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Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.

 
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Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
I feel that the lines of right and wrong can become blurred... things are not black and white, but often a shade of gray.

Further, just because the government says that a substance is illegal I do not feel that someone has done wrong in distributing said substance (i.e. marijuana).

To get to my question, interested to hear the GLP users comment on whether it is ever justified to onto another as they have done onto you...

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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
Most people get the idea of Karma wrong even those who should no better. Who you are is a result of past Karma (desires, actions, etc...) and who you will be will be a result of your present actions and desires. Time and place is incidental.

As an example: say you are assaulted by someone in the street. The assault may have nothing at all to do with your karma but it will have everything to do with your assailant's past karma. Your reaction to the assault, however, will affect what you are in the future.

So should you turn the other cheek? Up to you. But some consider that if you offer the fruits of any activity to the divine then you incur no karma for the deed.
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
karma happens believe me even if you have no bad intentions after being hurt or whatever

those who end up with karma simply bring it on to themselves, no need to do anything to them as it always does happen sooner or later

kind of like now in our country, the corrupt are being exposed and thought they can get away with anything paid money to hush it but no matter what anyone does it will come back
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
The "no" above should be "know". My spelling and grammar have all gone to hell today.
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
Most people get the idea of Karma wrong even those who should no better. Who you are is a result of past Karma (desires, actions, etc...) and who you will be will be a result of your present actions and desires. Time and place is incidental.

As an example: say you are assaulted by someone in the street. The assault may have nothing at all to do with your karma but it will have everything to do with your assailant's past karma. Your reaction to the assault, however, will affect what you are in the future.

So should you turn the other cheek? Up to you. But some consider that if you offer the fruits of any activity to the divine then you incur no karma for the deed.
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Thanks for that explanation. Usually the term karma is just used to blame the victim for whatever has happened to them.
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The beauty of KARMA is that you do not have to do a thing. The "universe" will see they are repaid justly for what they did (or failed) to do to you!

If you take it into your own hands, then you short circuit the karma cycle and risk your bad deed of retribution bouncing back on you!

Just walk away and watch and wait. Misfortune of one sort or another will come there way - and usually sooner than later!
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Think of karma as a door of kinetic function. Each function has a harmonic frequency much like wind blowing across glass soda bottles with varying amounts of contents will produce different frequency tones.

When an initiator of a kinetic, you for example, open the door of hate, the energy of hate certainly does radiate out from you. The problem is a door is a TWO WAY MEDIUM. What is a tuned port established to radiate is also a tuned antenna and receptor to that same energy.

What goes out also permits to come in.
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
karma happens believe me even if you have no bad intentions after being hurt or whatever

those who end up with karma simply bring it on to themselves, no need to do anything to them as it always does happen sooner or later

kind of like now in our country, the corrupt are being exposed and thought they can get away with anything paid money to hush it but no matter what anyone does it will come back
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199759


But so many have already gotten away. The most henious communist torturers lived nice, quiet lives in their old age with good pensions etc... Financial fraudsters have gotten away with hijaking the American constitution for over 100 years and died in palaces, etc...

You are misusing the word karma, which is quite philosophically specific. That it has been misused for a long time is no reason to keep on misusing it.
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
Think of karma as a door of kinetic function. Each function has a harmonic frequency much like wind blowing across glass soda bottles with varying amounts of contents will produce different frequency tones.

When an initiator of a kinetic, you for example, open the door of hate, the energy of hate certainly does radiate out from you. The problem is a door is a TWO WAY MEDIUM. What is a tuned port established to radiate is also a tuned antenna and receptor to that same energy.

What goes out also permits to come in.
 Quoting: tkwasny

Upon those that do you wrong, wish wellness and healing so you will become well and healed. As you love others so shall you receive love from others. Tuned ports are TWO WAY PORTALS. Be careful what you wish for.
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
The beauty of KARMA is that you do not have to do a thing. The "universe" will see they are repaid justly for what they did (or failed) to do to you!

If you take it into your own hands, then you short circuit the karma cycle and risk your bad deed of retribution bouncing back on you!

