158 Malaysia 12/18/2010 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | related link, please says who, any official statement from russia or nk ? Quoting: Janey 1195887and how can you easily believe this crap yeah my fellow neighbouring country see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East. How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements? There will be no war. However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee. China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control. there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert. Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199158 Malaysia 12/18/2010 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the more you see it , the more clear you will get it seek and you shall find says who, any official statement from russia or nk ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199192and how can you easily believe this crap yeah my fellow neighbouring country see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East. How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements? There will be no war. However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee. China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control. there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert. Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing. How can they fight a war? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199158 Malaysia 12/18/2010 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | another crap stop imagining weirdo occasion ombre says who, any official statement from russia or nk ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199180and how can you easily believe this crap yeah my fellow neighbouring country see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East. How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements? There will be no war. However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee. China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control. there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert. Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing. How can they fight a war? ICBM is enough to blow Singapore into ashes for seconds. do you want to try? |
goodmockingbird User ID: 1186678 United States 12/18/2010 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... notice the potential get out for them with the "and cross the line". They could claim the shells did not cross, depending on where they want the line to be that day Quoting: Janey 1195887Janey, greatly appreciate your astute commentary. But I am wondering if there may confusion in the phrase "and cross the line" from how its equivalent was delivered in Korean, as to how it is translated into English. In English, we have a whole 'depth of meaning' and social construct behind the concept of "crossing a line". It need not involve any sort of physical line at all, but means breaching some abstract standard or code of conduct, beyond which there are negative consequences. I wonder if the original Korean language refers to some physical boundary like a line on a map, or if it was loosely translated into our vernacular. The Norks could have meant "... if you cross latitude X and longitude Y", or it could have meant "... if your activities are extremely unacceptable to us". In English we could use the phrase "... cross the line" to mean either of those very, very different things. I Support Our First Responders |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199202 Singapore 12/18/2010 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | During 2008 The Financial Times in Britain reported that the number of Chinese soldiers guarding the border has gone up since September amid ``mounting concerns about the health of Kim Jong-il." Citing unnamed U.S. officials, the report said ``the People's Liberation Army (of China) has stationed more soldiers on the border to prepare for any possible influx of refugees due to instability or regime change in North Korea." It said the increase in Chinese troops was not ``dramatic." But in addition to more soldiers, the Chinese military is also constructing more fences and installations at key border outposts, according to the report. It said American and South Korean spy agencies believe Kim indeed suffered a stroke in August and that it affected the left side of his body. The report said there are concerns about how long Kim can hold on to power if he is partially paralyzed. Some reports said there may be a shift in power taking place in Pyongyang. This week, news reports speculated Kim's brother-in-law, Jang Song-taek, is consolidating power. Some analysts said Jang is effectively standing in for Kim. They said he may now be in charge of receiving orders from Kim and relaying them to senior officials. Jang reportedly has powerful allies and contacts within the ruling Workers' Party and the military. That could make him the second most powerful figure in Pyongyang and serve as a stand-in for Kim. But analysts are quick to add it doesn't mean Jang is in line or being groomed to take over leadership. They said there are many questions about Kim's health and the regime's future. North Korea is also taking a harder line against the South. On Wednesday, the North Korean military threatened to close its border with the South beginning in December. It accused the South of heightening tension between the two sides. If North Korea goes ahead and closes the border, it could cut off road and rail routes between Seoul and the inter-Korean industrial complex in the North Korean border city of Gaeseong, North Korea watchers say. During 2008 LONDON – Analysts on the Asian Desk at MI6 say China's People's Liberation Army has moved as many as 150,000 troops to its border with North Korea, ostensibly to block refugees from fleeing into China in the event of the death of Kim Jong-II, the president of the pariah state, according to a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin. North Korea also has announced it will reinforce its border with South Korea after accusing its neighbor of "provocation beyond the danger level." The result, according to one analyst, is "the most explosive situation since the Korean War." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199180 United Kingdom 12/18/2010 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | another crap Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199158stop imagining weirdo occasion ombre says who, any official statement from russia or nk ? and how can you easily believe this crap yeah my fellow neighbouring country see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East. How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements? There will be no war. However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee. China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control. there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert. Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing. How can they fight a war? ICBM is enough to blow Singapore into ashes for seconds. do you want to try? Could you stop being a warmonger hiding behind some coconut trees in Malaysia??? |
