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Dear brother ………. in our Lord Jesus Christ's Name,

As we read in Acts 2:38, this is the only way to be baptized, done in Jesus' Name.

We saw Peter and John who met persons baptized by John the Baptist as written in Acts 19:1-6 in water and repentance. Peter and John asked them if they had heard about the Holy Ghost as John the Baptist described this baptism as holy, and that fire should come upon them. So they allowed Peter and John who were filled with the Holy Ghost to lay hands upon them and they were baptized with the Holy Ghost as John the Baptist had spoken of.

I was baptized as most Christians of this day through repentance and water baptism, but no one spoke of the Holy Ghost and fire that John the Baptist spoke of. Well, I fell back in the ways of this generation's Christianity without the Holy Ghost to dwell inside me and to guide me. I visited so many types of churches across America which revealed they lacked the real fruit of the Holy Ghost. Oh, they were nice Christian people but I knew I was missing something in my walk with Lord Jesus Who I supposed was leading me.

Well, in 1983 while in the Washington, D.C. area I was walking down a street and a Voice said "Go in there." It was a Holiness Pentecostal Church. So I entered and sat near the back. This was a Wednesday service and this preacher said, "Is there anyone else who wants to be baptized according to Acts 2:38?" So a few people went to the front to be baptized. Then the Lord said told me, "Get baptized in My Name, Jesus."

So I ran up there and was given to be baptized in the Name of Lord Jesus according to Acts 2:38. So after that, all of them that were baptized went up into a room for the brethren of this church to lay hands upon them who were seeking to be filled with the Holy Ghost as written in Acts 2:1-4 and also in Acts 19:1-6

Well, when everyone joined to pray, they had hands laid upon them, but I was left alone without anyone to lay hands upon me. The Lord said, "Go the bathroom" of which I did and He said "You can leave now." I went down the street and after a short time the Holy Ghost and fire fell upon me and I shouted in unknown tongues. I do remember hearing a preacher on the radio preach on I Corinthians 2:1-5. That day I received spiritual power that I had asked of the Lord Jesus. He even had me not to join to any church as a member. Oh, I was given to visit so many churches as a guest, even given to speak in the pulpit, and the Lord gave me to speak each time in a instant by the Holy Ghost.

I preach such hard words that many brethren cannot bear for me to speak. They get so convicted, but I have had a whole church drop to the floor in repentance from the pulpit on down across this Earth in these last hours before He gathers His very elect chosen faithful few who do the Father's will each day, with no compromise. Matthew 5:17-19, John 15:10-12 and John 14:15-18.

We have to have a clean vessel for Him to be able to fill it with new wine (the Holy Ghost and fire). So be holy as He is holy and be found liken II Peter 3:14. Remember to do what is written in Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 while yet you have time.

One day according to Joel 2:31-32, Acts 2:19-20, and Matthew 24:29-31. He our Lord will come like a thief in the night during a time of both physical and spiritual darkness. We need to be wise virgins full of His Holy Ghost fire for His sent angels to see we are written in John 12:35-36.

Elijah


Messages of God's Servant Prophet Elijah are on the internet at:
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Korean: [link to blog.daum.net]

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Meh. Lord of the Rings was better.
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Why are you such a glory-hunter ???
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Who then is eligible to baptize us?

They must be full of the new wine (the fulness of the Holy Spirit) to be able to give out new wine to others.

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Meh. Lord of the Rings was better.
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Preferred Terry Pratchet - Wyrd Sisters laugh
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Who then is eligible to baptize us?
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Mel Gibson.
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Again, huge ignorance going on with this Holy Ghost thing. this is NOT Elijah.
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Who then is eligible to baptize us?


Mel Gibson.
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Tom Cruise..lol!!!!
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Some may have to consider to have their baptism redone, as it was not done according to Acts 2:38. I myself had to undergo this as the pastor who did my former baptism was as I saw later, not a spiritual person and therefore incapable of transmitting the gift of the Holy Spirit.

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Greetings fellow Scribe! I like to consider myself as one also. I was wondering if you have a website I could check out, or any resources about whom you believe is Elijah's spirit working throughout the Earth.

I've been following your threads and you seem to be filled with the Holy Spirit and I'm glad you believe in the 3 fold baptism as well, many blessings!
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OK, you set the bait trap. Now, let's hide in the bushes and see how long it takes Lester to come our of his lair.
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OK, you set the bait trap. Now, let's hide in the bushes and see how long it takes Lester to come our of his lair.
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Boy, it would really be one for the blooper real if WingedLiger shows up instead!
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Greetings fellow Scribe! I like to consider myself as one also. I was wondering if you have a website I could check out, or any resources about whom you believe is Elijah's spirit working throughout the Earth.

I've been following your threads and you seem to be filled with the Holy Spirit and I'm glad you believe in the 3 fold baptism as well, many blessings!
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oh sorry I see the yahoo group in your first post now, is this man who calls himself Elijah, is he still in America?
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But when Yochanan saw many of the P'rushim and Tz'dukim coming to be immersed by him, he said to them, "You snakes! Who warned you to escape the coming punishment?

If you have really turned from your sins to God, produce fruit that will prove it!

And don't suppose you can comfort yourselves by saying, `Avraham is our father'! For I tell you that God can raise up for Avraham sons from these stones!

Already the axe is at the root of the trees, ready to strike; every tree that doesn't produce good fruit will be chopped down and thrown in the fire!

It's true that I am immersing you in water so that you might turn from sin to God; but the one coming after me is more powerful than I -- I'm not worthy even to carry his sandals -- and he will immerse you in the Ruach HaKodesh and in fire.

He has with him his winnowing fork; and he will clear out his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn but burning up the straw with unquenchable fire!"

Then Yeshua came from the Galil to the Yarden to be immersed by Yochanan.

But Yochanan tried to stop him. "You are coming to me? I ought to be immersed by you!"

However, Yeshua answered him, "Let it be this way now, because we should do everything righteousness requires." Then Yochanan let him.

As soon as Yeshua had been immersed, he came up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, he saw the Spirit of God coming down upon him like a dove,

and a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; I am well pleased with him."
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You seem torn... lol
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Who then is eligible to baptize us?

They must be full of the new wine (the fulness of the Holy Spirit) to be able to give out new wine to others.

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It's not necessary for anyone to babtize you. It's an inner purification and takes place within when a person is at the crossroad.
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Who then is eligible to baptize us?

They must be full of the new wine (the fulness of the Holy Spirit) to be able to give out new wine to others.

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It's not necessary for anyone to babtize you. It's an inner purification and takes place within when a person is at the crossroad.
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wouldn't that be considered the baptism of fire and Holy Spirit

there are 3 baptisms, water (physical) , and then the fire and Holy Spirit

water = Jesus
Holy spirit = Holy Spirit
Fire = Father God
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Who then is eligible to baptize us?

They must be full of the new wine (the fulness of the Holy Spirit) to be able to give out new wine to others.

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It's not necessary for anyone to babtize you. It's an inner purification and takes place within when a person is at the crossroad.
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wouldn't that be considered the baptism of fire and Holy Spirit

there are 3 baptisms, water (physical) , and then the fire and Holy Spirit

water = Jesus
Holy spirit = Holy Spirit
Fire = Father God
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We must be baptized (full water immersion) in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, then we receive the gift of the Holy Spirit with fire:


Of Luke 3:16, John the Baptist said, "he (Jesus) shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire".


In His Name, we are therefore baptized with the Holy Ghost and with fire.

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23 December 2010

Dear brother ………. in our Lord Jesus Christ's Name,

As we read in Acts 2:38, this is the only way to be baptized, done in Jesus' Name.

We saw Peter and John who met persons baptized by John the Baptist as written in Acts 19:1-6 in water and repentance. Peter and John asked them if they had heard about the Holy Ghost as John the Baptist described this baptism as holy, and that fire should come upon them. So they allowed Peter and John who were filled with the Holy Ghost to lay hands upon them and they were baptized with the Holy Ghost as John the Baptist had spoken of.

I was baptized as most Christians of this day through repentance and water baptism, but no one spoke of the Holy Ghost and fire that John the Baptist spoke of. Well, I fell back in the ways of this generation's Christianity without the Holy Ghost to dwell inside me and to guide me. I visited so many types of churches across America which revealed they lacked the real fruit of the Holy Ghost. Oh, they were nice Christian people but I knew I was missing something in my walk with Lord Jesus Who I supposed was leading me.

Well, in 1983 while in the Washington, D.C. area I was walking down a street and a Voice said "Go in there." It was a Holiness Pentecostal Church. So I entered and sat near the back. This was a Wednesday service and this preacher said, "Is there anyone else who wants to be baptized according to Acts 2:38?" So a few people went to the front to be baptized. Then the Lord said told me, "Get baptized in My Name, Jesus."

So I ran up there and was given to be baptized in the Name of Lord Jesus according to Acts 2:38. So after that, all of them that were baptized went up into a room for the brethren of this church to lay hands upon them who were seeking to be filled with the Holy Ghost as written in Acts 2:1-4 and also in Acts 19:1-6

Well, when everyone joined to pray, they had hands laid upon them, but I was left alone without anyone to lay hands upon me. The Lord said, "Go the bathroom" of which I did and He said "You can leave now." I went down the street and after a short time the Holy Ghost and fire fell upon me and I shouted in unknown tongues. I do remember hearing a preacher on the radio preach on I Corinthians 2:1-5. That day I received spiritual power that I had asked of the Lord Jesus. He even had me not to join to any church as a member. Oh, I was given to visit so many churches as a guest, even given to speak in the pulpit, and the Lord gave me to speak each time in a instant by the Holy Ghost.

I preach such hard words that many brethren cannot bear for me to speak. They get so convicted, but I have had a whole church drop to the floor in repentance from the pulpit on down across this Earth in these last hours before He gathers His very elect chosen faithful few who do the Father's will each day, with no compromise. Matthew 5:17-19, John 15:10-12 and John 14:15-18.

We have to have a clean vessel for Him to be able to fill it with new wine (the Holy Ghost and fire). So be holy as He is holy and be found liken II Peter 3:14. Remember to do what is written in Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 while yet you have time.

One day according to Joel 2:31-32, Acts 2:19-20, and Matthew 24:29-31. He our Lord will come like a thief in the night during a time of both physical and spiritual darkness. We need to be wise virgins full of His Holy Ghost fire for His sent angels to see we are written in John 12:35-36.

Elijah


Messages of God's Servant Prophet Elijah are on the internet at:
[link to groups.yahoo.com]
Korean: [link to blog.daum.net]

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How do you get baptised with the Holy Spirit if you've already been baptised in water? A friend of mine has been praying for years to receive this spiritual gift but without any luck, while another one prayed just once and immediately received it. Does it depend on certain factors ?
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Dear brother ………. in our Lord Jesus Christ's Name,

As we read in Acts 2:38, this is the only way to be baptized, done in Jesus' Name.

We saw Peter and John who met persons baptized by John the Baptist as written in Acts 19:1-6 in water and repentance. Peter and John asked them if they had heard about the Holy Ghost as John the Baptist described this baptism as holy, and that fire should come upon them. So they allowed Peter and John who were filled with the Holy Ghost to lay hands upon them and they were baptized with the Holy Ghost as John the Baptist had spoken of.

I was baptized as most Christians of this day through repentance and water baptism, but no one spoke of the Holy Ghost and fire that John the Baptist spoke of. Well, I fell back in the ways of this generation's Christianity without the Holy Ghost to dwell inside me and to guide me. I visited so many types of churches across America which revealed they lacked the real fruit of the Holy Ghost. Oh, they were nice Christian people but I knew I was missing something in my walk with Lord Jesus Who I supposed was leading me.

Well, in 1983 while in the Washington, D.C. area I was walking down a street and a Voice said "Go in there." It was a Holiness Pentecostal Church. So I entered and sat near the back. This was a Wednesday service and this preacher said, "Is there anyone else who wants to be baptized according to Acts 2:38?" So a few people went to the front to be baptized. Then the Lord said told me, "Get baptized in My Name, Jesus."

So I ran up there and was given to be baptized in the Name of Lord Jesus according to Acts 2:38. So after that, all of them that were baptized went up into a room for the brethren of this church to lay hands upon them who were seeking to be filled with the Holy Ghost as written in Acts 2:1-4 and also in Acts 19:1-6

Well, when everyone joined to pray, they had hands laid upon them, but I was left alone without anyone to lay hands upon me. The Lord said, "Go the bathroom" of which I did and He said "You can leave now." I went down the street and after a short time the Holy Ghost and fire fell upon me and I shouted in unknown tongues. I do remember hearing a preacher on the radio preach on I Corinthians 2:1-5. That day I received spiritual power that I had asked of the Lord Jesus. He even had me not to join to any church as a member. Oh, I was given to visit so many churches as a guest, even given to speak in the pulpit, and the Lord gave me to speak each time in a instant by the Holy Ghost.

I preach such hard words that many brethren cannot bear for me to speak. They get so convicted, but I have had a whole church drop to the floor in repentance from the pulpit on down across this Earth in these last hours before He gathers His very elect chosen faithful few who do the Father's will each day, with no compromise. Matthew 5:17-19, John 15:10-12 and John 14:15-18.

We have to have a clean vessel for Him to be able to fill it with new wine (the Holy Ghost and fire). So be holy as He is holy and be found liken II Peter 3:14. Remember to do what is written in Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 while yet you have time.

One day according to Joel 2:31-32, Acts 2:19-20, and Matthew 24:29-31. He our Lord will come like a thief in the night during a time of both physical and spiritual darkness. We need to be wise virgins full of His Holy Ghost fire for His sent angels to see we are written in John 12:35-36.

Elijah


Messages of God's Servant Prophet Elijah are on the internet at:
[link to groups.yahoo.com]
Korean: [link to blog.daum.net]

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How do you get baptised with the Holy Spirit if you've already been baptised in water? A friend of mine has been praying for years to receive this spiritual gift but without any luck, while another one prayed just once and immediately received it. Does it depend on certain factors ?
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There needs to be a baptism of repentance. Read John 14:15-18, Acts 19:1-8, and Acts 2:38.


We all must keep the Ten Commandments and not allow for any unrepented sin.

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I have 2 boys that were suppose to be baptized by the Roman Catholic church! They were not...I believe that HIS love has baptized them any way! My boys know love, forgiveness and compassion and that is what GOD wants from his children! hfgrouphughf
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I have 2 boys that were suppose to be baptized by the Roman Catholic church! They were not...I believe that HIS love has baptized them any way! My boys know love, forgiveness and compassion and that is what GOD wants from his children! hfgrouphughf
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Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


If a Christian church is carnal, it can only bear carnal Christians. If you want your boys and yourself to be spiritualy-minded, pray over this, asking the Lord to lead you to a church that preaches being baptized by repentance, in the water, and given the promise of the Holy Ghost. You don't need to join a church to do this.

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Without the Holy spirit there is no salvation, Romans 8:9-11.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.



So you must have the same Spirit in you by baptism that raised up Jesus if you wish your body, which is mortal, to be raised up by that same Spirit.

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Some may have to consider to have their baptism redone, as it was not done according to Acts 2:38. I myself had to undergo this as the pastor who did my former baptism was as I saw later, not a spiritual person and therefore incapable of transmitting the gift of the Holy Spirit.

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One of the things where Jesus Christ stood out from any other is the fact that he doesn't work with initiates. There are no inner circles.Not one is better then the other. Anyone who is a Christian can baptise another. It doesn't even need to be a pastor.
It's not a pastor who gives us the Holy Spirit, it's Jesus who does.