Just walk away and watch and wait. Misfortune of one sort or another will come there way - and usually sooner than later!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 642285

But if you wish for something bad to happen to them, you end ep incurring karma yourself. It's hard though, I must admit. When someone does us wrong, we want so much for them to be taught a lesson. But it's a trap! Instead wish them well, and walk away. It's the key to finally being free.
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
I don't like people who are vindictive, but that's just me. It's better to forgive and actually makes you feel better. Sometimes revenge can backfire on a person. You can waste a lot of energy trying to get even when it would be better to just move on.
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I think in your heart you already know the answer to your question OP. You just want someone to tell you it's ok to do what you know is wrong...
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
I don't like people who are vindictive, but that's just me. It's better to forgive and actually makes you feel better. Sometimes revenge can backfire on a person. You can waste a lot of energy trying to get even when it would be better to just move on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145382

Very few can actually do this. Most hold long term grudges, and it's so damaging to the soul.
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
I feel that the lines of right and wrong can become blurred... things are not black and white, but often a shade of gray.

Further, just because the government says that a substance is illegal I do not feel that someone has done wrong in distributing said substance (i.e. marijuana).

To get to my question, interested to hear the GLP users comment on whether it is ever justified to onto another as they have done onto you...

bonghit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199758

To do to them as they've done to you would bring you down to their level. Now you're no better than them, and to criticize them would make you a hypocrite. It's better to rise above it, and walk away. Hard to do, I know.
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
I don't like people who are vindictive, but that's just me. It's better to forgive and actually makes you feel better. Sometimes revenge can backfire on a person. You can waste a lot of energy trying to get even when it would be better to just move on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145382


lllll

Very well stated.

Anger, hate and vindictiveness only lead to being unhappy. Let go of them and be happy.



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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
I don't like people who are vindictive, but that's just me. It's better to forgive and actually makes you feel better. Sometimes revenge can backfire on a person. You can waste a lot of energy trying to get even when it would be better to just move on.

Very few can actually do this. Most hold long term grudges, and it's so damaging to the soul.
 Quoting: Smoulderin'Gal

Damage to the soul. Well said. A time tornado that like a runaway freight train downhill gathers momentum. Maybe after your death when you become a time dweller inside this soul, and you come upon this time tornado, your spirit will become stuck in its currents and you cannot escape. You just keep "ground hog day" time travelling and you can't stop it because your dead now and you have no free will.
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Upon those that do you wrong, wish wellness and healing so you will become well and healed. As you love others so shall you receive love from others. Tuned ports are TWO WAY PORTALS. Be careful what you wish for.
 Quoting: tkwasny

Beautiful hf
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
I don't like people who are vindictive, but that's just me. It's better to forgive and actually makes you feel better. Sometimes revenge can backfire on a person. You can waste a lot of energy trying to get even when it would be better to just move on.

Very few can actually do this. Most hold long term grudges, and it's so damaging to the soul.

Damage to the soul. Well said. A time tornado that like a runaway freight train downhill gathers momentum. Maybe after your death when you become a time dweller inside this soul, and you come upon this time tornado, your spirit will become stuck in its currents and you cannot escape. You just keep "ground hog day" time travelling and you can't stop it because your dead now and you have no free will.
 Quoting: tkwasny

Agreed, and an interesting way to explain how hatred holds one back. That's why I said to let go is to finally be free.
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I think in your heart you already know the answer to your question OP. You just want someone to tell you it's ok to do what you know is wrong...
 Quoting: 1123581321
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Re: Karma -- if someone does you wrong is it wrong to return the favour?? Its all shades of gray.
It's been my observation that karma varies with the awareness of the individual. Those who are aware experience the karmic results of their actions quickly, and learn from the experience. Those who are asleep and unconscious may have a long delay before getting the balancing they have incurred, and if they remain asleep may not learn from it and so have to repeat it.

The above applies to humans with souls, those who are in evolutionary training to become greater beings. It does not seem to apply to the soulless, which is why the most evil of persons can live long and prosperous lives: they are not subject to the law of karma because they have no immortal soul

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