KATLA !! - Heads up... Lava knocking at the door???

Dude, UK tards like you are doomed if you dont prepare.
I have several friends in UK, well prepared. They = non-tards.

Get off your ass and wake up. This makes a mini ice age ever 300 years, and its past due.

It was called, "the event that changed the face of Europe forever"...for what reason, I'm not sure. I dont study it intently, just more than most. Why? Because it always erupts big following Eyj, and Eyj erupted in march, - May.

Europe

-No farming from I believe the 60th parallel up for 2-4 years.
-Russia had a 4-6 year winter. 10 years in several places
-It froze many displaced people and soldiers left around after WWI
-Nations like UK, Norway, Russia all had to import everything.
-It froze many harbors which needed to be broken daily
-Many lost this jobs but switched to snow removal, ice removal, firewood, etc.

USA

-Chesapeake bay froze solid in Washington DC
-Ash was found as far south as New jersey
-Crops were ruined in several central states, etc.

There was no air travel back then. Now, most thing depend on it. It could blow big, small, off and on, or not at all but, if it blows, the ash destroyed jet engines. Only prop planes will be able to fly because their air can be filtered. Many air forces will be grounded, and many satellite controlled systems will fail above the equator. Missile guidance systems will be toast in the North as well. An example is, NY could get a winter for two years straight. UPS, FEDEX, USPS = stand still for overseas stuff. Shipping via ships will be the only way.

Katla blows every 6-80 years.
Katla always blows following Eyj
Eyj blows every 300 - 500 or so years
When every Eyj blows, Katla has a major eruption

...and trust me. The British elite have been waiting for this. This is why I say HEADS UP. They wont like not having their air forces and satellites....

LOL!!! I really needed that laugh!

Inflation starts again in Eyjafjallajökull volcano
Posted on December 21, 2010 by Jón Frímann
After a few months of a period of stability in Eyjafjallajökull volcano after the eruption ended on the 28th of May 2010. There seems to be more instability starting again in Eyjafjallajökull volcano. This instability can so far only be seen on GPS sensors around the volcano. So far the inflation that is starting at medium rate, about 5mm on every 24 hours or so. This is clear when a early results (not error corrected) are checked from Icelandic Met Office GPS network. The trigger for the current instability appears to be a sharp deflation that took place in Eyjafjallajökull volcano few days ago.

[link to www.jonfr.com]

Don't forget the Spanish flu...

TO CORRECT:

If Katla erupts, it means a period of 1-2 months with lots of 3-5 day interruptions of no air traffic. After the eruption, the airplanes will be able to fly again.

It's so uninformed to scare people that when Katla erupts it will be 2-4 years of no flights worldwide.

Katla actually generally erupts with a similar strength as Eyjafjallajokull (VEI4), but sometimes 10 times more. And non rare ocasions 100 times more, those with dramatic effects the year following (years 934, 1783)

Stop scaring people. Every scenario can happen. The most likely is an eruption and effects similar to last April.

And the Spanish flu was mostly due to the World War.
Yes, maybe the cold winters also helped with this.

Last big damaging eruption for Europe was 1783 Grimsvotn's Laki fissure (actually not Katla). It was bad for Europe, and certainly it would be a disaster today for Europe. But, this happens rarely every once in 1000 years. Likely, Katla will erupt in soon, it will be big, disrupting for Europe airplanes, for a while, but likely no disaster.

Yes, Laki is unlikely, but it has the potential to be history-changing. Reputable historians have argued that the 1783 eruption, in causing extensive crop failure, was instrumental in the run-up to the French Revolution in 1789. Overall it may have killed 6 million people worldwide, a lot for the time.

GLP doomsters would be ecstatic at the prospect of this kind of thing:

'The summer of the year 1783 was an amazing and portentous one, and full of horrible phaenomena; for besides the alarming meteors and tremendous thunder-storms that affrighted and distressed the different counties of this kingdom, the peculiar haze, or smokey fog, that prevailed for many weeks in this island, and in every part of Europe, and even beyond its limits, was a most extraordinary appearance, unlike anything known within the memory of man. By my journal I find that I had noticed this strange occurrence from June 23 to July 20 inclusive, during which period the wind varied to every quarter without making any alteration in the air. The sun, at noon, looked as blank as a clouded moon, and shed a rust- coloured ferruginous light on the ground, and floors of rooms; but was particularly lurid and blood-coloured at rising and setting. All the time the heat was so intense that butchers' meat could hardly be eaten on the day after it was killed; and the flies swarmed so in the lanes and hedges that they rendered the horses half frantic, and riding irksome. The country people began to look, with a superstitious awe, at the red, louring aspect of the sun; [...]'