Butterfly girl User ID: 865359 United States 12/18/2010 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Floating a thought to you guys.... US and NKorea have had a month to plan...what if regime change is their response next time? Obviously containment isn't working. And the US has an interest in keeping the North from developing their nuclear program further. I am thinking any nuclear material will be out of play immediately...special ops Last Edited by Butterfly girl on 12/18/2010 10:23 AM To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven... A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1193389 United States 12/18/2010 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too lazy to post a new thread.....this article just posted not too long ago... Quoting: Madigan[link to www.cnn.com] "Richardson is not in North Korea as an official U.S. envoy." I really don't understand what he thinks he can accomplish. . They just say hes not there officially so they can save face if something goes wrong. Its a game they play. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199158 Malaysia 12/18/2010 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | another moron i'm not from malaisi and i'm using proxy Could you stop being a warmonger hiding behind some coconut trees in Malaysia??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199180another crap stop imagining weirdo occasion ombre says who, any official statement from russia or nk ? and how can you easily believe this crap yeah my fellow neighbouring country see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East. How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements? There will be no war. However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee. China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control. there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert. Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing. How can they fight a war? ICBM is enough to blow Singapore into ashes for seconds. do you want to try? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199209 Singapore 12/18/2010 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | another moron Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199158i'm not from malaisi and i'm using proxy Could you stop being a warmonger hiding behind some coconut trees in Malaysia??? another crap stop imagining weirdo occasion ombre says who, any official statement from russia or nk ? and how can you easily believe this crap yeah my fellow neighbouring country see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East. How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements? There will be no war. However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee. China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control. there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert. Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing. How can they fight a war? ICBM is enough to blow Singapore into ashes for seconds. do you want to try? Ha ha, Proxy server in Malaysia? Not alot of people will say use ICBM on Singapore. Unless they are from M...... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1177236 France 12/18/2010 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... notice the potential get out for them with the "and cross the line". They could claim the shells did not cross, depending on where they want the line to be that day Quoting: goodmockingbirdJaney, greatly appreciate your astute commentary. But I am wondering if there may confusion in the phrase "and cross the line" from how its equivalent was delivered in Korean, as to how it is translated into English. In English, we have a whole 'depth of meaning' and social construct behind the concept of "crossing a line". It need not involve any sort of physical line at all, but means breaching some abstract standard or code of conduct, beyond which there are negative consequences. I wonder if the original Korean language refers to some physical boundary like a line on a map, or if it was loosely translated into our vernacular. The Norks could have meant "... if you cross latitude X and longitude Y", or it could have meant "... if your activities are extremely unacceptable to us". In English we could use the phrase "... cross the line" to mean either of those very, very different things. As I understood it NK would react militarily if shots were fired from this island - no matter where they shoot. |
Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 1199031 United Kingdom 12/18/2010 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... notice the potential get out for them with the "and cross the line". They could claim the shells did not cross, depending on where they want the line to be that day Quoting: Janey 1195887Janey, greatly appreciate your astute commentary. But I am wondering if there may confusion in the phrase "and cross the line" from how its equivalent was delivered in Korean, as to how it is translated into English. In English, we have a whole 'depth of meaning' and social construct behind the concept of "crossing a line". It need not involve any sort of physical line at all, but means breaching some abstract standard or code of conduct, beyond which there are negative consequences. I wonder if the original Korean language refers to some physical boundary like a line on a map, or if it was loosely translated into our vernacular. The Norks could have meant "... if you cross latitude X and longitude Y", or it could have meant "... if your activities are extremely unacceptable to us". In English we could use the phrase "... cross the line" to mean either of those very, very different things. yes totally agree. We do miss out on nuance in translations In this case it could well mean both. |
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godzilla85 User ID: 1077295 United States 12/18/2010 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too lazy to post a new thread.....this article just posted not too long ago... Quoting: Madigan[link to www.cnn.com] "Richardson is not in North Korea as an official U.S. envoy." I really don't understand what he thinks he can accomplish. . Only purpose he's good for now is as a hostage or cannon fodder |
Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 1199031 United Kingdom 12/18/2010 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stupid Southerners(South Koreans) keep provoking the North. Whatever the deadly outcome of a war will be the fault of the loudmouths from South Korea and the bloodsucking wretches from America. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1196013To say that you think Americans are "blood sucking wretches" you sure don't mind using a US proxy... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1177236 France 12/18/2010 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.montrealgazette.com] Solstice-eclipse overlap first in 456 years the sun and the moon are almost at their darkest at this point in time |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1177236 France 12/18/2010 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.montrealgazette.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1177236Solstice-eclipse overlap first in 456 years the sun and the moon are almost at their darkest at this point in time Its on tuesday. |
godzilla85 User ID: 1077295 United States 12/18/2010 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stupid Southerners(South Koreans) keep provoking the North. Whatever the deadly outcome of a war will be the fault of the loudmouths from South Korea and the bloodsucking wretches from America. Quoting: Lime Flavoured ReduxTo say that you think Americans are "blood sucking wretches" you sure don't mind using a US proxy... All I know is this.....if you live in America and you don't like it then get the hell out, no one is kept in this country against their will, except those who are in prison. I hate the constant complaining of people who probably don't even vote or have never been to a city council meeting to at the very least have their voice heard. Things mind you are not as good as I'd like but hey I got a home, electricity, food, and a steady job and I count my blessings...I guess that's not enough for some people. So I'll say it again, if you hate america and you are in it.....then get out.......and stay out and stop mooching off taxpayers |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1196013 United States 12/18/2010 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stupid Southerners(South Koreans) keep provoking the North. Whatever the deadly outcome of a war will be the fault of the loudmouths from South Korea and the bloodsucking wretches from America. Quoting: Lime Flavoured ReduxTo say that you think Americans are "blood sucking wretches" you sure don't mind using a US proxy... US proxy = puppet = South Korea |
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Nikki_LaVey User ID: 1120752 United States 12/18/2010 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stupid Southerners(South Koreans) keep provoking the North. Whatever the deadly outcome of a war will be the fault of the loudmouths from South Korea and the bloodsucking wretches from America. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1196013How has the south provoked the north? How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |