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North Korea warns it will bomb South Korea if it goes ahead with military drills on Yeonpyeong

 
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12/18/2010 10:10 AM
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says who, any official statement from russia or nk ?

and how can you easily believe this crap



yeah my fellow neighbouring country

see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming



It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East.

How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements?

There will be no war.

However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee.

China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control.

bsflag


there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert.



Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff
 Quoting: Janey 1195887



There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing.
How can they fight a war?
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12/18/2010 10:11 AM
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But the South has got to go through with these drills, to show they will not be bullied.
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you can sink their ships and shell their islands but a DRILL will teach the bullies?

doubtful...
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12/18/2010 10:12 AM
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Re: North Korea warns it will bomb South Korea if it goes ahead with military drills on Yeonpyeong
says who, any official statement from russia or nk ?

and how can you easily believe this crap



yeah my fellow neighbouring country

see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming



It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East.

How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements?

There will be no war.

However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee.

China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control.

bsflag


there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert.



Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff



There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing.
How can they fight a war?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199192

ICBM is enough to blow Singapore into ashes for seconds. do you want to try?
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12/18/2010 10:12 AM
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related link, please

says who, any official statement from russia or nk ?

and how can you easily believe this crap



yeah my fellow neighbouring country

see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming



It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East.

How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements?

There will be no war.

However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee.

China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control.

bsflag


there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert.



Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff
 Quoting: Janey 1195887
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12/18/2010 10:13 AM
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the more you see it , the more clear you will get it

seek and you shall find

says who, any official statement from russia or nk ?

and how can you easily believe this crap



yeah my fellow neighbouring country

see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming



It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East.

How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements?

There will be no war.

However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee.

China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control.

bsflag


there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert.



Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff



There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing.
How can they fight a war?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199192
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12/18/2010 10:15 AM
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Would somebody please shoot the little fuck?
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12/18/2010 10:17 AM
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another crapbsflag bsflag bsflag

stop imagining weirdo occasion ombre


says who, any official statement from russia or nk ?

and how can you easily believe this crap



yeah my fellow neighbouring country

see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming



It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East.

How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements?

There will be no war.

However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee.

China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control.

bsflag


there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert.



Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff



There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing.
How can they fight a war?

ICBM is enough to blow Singapore into ashes for seconds. do you want to try?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199180
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12/18/2010 10:17 AM
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Re: North Korea warns it will bomb South Korea if it goes ahead with military drills on Yeonpyeong
... notice the potential get out for them with the "and cross the line". They could claim the shells did not cross, depending on where they want the line to be that day
 Quoting: Janey 1195887


Janey, greatly appreciate your astute commentary.

But I am wondering if there may confusion in the phrase "and cross the line" from how its equivalent was delivered in Korean, as to how it is translated into English.

In English, we have a whole 'depth of meaning' and social construct behind the concept of "crossing a line". It need not involve any sort of physical line at all, but means breaching some abstract standard or code of conduct, beyond which there are negative consequences.

I wonder if the original Korean language refers to some physical boundary like a line on a map, or if it was loosely translated into our vernacular.

The Norks could have meant "... if you cross latitude X and longitude Y", or it could have meant "... if your activities are extremely unacceptable to us".

In English we could use the phrase "... cross the line" to mean either of those very, very different things.
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12/18/2010 10:18 AM
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yeah...just killed yourself

we will not cry for it, dont worry whatever


Would somebody please shoot the little fuck?
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12/18/2010 10:21 AM
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Re: North Korea warns it will bomb South Korea if it goes ahead with military drills on Yeonpyeong
During 2008

The Financial Times in Britain reported that the number of Chinese soldiers guarding the border has gone up since September amid ``mounting concerns about the health of Kim Jong-il."

Citing unnamed U.S. officials, the report said ``the People's Liberation Army (of China) has stationed more soldiers on the border to prepare for any possible influx of refugees due to instability or regime change in North Korea."
It said the increase in Chinese troops was not ``dramatic." But in addition to more soldiers, the Chinese military is also constructing more fences and installations at key border outposts, according to the report.
It said American and South Korean spy agencies believe Kim indeed suffered a stroke in August and that it affected the left side of his body.

The report said there are concerns about how long Kim can hold on to power if he is partially paralyzed.
Some reports said there may be a shift in power taking place in Pyongyang. This week, news reports speculated Kim's brother-in-law, Jang Song-taek, is consolidating power.
Some analysts said Jang is effectively standing in for Kim. They said he may now be in charge of receiving orders from Kim and relaying them to senior officials.

Jang reportedly has powerful allies and contacts within the ruling Workers' Party and the military. That could make him the second most powerful figure in Pyongyang and serve as a stand-in for Kim.
But analysts are quick to add it doesn't mean Jang is in line or being groomed to take over leadership. They said there are many questions about Kim's health and the regime's future.

North Korea is also taking a harder line against the South. On Wednesday, the North Korean military threatened to close its border with the South beginning in December. It accused the South of heightening tension between the two sides.
If North Korea goes ahead and closes the border, it could cut off road and rail routes between Seoul and the inter-Korean industrial complex in the North Korean border city of Gaeseong, North Korea watchers say.

During 2008

LONDON – Analysts on the Asian Desk at MI6 say China's People's Liberation Army has moved as many as 150,000 troops to its border with North Korea, ostensibly to block refugees from fleeing into China in the event of the death of Kim Jong-II, the president of the pariah state, according to a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

North Korea also has announced it will reinforce its border with South Korea after accusing its neighbor of "provocation beyond the danger level."

The result, according to one analyst, is "the most explosive situation since the Korean War."
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12/18/2010 10:21 AM
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Re: North Korea warns it will bomb South Korea if it goes ahead with military drills on Yeonpyeong
another crapbsflag bsflag bsflag

stop imagining weirdo occasion ombre






says who, any official statement from russia or nk ?

and how can you easily believe this crap



yeah my fellow neighbouring country

see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming



It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East.

How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements?

There will be no war.

However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee.

China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control.

bsflag


there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert.



Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff



There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing.
How can they fight a war?

ICBM is enough to blow Singapore into ashes for seconds. do you want to try?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199158

Could you stop being a warmonger hiding behind some coconut trees in Malaysia??? bsflag whatever
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12/18/2010 10:22 AM

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Floating a thought to you guys....

US and NKorea have had a month to plan...what if regime change is their response next time? Obviously containment isn't working. And the US has an interest in keeping the North from developing their nuclear program further.

I am thinking any nuclear material will be out of play immediately...special ops

Last Edited by Butterfly girl on 12/18/2010 10:23 AM
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12/18/2010 10:22 AM
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Too lazy to post a new thread.....this article just posted not too long ago...

[link to www.cnn.com]

"Richardson is not in North Korea as an official U.S. envoy."



I really don't understand what he thinks he can accomplish.


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 Quoting: Madigan



They just say hes not there officially so they can save face if something goes wrong. Its a game they play.
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12/18/2010 10:23 AM
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It will start.... probably another day or 2 once Richardson leaves
they are not going to do it while he is there...
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12/18/2010 10:26 AM
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another moron

i'm not from malaisi and i'm using proxy

Could you stop being a warmonger hiding behind some coconut trees in Malaysia???


another crapbsflag bsflag bsflag

stop imagining weirdo occasion ombre






says who, any official statement from russia or nk ?

and how can you easily believe this crap



yeah my fellow neighbouring country

see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming



It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East.

How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements?

There will be no war.

However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee.

China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control.

bsflag


there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert.



Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff



There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing.
How can they fight a war?

ICBM is enough to blow Singapore into ashes for seconds. do you want to try?


bsflag whatever
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199180
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12/18/2010 10:28 AM
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another moron

i'm not from malaisi and i'm using proxy


Could you stop being a warmonger hiding behind some coconut trees in Malaysia???


another crapbsflag bsflag bsflag

stop imagining weirdo occasion ombre






says who, any official statement from russia or nk ?

and how can you easily believe this crap



yeah my fellow neighbouring country

see..we all realized it but all this freakin morons are all day dreaming



It funny there are no troops deployment in China and Russia Far East.

How can war start without these two North Korea Allies making troop movements?

There will be no war.

However, i do know china has 500,000 army forces at the Border of North Korea to block refugee.

China afraid this is the next Berlin Wall collapse in the East. It may prepare to take over North Korea if stuff went out of control.

bsflag


there is a massive troop presence from Russia, which is building on the border. They even officially announced they were on alert.



Russia made the official statement a few days ago. A chap called General Makarov of their General Staff



There are even problems at the Russian Army winter clothing.
How can they fight a war?

ICBM is enough to blow Singapore into ashes for seconds. do you want to try?


bsflag whatever

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199158



Ha ha, Proxy server in Malaysia?
Not alot of people will say use ICBM on Singapore.
Unless they are from M......
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12/18/2010 10:32 AM
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The "Malaysian" guy claims that he's in N.Korea.
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Do not worry Obama is playing golf today and does not give a f-ck about this! Rest assurred Obamaturds will destroy this world! iamwith
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12/18/2010 10:33 AM
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Re: North Korea warns it will bomb South Korea if it goes ahead with military drills on Yeonpyeong
... notice the potential get out for them with the "and cross the line". They could claim the shells did not cross, depending on where they want the line to be that day


Janey, greatly appreciate your astute commentary.

But I am wondering if there may confusion in the phrase "and cross the line" from how its equivalent was delivered in Korean, as to how it is translated into English.

In English, we have a whole 'depth of meaning' and social construct behind the concept of "crossing a line". It need not involve any sort of physical line at all, but means breaching some abstract standard or code of conduct, beyond which there are negative consequences.

I wonder if the original Korean language refers to some physical boundary like a line on a map, or if it was loosely translated into our vernacular.

The Norks could have meant "... if you cross latitude X and longitude Y", or it could have meant "... if your activities are extremely unacceptable to us".

In English we could use the phrase "... cross the line" to mean either of those very, very different things.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


As I understood it NK would react militarily if shots were fired from this island - no matter where they shoot.
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Re: North Korea warns it will bomb South Korea if it goes ahead with military drills on Yeonpyeong
... notice the potential get out for them with the "and cross the line". They could claim the shells did not cross, depending on where they want the line to be that day


Janey, greatly appreciate your astute commentary.

But I am wondering if there may confusion in the phrase "and cross the line" from how its equivalent was delivered in Korean, as to how it is translated into English.

In English, we have a whole 'depth of meaning' and social construct behind the concept of "crossing a line". It need not involve any sort of physical line at all, but means breaching some abstract standard or code of conduct, beyond which there are negative consequences.

I wonder if the original Korean language refers to some physical boundary like a line on a map, or if it was loosely translated into our vernacular.

The Norks could have meant "... if you cross latitude X and longitude Y", or it could have meant "... if your activities are extremely unacceptable to us".

In English we could use the phrase "... cross the line" to mean either of those very, very different things.


yes totally agree. We do miss out on nuance in translations
 Quoting: Janey 1195887


In this case it could well mean both.
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Re: North Korea warns it will bomb South Korea if it goes ahead with military drills on Yeonpyeong
Stupid Southerners(South Koreans) keep provoking the North. Whatever the deadly outcome of a war will be the fault of the loudmouths from South Korea and the bloodsucking wretches from America.
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The "Malaysian" guy claims that he's in N.Korea.
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Who me? I'm from Scotland dont you knoe? afro
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Re: North Korea warns it will bomb South Korea if it goes ahead with military drills on Yeonpyeong
Too lazy to post a new thread.....this article just posted not too long ago...

[link to www.cnn.com]

"Richardson is not in North Korea as an official U.S. envoy."



I really don't understand what he thinks he can accomplish.


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 Quoting: Madigan


Only purpose he's good for now is as a hostage or cannon fodder
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Stupid Southerners(South Koreans) keep provoking the North. Whatever the deadly outcome of a war will be the fault of the loudmouths from South Korea and the bloodsucking wretches from America.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1196013


To say that you think Americans are "blood sucking wretches" you sure don't mind using a US proxy...
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Solstice-eclipse overlap first in 456 years

the sun and the moon are almost at their darkest at this point in time
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[link to www.montrealgazette.com]

Solstice-eclipse overlap first in 456 years

the sun and the moon are almost at their darkest at this point in time
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Its on tuesday.
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12/18/2010 10:45 AM
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Stupid Southerners(South Koreans) keep provoking the North. Whatever the deadly outcome of a war will be the fault of the loudmouths from South Korea and the bloodsucking wretches from America.


To say that you think Americans are "blood sucking wretches" you sure don't mind using a US proxy...
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


All I know is this.....if you live in America and you don't like it then get the hell out, no one is kept in this country against their will, except those who are in prison. I hate the constant complaining of people who probably don't even vote or have never been to a city council meeting to at the very least have their voice heard. Things mind you are not as good as I'd like but hey I got a home, electricity, food, and a steady job and I count my blessings...I guess that's not enough for some people. So I'll say it again, if you hate america and you are in it.....then get out.......and stay out and stop mooching off taxpayers
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Stupid Southerners(South Koreans) keep provoking the North. Whatever the deadly outcome of a war will be the fault of the loudmouths from South Korea and the bloodsucking wretches from America.


To say that you think Americans are "blood sucking wretches" you sure don't mind using a US proxy...
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux

US proxy = puppet = South Korea
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12/18/2010 10:47 AM
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haha..now you are confusing mehiding

there will be no war, dont be afraid


The "Malaysian" guy claims that he's in N.Korea.

Who me? I'm from Scotland dont you knoe? afro
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Stupid Southerners(South Koreans) keep provoking the North. Whatever the deadly outcome of a war will be the fault of the loudmouths from South Korea and the bloodsucking wretches from America.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1196013


How has the south provoked the north?
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