I'm so so sorry for the people who are made to believe that their baptism isn't legit.
I'm also very sorry for the difference between Christians in general. What message are we giving to the world when we can not even agree with eachother?

The things you do are not the things we are tought by Christ or His earlier followers.

The shouting, the shaking, the falling.
Please watch this youtube clip that will explain some stuff you need to know.

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Baptism by the Holy Spirit is a wonderful thing. It happened to me also, but not in a church, in the privacy of my own bedroom while deep in prayer, I asked for it specifically and it happened. I was a little scared of what would happen, and the Lord knew this, so instead of a Holy Spirit explosion, it was a very gentle loving touch and I felt a warm sensation come over me. I heard the words "Part your lips" and I did, and 2 words came out of my mouth that said "Abba Father". It was not me that said it, it was completely involuntary. I fell asleep shortly afterwards.

The next morning, I remembered it, and I thought, that was strange, I wonder what it meant? So, I googled Abba Father and this is what I found.

"For all who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God. For you did not receive a spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received a spirit of adoption. When we cry, ‘Abba! Father!’ it is that very Spirit bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ—if, in fact, we suffer with him so that we may also be glorified with him." (Romans 8:14-17, NRSV; cf. Gal. 4:5-6)

When I read that, my mouth fell open, I had no idea! Apparently Abba is Aramaic for the word father. I've never heard those 2 words before! It was completely involuntary. I was blown away and broke down and sobbed over it. He had heard me.

Since it happened, I feel different. I hear words from the Lord almost on a daily basis and I'm seeing visions too. They are wonderful messages of encouragement, hope and love, not doom and gloom.

I believe the Lord has recently led me to a house of worship where they call on the name of Yahweh and Yahshua, they observe the Sabbath and worship on the sabbath, and they speak in tongues and are on fire with the Holy Spirit, and they do not celebrate the "christian" pagan holidays.

I'm going to go on saturday to check it out.

Anyway, I hesitated posting my experience here because I don't want anyone to think I'm bragging or tooting my own horn because nothing could be further from the truth. I'm posting it because I want everyone to know that this baptism by Holy Spirit is available to everyone, they just have to ask and seek Him in humble sincere prayer.

I really believe we have some really dark and troubling days ahead, and everyone needs to draw as close to the Lord as you possibly can. I want to help be an encouragement to others, so I'm posting my experience for that reason alone.

The Lord is waiting to hear from all of His children, He wants everyone to come to Him.

hf
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Re: A real baptism is not just in water and repentance, but will also result in receiving the Holy Ghost and Fire
Some may have to consider to have their baptism redone, as it was not done according to Acts 2:38. I myself had to undergo this as the pastor who did my former baptism was as I saw later, not a spiritual person and therefore incapable of transmitting the gift of the Holy Spirit.

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 Quoting: Scribe to Elijah 1184003


One of the things where Jesus Christ stood out from any other is the fact that he doesn't work with initiates. There are no inner circles.Not one is better then the other. Anyone who is a Christian can baptise another. It doesn't even need to be a pastor.
It's not a pastor who gives us the Holy Spirit, it's Jesus who does.

I'm so so sorry for the people who are made to believe that their baptism isn't legit.
I'm also very sorry for the difference between Christians in general. What message are we giving to the world when we can not even agree with eachother?

The things you do are not the things we are tought by Christ or His earlier followers.

The shouting, the shaking, the falling.
Please watch this youtube clip that will explain some stuff you need to know.


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Even full immersion water baptism without repentence is unacceptable, so under that circumstance, the baptism has to be repeated according to Acts 2:38 along with repentance. No one who is not born again is eligible to baptise you.

Most of us who are born again cannot find a church which keeps the Ten Commandments and the seventh day Sabbath, so we have to have communion with one or two others in a home situation. There are even some who may be unable to find such a person to fellowship with, but he/she can have communion alone with the Lord.

In Jerusalem I was in a church situation where the writhing was as is seen on the video you included which is of course nothing but evil spirits controlling these people.

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What happened to my beloved GLP????.