-Gilbert White, Hampshire, UK.

update?

[link to en.vedur.is]

For general updates, I strongly recommend the Eruptions blog, one of the best blogs on the net, I think:

[link to bigthink.com]


Not just maintained by an expert volcanologist, most of the commenters are experts on the field.

With regard to Katla, updates may get better:

[link to bigthink.com]

Dr Klemetti asks:

'Eruptions readers, if you had to pick the top 5 volcanoes you'd like to read an extended weekly review on, what would they be? '

First out of the gate is a colleague who suggests:

"The top list for Iceland.

#1: Eyjafjallajökull
#2: Hekla
#3: Katla
#4: Krísuvík
#5: Kverkfjöll
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Additional volcanoes if nothing fits your watching list above.
#6: Askja
#7: Esjufjöll"

[That sounds like a reasonable set of priorities for Northern Europeans. One might want to add Vesuvius to that list of course. Most of the other Mediterranean volcanoes (Stromboli, Etna etc) are troublesome on a local scale. Same with Vesuvius, but it has the potential to kill a lot more people in one shot.]

That is INCORRECT and I'm not scaring people. I'm alerting people. Being scared is for children, elderly, and the handicapped. If you fall under that category, find someone to help you.

Your description is more of a Eyj or mild Katla description. When Eyj erupted in 1800s, it erupted for 2 years, then Katla blew. That sent Russia into a deep freeze for 10 years. That would definitely mess up air travel for years. I don't have time to look up the stories I read but they are all on the net. Do it yourself.

If people prepare for the worse of the events and a mild event happens, big deal. They don't have to grocery shop for a while. If they act passive and plan for a mild baby event and it does erupt, they could starve to death. BIG difference and a no brainer.

Oh yeah, I have a friend who works for American Airlines. After 30 years they changed his job. His new job is to find new airports and hangars from the Washington DC down while re-negotiating leases with other airports / terminals. That is one of the reasons I have been watching this. That and the fact that the British elite were trying to panic the South and evacuate the gulf....

Very cool and thanks

No it doesn't. You're thinking of Laki. The 1783-4 eruption of Laki had severe effects on crop yields in Europe for several years, but it's a bit strong to call it a mini ice age. It should also be noted that the Little Ice Age was (according to most authorities) was still ongoing at the time - 1770 has been identified as one of the climatic minima, so the effect of Laki may have affected an already stressed agricultural system.

Snippet as per Trinity's request. More info at the link.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


"Eyjafjallajökull lies 25 km[20] west of another subglacial volcano, Katla, under the Mýrdalsjökull ice cap, which is much more active and known for its powerful subglacial eruptions and its large magma chamber. Each of the eruptions of Eyjafjallajökull in 920, 1612, and 1821-1823 has preceded an eruption of Katla.[21] Katla has not displayed any unusual activity (such as expansion of the crust or seismic activity) during the 2010 eruptions of Eyjafjallajökull, though geologists have been concerned about the general instability of the larger volcano since 1999. Some geophysicists in Iceland believe that the Eyjafjallajökull eruption may trigger an eruption of Katla, which would cause major flooding due to melting of glacial ice and send up massive plumes of ash.[21][22] On 20 April 2010 Icelandic President Ólafur Grímsson said "the time for Katla to erupt is coming close...we [Iceland] have prepared...it is high time for European governments and airline authorities all over the world to start planning for the eventual Katla eruption".[23]

As of June 2010, volcanologists are continuing to monitor Katla, aware that any eruption from Katla following an eruption from Eyjafjallajökull has historically occurred within months of an Eyjafjallajökull eruption. The Icelandic Meteorological Office updates its website with reports of quakes both at Eyjafjallajökull and Katla[18]"....

I do consider Icelanic eruptions to be a matter of concern, but I also thinking you are layering on the scary Doom far too thickly. For a start, restrictions on air travel are a matter for economic concern, no-one wants the current slump made worse - *but they do not affect the food supply*. (Actually, there are plenty of people who would argue we should fly a bit less. There is some merit to the argument.)

Taking just the UK, something that not a lot of people realise is that, even with globalisation, about 52% of UK vegetables are British-grown. But even more that are actually very local. 65% of the remainder is shipped from the Netherlands by sea (even more local to London than, say, Newcastle.) No significant fraction of the UK food supply (veg, fruit, meat...) is shipped by air. Makes non economic sense at the best of times.

So it's local (meaning pan-European) food supplies that are the worry. The biggest issue would be a repeat of Laki in 1783-4 that damaged Northern European crop yields. That would be a problem right now, though it doesn't seem likely.

I won't even bother to address the tin-foil hat nonsense about the British elite and the Gulf.

To be honest with you, I'm not sure what you just addressed. Never mentioned flying in vegetables.

Anyway, if Russia went into a mini ice age in early 1800s that lasted 10 years, and froze up pretty good for a few years in the 1900s, pretty safe to say there wont be much gardening going on ANYWHERE near the 50th parallel, and pretty scare framing from from the 60th to the 50th. Yes, it all depends on why type event we see. (But given all the records being broken such as record EQs, hurricanes, tornadoes, missing solar cycle...who would ever want to chance not prepping for Katla.


Look at Iceland, follow the lines.
[link to www.gov.nf.ca]

PS - Russia didn't go into a 10 year iceage without being deprived of Sun. Where did the Sun go? Ash. Ash = no flying.
Do the math please on worse case scenario. You have best case covered.

I won't even bother to address the tin-foil hat nonsense about the British elite and the Gulf.


To be honest with you, I'm not sure what you just addressed. Never mentioned flying in vegetables.

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Ah, bait & switch, what a classic. You said earlier in this thread:


Dude, UK tards like you are doomed if you dont prepare.
I have several friends in UK, well prepared. They = non-tards.

Get off your ass and wake up. This makes a mini ice age ever 300 years, and its past due.
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I pointed out a few salient facts about the UK (and Northern European) food supply, including the irrelevance of air travel) that negate your analysis. Which you have not addressed.

Instead you switch to Russia, dropping in some weird extra bit about 50 degrees north latitude.


Anyway, if Russia went into a mini ice age in early 1800s that lasted 10 years, and froze up pretty good for a few years in the 1900s, pretty safe to say there wont be much gardening going on ANYWHERE near the 50th parallel, and pretty scare framing from from the 60th to the 50th. Yes, it all depends on why type event we see. (But given all the records being broken such as record EQs, hurricanes, tornadoes, missing solar cycle...who would ever want to chance not prepping for Katla.
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London, of course, is at around latitude 51.5N. The southernmost point of Russia at the time you are speaking of was at around 40.0N. And still is now. There was a climatic problem in Tsarist Russia[1] in the early 1800s agreed, so you now qualify for the coveted award of 'not even wrong!' - it's not a compliment, trust me.

But it has no resonance for locations around 50.0 (and around zero longitude) at the intersection of the Atlantic weather system with the Continental and Arctic systems that dominate most of European Russia.


Look at Iceland, follow the lines.
[link to www.gov.nf.ca]
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What. Please to explain what Newfoundland and Labrador have to do with it? Double bait and switch. Don't work.

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No. Any crop shortages in Russia at the time were not due to lack of jet travel. Please read some history.

[1] You've overcooked this, but let's let it lie for now.

ALERT! Look at this.

Frequency = increased big time. More than triple
Intensity of tremors = Around 2.0 = not good
Location = west ridge. Same place Katla always blows out.

[link to en.vedur.is]

This is no joke. It could blow small, it could blow big. It could blow little this week, massive next week. It could never blow. It could blow for 3 months straight or six months straight. It could blow tonight, and it could blow again in a year from now.


The point is, If you live at the 60th parallel or above, stock up on items you need to make it through zero summer weather for a few years to be safe. I would expect fall and spring like weather all summer. If you depend on overseas shipping via airlines to get your consumables in, DONT. Prepare on ocean freighters only. JETS CANT FLY IN HEAVY, PERSISTENT ASH. Stock up accordingly. UK, Norway, Russia and Canada will be hit the hardest. UK and Norway should find trading partners and establish relationships NOW while its easy.

[link to en.vedur.is]

OP,

hang in there, you'll get your mini-ice-age doom SOMEHOW

;)

No doom here bro. I'm good. What about you? You ok? Just checking. The only thing worse than sheep are blind sheep.

THIS BABY IS GOING TO BLOW!!! PIN!!!

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